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Thread ID: 15218 | Posts: 8 | Started: 2004-10-05
2004-10-05 00:29 | User Profile
Ahh heck Rush, i bet you already knew that...your just like the rest of your neocon apologist idjuts - living in self-denial.
Today on the Rush Limbaugh radio show, Rush was trying to explain the shifting poll numbers as to why GW is not doing better at this time. Yes i still listen to his show just for entertainment at lunch, i admit it. I know where i stand on things, but his show is still fun to listen to. Rush, to me is like a lot of neocons. Many things i will agree on with them, but then comes the details...anyway, we know the diff between a neocon and a paleocon.
Rush tried to explain the shift by saying its an issue of demographics. His words were something like this:
(not an exact quote, but im working from memory)
Well folks, its really an issue of demographics. Republicans are in real trouble here if they have to keep writing off states like california, new york and probably florida. Oh cummon, lets face it, minorities have been and are predominately voting for democrats. they tend to identify with the democrat party more. Immigration, if left unchecked will do nothing but continue this trend...
There was more, and he spent at least 10-15 minuites on this.
This was one lunchtime break i was glad i listened to his show. I couldnt hardly believe i just heard Rush saying these things.
2004-10-05 00:38 | User Profile
I think that you are hearing those things because the plug has been pulled on Rush. He had a drug habit, and his Jewish wife is divorcing him, so his handlers have no more use for him. Maybe this is his way of getting back before he goes.
2004-10-05 01:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=skemper]I think that you are hearing those things because the plug has been pulled on Rush. He had a drug habit, and his Jewish wife is divorcing him, so his handlers have no more use for him. Maybe this is his way of getting back before he goes.[/QUOTE]
Jewish wife divocing him ? huh, where did you get this ? first ive heard of it
If anything, i think the stink over illegal immigration is too much for them to handle. they just cant cover up the discontent among the "party faithful"
2004-10-05 02:29 | User Profile
Josey,
Is this what you heard from Chief Dittohead?
Demographic Obstacle for GOP
October 4, 2004
Listen to Rushââ¬Â¦ (ââ¬Â¦explain how shifting demographics make it tough for Republicans)
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
The conventional wisdom going into Thursday night was, "Well, you know, foreign policy, that's Bush's strong suit, that's his home field. This is where Kerry 's going to get trumped. He's going to get trumped there. Boy, when they get the domestic policy, that's where Bush is weak." Why are they saying this? They're saying this because of polls. They're saying that polling data shows that Bush is strong on foreign policy, war on terrorism, Iraq and so forth, but Kerry's really strong on domestic policy. Typical conventional wisdom that's wrong.
What you have to understand -- and we're going to dissect these polls that are out -- these polls are just absolutely outrageous, and the polls are a result of a media psyops operation that's going on, psychological operation going on right now to drive this campaign back into Kerry's favor. Well, the Newsweek poll is that. It's the only poll that shows what it shows. The other polls are much tighter. And when you look at the internals of the Newsweek poll, for example, the vast majority of the people at the Newsweek poll were polled from the Mountain and Pacific time zones. The percentage of Republicans in the sample was dropped considerably, like 6%. So there's a lot of internals to get into here, and we will do that as the program unfolds.
But the thing to me, folks, is this election shouldn't even be close right now. The reason that it is close, they're reasons that have to do with things that, you know, Karl Rove and George W. Bush really don't have all that much to say about or control over. I mean demographics -- if we can be honest here for a second -- demographics are going to make it increasingly more difficult for Republicans to win in the future if things don't change as they are now. Many people who are voting have no context. I've got story after story today of voter fraud, registration fraud in Franklin County, Ohio. There are more registered voters than the Census Bureau says are eligible. We got a story out of Tampa today in the St. Petersburg Times about how a group that was formed in the 1970s, you may have heard of them, ACORN, is out trying to register voters two and three times and they've been caught in the act. You've got the Kerry campaign demanding 6,000 lawyers at these polling places but they will not allow Republican lawyers to be sitting side by side. But one of our problems here is that some of the people voting have no context today. They're just being registered and sent out there with marching orders essentially; World War II generation is dying off. We have people here because of the open border policy. We have people who have not assimilated into our culture. The liberal propaganda resonates with many of them, at least, a large number of them, maybe a growing number of them, because of the "we'll do everything for you" propaganda that liberals are known for.
