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Thread ID: 14313 | Posts: 32 | Started: 2004-06-25
2004-06-25 00:00 | User Profile
Just in case any of you are interested, I'll post some info and links on jewish IQ (they are farther down the post). For years, a lot of people have blindly followed along while the jews and their cohorts in publishing slowly kept pushing the "average" IQ for jews (Ashkenazi) higher and higher. I watched the claim grow from 108 to 110 to 113 to 115 to 117 since 1988. Dr. Richard Lynn, one of the big names in psychometry (and a co-author of Intelligence And The Wealth of Nations) has tried to set the story straight. Even from my humble reading I knew the numbers were skewed, and in some cases, outright lies. We all know the reasoning behind some of the lying.
Lynn himself had been using the 113 figure, but decided to investigate and use all the info available. The claims of 110 and higher were based on tests given to small, select groups of youngsters. The average for jews is actually 107.5. The bulge above the white average of 100 is due to a higher average on the verbal portion of most IQ tests. Whites outscore jews, on average in the visuo-spatial tests. Asians outscore whites, on average, in the visuo-spatial tests, and score lower than whites on the verbal. Whites are unique among all the races, as they are the only group that seems to have a balance between the verbal and visuospatial. Some theorize that this is where the astounding inventiveness and creativity, the imagination, may come from. I will agree as others have said, whites would be well served to have their children put in some of the study time that the jewish and Asian youngsters put in daily. Whites actually have an advantage over Asians and jews when it comes to individuals with IQ's of 120 and up. No doubt jews are horrified at the thought of a racially aware white cognitive elite.
Whites have a wider SD (standard deviation) than Asians and jews, 15 points versus 8.8 for E. Asians and 8.6 for jews. There were some claims that the SD for Asians was 12.8 - but that was due to disingenuous individuals factoring in lower IQ's of some SE Asian groups (while not lowering the overall IQ average for Asians as they should have done if they were going to add in the 'darker' folks of Asia).
So please, enough of this "117" average talk when it comes to Ashkenazi jews. Whites; 100. E. Asians; 105 jews; 107.
Yes, they are smart and studious. Also devious and ethno-centric to the point of malevolence toward all others, especially their main threat - organized, racially aware whites. That's why they choose to keep whites in the dark in so many ways. And destroy their culture ... as they seek to do with everything else in the West.
We could go into Nobel Prizes. But I believe the majority of jewish winners are economists - who seem to ALL be wrong for the most part when it comes to the real world. I'll have to double check, as of course jewish physicists will garner the press. Also, considering some of the behind the scenes politicking and pressure, especially the last 50 years when it comes to the Nobel prize, I'd say a re-examination might be due some winner's stories or achievements. Given that so many jews, even brilliant jews, are "hackers" in the sciences, synthesizing or outright stealing the work of others (and enjoying the protection of the press, academia, and various governments), I'm not sure what to think. I saw this literally in person at UCLA years ago, when a couple of jews stole another doctor's groundbreaking work on schizophrenia - when it seemed EVERYONE knew what had happened - yet the school covered up, the press played up the jews and ignored the real story, students not "in the know" scratched their heads, and it seemed the man who made the disoveries was "pacified" in some manner. It was disgraceful.
[url]http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/02-14-04/discussion.cgi.24.html[/url] [url]http://www.rlynn.co.uk/[/url] [url]http://www.enterstageright.com/cgi-bin/gm/archives/00000882.htm[/url] - with an interesting comment by some on what "paleos" will think of what Lynn shows about jewish IQ, with a link to more, including the pretend to be cutting edge but really PC Steve Sailer on the subject.
Of course, Lynn's most interesting work is that which shows that black and brown countries are not going to get anywhere, they don't have the intellectual capital, and that the average IQ in the US is dropping, as more and more "hispanics" enter the population, adding their low (for the most part, black-level) IQ's into the mix. He also said that (especially in white countries) the populations are becoming dysgenic. It can be remedied, but it is disturbing nonetheless. He also says that in the future some societies will no doubt use genetic engineering to improve their "stock", especially for military purposes. Gee, what a surprise.
BTW - the ladies might not like it, but work by Lynn, Rushton, others shows that men have a higher average IQ than women by about 4 points - which generally shows up in spatial and in some non-verbal areas of reasoning. American blacks have higher IQ's than blacks in Africa due to an admixture of caucasian genes - but they are still 15 points behind whites. A huge difference. Amerindians and mestizos are really no better off when it comes to IQ averages, but the structure of their intelligence is different.
Ok, enough boring you guys. Hopefully the info will help whenever you get into an arguement with one of the "We're All The Same" sheeple under the spell of ZOG.
2004-06-25 01:07 | User Profile
I suppose it's up to me to play Devil's Advocate.
WHAAAAA, you're just racist! Science has proven there's no such thing as race! IQ tests are racist! There are different kinds of intelligence! If we didn't underfund black schools, blacks would score better! Ooooh, the oppresssion blacks face every day! If you were a slave for 400 years, you would do worse on IQ tests! Blacks are as smart as whites and the proof is that blacks invented peanut butter, the light bulb, and the computer!
