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Thread ID: 14782 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2004-08-22
2004-08-22 22:12 | User Profile
[URL=http://www.drudgereport.com/flashpb.htm]BUCHANAN BOOK DECLARES: 'NO CONSERVATIVE PARTY LEFT IN WASHINGTON'[/URL]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312341156/[/url]
ââ¬ÅKristolââ¬â¢s warning that neoconservatives could go to Kerry was an admission of what many have long recognized. The neoconservatives are not really conservatives at all. They are impostors and opportunists.ââ¬Â (250)
ââ¬Å[L]istening to the neoconservatives, Bush invaded Iraq, united the Arab world against us, isolated us from Europe, and fulfilled to the letter bin Ladenââ¬â¢s prophecy as to what we were about. We won the war in three weeks -- and we may have lost the Islamic world for a generation. (84)
ââ¬ÅAlongside the Gingrich Republicans, Bill Clinton was Bob Taft.ââ¬Â (191)
ââ¬ÅHow did it happen that a republic born of a rebellion against a king and parliament we did not elect has fallen under a tyranny of judges we did not elect? How did we come to live under what Jefferson warned us would be ââ¬Ëthe despotism of an oligarchyââ¬â¢?ââ¬Â (217)
2004-08-23 01:14 | User Profile
There is already a review of Pat's book at Amazon when it has yet to go on sale?!! Up to four years ago I could never imagine I'd say what I'm going to say, but I now believe that mainstream conservatives (the neo-cons, their pseudo-patriot goyim stooges, et al.) are much more treacherous, and infinitely more dangerous, than liberals. I say this simply because the latter is too diverse to march lock-step (when the commands come down from Sharon's office).
2004-08-23 01:22 | User Profile
I've picked this book up twice, and looked through it, but, didn't buy it.
I just can't get into buying a book, written by Buchanan that says that Ronnie Raygun was anything but a tool of the jews and GE. It was nice that after Raygun had been in office for nearly 3 years, and was in trouble politically, that he had good sense enough to bring Pat into his administration.
Pat writes too big about Raygun...
2004-08-23 01:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Pennsylvania_Dutch]I've picked this book up twice, and looked through it, but, didn't buy it.
I just can't get into buying a book, written by Buchanan that says that Ronnie Raygun was anything but a tool of the jews and GE. It was nice that after Raygun had been in office for nearly 3 years, and was in trouble politically, that he had good sense enough to bring Pat into his administration.
Pat writes too big about Raygun...[/QUOTE] This can't be correct? Pat's book doesn't hit the stands until 09/01/04, right?
I do agree with you about Pat's hagiographic talk about Reagan. Reagan gave us Islamism by supporting some Mohammadan mountain monkeys against some white [de facto, Christian] guys in Afghanistan. On 9/11 I told family members that authorities need to arrest Reagan, Breszinski, Rohrbacher, et al., and charge them as accessories to the murder of 3,000 Americans.
2004-08-23 02:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jack Cassidy]This can't be correct? Pat's book doesn't hit the stands until 09/01/04, right?
I do agree with you about Pat's hagiographic talk about Reagan. Reagan gave us Islamism by supporting some Mohammadan mountain monkeys against some white [de facto, Christian] guys in Afghanistan. On 9/11 I told family members that authorities need to arrest Reagan, Breszinski, Rohrbacher, et al., and charge them as accessories to the murder of 3,000 Americans.[/QUOTE] Border's has had it for about 10 days or more...
2004-08-23 03:27 | User Profile
SARTRE,
All too true!
'NO CONSERVATIVE PARTY LEFT IN WASHINGTON'
2004-08-23 10:41 | User Profile
Faust,
It should be beyond dispute that "real conservatives" have been purged from the GOP. The mere fact that the word conservative now has a negative image rest solely upon the NeoCons. Those of us who come into conflict with Libertarians, usually part company over Free Trade.
Pat B may not be perfect to some; however, who was right on most issues more since George Wallace? Let's all be honest, true political solutions are impossible when the election process is a fraud.
When Bob Taft was robbed for the nomination and given to Ike, Republicanism (of the old right version, not the Lincoln model) died.
Jeffersonian values were called democratic. Many of his core positions can be found within genuine traditional conservatism. Today both names have been soiled and have lost their meaning to the brainwashed public.
