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MacDonald CSA [OP]

2004-08-23 01:57 | User Profile

**Senate Republicans Weigh Dismantling CIA By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN **

WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Intelligence Committee Republicans proposed removing the nation's largest intelligence gathering operations from the CIA and the Pentagon and putting them directly under a new national intelligence director.

Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., the committee chairman, unveiled on Sunday the most sweeping intelligence reorganization proposal offered by anyone since the Sept. ll commission called for major changes. In an appearance on CBS' ``Face the Nation,'' Roberts acknowledged that full details had yet to be shared with either the White House or with Senate Democrats.

                                                         ``We didn't pay attention to turf or agencies or boxes'' but rather to ``what are the national security threats that face this country today,'' Roberts said of the bill endorsed by eight GOP members of the intelligence committee. ``I'm trying to build a consensus around something that's very different and very bold.''

But he immediately ran into some resistance from a Democrat on his own committee. Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., said that before appearing with Roberts on the CBS show neither he nor the committee's ranking Democrat, Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, had seen the full proposal.

I think it would be better to start on a bipartisan basis,'' Levin said.I think it's a mistake to begin with a partisan bill no matter what is in it.''

The commission that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks **called for a powerful national intelligence director who could force the nation's many agencies to cooperate. **

Up to now the debate has focused on how much power to give that official rather than on retooling agencies. Most Democrats have supported the commission's proposal that the new director have authority over hiring and spending by the intelligence agencies. President Bush has endorsed creating the position but has not reached a final decision on what powers the office should have.

Roberts said his aides had spoken with White House officials and would share the details of his proposal with them on Monday.

Roberts' bill would take the CIA's three main directorates - Operations, which runs intelligence collection and covert actions; Intelligence, which analyzes intelligence reports; and Science and Technology - and puts them into new, separate and renamed agencies, each reporting to a separate assistant national intelligence director. It also would remove three of the largest intelligence agencies from the Pentagon.

Although the measure would essentially dismantle the CIA, Roberts said in a paper he released: ``We are not abolishing the CIA. We are reordering and renaming its three major elements.''

``No one agency, no matter how distinguished its history, is more important than U.S. national security,'' the paper said.

Equally drastic changes were proposed at the Pentagon.

**The nation's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency, which intercepts electronic signals around the world, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which analyzes satellite pictures, would be removed from the Pentagon and put under direct control of an assistant national intelligence director for collection. **

The Defense Intelligence Agency's human intelligence collection activity would become a separate agency, like the former CIA directorate of operations.

Both would report to the same assistant national intelligence director for collection. This official also would have direct line control over the FBI's counterintelligence and counterterrorism units, although they would continue to operate within the FBI administratively and would still be subject to attorney general guidelines.

The Pentagon's huge National Reconnaissance Office, which operates spy satellites, would work under an assistant national intelligence director for Research, Development and Acquisition. That same assistant would also run the CIA's former directorate of science and technology as an independent agency called the Office of Technical Support.

In a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing last week, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld advised moving cautiously in restructuring the intelligence community.

If we move unwisely and get it wrong, the penalty would be great,'' Rumsfeld said.We would not want to place new barriers or filters between military combatant commanders and those agencies when they perform as combat-support agencies.''

Perhaps mindful of that warning, Roberts' plan would create a separate assistant national intelligence director for military support and a four-star director of military intelligence who would run Defense Department tactical intelligence units and report directly to the defense secretary.

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Faust

2004-08-23 03:12 | User Profile

MacDonald CSA,

I think the Department of Homeland Security is an American MKVD!


Ponce

2004-08-23 03:36 | User Profile

By letting that happen there would be an influx of new people at the top and I am willing to bet that at least one out of five would be working under direct orders of the Jews.

The CIA have being doing just fine for the past 60 years and there is no reason to change it.

As you know the Jews are allowed to go in and out of the Pentagon at will and some of them with out even clearence or a special permit.

Its time to clean house, starting at the top , in order to find out who is who and who has a need to know,,,,,,, that rule is being broken all the time now days.


Okiereddust

2004-08-23 09:46 | User Profile

The commission that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks called for a powerful national intelligence director who could force the nation's many agencies to cooperate.

It certainly does sound like an MKVD.

They talk about the need for coordinating ournations intelligence agencies. But this overlooks a fundamental reason for keeping the agencies seperate (CIA and FBI). The FBI works at home, where its activities are subject to constitutional protections. CIA operatives work with non-citizens, abroad.

Of course with our immigration laws, half the world can come here tomorrow anyway. So I guess its goodbye constitution.

Liberty Forum must have some discussion on this too. That stuff ought to be right up those libertarians alley.