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Thread ID: 15011 | Posts: 14 | Started: 2004-09-15
2004-09-15 12:34 | User Profile
Time Magazine asks "Who left the door open?"
Despite all the talk of homeland security, sneaking into the U.S. is scandalously easyââ¬âand on the rise. Millions of illegal aliens will pour across the U.S.-Mexican border this year, many from countries hostile to America. TIME looks at the damage, the dangers and the reasons the U.S. fails to protect itself.
[url]http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101040920/story.html[/url]
2004-09-15 16:20 | User Profile
The only theory that really explains the incredible fact that for 3 years after we were attacked by illegal aliens on 9-11, killing thousands of Americans, the southern border remains open for any terrorist to cross at will is that the people who run our country KNOW FULL WELL that they were in total control of the 9-11 attack, and that there is no credible terrorist threat that they don't control at least indirectly.
This also explains a number of other oddities, such as why Shrub stayed at the Negro school 20 minutes after he was told the country was under attack. One can only assume that the Secret Service have an automatic response that they drilled a million times in preparation for precisely such an event, that obviously would includ getting the President THE HELL OUT of whatever public space he happens to be in at the time on onto Air Force One with the greatest possible dispatch.
But that's not what the Secret Service did. Why? Because Shrub knew there was no danger of a fifth column attack on him personally (it was public knowledge that he'd be at that school) because he knew MOSSAD/CIA controlled the 9-11 attackers, albeit behind the scenes.
Here's another oddity. All agree that 9-11 was one of the greatest intelligence failures ever. There were reports from field offices warning of the distinct possibility of such an attack that were "ignored" by the higher ups. Even assuming the transparent lie that this was mere negligence and not craven criminality, clearly such terrible negligence should have consequences for those who failed us. Careers ended. Bureacracies shaken up, reduced in size. But that's NOT what happened. Oh no, in fact not only were the heads of CIA, FBI, NSA and so forth not placed on pikes in front of the Capital (fuguratively speaking) as one might reasonably expect, they were BLOODY PROMOTED with expanded powers under the Patriot Act and greatly increased budgets and personnel rosters.
What sort of failure results in promotion of that magnitude? Obviously, no failure at all. They didn't fail but rather succeeded in their mission, it's just that We the Sheeple are too willfully blind to allow ourselves to see what their real mission was, and is.
It also explains why Shrub failed to move against the scoin of the Bush crime family's Saudi allies, Osama bin Laden, for two months in Afghanistan after 9-11, clearly allowing him to escape, and not only that but allowing him to remain at large for over three years despite the largest manhunt since Ghengis Khan went looking for Jalal Edin.
This also explains the Israeli art students, the Israeli AmDocs phone records story that got quashed, the text messages sent to Israelis morning of 9-11 on their way to the WTC, and so on and so forth. 9-11 was thought through and planned years iin advance by powerful oil interests (both Houston and Saudi) and MOSSAD. All parties gained. You and I lose.
Isn't it obvious? Shrub knew and Osama knew and Sharon knew that they had it all arranged beforehand as an excuse to take out Saddam, whom both Shurb and Osama bore personal grudges.
All of the loose ends that Michael Moore tried to explain by Shrub's idiocy or cupidity, ducking the real issues like the rotund coward he is, are explained completely and elegantly by the simple theory that Shrub and his allies in Big Oil and Organized Jewry planned and executed 9-11 for their own purposes.
Pull out Occam's razor, my friends, and I respectfully submit that it's all rather obvious, don't you agree?
I tell these things to my many siblings, and they just get mad. I was regaling one (a Shrub supporter) about this while we were driving from Milwaukee to Green Bay and she stopped her SUV and ordered me out of the car right on Highway 41. She relented, thankfully because it was raining. The point is that MINDS ARE CLOSED on this point. And my sister is an educated woman.
I concluded long ago that our people must suffer terribly before they're capable - not just willing but I mean capable - of pulling their heads out of their a$$es. A Christ really must be crucified every generation because men lack imagiination. And I humbly submit that it doesn't take much imagination to see that 9-11 was planned and executed by our own leaders. But alas, we lack even that.