Our task should be to create a new name that will embody our shared principles. Any ideas from OD members?
SARTRE
2004-08-23 20:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=SARTRE]Faust,
It should be beyond dispute that "real conservatives" have been purged from the GOP. The mere fact that the word conservative now has a negative image rest solely upon the NeoCons. Those of us who come into conflict with Libertarians, usually part company over Free Trade.
Pat B may not be perfect to some; however, who was right on most issues more since George Wallace? Let's all be honest, true political solutions are impossible when the election process is a fraud.
When Bob Taft was robbed for the nomination and given to Ike, Republicanism (of the old right version, not the Lincoln model) died.
Jeffersonian values were called democratic. Many of his core positions can be found within genuine traditional conservatism. Today both names have been soiled and have lost their meaning to the brainwashed public.
Our task should be to create a new name that will embody our shared principles. Any ideas from OD members?
SARTRE[/QUOTE]So here's my problem, how do I describe myself politically? Even the description "paleo-conservative" is adopted by some mainstream conservatives I would categorize as neo-con. I'm not a white racialist since I think most whites are part of the problem, and are certainly opposed to my views (stupidly so, IMO). I am opposed to this whole neo-confederate thing, especially when I see a good percentage of the idiot goyim stooges raising the American flag for Likudnik pseudo-patriotic causes are Southerners/rebels. Hell, I think I'm more at home with the New England yuppie intelligensia over the Republican rebels with all their pseudo-patriotic talk about "fightin' for freedom, blah, blah, blah."
2004-08-24 13:50 | User Profile
Jack Cassidy,
You are not alone in your apprehension. Language still should have meaning, but in todayââ¬â¢s world, few make the connection of the significance for terms. The ideas behind the words MUST express a clear purpose.
Have used the term paleo-conservative for some time. We certainly are in the mold of a traditional conservative. However, Okiereddust offers up a fine description - revolutionary conservative. Isn't that exactly what we all should be? The problem is that such a description never passes the filter of the brain dead media educated mainstream. The general public is virtually ignorant about history, and especially our own heritage.
When we return to writing, will develop a new series that deals with our history, relationships to current events and possible solutions. As most readers know, it is our position that very few options, that lead to real possible solutions, based upon the deterioration of world affairs.
Race is important, while not a guarantor of intelligent behavior. Agree that many ââ¬Ågood old boysââ¬Â wave the empire banner, because they forgot about the underlying reasons regarding the bloody flag. The key to understand what a ââ¬Åreal conservativeââ¬Â believes is found in the nature and purpose of fighting the War for Independence. The 1776 revolution was valid; and today, it is even more relevant.
The risk of breaking bread with the ââ¬ÅNew England yuppie intelligensiaââ¬Â, is that they believe in empire and a strong central State. That viewpoint is entire in error.
Our friend Jimmy Cantrell, and BATR Group member, takes the uncompromising position that the WASP culture is at the core of the failed U.S. governmental experience. For a Yankee, born and educated, we side with the legitimate goals of separation and secession. A true conservative is a staunch supporter of individual civil liberties. The missing factor that Liberals and Progressives are unable to understand or accept is that equality does NOT exist, even though we all share a common human nature. A realistic conservative respects nature and does not seek a social engineering for society.
A harmonious community is one that is made up of its own kind and desires to restrict contamination elements. The ideology of ââ¬Å States Rightsââ¬Â is a basic conservative position. An actual conservative does NOT seek to save the world, but is committed to liberate himself.
It should be self evident that a conservative community is NOT compatible with a secular society. Those who have a need for peace surrender their right for Liberty. Accepting slavery for unanimity is insane. We all know that the vast majority accept the sick ââ¬ËPCââ¬â¢ culture. Itââ¬â¢s up to the defenders of traditional civilization to rebel against the power structure. The freedom that is worthy of the struggle is found in displacing the power elite. In the end, its a war of ideas . . .
SARTRE
2004-08-24 22:42 | User Profile
I wonder if all the major neocon websites like NewsMax and WorldNetDaily will plug this book and stock it in their online stores like they did Death of the West.
And I wonder if PJB has the courage and insight to discuss the relationship between neocon elites and Christian Zionist masses in his book. This book--like the Iraq war--could be another effective wheat/chaff separator in what passes as "conservatism" nowadays.