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2004-06-24 15:39 | User Profile
[B]V[/B] [B]ONE GOD and Jihad -- Forensics of Sign-use in the War on Christ[/B]
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/24/international/middleeast/24BEHE.html?pagewanted=print&position=[/url]
NEW YORK TIMES getting the expertââ¬â¢s analysis.
June 24, 2004 REACTION Assessing a Gruesome Toll After a Rash of Beheadings By DANIEL J. WAKIN
[B]V [/B]iolent extremists acting in the name of Islam have seemingly adopted a gruesome tactic against the United States and its allies in the recent rash of incidents in which attackers have beheaded hostages and then raced to disseminate the gory images.
These militants see such acts as the ultimate symbols of power over an enemy ââ¬â horrific and utterly unambiguous examples of ruthlessness ââ¬â scholars and analysts of the Middle East say.
"For these extremists, it represents not just the beheading of one American, but it is the beheading of America," said Dr. Alan Godlas, an associate professor of Islamic studies at the University of Georgia. "The kind of gut reaction that Americans have, that all people have when they see it, this is what the militants want."
ââ¬Â¦.The killings also represent a significant departure from the past taking of foreign hostages in the Middle East. In Lebanon in the 1980's, Westerners grew accustomed to seeing hostages stumbling into the daylight after years of negotiations and concessions, although several hostages were killed. The main hostage takers then were members of the Islamic militant group Hezbollah.
ââ¬Â¦.Ed Blanch, a journalist who cove red the hostage-taking in Labanon and who is now a Beirut-based analyst for Janeââ¬â¢s Information Group (said) ââ¬ÅWhat has changed is that the Arab world, the Muslim world, the third world, now has access this communication.
He said the recentr videotapes are a refinement of the videos of suicide bombers in Israel, which were made before the attacks and designed for release after them.
ââ¬Â¦Mr. Blanche said he believed that the killers of the American contractor Paul M. Johnson Jr. in Saudi Arabia were following the tactics of those in Iraq who carried out the murder of Nicholas Berg, another American. He said the beheading of Daniel Pearl, the Wall Street Journal reporter killed in Pakistan, was probably not part of the pattern.
[B]Analysis and Comment (prepared previous evening, 6.23.04)[/B]
ONE GOD and Jihad -- Forensics of Sign-Use in the War on Terrorcide
The name of the group taking credit for the beheading of Nick Berg and Kim Sun-il is reported as ââ¬ÅMonotheism and Jihadââ¬Â. The Timesââ¬â¢ report used an Arabic transliteration (Jamaal al-Tawhid), rather than its English version favored by Yahoo leads. As if to credit barbaric savages with philosophical concepts motivating political assassinations might strain credulity. Better preserve that foreign mother-tongue flavor for the rough stuff.. (The media is totally racist.) <<Hours later, the United States launched an airstrike in Fallujah on what the U.S. military said was a safehouse used by followers of the country's most-wanted terrorist: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian whose Monotheism and Jihad movement was believed behind the beheading of the hostage, Kim Sun-il>>.
. However, ââ¬Åmonotheismââ¬Â IS a favorite term in Jewish philosophy of religion. Jewish scholars (some) claim historical credit for the idea, on the basis of the antiquity of the first five books of the Bible traditionally attributed to Moses. From there, through Greek philosophy ââ¬â Platoââ¬â¢s Idea of The Good, and Forms of Necessity in Truth (Augustine), plus Aristotleââ¬â¢s Uncaused Cause (elaborated in the middle ages by Aquinas). Then, in modern philosophy, emerging at the purely intellectual level in post-Kantian Absolute Idealism (Hegel, Bradley). A solid history of ideas is threaded by the token, if not the text, of ââ¬Åmonotheismââ¬Â. In calling themselves ââ¬ÅMonotheism and Jihadââ¬Â, the alleged group taking responsibility for the grotesque atrocities thus demonstrate their absolute categorical religious perversion, the demonic reversal of basis of Western culture. Its highest, most sacred term for all that is holy on earth, and beyond ââ¬â used for ââ¬ÅJihadââ¬Â: the Muslim term for all-out religious war.