That's why this war is a good thing. The longer it is and the more painful and expensive it is, the more likely our sheeple are to WAKE UP to the simple fact that they're beset by enemies both foreign and domestic.
We need a collapse. This war might just make it collapse. The sooner the better.
Walter
2004-09-17 04:54 | User Profile
Walter Yannis,
Sadly you may well be right.
2004-09-17 05:39 | User Profile
As Exibit A on the issue of the willful blindness of We the Sheeple as to the true motives of this war, I offer into evidence this brilliant exercise in doublethink from our friends at [URL=http://www.etherzone.com/2004/lebo091704.shtml]Etherzone[/URL].
CIA OSAMA DISGRACE HE MUST BE CAUGHT ASAP
By: John LeBoutillier
Wednesday it was publicly revealed for the first time that the CIA now has fewer people manning the special ââ¬ËOsama Teamââ¬â¢ - that special group begun in the mid-1990's to track and eliminate Osama Bin Laden - than we did before the 9/11 attacks!
CIA operative Michael Scheuer has written a letter to the U.S. Congress which complains that the CIA has actually cut available personnel for the ââ¬ËOsama Unitââ¬â¢ - and rotates new people in and out so frequently that they do not have time to become current with all the latest intelligence before they move on to some other assignment.
Wasnââ¬â¢t catching Osama Bin Laden our ââ¬Åhighest national priorityââ¬â¢ after 9/11?
What of President Bush repeated pledge to ââ¬Åget him dead or aliveââ¬Â?
And what of Vice President Cheneyââ¬â¢s repeated promises to ââ¬Årun him to groundââ¬Â?
Why does our government never even talk about Osama any more?
Why did the President never mention Osama by name even once at the Republican National Convention?
Here - from yesterdaysââ¬â¢s New York Times - is the crux of the problem:
ââ¬Å The bin Laden unit is stretched so thin that it relies on inexperienced officers rotated in and out every 60 to 90 days, and they leave before they know enough to be able to perform any meaningful work, according to a letter the C.I.A. officer has written to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees.ââ¬Â
How can the Bush Administration allow this to be happening?
Michael Scheuer, by the way, is a hero for repeatedly having the guts to stand up to his CIA superiors on this. During the late 1990's he pleaded with them for more aid - and has cited at least a dozen opportunities to kill Osama. All were passed up for various bureaucratic reasons.
Scheuer - distressed by the direction of the War on Terror - then wrote a book under the pseudonym ââ¬ËAnonymous.ââ¬â¢ He also is cited repeatedly as ââ¬ËMikeââ¬â¢ in the 9/11 Commission Report.
This failure to capture or kill Osama is a national disgrace. He attacked us - and, make no mistake about it, he himself ran the entire mission. The 9/11 Report makes it clear: Osama personally recruited each and every one of the 19 murderers and he personally selected the three targets: the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the Capitol.
Those who claim that Osama has been ââ¬Ëmarginalizedââ¬â¢ are full of bunk. He is the leader - both operationally and symbolically - of Americaââ¬â¢s sworn enemy. And he keeps taunting us with new audio tapes that cause us to raise our alert level.
Yes, we are trying to get him. But are we trying as hard as we could to get him?
No, we are not.
We have not expended the money, the manpower and the national political will to get Osama that we spent to get Saddam.
Forget the campaign for a minute: this is a national disgrace and a smear on our national honor.
This SOB must be caught ASAP - and to do anything less is a moral crime.
2004-09-17 05:44 | User Profile
Walter I agree pretty much with your analysis of the 9/11 operation. Right now many, many people, maybe more than you or I realize, are figuring out things about 9/11, simply by connecting the dots to what's transpired since then, especially the horrific Iraq War and also what's been revealed by some government 'whistleblowers', if you will. What this means or what it will affect, I don't know, but we're not alone, that's for sure.