2004-06-25 02:01 | User Profile
[color=black]...[/color]blacks invented peanut butter, the light bulb, and the computer!
Don't forget the white man! Dey made him too!
[color=black]When, in accordance with the will of Allah, the Earth was separated from Luna by an explosion in the year 65,999,999,998,062 B.C., there appeared on the planet the black race. For almost 66 trillion years those perfect beings dwelt in perfect happiness, speaking Arabic and leading the joyous and unfettered life now to be found in the jungles of the Congo. The universal bliss was troubled, however, in 4707 B.C., when a scientist named Yakub determined to create, artificially, a race of debased and inferior creatures. He worked steadily for 600 years, and finally, by ââ¬Ågraftingââ¬Â and ââ¬Årigid birth control,ââ¬Â he produced the ââ¬Åblue-eyed devils,ââ¬Â i.e., white men, who are physically weak and totally evil. Allah, for purposes of his own, and intending the ultimate exaltation of his chosen people (blacks, in this instance), who are the only true human beings, permitted the white devils to interfere with nature and set up that nasty thing called civilization. He even permitted the vile ââ¬Åspooksââ¬Â to dominate and enslave the chosen people by devising the ââ¬Ådevil-doctrineââ¬Â called Christianity. He decreed, however, that the white swine were to rule the world for exactly 6,000 years. Their time was up in 1914. (Apparently Christianity was invented about 4000 B.C.) But they are now enjoying a few ââ¬Åyears of graceââ¬Â until the black man can rise and exterminate them from the face of the Earth and come into his own again. Of this there can be no doubt, because ââ¬Åall historyââ¬Â has been ââ¬Åwritten in advance by 24 black scientists.ââ¬Â [/color]
2004-06-25 04:35 | User Profile
You mean to say that this dumb Cuban IQ is better than the one of a Jew? Ayyyyyyyyyy mama.
I was tested twice in the Army, first time 110 and second time 117, after I came out I was tested by Mensa and they came out with a 123,,,,,, my wife 134.
And all this time I was more intelligent (I wont say smarter for there is a difference).
2004-06-25 06:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]You mean to say that this dumb Cuban IQ is better than the one of a Jew? Ayyyyyyyyyy mama.
I was tested twice in the Army, first time 110 and second time 117, after I came out I was tested by Mensa and they came out with a 123,,,,,, my wife 134.
And all this time I was more intelligent (I wont say smarter for there is a difference).[/QUOTE] But you still don't know about the make up of congress!
2004-06-25 07:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Roy Batty]Amerindians and mestizos are really no better off when it comes to IQ averages, but the structure of their intelligence is different. [/QUOTE]
Roy: great stuff.
Please elaborate on Amerindian IQ.
I grew up next to two reservations, and had a number of Indian classmates.
They definitely were NOT good at either reading or math, and I suppose that's mostly verbal reasoning.
But man were they ever good as a group at art (they could mostly draw beautifully) and other of the applied arts. The Indian boys were into shop, mostly, and they worshipped their cars and motorcycles. And they were great mechanics, carpenters. The girls tended to like to sew stuff.
Of course, they tended to drink so much at such an young age that most of them never amounted to much. But I have to suspect that the Indians had very high spatial-visual IQs.
Please advise.
Walter
2004-06-25 17:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OPERA96]But you still don't know about the make up of congress![/QUOTE]
Opera? You are my hero, if I knew everything that you know I too could be a God, instead I am nothing more than a humble Cuban refugee.
The only thing that I should be ashamed of is my poor English, and I am not.
By the way, I just read that the "average" American IQ is now 98? What ever happened to the 100 average?
The average IQ of a Mexican is 87, well, I don't know about that, it looks like they are winning the war in the US,,,,,,, after reading a very good article about Mexicans coming into the US illegally, in Rense.com, I am beginning to get scared.
2004-06-26 02:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Roy: great stuff.
Please elaborate on Amerindian IQ.
I grew up next to two reservations, and had a number of Indian classmates.
They definitely were NOT good at either reading or math, and I suppose that's mostly verbal reasoning.
But man were they ever good as a group at art (they could mostly draw beautifully) and other of the applied arts. The Indian boys were into shop, mostly, and they worshipped their cars and motorcycles. And they were great mechanics, carpenters. The girls tended to like to sew stuff.
Of course, they tended to drink so much at such an young age that most of them never amounted to much. But I have to suspect that the Indians had very high spatial-visual IQs.
Please advise.
Walter[/QUOTE] Walter, when I have time, I'll pull up some info I have - and the links - and post them. The structure of the Amerindians is the same as the Asians, it's just that their numbers - their average - is lower. The bulk of the Amerindian - and mestizo - IQ is in the visuospatial. They actually don't score as high as Whites on average in this area. But this area is what they use for the bulk of their "reasoning". This is what they use to think, rely on to solve problems. Whites use a mixture of different types of reasoning more than most other groups.