Thus, the name ââ¬ÅMonotheism and Jihadââ¬Â, on its face, can only be used by those so perverted, and twisted, that they would use Western civilizationââ¬â¢s own term for their abominable Allah-worship to attack it in the name of -- in effect, imposing THEIR God on US by terrorist killings.
In other words, the acts of the organization or group by this name provides unchallengeable evidence ââ¬â pieces de resistance -- proving common threat from an identified, single terrorist enemy ââ¬â al Zarquawi, this time ââ¬â terrorizing us for what we are, through what we believe in, in the most heinous way possible. An act of ultimate enmity..
But ââ¬Â¦ What if it is a fake organization or group? It was not heard of until quite recently, though al Zarquari is now credited with ââ¬Åmastermindingââ¬Â an entire network responsible for suicide bombs, other attacks, coordinating logistics, etc.. US planes targeted and bombed ââ¬Åsafehousesââ¬Â in Fallujah, where according to ââ¬Åmultiple credible sources of intelligence,ââ¬Â his followers were ââ¬â decimating a residential area, and shattering the tenuous political-social infra-structures begun by Muhammad Latif (cf. J. Gettleman, ââ¬ÅThe Re-Baathification of Fallujaââ¬Â, New York Times Magazine, 6.20.04).
The bombing of Falluja was connected, in time, to the beheading of Kim Sun-il, initiated within a few hours later as if in swift retaliation. In reality, events in Baghdad, namely, handing over the government to Prime Minister Allawi a week away overshadowed everything else. So a passionate letter is to him from al-Zarqawi avowing permanent threat of assassination for having betrayed Iraq to the Americans, to which Allawi is quoted as responding: ââ¬ÅHe smiled; said he expected it; said the threat wasnââ¬â¢t against him, only, but to all the Iraqi people.ââ¬Â But before he get selected PMwas appointed, there wasnââ¬â¢t any official who could refer ââ¬Åthe Iraqi peopleââ¬Â; it didnââ¬â¢t exist as designation of any entity, except in the media of communication. And if the Shiââ¬â¢ites donââ¬â¢t go along with the interim constitution, it still wonââ¬â¢t after June 30. But after that U.S. forces wonââ¬â¢t have to be reported doing the killing. That can be turned over to mercs, the way it was in Central America in the ââ¬Ë80ââ¬â¢s. Negroponte is over there running the show.now, even. Revenants of Reaganism death squads.
The body of Kim Sun-il connected, in space, the two cities, as it was found on the road between Falluja and Baghdad. This is another forensic element. It had to have been designed; calculated for symbolic effect.
Coinciding in time, in space, on the borderlines: ultimate perversions, massive punishments in response to (claimed) ultimate perversions. Sanity. Humanity. Christianity. AMERICA. For the same links now making the name ââ¬Åal Zarquawiââ¬Â enemy of ââ¬Åthe people of Iraqââ¬Â make him enemy of ââ¬Åthe people of Americaââ¬Â, announced by Attny. Gen. Ashcroft and FBI director Mueller to have threatened a mall in Columbus, Ohio, and threatening other symbolic targets this summer. Cited ââ¬Åmultiple credible sourcesââ¬Â in support of dire warnings ââ¬Åthey are going to hit us hardââ¬Â. 7 cards with evil looking Arab heads on them were shown. But one official remarked that the evidence they went on could have been produced by one guy with a fax machine, in other words, faked. They popped off, again, on the basis of hyped-up ââ¬Åevidenceââ¬Â. But whatââ¬â¢s done canââ¬â¢t be undone, so now there are multiple incredible non-evidences piling up in the name of Monotheism.