I'm not trying to be defeatist. I don't want anybody to misunderstand. I just want you to know what the obstacles are here. Before everybody starts dumping on Bush and Rove and everybody else totally, there are some things that you have to understand. We still have history taught by the left in academia. The media has been teaching history for a long time and, you know, some inroads are being made there, tremendous inroads are being made. Progress is taking place but I want to be realistic about some of the obstacles that we still face. You can't have all this history taught by the left, including the media and expect to make huge, huge inroads. This is an election, maybe the first of its kind, with such dramatic demographic changes. And these demographic changes, as long as we don't do something about immigration, are going to continue.
Bush, I hate to say this -- but I mean you know this has been one of my bugaboos since 2000 -- on the domestic side Bush has spent like a liberal. He has spent and spent and spent and spent and spent. But, his problem is he dares to defend his country. So the fact that he dares to defend his country cancels out all the so-called "good," he's doing by spending like a liberal. And I think as I look back at the debate, one little comment about it, as you look back at Bush in that first debate, the last half of that debate, first half I'm telling you was a different story than the last half. There was a big momentum shift, but you look back at the second half of that debate, I think what you saw is the new tone. Maybe even a little bit prevent defense. Don't be mean. Let's not attack, let's not make people dislike us. Let's not get people angry at us and so forth. Of course just the opposite was called for, and just the opposite was what was necessary.
So, you know, I mean one of the examples of this demographic shift I can give you, just so you'll know, I'll give you an illustration. Orange County, California. Orange County always was relied on to offset the Democrat liberal dominance of Los Angeles. But now over 50% of Orange County is minority and immigrant and most of them vote Democrat, most of the new arrivals. The point is that the Republicans, I'm looking long-term here just to give you something to think about, not just this election and not primarily this election, but long-term. The Republicans just cannot expect to keep winning if every election we have to write off California. If every election we have to write off New York, Illinois, and maybe soon Florida, if those states become states that we have to write off simply because of demographic shifts, then you can't expect to win. One of those states, some of those states, are eventually going to have to be mined and cultivated if consistent national victories are to take place.
END TRANSCRIPT
After all the damage he has done to the conservative movement over the last ten years I hope there is a very special and hot corner of hell reserved for his backstabbing A$$.
2004-10-05 02:49 | User Profile
If you had listened to the show in its entirety, Josey, you would have been treated to the Grand Impresario's sage words of advice to Bush in his next debate: "Pay no mind to Kerry's incessant needling over "outsourcing"... in fact, turn the tables, and explain to the American people the manifold ways that outsourcing is actually benefitting America..."
Rush was adamant on this point. He's really convinced this strategy's a winner.
2004-10-05 02:49 | User Profile
Rush has long been a cheerleader for the free trade/open borders crowd. The fact that even he, Republican shill that he is, is starting to see the insanity of flooding the nation with poor, brown foreigners means that this issue is getting too hot to ignore. Time magazine also had an article critical of open borders a couple weeks ago. Cynic that I am, I don't expect much to come of it, though. I think the elites have finally realized that they have to address the issue in some manner, however, even if it is only through lip service.
2004-10-05 03:27 | User Profile
Sertorius, thats it ! thanks
For a minuite there, i wasnt sure if i was reading an exceprt from ""Death of the West", instead of a neocon cheerleader.
2004-10-05 03:35 | User Profile
Josey,
Rush started to rot out during the NAFTA debate after Greenspan called him to encourage him to support it. As for open borders I believe that the only reason that he is climbing on the band wagon is because he knows that he can't ignore the issue as he has done in the past. As dumb as most of his listeners are even a sizable number of them don't support this insanity. Rush doesn't want to lose his "vast listening audience."