When I left programming and got into CG, much of it of course was due to artistic talent I have - that I could take advantage of ( at least I like to thinks so : )! ). I could see the hordes of IT braceros that the industry was soon to import gathering on the horizon. Back to CG (some of you know I work in CGI/Special Effects - if you didn't know, now you do) I have noticed that Amerindians and mestizos are able to draw and paint, to a point. Most of them seem to reach a certain level, and while some of it looks ok, or "good", it has a stilted quality to it. I guess it's hard to explain, but if any of you are artists out there, you'll know what I mean. It's similar to what I see from Asian guys applying for work where I am now, and at some other places. Here's an example: The guys (all nationalities) who come in from the Art Center School of Design present us their portfolios. Their work,well, for 95% of them, is similar, in the same style. That's a failing with the school. Amongst the Asian guys, their work is almost indistinguishable from one to another! I kid you not. 99 out of 100 will have styles that are exactly the same, whether it's drawing, painting, modeling... (Yes, under direction, they can do the work - it's just that they are then following or using what someone else desgined - I'm not claiming all are this way - but almost all of them) It is as if the Asian's abilities are genectically programmed to be identical. And it's almost the same for the few mestizos or other non-whites who show up. This goes for their drawings, paintings, 3D animation demos, 2D demos and so on. For the most part, and believe me, it's not just because I'm white, the whites seem to have the most flair, seem to be able to develop their own style. The Asians are as technically proficient as the whites, but most of them present a cold quality in their work, if you get my drift. Anyway, back to the "Indians", I think that the drawing ability is something genetic, and I'd bet their work was similar to that of other Indians in the school. Maybe these peoples rely exclusively on the visuospatial for "art", and thus aren't being analytical enough in other areas that could advance their work, improve their work, make professionals go "wow". Almost the same as programming, where the Asians and E. Indians have very very few individuals who could make anyone go "wow" with their abilities.
The Indians weren't good at reading or math - most of them anyway - simply because they weren't smart enough. But they were interested enough in mechanics to learn about it.
Visuospatial ability will help with mechanics, math etc. But it isn't the end all, as verbal reasoning, and analytical reasoning can also handle info in different ways. Jews do not do well in visuospatial testing, but obviously do well in math, as they use their verbal reasoning to get things done. Whites don't score as high as Asians on average on visuospatial tests, but most of the very top mathematicians in the world are white - even though the "average" scores for Asians on math tests are higher than the averages for whites. It isn't only because there are more whites on the far right hand side of the curve, it's probably that balance between verbal reasoning and visuospatial reasoning that whites have. A side note, it's rarely mentioned that on the GRE, whites outscore jews and Asians, on average, on the analytical portion of the test. Asians have a slightly higher average on the math, jews a slightly higher average on the verbal, with the highest individual scores usually going to whites. I think with the lackadaisical approach mosts white parents have toward making their children study, the jewish and Asian averages on the SAT are a bit higher above the white average than they would be if whites were to put in the same amount of study time. Most white kids put in less study time per week than the Asians and jews do per day, as has been reported many times. Work does help. The IQ might not go up much, but the abilities are utilized, the brain is worked. Potential is met.
As to people mentioning they have a higher IQ than the jewish average, etc. A lot of people have higher IQ's than the jewish average. But we're talking about group averages. Jews and Asians are clustered around their respective "means" a lot more than whites, but this also means that they have a high number of people who can get through college, who are smart enough to stay out of brown and black style trouble. Whites actually have more people at the far right hand side, but there are also more whites on the left hand side also. So the overall average is lower for whites than these two other groups. Dr. MacDonald has mentioned that he has no doubt that if the "smart whites" were organized, were thinking racially, they would overcome jews in short order when it comes to our government simply because there are so many more smart whites.
It is interesting that LaGriffe and Arthur Hu know about all of this, but excuse it away, as they are such rabid jewish and Asian ethnocentric, supremacist tub-thumpers. Yet they will use any material that shows whites are lower in some areas than other groups. All the while ignoring material, proof, that shows the their two favorite peoples to be inferior in other areas of endeavor. Hu is interesting, as he says whites are more imaginative because they are more daring - and at the same time almost claiming the daring, the adventurousness, is due to some type of stupidity, or lesser mental capability. Whites are adventurous because they are dreamers, because they have imagination, because they are inventive. Things that aren't seen in great levels in the jewish population, and seem to be totally lacking in the Asian population. The ability to learn, memorize, comprehend still can't overcome the lack of imagination or inborn talent. Hu and LaGriffe are both interesting, as they say to e-mail them if you have questions or disagreements, or new facts. They have never gotten back to me or others when we did bring up this or similar material. Because they only want to "publish" favorable material about their own, and ignore the warts. That's why we'll win out in the end, again. The supreme arrogance that most non-whites seem to possess. It's a fatal flaw.
2004-06-26 04:03 | User Profile
I take off my hat to you dear sir, not only are you smart but also intelligent,,,,, Is hard to meet a person that have those two qualities at the same time. I, for example, am intelligent but not smart.
By reading what you wrote I now can clearly understand where my 110, 117 and 123 IQ came from,,,,,,and is not from books, so in a way you made me feel better about going only to the 10th grade and why I hated school so much.