This means ââ¬ÅOne Godââ¬Â, of course; so the alternative reading of the name of The Enemies of The Real One True God (=American, for neocoons) is ââ¬ÅOne God and Jihadââ¬Â ââ¬â a neat little tricky dick-like rhyme latent in the geniusââ¬â¢s work bringing off these scenarios.
It all fits together ââ¬Åfrom belowââ¬Â, through (mostly) unconscious fantasies associated with tokens of the signs used in group communication.. Death imagery relentlessly assaults any intimation of purity, escape, challenge. There are many difficulties with the word ââ¬Åmonotheismââ¬Â, itself, for instance, beginning with the historical facts about the Bibleââ¬â¢s authorship and the debt its worldview owed to Sumeria (Biblical Assyria)
. The great Greek-Christian philosophical tradition has been the story of a particular self-consciousness brought to spiritual, intellectual and scientific fruition ââ¬â with ââ¬ÅGodââ¬Â-talk increasingly individualized by free will. (Even for those who think otherwise, but certainly OK, maybe wondrous, when genuine.).
2004-06-24 16:24 | User Profile
A 3 and a 5 year old Palestinians kids get shot by the "brave" IDF and nothing happens but kill an American and a Korean and it's the end of the world.
The two Palestinians kids did not "invaded" anther country but the invaders of their land killed them just like the Americans are doing in Iraq.
Americans get out of Iraq, Jews get out of Palestine,,,,,,,neither of you belong there and for as long as you stay there you will not find peace but only death.
All those braves soldiers that are giving their lives in Iraq in the name of "freedom" and all those billions being wasted in a stupid war could be invested right here in the USA, we have many of our own people living in the streets and more every day thanks to a receding economy.
And stop giving to the state of Israel all those billions of dollars and all that equipment in order to kill the defenseless Palestinian people.........
"When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark",,,,,,by Ponce
2004-06-25 04:42 | User Profile
Hee-bee-geebies... total emotionalism about what...is...there in the Middle East, except, what does it get us or anyone?
Apaches...lets replace Apaches with Americans, Jews, Palestinians (hypothetically)...used to to take enemies, string them up by their ankles after drilling fine holes in their skulls, and hang them gagged over a fire...for entertainment, and watch the brains bubble out of their heads until dead... (they didn't have t.v.)
They felt it got them a lot, they enjoyed it, both braves and the females. American or anglo-troops used to say they'd prefer to die in battle than to be turned over once captured, to American Indian females. The braves had no time for prisoners, often. What does this get anyone?
I wrote Iraq would be an imprudent war, in my opinion, prior to our going there. But at the time the "jury was out". Even Sharon knows settlements should be dismantled, and tries to get it done. But it's sort of, isn't it...when the Savage distance of the world on both sides--comes close--like saying, well, let's let the Americans have Arizona, or let the Apaches, have Arizona: to each respective side.
At that time there was no sufficient civil sensibility to allow for a U.N., and impotent, and money sucking as it is...isn't it time for a U.N. presence in the Middle East? Time for the U.N. to take a little Viagra? If not, then we should still, not leave Iraq now...to become a seedbed of terrorist activity in that aftermath of our subsequent withdrawl. Jews need to dismantle settlements. Awful as that would seem to me if I was pioneering therein. If it's good enough for Sharon, why not for Israel? This sometimes STUPID "age of equality" hurts more people than it often helps. Doesn't it? Of course sometimes the converse it true. But in this case I'd say the former. Aren't there enough billions being sent to Israel, to compensate those who need to dismantle. I'd pay them, just for the balls they had in so doing.
The Apaches, unfortunately for them (well compensated today) were about 6,000 years behind the rest of civilization, at the time they lost their lands. The Palestinians are not...they're, for all their own faults, just about where the rest of us are at. I feel for Jews, I feel for them, as well. What normal, feeling person, doesn't? -?- So then, who has the balls, to stand within the Question...under G-d. I'd like to think I do, but must also admit I'm not qualified regarding this issue, either by education, or battle. So it's just, in yet free America, my opinion...