Sometimes the more educated person, the more blinded they are to the obvious. Their academic intelligence doesn't like to consider those things which might be considered 'irrational'. College indoctrination serves it's clients badly, but effectively-trained to stay within the 'yellow lines' of thought. These are they which will have the rudest of awakenings when the inevitable Collapse sweeps our country. When the food chain breaks down and bellys are empty, then we're really gonna see some sheeeeot come down.
What's really blowing my mind is how many people are still throwing support behind Bush's reelection. The consequences of our country, the USA, inflicting massive and ghastly carnage on and in a foreign country under false and aggravated pretensions will, unfortunately, affect each and every American in some adverse way. Call it collective punishment for a collective sin. I'm praying the Lord forgive us.
Keep praying.
2004-09-17 06:12 | User Profile
Let's take a closer look at this, shall we?
[QUOTE]Wednesday it was publicly revealed for the first time that the CIA now has fewer people manning the special ââ¬ËOsama Teamââ¬â¢ - that special group begun in the mid-1990's to track and eliminate Osama Bin Laden - than we did before the 9/11 attacks![/QUOTE]
Surely, Mr LeBoutillier, you dissemble by placing an exclamation point at the end of that sentence. Are we really to believe that you are genuinely shocked - and I mean SHOCKED - by that fact, knowing full well that (1) Shrub didn't feel the least bit concerned for his safety after learning of the 9-11 attacks even though located in a vulnerable public place that had been announced previously to the whole world; (2) Shrub left the entire southern border wide open for three years after 9-11, despite the fact that (a) the attackers TO A MAN were located here illegally, (b) there was clear and regular information that many of the illegal crossings are made by Arabs and others of Middle Eastern origin, (c) all of the measures of the Patriot Act are actually only enforced against white Americans, since targeting minorities is outlawed "racial profiling," (3) all the people responsible for the "failures" that lead to 9-11 were PROMOTED instead of fired.
The list could go on, but it's frankly tedious. It's so clear. I accuse you, sir, of engaging in the worst sort of snivelling doublethink imaginable.
[QUOTE]CIA operative Michael Scheuer has written a letter to the U.S. Congress which complains that the CIA has actually cut available personnel for the ââ¬ËOsama Unitââ¬â¢ - and rotates new people in and out so frequently that they do not have time to become current with all the latest intelligence before they move on to some other assignment. [/QUOTE]
Which would be absolutely crazy, right? Ah, but here is where you're lying to yourself and, by extension, to us. You know full well that it's crazy IF AND ONLY IF one assumes that Shrub and his ilk are sincerely fighting the so-called "War on Terror." But as we've seen, that's obviously not the case.
Qute obviously, they have another agenda.
So, as an exercise in Logic for Dummies, let's do an experiment, m'kah? Let's assume instead that 9-11 was planned and executed by Shrub's boys at Big Oil working closely with their whores at CIA/FBI/NSA and of course also MOSSAD. Let's further assume that Osama is knowingly involved in this plot on behalf of his devoutly Wahabbi family that has longed to depose the House of Saud and to seize control of the region's oil, for their benefit and that of their allies, including especially the Bush crime family. Do the pieces fall into place?
Hmmm?
Whelp, let's see. That would explain why they let Osama go by not attacking Afghanistan for two months after 9-11. You know, that would actually explain some other things, like why they left the southern border open (and waging war on American citizens who moved to protect it) despite having been attacked by illegals, why they promoted those who "failed us" in 9-11 (hint: they actually SUCCEEDED in their mission to get USA into this war. Success = Promotion. Get it?) See the (very incomplete list) above.
It's so obvious. Your doublethink is really creeping me out.
[QUOTE]Wasnââ¬â¢t catching Osama Bin Laden our ââ¬Åhighest national priorityââ¬â¢ after 9/11?[/QUOTE]
Nah, dummy. That's just what our Jewish grifters commonly referred to as the "neocons" told you. The real priority is to get America into a war that will nuetralize Israel's enemies and help the Bush Crime Family get better control of Middle East oil.
[QUOTE]What of President Bush repeated pledge to ââ¬Åget him dead or aliveââ¬Â?[/QUOTE]
Um, he lied?
Moron.