One thing about school is that they can only teach you what they know and not what you should know,,,,,, to me that was like placing me in a legs iron.
Now days the schools are producing workers and not thinkers and even if you are very well paid you will always be only a worker.
The only way to be someone is to make it on your own and to hell with the world, I did it, don't depend on anyone to hold your hand.
2004-06-26 16:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Roy Batty][COLOR=Red][I]Walter, when I have time, I'll pull up some info I have - and the links - and post them[/I][/COLOR]...
As to people mentioning they have a higher IQ than the jewish average, etc. A lot of people have higher IQ's than the jewish average. But we're talking about group averages. Jews and Asians are clustered around their respective "means" a lot more than whites, but this also means that they have a high number of people who can get through college, who are smart enough to stay out of brown and black style trouble. Whites actually have more people at the far right hand side, but there are also more whites on the left hand side also. So the overall average is lower for whites than these two other groups. Dr. MacDonald has mentioned that he has no doubt that if the "smart whites" were organized, were thinking racially, they would overcome jews in short order when it comes to our government simply because there are so many more smart whites...
Hu and LaGriffe are both interesting, as they say to e-mail them if you have questions or disagreements, or new facts. They have never gotten back to me or others when we did bring up this or similar material. Because they only want to "publish" favorable material about their own, and ignore the warts. That's why we'll win out in the end, again. The supreme arrogance that most non-whites seem to possess. It's a fatal flaw.[/QUOTE]I thank Roy Batty for making this post and ask that a moderator make this a sticky. If Roy posts more material, I most especially ask that this info be readily available.
2004-06-26 17:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Roy Batty]Walter, when I have time, I'll pull up some info I have - and the links - and post them. The structure of the Amerindians is the same as the Asians, it's just that their numbers - their average - is lower. The bulk of the Amerindian - and mestizo - IQ is in the visuospatial. They actually don't score as high as Whites on average in this area. But this area is what they use for the bulk of their "reasoning". This is what they use to think, rely on to solve problems. Whites use a mixture of different types of reasoning more than most other groups..[/QUOTE]
Roy, thanks for this.
Ditto EG's suggestion. We need to get all this IQ stuff in one place.
Walter
2004-06-26 23:51 | User Profile
OK guys, I'll dig up the material I have, and post it later in the week.
Ponce, thanks for compliment, but I think that there are a lot of smart, intelligent, talented and insightful people at OD, who tend to make better "contributions" to the board than I do. However, I am working on some things that I hope will help our cause down the line. It's just that they won't be ready to go for several months at best.
Yes, the IQ stuff is fascinating in some ways. As is some of the work on physiology which explains black dominance in sprinting (muscle tissue make-up) and black and brown advantages in boxing (thicker skulls, narrow rear jaw attachments - because of smaller brain size). White advantages in strength and endurance (muscle tissue make-up), Asian advantages in areas of gymnasitcs (flexibility) and so on.
There are a lot of smart whites out there. But a lot of intelligent people can be brainwashed with the rest of the sheeple - or will go along with the flow if they neither see nor hear anything to counter what is tossed their way and presented as the truth. I can't believe some of the crap I used to believe about the World Wars, the media and so on. I always had a dim view of blacks, but that's because one of my earlier memories is of being attacked by black youngsters when I was three years old and still living in Detroit. Then years later, pop packed up the truck and we moved to - not Beverly - L.A. - where it was more of the same with Mexicans. Even though I never thought much about IQ, I realized that on many levels, the black and brown folks were deficient. Never had too much trouble with the Asian kids. They weren't banding and attacking whites - they were busy studying and avoiding the hordes of mestizos that stalked the jr and sr high schools I went to.
Didn't have too much contact with jews until college, and then, holy Toledo, I started wondering if a fair portion of the "Academic Excellence" we see is due to cheating, nepotism, cronyism, and collusion with college officials, professors and testing associations. It was unbelievable. But it also made me aware of IQ. I tend to agree with a lot of findings by Lynn, Flynn, and so on. Sometimes even folks like Rushton have soft-pedaled things in order to sound less "racist", but I'll go into that later. Jensen has done great work, but he is half jewish, and he has relied on postive material concerning jews that he shouldn't have, including the one small study that said jewish IQ's averaged 117. I think that jews might be covering for themselves - for down the line - when (no "if" from me) the collapse hits, and people ask "Why are so many jews ... here ... and here... and doing this ... involved with that?". The jews can say it's their high IQ's - along with their "love for mankind":saddam:, rather than admit to the incredible nepotism and networking that seeks to exclude (especially) whites. Jews seek all riches, benefits, status, the best society could offer - and work to exclude as many others, especially whites, from the same. I guess they feel they can run off somewhere else if things toppled completely in the US and Europe. Not really. I think we're seeing the end game, in terms of global dominance, for this bunch. They can't maintain the system here and Europe is actually slowly coming around - worse is better, you'd better believe it. As to their homeland? Nukes, shmukes. Time and population is on the side of the Arab world.