2004-06-25 08:16 | User Profile
Hey, Spidey! geat stuff! you'ld be surprised how many [B]don't[/B] seem to agree with these obvious little things, though. You make it all worthwhile.
How did you get the inside dope on those great Apache visuals? That Geronimo! Now there's a dude the West bank needs to see in action! -- doing that "drilling fine holes in their skull" while hanging them upside down!
But while that is certainly suggestive and inventive, that Abu Graib stuff has got something going for it, too. Pile 'em up, fffffffffff*ck 'em in the *** and throw the bowels to cannibals.
You see, what you do is, you let people who support bush and the sharonazim know all they've got is the jew-g-d's luv standing between them and Lynndie England. causes 6,000 sleepless nights.
Yes, good thinking in broad terms, though. I approve putting Wazreal under the U.N., too, where towelhead Apaches can get to them every day. Aboo Jaroozalum... let 'em use christee dispose for human shields -- like those Depends thingees? Napkins for West Bank cannibals, watching those brains bubbling out of their heads ontil dead. -- WE get t.v.! hoo hoo hoo hoo
you can see why there is a linder, right td?
PS I take strong exception to that cheap "pure emotionalism" smear. Please cite instances. I never post when I am in an emotional state, and never present anything except reasoned opinion. Why don't you say who you are and how you found this board?
2004-06-27 00:38 | User Profile
I like to say to people who wonder, I'm a failure, let me enjoy it. I'm not sufficiently educated; just not dumb enough, not to stand on the heads, shoulders, (faces and throats if necessary) of those who afford me a better view. Although I'm polite. More than polite, I prefer my superiors, so I read a little. Your ego ain't "bad" in my opinion "TA", but you do at least to me sound a bit emotional. You're human. We all are. "Hate" is the flip side of the same coin, "love". I don't give a flipping shit in the bowl about the so-called "religious" aspects of the Middle East, that's pseudo, to me. I care about evolution broadly speaking, and personally, of all parties, yours, the Arabs, whom I don't tend to naturally like (so maybe they have something to teach me), and the Jews, whom I do tend to naturally like, so there may be something I tend to overlook. BOTH.
But to my tastes, you are a little too imbalanced (just my opinion, TA) probably for your own good. It just means if I put on my warrior hat, I'm informed about how to survive, or endure, or prevail against you.
As for my identity, I believe if you've got it, why not flaunt it? Does it suffice to say then in remaining anonymous, I don't got it. Or should I spell it out for you, or did I just do that. Let me enjoy being a failure, let me enjoy being anonymous. That's polite. As for balance, in this world, absolute balance is NOT possible, yet approximate balance is requisite... (until G-d changes the world if he ever remembers us), I like to go from there... if I can. Sometimes chaos overwhelms us, and me. Then order comes out of that. BOTH.
As for us, & G-d, since he's responsible too, he's probably like us... thank God for the gift of memory/and for the gift of the loss of memory... I don't want to be the one to wake him up, TexasAnarch, I'll leave that to you and in fairness not recommend it.
2004-06-27 03:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Spiderman]..the so-called "religious" aspects of the Middle East, that's pseudo, to me. I care about evolution broadly speaking, and personally, of all parties, yours, the Arabs, whom I don't tend to naturally like (so maybe they have something to teach me), and the Jews, whom I do tend to naturally like, so there may be something I tend to overlook. BOTH. [B]1[/B]
But to my tastes, you are a little too imbalanced (just my opinion, TA) probably for your own good. It just means if I put on my warrior hat, I'm informed about how to survive, or endure, or prevail against you.[B] 2[/B]
...let me enjoy being anonymous. [B]3.[/B] That's polite. As for balance, in this world, absolute balance is NOT possible, yet approximate balance is requisite... (until G-d changes [B]4. [/B] Then order comes out of that. BOTH. [B]4. [/B]
not recommend it. [B]5. [/B] [/QUOTE]
"G-d" doesn't refer to anything; it is a mutuilated (castration allusion: Freud) token facsimile of the English word "God", often used by Jews to hint that the real name is reserved for Talmudists and certain rabiis to know and call upon. I use it in the post title to signify this well-understood perversion of Christian communication is, in the rash of beheadings, aimed directly at America.
