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Thread ID: 14923 | Posts: 17 | Started: 2004-09-07
2004-09-07 17:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Worse is better, Q, that's for sure.
Look around you at your moron neighbors. Haven't a clue.
I join Dr. Pierce in his sneering contempt for Joe Sixpack and Sally Soccermom.
I grew up with those folks. They're relatives, neighbors, friends. But they're also willfully ignorant fools who've read nothing, travelled nowhere, know zippo about nada.
And these sheeple have the vote - real political power that they sell to whichever politician promises them the most goodies (at the expense of others) and who looks best on television.
These people are so fat and numbed by cheap beer and Monday Night Football that they'll take the country down the path to destruction ZOG has set out for it.
Frankly, it wouldn't bother me much if it didn't cost me so dearly. But these morons are spending my tax dollars to support really, really bad stuff, and all because they want to be liked by the electronic mirages they see on tv.
No, Q my friend, they've fallen down a moral hole and there's no bouncing back for them without first hitting a very abrupt bottom (and even then I don't think they have much bounce left in them).
Walter[/QUOTE] This quote from Walter appeared on another thread, and it got me thinking a bit. I didn't want to hijack that thread, so I have used it as the jumping off point for this one. I hope he won't mind. What I am thinking about is this: Walter is right about the American masses -- they are brainwashed, ignorant, and clueless. This was really brought home to me this past weekend, when I was tailgating with a bunch of folks. The talk turned to politics, and it struck that these folks are on another planet, politically speaking, from myself. It is not just little things here or there, they have a fundamentally different view of everything.
So here is my question -- what books (or movies, or magazines, or music, or whatever) would be best for trying to begin awakening somebody from their propaganda coma? I am talking about normal folks here, the kind you see at the mall, and the kind who go to the bowling alley, so I don't think it would do much good to hand them a copy of Culture of Critique. I am looking for works that are insightful AND accessible. Suggestions?
2004-09-07 18:13 | User Profile
One that comes to mind for me is 'The Death of the West' by Pat Buchanan. It is not too long, it is well-written, and it touches on a lot of important issues. It does have a couple of downsides, however. One is that Buchanan's name has been so besmirched in the media that some people will balk at reading it. Two is that, while it is straightforward and fairly short, it still requires some interest in politics, history, or current affairs for a person to read it. Therefore, it would still be difficult to get many people to give it a chance, when they could be watching Fear Factor.
2004-09-09 14:39 | User Profile
Folks, I'm bumping this, because I am still hoping to get some replies. Surely somebody can think of some books along these lines? I feel quite certain the majority of you didn't jump from People magazine to Culture of Critique. I am looking for suggestions for books that are both insightful and accessible. I am really looking for things to loan out to a couple buddies of mine, so this isn't merely an intellectual exercise for me.
2004-09-09 22:08 | User Profile
The Dispossed Majority made the biggest impact on me. This was one of the first books I read, even before Duke's Awakening or Pat's book. I found it to be highly informative and even though it was written in the 70-80's only helped to push the point home even further. Here, all those years the stuff I taught wasn't as rock solid as was told and most of it written from a biased perspective. It made me really want to study newer and current works helping to awaken me even more.
I started with Dr.Pierce's audio broadcasts but some might not have a strong stomach for that right off the bat.
I can also recommend the Occidental Quarterly issues, maybe some AmRen or Barnes Review stuff. Even easier reading would be some issues of American Free Press.
2004-09-10 08:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]One that comes to mind for me is 'The Death of the West' by Pat Buchanan. It is not too long, it is well-written, and it touches on a lot of important issues. It does have a couple of downsides, however. One is that Buchanan's name has been so besmirched in the media that some people will balk at reading it. Two is that, while it is straightforward and fairly short, it still requires some interest in politics, history, or current affairs for a person to read it. Therefore, it would still be difficult to get many people to give it a chance, when they could be watching Fear Factor.[/QUOTE]
Nearly all your objections could be applied to anything useful. I say "The Death of the West" is an excellent choice, precisely because it is short (plus has a snappy title). And at least people have heard of Buchanan, which makes him sort of a celebrity, i.e. one of their gods.