When we have our 'uprising' in the US, a lot of (especially gullible and brainwashed) whites will be casualites. But most whites will make it through and we will go on. Hymie may find himself corraled, with no takers. He'll have to go it on his own. For the first time in centuries. Try and picture jews actually doing the "infrastructure" work, and everything else, in their own society. On second thought, they might be penned in eventually, but they'll try and find someone to be the shabbos goy. Picture a jew fixing his own plumbing...
The higher average IQ's - and broad range - are what will be one factor in whites picking up the pieces and moving on while the blacks and browns see their populations culled. No white charity to be found, but plenty of warfare, gang warfare, murder, crime in general, disease, starvation and animals waiting to help out and restore the populations to their natural levels. And that would be very quick indeed. And due to their lower overall IQ's and abilities.
The Chinese might make a move in Asia when they see whitey occupied, but they will also no doubt be worried about whites who no longer waste their time, effort, money (willingly and unwillingly) to help the "less fortunate".
Whites need to stop sharing the "gifts" we bring to the world with everyone. Imagine whites keeping medical, scientific, technological advances to themselves. The world would again be left in the dust. As it was for a 500 year period that was eventually derailed by jews and greedy white elitists lacking racial loyalty.
2004-06-27 00:14 | User Profile
I believe that the Jews are succeeding where the white man is failing due to the fact that they stick together and help each other.
They cooperate to a greater goal than that of the white man, the white man is everyone for himself where the Jews have a long goal plan in mind and cooperate as a unit in this endeavor.
What really bugs me is the fact that must Americans don't understand what a Zionist is and are not even aware of "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion". According to the Jews that's is not a real book and someone made it up, well, even if that was the case the Jews are following every word in that book to a letter.
2004-06-27 00:34 | User Profile
Absolutely right, Ponce.
The jews seek to circumvent white unity whenever it rears its head - tarring all groups as "racist-Nazi-skinhead-holocaust-denier-fiends whoseektokilljews". I believe in MacDonald's sentiments that their actions will result in whites becoming more racially aware, more defensive and aggressive as a group. It's already happening among white youngsters in urban schools across the US, never mind what we see happening in Europe (Ireland and Holland for instance) and the increasing concern and anger toward mestizo immigrants and non-white immigrants - and "native" blacks - in general.
I've always thought the protocols were written by a man (or men) who saw exactly what the jews had done before, and knew what they were up to, again, at the time. But they are accurate, whether real or "fake".
The jews have always over-reached. They've done it again. It's that arrogance. A type of arrogance you really don't see in whites for the most part. It's a self centered arrogance you see in abundance in non-whites, and it's been amplified by the way our society has been manipulated. Jews, other non-whites, are arrogant, cocky, aggressive, confident. They know - on some level, depending on the individual - that the decked is stacked in their favor. But it's really a house of cards, and the jews always, always try and stack too many cards. They and the traitorous white elitists who enable them, will take a tumble. Not that I think they will be eradicated. Things will collapse, whites will reconstitute their societies, and then it will all be attempted again. The question is how many lessons will be remembered by whites?
Jews work toward long range goals, but a major failing amongst them - and I even see this on another level in my work - is an absolute failure to see how any action they take could go wrong, or backfire. Confidence coupled with blindness, and the self-deception that MacDonald has so keenly noted.
2004-06-27 00:36 | User Profile
Whoever wrote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion understood Jews.
[QUOTE=Ponce]I believe that the Jews are succeeding where the white man is failing due to the fact that they stick together and help each other.
They cooperate to a greater goal than that of the white man, the white man is everyone for himself where the Jews have a long goal plan in mind and cooperate as a unit in this endeavor.
What really bugs me is the fact that must Americans don't understand what a Zionist is and are not even aware of "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion". According to the Jews that's is not a real book and someone made it up, well, even if that was the case the Jews are following every word in that book to a letter.[/QUOTE]
2004-06-27 00:38 | User Profile
This time around Jews should be shown the door and allowed to return to Israel, their alleged homeland, and those who refuse to leave be forced to.
[QUOTE=Roy Batty]Jews work toward long range goals, but a major failing amongst them - and I even see this on another level in my work - is an absolute failure to see how any action they take could go wrong, or backfire. Confidence coupled with blindness, and the self-deception that MacDonald has so keenly noted.[/QUOTE]
2004-06-27 02:26 | User Profile
No matter where the Jews are at their tentacles embraces the whole world, there might be only about 11 millions of those people but thanks to their influence, blackmailing tactics and outright bribes they are able to outperform anyone in this world.
The power of a Jew is only the power that you allowed him to have over you, however, most American don't know that they are misdirected and being made a fool off by the Jews, and they are stupid because they are ignorant to the true fact of the Jews.,,,,,,, Jews = Zionists
Like I stated before, the majority of Americans only care about their TV and their six pack of beer and as long as they have that they feel "secure". Unless things change in the near future they will be in for a rude awakening.
By the way guys, when I use terms like "we whites," and so on, I don't mean it in the same sense that many of you do,,,,,,, I say it as a white Cuban that dislike Jews.