You/ve heard of "cutting off your nose to spite your face'? "destroying a city in order to save it"? Well, this onr's "cutting off your head to save your body", and the Jews, not the Arabs, have got America doing it to itself.
3.. You know too much. Sometimes when the memory block wears off -- I appreciate your concern for MY mental health, though.
You can survive and endure by not fighting, like the old Chinese proverb has it. That's the way I make out. It's like straddling BOTH sides of the edge of a moebius strip, if you can dig that; each side is a one sided mirror facing nowhere. That's clear isn't it? I resent being labelled "unbalanced." Just because you see both sides doesn't mean they are both right; in fact, when the psychological opposites get to the level of textual self-contradiction ("war on terror = war on inner state of anxiety, displaced outward" - Freud) both cannot be right, so you have to choose. For all time . (Forvever: - if you can make any sense out of that word one of these times you call yourself "remembering".)
There are sacred places on earth, in that region, as in Arizona, that one just doesn't mess with unless they are a class "A" fool, such as G.J. W. Bush & family, and Geronimo grave robbers. It doesn't have anything to do with anything you might think or are.
2004-06-27 03:30 | User Profile
Don't look at this. Or do. You do. That's good. You're pretty strong. I see you "there"... without too much effort. I visualize people there, anyway. Why not-?- With you, not too much effort. I pick up the vibes quick. You entered the arena that matters, most things aren't there, so it's a compliment. YOU makes things worthwhile. But anyone reading this should read your post above. I usually don't post often, I didn't mean to respond so quickly, but I have no date, on a Saturday night. No, I don't want to date you... perhaps the wrong gender i.e. male. Ladies are nice for us guys. They are more expert at the personal, and so dangerous about the universal, since they mostly dream about that... G-d's joke and plan, no doubt... Ha-Ha-Ha... just laughing so as to be in conformance with the divine Order, even while he's dreaming... too?
2004-06-27 05:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Spiderman]Don't look at this. Or do. You do. That's good. You're pretty strong. I see you "there"... without too much effort. I visualize people there, anyway. Why not-?- With you, not too much effort. I pick up the vibes quick. You entered the arena that matters, most things aren't there, so it's a compliment. YOU makes things worthwhile. But anyone reading this should read your post above. I usually don't post often, I didn't mean to respond so quickly, but I have no date, on a Saturday night. No, I don't want to date you... perhaps the wrong gender i.e. male. Ladies are nice for us guys. They are more expert at the personal, and so dangerous about the universal, since they mostly dream about that... G-d's joke and plan, no doubt... Ha-Ha-Ha... just laughing so as to be in conformance with the divine Order, even while he's dreaming... too?[/QUOTE]
Hey! check over to neocon watch. remember, IF THERE HAD BEEN EVEN 11 GOOD MEN, SODOM AND GOMORRAH MIGHT HAVE BEEN SAVED. Not to mention Lot's wife. We'll win if we stay together. In diversity is strength.