[QUOTE]And what of Vice President Cheneyââ¬â¢s repeated promises to ââ¬Årun him to groundââ¬Â?[/QUOTE]
Oh, man. You've got it bad.
[QUOTE]Why does our government never even talk about Osama any more?[/QUOTE]
What's this? Are those the first whoopi sounds of your head popping out of your a$$?
[QUOTE]Why did the President never mention Osama by name even once at the Republican National Convention?[/QUOTE]
Because Osama's actually a Republican!
[QUOTE]Here - from yesterdaysââ¬â¢s New York Times - is the crux of the problem: ââ¬Å The bin Laden unit is stretched so thin that it relies on inexperienced officers rotated in and out every 60 to 90 days, and they leave before they know enough to be able to perform any meaningful work, according to a letter the C.I.A. officer has written to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees.ââ¬Â
How can the Bush Administration allow this to be happening?[/QUOTE]
Shrub's not "allowing" it to happen, you pitiful chump. He's making it happen.
You're being grifted by pros! But of course, in your heart of hearts you already know that.
You know this is true. You're lying to yourself. That couldn't be more obvious.
But why would you lie to yourself? I'll tell you why. Every good grifter relies on a significant element of the mark's self-deception. The mark needs so badly whatever the grifter is selling him on an emotional level, that the mark is willing to suspend disbelief and buy whatever "too good to be true" story the grifter is pitching.
You, sir, need to believe that you are a citizen of a good country. You want to believe that America is good, and that her cause is right, and that while mistakes, even at times terrible mistakes, can be made, America remains good and her leaders can be trusted. You need to believe that transparent lie so badly that you're willing to suspend your logical faculties to an absurd degree, mentally blinking away all the evidence that you actually do a pretty good job of listing.
I think you're growing weary of this cognitive dissonance.
What will it take before you finally admit it?
[QUOTE]Michael Scheuer, by the way, is a hero for repeatedly having the guts to stand up to his CIA superiors on this. During the late 1990's he pleaded with them for more aid - and has cited at least a dozen opportunities to kill Osama. All were passed up for various bureaucratic reasons.[/QUOTE]
Bureacratic reasons?
Ha!
Hey, listen, I've got this bridge I want to sell you . . .
[QUOTE]Scheuer - distressed by the direction of the War on Terror - then wrote a book under the pseudonym ââ¬ËAnonymous.ââ¬â¢ He also is cited repeatedly as ââ¬ËMikeââ¬â¢ in the 9/11 Commission Report.[/QUOTE]
I'm reading that book now. He also had the balls to name our support of the Shitty Little Country as the proximate cause of Muslim ire.
But he didn't have the cajones to say the obvious, as outlined above.
[QUOTE]This failure to capture or kill Osama is a national disgrace. He attacked us - and, make no mistake about it, he himself ran the entire mission. The 9/11 Report makes it clear: Osama personally recruited each and every one of the 19 murderers and he personally selected the three targets: the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the Capitol.
Those who claim that Osama has been ââ¬Ëmarginalizedââ¬â¢ are full of bunk. He is the leader - both operationally and symbolically - of Americaââ¬â¢s sworn enemy. And he keeps taunting us with new audio tapes that cause us to raise our alert level.
Yes, we are trying to get him. But are we trying as hard as we could to get him?
No, we are not.
We have not expended the money, the manpower and the national political will to get Osama that we spent to get Saddam.
Forget the campaign for a minute: this is a national disgrace and a smear on our [B]national honor[/B].
This SOB must be caught ASAP - and to do anything less is a moral crime.[/[/QUOTE]
Honor? America has any honor left? You mean, after we support the Yahoodis in their crucifiying the Palestinians - stealing their land, bulldozing their homes, killing their children - to the tune of billions of dollars every year, and America the Empire has a shred of honor left to sully?
Not a bit of it, man. This Empire of ours is a ravenous swine. There's nothing good to say about it. It is evil, wholly evil. It is the enemy of all mankind.
But, this is getting old. You, Mr. LeBoutillier, are a willfully blind sheep.