I don't dislike Jews for being Jews but for the way and what they do as Jews.
"When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark",,,,,, by Ponce.
2004-06-27 02:40 | User Profile
Ponce, I'd bet my eye teeth that there are at least twice as many jews in the US (and probably the world) as is "publicized" by the jewish press, by the jewish encyclopedia, and other sources that dole out the numbers of jews in the world. Everyone goes to jewish sources, because there seem to be no others keeping track. The population numbers jews supply are as bogus as the holocaust(tm) numbers rammed down everyone's throats.
Keeping their real numbers hidden is an advantage in many ways. They can say look at how smart we are ... there's so many of us in fine schools, as top musicians, as scientists and on and on. (Remove the nepotism, cronyism, tribalism, intellectual theft and such from the equation in various fields, and it would be interesting) Of course, there are other more insidious reasons for hiding numbers as well, but that isn't the point of a thread on .... IQ :).
Look at the numbers in schools (who identify as jews) in the Ivy League and elsewhere, look at the breakdowns in cities. In the US and Europe. Keep in mind in the early part of the 20th century, jewish leaders told their people not to identify themselves in any form of census, as they didn't want the true numbers (of their infestation) known. I doubt if anything has changed.
If they claim 16 million, there are probably 30 million or more. Still not a huge number, but larger than the populations of many countries. Even 16 million is more than many European nations. But no one points that out. They use their "minority" number as yet another shield.
2004-06-27 04:38 | User Profile
Once again you are right, that's one reason as to why the majority of them changed their name in order to hide the fact that they are Jews.
I say this to you, with a name like Ponce de Leon I assure you that I am not a Jew.
I talk about the Jews here, and I stand with my sign in a corner in the big town and I have another sign in the front of my house,,,,,,and yet,,,,, I am doing nothing,,,,,,, what can I (we) do in order to fight the Jews?
I mean, if the Palestinians were to be right next to us, like in Mexico or Canada, I would be the first one to join them,,,,"De Oppresso Liber"
2004-06-27 04:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Valley Forge]This time around Jews should be shown the door and allowed to return to Israel, their alleged homeland, and those who refuse to leave be forced to.[/QUOTE]
Ditto.
2004-06-30 07:51 | User Profile
"I grew up next to two reservations, and had a number of Indian classmates.
They definitely were NOT good at either reading or math, and I suppose that's mostly verbal reasoning.
But man were they ever good as a group at art (they could mostly draw beautifully) and other of the applied arts. The Indian boys were into shop, mostly, and they worshipped their cars and motorcycles. And they were great mechanics, carpenters. The girls tended to like to sew stuff.
Of course, they tended to drink so much at such an young age that most of them never amounted to much. But I have to suspect that the Indians had very high spatial-visual IQs."
Spent two years on a reservation when I was in my 20s. Really liked the Indians I got to know. To me they were HONEST, KIND, DIRECT and HELPFUL. They had a sense of humor and were fun to hunt and fish with, loved guns ( as I do ) and generally were easy to be with.
However Booze was a terrible curse to the tribe. They also were in the main LAZY, mostly late for anything, neglectful of their pets, children, homes and vehicles.
As to IQ, one summer while I was there a Public Health Department supported Medical Student who now is a retinal surgeon was assigned to the Hospital for a summer. He had been trained to give IQ tests to 3 year old children ( One on One). The student tested every Indian child on the reservation between the age of 2.5 years and 3.5 years. The IQ mean was under 80 something like 76. I remember that officials made the claim that the tests were culturally biased and not reliable at such a young age. Perhaps they were correct but white kids tested out around mean IQ of 100 on the same test at the same age. The test consisted of some drawing of simple shapes and identifying pictures. The kids thought it was a game and seemed to enjoy taking it.
That fall my wife taught school for that semester and then the next semester. She was taking a year's break from her Ph.D. work at an Ivy League University ( she was beginning to write her thesis ) on the Physical Chemistry of Muscle fibers. He mother had been a supervisor of early childhood in the New York public school system and insisted the my future wife obtain the credits to teach early childhood subjects ( obtain a teaching certificate ) as well as get her degree in Physiology. Given that she had a teaching certificate in early childhood teaching she got a job teaching at the Indian school.
Get this! There was one Kindergarten. There was one class of first grade. But there were TWO classes of PRE-FIRST. I had never heard of pre-first. The kids were so retarded that enough kids were present to fill two classes. I recall stories of 9 and 10 year old children who had been in pre-first for 2 and 3 years. These children could not learn their ABCs.
My wife and I occasionally talk about that year and the children. I got to meet them as she used a ploy to keep them in line. No threats of violence were needed. She told them that if they were REALLY GOOD she would have her husband bring her Poodle Dog to meet the class. I did just that a number of times to the kids delight. The Poodle was just out of being a puppy and was frisky. The dog would run around the room and have as much fun as the kids. We wonder what happened to some of them. They probably are grandparents by now bringing forth a flood of low IQ drones into the world.