2004-09-10 09:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]Folks, I'm bumping this, because I am still hoping to get some replies. Surely somebody can think of some books along these lines? I feel quite certain the majority of you didn't jump from People magazine to Culture of Critique. I am looking for suggestions for books that are both insightful and accessible. I am really looking for things to loan out to a couple buddies of mine, so this isn't merely an intellectual exercise for me.[/QUOTE]
"The Future of Man," by Kenneth Klark Graham, might be a good one (although its very strongly pro-Darwinist, so some of you guys wouldn't like it). There are two editions. One of them (the one I've read) is the short one, i.e only like 100 pages long. Its an excellent and highly accessible treatise on practical eugenics. It never mentions race, but certain implications on that subject are almost inescapable. Its available from National Vanguard Books (I think they have both editions, and while the longer one is probably better for people like us - I bought the shorter one 'cause it was cheaper - the pamplet-length one is much more suited for that particular Boobus Americanus who just might be able to evolve into something higher, since he's probably not a big reader). What we really need are t.v. & movies, sad to say. The National Alliance has an outreach video, but its really more suited to getting WNs to join the Alliance, rather than for getting people to see things from a WN perspective.
2004-09-10 09:38 | User Profile
I find that Israel Shahak's "Jewish History, Jewish Religion" has tremendous propaganda value.
I've purchased several copies, and you'd be amazed how people REACT to it.
It flies in under their doublethink radar because it's written by patriotic Israeli Jew and Holocaust survivor. And boy does it pack a wallop.
Get it, and pass it around.
Once the ice is broken, then hit them with something else from Ygg's list.
Of course - and this is a really important point - this only works on people who otherwise actually READ. The people you're describing probably don't read much beyond pulp fiction. Such folks are incapable of independent thought, and can only be ruled. The recognized globe and scepter nowadays is control of the boob tube. So, if you're not on tv, they will not be able to recognize you as their leader and they'll tune you out.
So forget them, at least for the time being. Remember that the mindless proles are outside politics. Don't waste your time on them, unless you can somehow get on television.
Concentrate on the people who read - the Outer Party. The war is the Inner Party versus the Outer Party. Our task is to awaken the Outer Party.
Hit them with Shahak's book, and then start talking to them. Send them Justim Raimondo's articles on Israeli spying. It's a small start, but I've met with considerable success with this tactic. A couple of the copies of Shahak's book were passed around quietly for months and read by many more (of whom I do not know) before being returned to me, only to be lent out again.
Orwell wrote in 1984 something to the effect that the only hope we have is to widen the circle of sanity by carrying the message to one person at a time. That's our job.
Walter
2004-09-10 12:29 | User Profile
Kevin, Walter, CrazyFrank, thanks for the suggestions. As to your point, Walter: [QUOTE=Walter Yannis] Of course - and this is a really important point - this only works on people who otherwise actually READ.[/QUOTE] The friend I have in mind does read, and he is quite intelligent, but his conditioned response to anything that he had been told was 'racist' would be strongly negative. That's why I am looking for accessible books.
But, Kevin, you are probably right. Anything so tame that it cant be objected to is probably too tame to be of any value. I might have to push it a bit.
2004-09-10 13:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]Kevin, Walter, CrazyFrank, thanks for the suggestions. As to your point, Walter: The friend I have in mind does read, and he is quite intelligent, but his conditioned response to anything that he had been told was 'racist' would be strongly negative. That's why I am looking for accessible books.
But, Kevin, you are probably right. Anything so tame that it cant be objected to is probably too tame to be of any value. I might have to push it a bit.[/QUOTE]
Try Shahak.
It packs a punch, but doesn't elicit the doublethink response.
I urge you to give it a try.