George Orwell invented the word "doublethink" to describe the bald-faced self deception so clearly evident in your article above.
WAKE UP!!!!
Walter
2004-09-17 06:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]What's really blowing my mind is how many people are still throwing support behind Bush's reelection. The consequences of our country, the USA, inflicting massive and ghastly carnage on and in a foreign country under false and aggravated pretensions will, unfortunately, affect each and every American in some adverse way. Call it collective punishment for a collective sin. I'm praying the Lord forgive us. Keep praying.[/QUOTE]
The Empire is wholly evil.
A think that only what Lincoln called the "mighty scourge of war" can make the fools I have for neighbors WAKE UP to the fact that their tax dollars support evil around the world.
Shrub wants to fight evil wherever it may be?
Ha!
He's a Bonesman. A satanist. And as Jesus said, "satan cannot cast out satan."
Lord, how I have come to despise dittoheads and Freepers. Even more than liberals, you know? At least with liberals you know where you stand.
Walter
2004-09-17 07:56 | User Profile
Let's do an instant poll.
Who thinks that my theory explains more elegantly all the known facts surrounding 9-11 than the offical story?
Walter
2004-09-17 13:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis] Not a bit of it, man. This Empire of ours is a ravenous swine. There's nothing good to say about it. It is evil, wholly evil. It is the enemy of all mankind.[/QUOTE] Walter, you'll make a good Confederate yet. :wink: Seriously, though, as 'paranoid' as your theory may sound, it certainly is the simplest one that satisfactorily explains all the facts. If 9/11 and the War on Terror are not the results of malice, then they have required a level of incompetence and cluelessness so stupendous as to be virtually unbelievable.
2004-09-17 17:07 | User Profile
What the heck is this "Osama" bull??????????. Can someone show me some evidence that Osama is guilty of anything???????.
All I have seen is heresay from some one who knows who is really responsible for 911 and wants to blame someone else, Osama.
Only thing that I have seen is a man that is fighting those who have invaded their land, the infidels.
I feel that all that the US is doing is trying to distract its citizen from what is really going on and by whom.
"When the truth comes to light, the lies will hide in the dark",,,,Ponce
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2004-09-19 22:50 | User Profile
Everyone should go out and buy ten copies of the current issue of Time!
2004-09-20 00:34 | User Profile
You know the s***'s really hitting the fan when Time-reading yuppies and other urban liberals start moaning about immigration!
2004-09-20 08:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]You know the s***'s really hitting the fan when Time-reading yuppies and other urban liberals start moaning about immigration![/QUOTE]
One of my many sisters is a medical professional and a pillar of her Catholic parish. She's a screaming liberal (although to her credit she supports legal limits on abortion). Her parish has a lefty nun running the social outreach program that includes diverting parish funds to illegal Mexican immigrants. This nun is working with the Mexican consulate to get identity cards. She's even helping them register to vote!
My sister has kids who are out of work, and she's getting steamed about all this, and then the voting thing was too much. She confronted this nun in front of a bunch of people, and basically got told that the parish sees its future with the Mexicans and she could kiss off.
Turning this nun into the INS would do no good, as you all know.
I did what I could to plant as many nationalist seeds as I could, and I think that some have taken root.
She's still voting for Kerry.
Walter
2004-09-21 18:54 | User Profile
Poverty pimps naturally need all of these Latinos & more illegal aliens, and, as many legally imported poverty cases as they can get into the USA. This justifies their budgets, and their jobs. These poverty pimp jobs and budgets are paid for either by the taxpayer, or by the taxpayers' charity.
As you know I don't like Bush, and I don't like jews, because the jews in my opinion are the other side of the pagan coin, the moslems-hindus etc. being the other.
Here is the link to the video of the American construction worker being beheaded. It's grisly, and runs under Windows Media Player. [url]http://www.ogrish.com/[/url]
Every foreign national in the US illegally should be shown this video before they are swiftly deported. We also need legal immigration numbers seriously reduced so they can be watched and their loyalty determined---if that is possible for jews and moslems! [url]http://www.ogrish.com/[/url]