2004-06-30 08:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Atlantin] Spent two years on a reservation when I was in my 20s. Really liked the Indians I got to know. To me they were HONEST, KIND, DIRECT and HELPFUL. They had a sense of humor and were fun to hunt and fish with, loved guns ( as I do ) and generally were easy to be with. [snip][/QUOTE]
Of course, IQ doesn't solidify statistically speaking until after puberty sometime, so testing three year olds probably doesn't mean much. But you make a good point - my experience with the Indians is that they just didn't have it on the ball as far as abstract problem solving was concerned. No doubt verbal intelligence is low, but I would be surprised in spatial perceptions weren't offsettingly high in them.
It's interesting to compare them with Negroes, who are, I would think, significantly less intelligent on average than Indians. Negroes are also characterized by very, very low impulse control. Stimulus - response. That's what blacks all about, and is the thing that makes them so bloody unpleasant to live with. I always assumed that this high emotionality was somehow a function of their low intelligence - I imagined that they lacked a sort of "rational override" system that higher IQ makes possible. But interestingly, Indians aren't like that. They always seemed to me to be on average much more emotionally reserved than blacks. The cliche about the taciturn Indian has grounding in reality (like most cliches, I suppose). So here we have Indians with low IQ's but with higher impulse control, which would seem to indicate that IQ and impulse control aren't necessary related.
Right?
Roy Batty, please set us straight on this.
I always liked the Indians, too. I share your feelings on that. Great bunch of guys, when they're sober. But that is tragically altogether too rare.
I had an Indian buddy when I was a kid who drew his own comic strip, called "Eddy the Eagle" or something. I thought the art work was great, but maybe a professional like Roy would see it differently. The storylines were pretty good, too. All very funny stuff. He was hilarious, in fact. At least I thought so. I sure hope he didn't wind up in the bottom of some bottle.
Walter
2004-07-02 16:00 | User Profile
...how many of you had your IQ tested. I did some tests about year ago. Different tests give results ranging 129-134.
(sorry about possible misspellings, I'm enjoying the start of weekend by drinking beer and vodka, and using computer) :thumbsup:
2004-07-03 05:30 | User Profile
Here's a couple of sources that have very interesting material and links on IQ - I'll post the rest over the weekend. Taking a quick break from a horrible last minute load of work that needs to be finished.
Of course, some of the material might be at odds with other material on the very same site, but IQ testing is an inexact science. There is no way to measure all facets of intelligence or cognitive abilities. Someone may have an IQ of 150, but cannot perform some cognitive feats that a guy with an IQ of 115 might be able to do with ease. It isn't just talent, it's that we aren't dealing with machines so to speak.
By the way, on the Amerindians and art, I should clarify that I wasn't denigrating anyone's ability. You could very well have someone with talent pop out of the middle of a reservation. I was commenting on how it seems that with the exception of whites, most non-whites produce work that seems very similar to each other's work. Especially E. Asians. 99% of them seem to have a similar "style", in that myself and others can pick out work that has been drawn or painted (traditional or digital) by E. Asians almost 100% of the time without looking at the name of the artist. I noticed this even while in HS among the Asians, and among the "Mexicans" as the mestizos seemed to have a certain style. Not all of them of course, maybe it depends on the level of white blood in their case ... Yes, Amerindian intelligence is centered in the visuospatial, so if they focus on activities that can be done with these abilities, they can "get through". But their scores are not high enough on average for them to be able to function at a high level in white societies.
[url="http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/IQ"]http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/IQ[/url] - This site has a lot of interesting items - and covers topics other than IQ. This article deals specifically with Amerindian intelligence: [url="http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/miller-evolution-iq?embedded=yes&cumulative_category_title=IQ&cumulative_category_id=IQ"]http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/miller-evolution-iq?embedded=yes&cumulative_category_title=IQ&cumulative_category_id=IQ[/url]
Good articles on IQ, eugenics, dysgenics: [url="http://neoeugenics.home.comcast.net/"]http://neoeugenics.home.comcast.net/[/url]
Read this book review, where the reviewer not only comments on the views held by the Chinese author, he points out the hypocrisy leveled at whites who achieve - and how whites have succeeded despite not using the nepotism, cronyism, tribalism, and behind the scenes chicanery that explains some of the success of the Chinese, and most of the success of the jews. Ah, yes, we are indeed headed for a time where whites will be forced (again) to think as a racial group, no doubt about it ...
2004-07-06 03:50 | User Profile
Roy, something for us all to consider. True raw intelligence, true creativity, true advancements.. We still function at a level 100 years old. The groundbreaking scientists are being killed at an alarming level. Take a look into the death of this man [url]http://www.pureenergysystems.com/obituaries/2004/EugeneMallove/[/url]
and I don't know how old u r, but I remember when the scientists developed grass that would only grow to 2 inches and stop. It was back in the early 80's. Well guess what happenned to that. Murder,Money Lobbying put an end to that, never heard from it again. Not only that, but it was well over 50 years ago that a car could go 200 miles per gallon .. There's also a cure for cancer, but you won't ever get a hold of it. The control people of this world do what they want.. stop thinking you have any participation in this at all.. that's the most important step.