W
2004-09-10 15:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]The friend I have in mind does read, and he is quite intelligent, but his conditioned response to anything that he had been told was 'racist' would be strongly negative. That's why I am looking for accessible books.[/QUOTE] Jean Raspail's Camp of Saints
2004-09-10 18:38 | User Profile
This is a tough question, good books are only part of what's needed to jolt people out of apathy, but it is a start. I don't read many new books but more or less stick to older classics
I like De Tocqueville's Democracy in America. At least it gets one thinking about what causes civilizations to rise and fall. Same with Plato's Republic but most people today wouldn't give those a second glance. Walter is right - You just can't recommend Bertrand Russell to soccer moms and dads(If you want to keep your friends anyway). I grew up without television and as I get older I realize what a blessing that was. If people could just think long term rather than "what's on tv tonight" we would make a lot of progress.
One modern history I would recommend is James Reston's [I]The Last Apocalypse[/I]. Its the story of how Christian culture was nearly obliterated by the triple threat of Vikings, Huns and Muslims circa 1000 AD. It concludes that 1000 years later we are in a similiar fix. Good readable book to get people thinking.
Some modern books like [I]Why Johnny Can't Think[/I] by Walter Karp or anything by Richard Mitchell show how poor our schools are. I've also recomended Robert Stinnet's expose of Pearl Harbor [I]Day of Deceipt[/I] to a friend. At least it opens people to the possibility that our government is less than honest. Some folks here may not like Thomas Sowell, but I thought his [I]Vision of the Anointed[/I] was pretty good.
C.S. Lewis's Pilgrim's Regress and also his space trilogy are very entertaining books that attack a lot of modern assumptions. I'm not sure if these are along the lines you're interested in or not. Obviously there are better books out there but these are some books I would realistically recommend to friends or acquaintences.
2005-01-26 15:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Try Shahak.
It packs a punch, but doesn't elicit the doublethink response.
I urge you to give it a try.
W[/QUOTE] Walt, I finally got around to reading this, and I finished it last night. Quite interesting, indeed. Shahak strikes me as a rather doctrinaire liberal, but he is exceptional in that he is one of the only Jews who is actually willing to turn his leftist, universalist, egalitarian views back onto himself and Judaism, which produces a devastating critique. I think I will pass this one on to my leftist friend. Shahak's liberalism, which I considered something to be tolerated in order to glean the underlying information, would actually make my friend more favorably disposed towards the author and his message.
2005-01-26 15:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]Walt, I finally got around to reading this, and I finished it last night. Quite interesting, indeed. Shahak strikes me as a rather doctrinaire liberal, but he is exceptional in that he is one of the only Jews who is actually willing to turn his leftist, universalist, egalitarian views back onto himself and Judaism, which produces a devastating critique. I think I will pass this one on to my leftist friend. Shahak's liberalism, which I considered something to be tolerated in order to glean the underlying information, would actually make my friend more favorably disposed towards the author and his message.[/QUOTE]
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2005-01-27 01:50 | User Profile
"The Blank Slate" by Stephen Pinker
"The Antichrist" by F.W. Nietzsche
"The Doctrine of Awakening" by Julius Evola
"The Wasteland and other Poems" by T.S. Eliot
2005-01-27 02:59 | User Profile
Q,
Here's a good book that isn't very long and easy to read for your friends. Lou Dobbs' Exporting America. This might get their attention, after all, I know they care about money. It goes well with Buchanan. If they don't like to read and prefer tv, then get them to watch Lou Dobbs Tonight. All sorts of good stuff there about outsourcing, exporting manufacturing and illegal immigration.
2005-01-27 03:15 | User Profile
This one's easy: "ALIEN NATION" by Peter Brimelow.
A white person could not possibly put this book down. It's great, well-written, and a severe "in-your-face" to the opposition.
("Hope of the Wicked" is even better, but too many dismiss it as too "black-chopper" for them)
2005-01-28 02:02 | User Profile
Everyone, Thanks for the suggestions. I enjoyed the Shahak book, and I think I may try to get him started with that. When he sees that the forewords are by Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky, his leftism will force him to give the book a fair reading.