2004-07-01 18:02 | User Profile
Like I said TexasAnarch I like you from the vibes... I intuit if there is a sleeping and/or conscious G-d, he too, FEELS the vibes. He's responsible, too. He took a chance. If you don't take a chance, you don't have a chance. What if-?-I create others...I hope they're friends etc. but do I even know? Sure they're one with me, at the level of essence or origin, but they ain't me too. Wow. That's what "others" means. SHOULD I take a chance? What if-?-I build a rock so big, I can't lift it? But I'm G-d, can't I do that? Then am I G-d if I can't lift it? Do I care? Do I die? If dying (sort of) is what they do? Are they better than I? Do I create what's better than me, too? Do I care about that? What do I WANT? Buddies, girlfriends? This is all internal, why am I making it External... i.e. a world? Do I know, aren't I omniscient? Am I bored with me? What about those "jews" who saw ME once? What are they up to today, what do their rabbis, say? I know their good rabbis... What about the Xtians, who are more kind, but at the same time also MORE severe, with this Armagedon "wish" or thing...? The BIBLE old, AND new, is only a footstool, for my sweet precious "selves", really to get a better view. I'm G-d, what are you nuts...I ALSO love. You think it's an exercise in sado-masochism... why do you PROFANE me thus? I know I've got to do something... I will... but don't wait... if you're me, too, try... Or I'll do it. It will be good if I do it, it's not a threat... but I need help too...
2004-07-03 02:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Spiderman] I'm G-d, what are you nuts.... Or I'll do it. It will be good if I do it, it's not a threat... but I need help too...[/QUOTE]
"Nuts" is what the NYPost called Saddam Hussein. Page 1 today. Naturally, I took it to be Murdoch's castration complex, speaking up for America's. Gotta see him reduced to their level, since he's obviously such a superior specimen, as a man. Don't you agree?
Didn't I tell you I hate G-d? - and G-desses. If you need help, call Dr. Phil, or dial President Saddam Hussein. And please don't communicate about yourself on this board, whatever vibes you dig or don't dig. That is not what it is for.
There is too much to do, objectively.
2004-07-03 14:34 | User Profile
I'm not getting a 'last' word, because after you post next, (assuming you do), I won't. Yes. Be objective? Read Hemingway's allegedly bad novel, Across The River And Into The Trees. Not that bad. If I recall the protagonist, who the story is about, is Colonel Cantwell. I.E. Can'tWell. (Or for the religious, Cant-well.) Don't you get it, there's a flip side to every coin. If you "hate" as you say so-called "G-d", you also love him. If poor ol'dumb'G-d or G-dess, or God, or Dog (god backward) can't be "objective"-?-, can anyone? You've (perhaps admirably for now) set up "objective" as your Ideal. There's no such animal. That's the "objective" point. [But Ideals are good, as we need to set them up...PHYSICALLY... we need to.] Good luck, but I like your vibes. Much wuv, and kisses... and again you're probably right, 2 dimensional boards, may not be for the likes of this... I hear'ya... Stay "objective". Take some rational action, if possible. For best results, remember if the rational doesn't take into account the reality of the irrational too, and contain an element of it... it's NOT rational. Good luck, and of course should you fail (since it's the probability) I disavow all knowledge of your "actions". They may have just been "motion"? (Humor... come on, tickle-tickle?) Tickle-tickle-tickle? Tickle? I apologize in advance, and retroactively, not to mention the present.
2004-07-03 15:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Spiderman] there's a flip side to every coin. If you "hate" as you say so-called "G-d", (1) you also love him (2). If poor ol'dumb'G-d or G-dess, or God, or Dog (god backward) can't be "objective"-?-, can anyone?(3) [/QUOTE]
"G-d" doesn't spell anything, so when I say I "hate G-d", I mean I hate the use of that particular sign (I deal in sign-uses as coin), which, not standing for anything, is taken by idiots to stand for something they mean, or mean you to mean, by it, which is a hateful thing to do. (You get the reverse side of the coin by flipping the token over on its other side -- it is a particular mental act with sign use requiring knowledge of the distinction of text and token therein to carry out, which you don't have and I do. If you want to learn, send a wad of the folding kind, few k's to start with, more later if you can be helped, otherwise,,,treacle along.)
If you mean God the Father, yes.
yes. (no one at your level, of course)