2004-07-07 16:26 | User Profile
Yeah, still have more info to compile and post here, trying to get it together and make time.
Yes, Exelsis, there are bad things that happen to some innovators, inventors, discoverers. Some people laugh, call it conspiracy junk, but if one takes the time to do a little fishing, you'll see that many of the stories are true. In some cases it has to do with money, others with vanity. I cited the incident I witnessed at UCLA regarding the outright theft of a man's groundbreaking research by a couple of jewish hacks. I have little doubt that people like this would conspire to murder in order to gain credit - or stop something in its tracks. Of course, it isn't only jews. Just those with the evil mentality required to act in this fashion.
Non-sequiter time: Hey, what happened to Franco? Was he booted while I was away?
2004-07-07 20:20 | User Profile
Roy,
Check out this thread:[url]http://forums.originaldissent.com/showthread.php?t=14058[/url]
I have to say that I miss Franco and all the others who have left.
2004-07-09 02:11 | User Profile
Thanks for the heads-up Blonde Knight. I guess I "just missed him" by a few days when I staggered back to OD. In his "kooky" and in-your-face way, Franco was amusing. But the word needs to get out to those not firing off their opinions at OD - we already know the root source of many of our people's woes.
2004-07-09 02:24 | User Profile
... and one more thing - for Atlantin and anyone else who found a goof in an earlier post! I mentioned a book review - but didn't post the link. I did post the link to the main site above my remarks, but didn't post the link to the page with the review and commentary: [url]http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/wof.htm[/url]
Interesting info on white "success" - and contrasting that success with jewish and Chinese modes of operation. I think that whites are the only group of people that can reach ultra-high level success without relying on the group tactics that the jews and Asians always employ. Indeed, in the end, their success is based on white civilization. If the E. Asians had no contact with whites, they would be living in feudal states. If the jews had no contact with the white West, they'd be ripping people off in the bazaars of the Middle East, or leaching off more primitive societies in the darker places on the globe, playing the game with third world rubes.
2004-07-10 03:41 | User Profile
I read that link Roy, and I appreciate the spirit in which you posted it here, in this wasteland of dead white thought. It is comical the cockiness of these Chinese idiots, morons that they are, sub-level and only recently braggart from the Jew donations they received with the approval of Clinton. Fact is, Clinton sold all to China, without regard, and the differences in technology between 1999 and now aren't that great. History is irrelevant. The FACT that these populations of non-Whites are not Equal to us no longer matters. Its Sad. But True. The understanding of this is abhorrent. The tools of destruction and mutation have been given across the globe to eviil men. I say men, because the primitive people who are the recipients of this power to destroy are still men-ruled societies. That is one of their strengths. AT THIS POINT, IT'S GLOBAL. The United States has no real power. And if it does, trust me, it's not the UNited States at all. I've given up. I am a regular listener of Patriot AM radio and shortwave and all that goes with it.. it's hard to hear that your vote means nothing. It's even harder to accept the fact that THE GOVERNMENT is a mechanization beyond our control. When the Mammonists ( International banking gluttons ) married the US politicians now 91 years ago in 1913, the writing was on the wall .. it's over.. I laugh in sorrow do hard when people wonder why gas costs 2.00 The reason is that the so-called dollar is a worthless piece of paper. The gas actually has value. In reality, spending 2.00 for a gallon of gas is like getting a commodity for nothing. The sad fact is that Americans still live by this slavery.
look at this [url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0912986212/102-6932761-1446559?v=glance[/url]
2004-07-10 22:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Exelsis_Deo]I laugh in sorrow do hard when people wonder why gas costs 2.00 The reason is that the so-called dollar is a worthless piece of paper. The gas actually has value. In reality, spending 2.00 for a gallon of gas is like getting a commodity for nothing. The sad fact is that Americans still live by this slavery.[/QUOTE] $2 a gallon? Id die to live in a country that sells Petrol at those prices. In Britain its about $7.2 a gallon. Can you believe that?
[url="http://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/fuel/"]http://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/fuel/[/url]
2004-07-13 00:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Roy Batty]. They can say look at how smart we are ... there's so many of us in fine schools, as top musicians, as scientists and on and on.[/QUOTE]
But they don't.
When thinking of Jews don't think in terms of value systems....like "smart=good" or "dumb=bad".
Think in terms of strategic value. What benefit is it to the Jews to make it widely known that they are, and have been all along.....the Master Race?
I am of the belief that Jews are of much higher intellect than us. After all, they have outmaneovered us with ease, risen to the top and became our covert masters. Now think about what is of strategic value to us. I have found that exposing the fact that they are the master race has helped me enlighten many former sheep. Don't take the wind out of my sails, Roy. Let's give credit and blame where it's due, the Jews deserve it.
Once you have established Jewish intellect it is a step towards showing the stategic value of gentile race-mixing;
Jews 117 IQ Whites 102 Black/Brown 85
Does it not make sense that averaging second place and third place only strengthens those in first place?
After all the anti-German "master race" drivel the Jews have spewed it would be rather poor strategy for them to come out and say "hey, we are the master race".