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Hell Freezes Over: The Irony of Who's Emulating OD

Thread ID: 14172 | Posts: 7 | Started: 2004-06-14

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PaleoconAvatar [OP]

2004-06-14 03:47 | User Profile

I've just noticed that the anus.com forum, a forum dedicated to National Socialist and Pagan Black Metal, has declared that they are restricting access of posters to their Politics section because they want to guarantee a higher tone in the posts there. What's amusing is that they specifically cite Original Dissent by name as the kind of forum they seek to emulate! Oh, the irony!

Link is here: [url]http://bbs.anus.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002712[/url]


Texas Dissident

2004-06-14 07:20 | User Profile

You know I've seen that site in our referral logs before, but was always afraid to click to it thinking it was some kind of porn thing.

It is a bit funny that a self-described nihilist site is complaining about a lack of high tone. However, it does prove the point that if you don't set a high standard and then stick to it then things quickly digress to the profane. That doesn't win one too many friends, though.


PaleoconAvatar

2004-06-14 10:29 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]You know I've seen that site in our referral logs before, but was always afraid to click to it thinking it was some kind of porn thing.

Quite understandable.

It is a bit funny that a self-described nihilist site is complaining about a lack of high tone.

I originally found them from following links at Bill White's site. Normally I'd have ignored something like that but decided to pay more attention since the quality and topics of the posts were very high and very interesting, usually critiques of modernity and equality and such. The administrator has some interesting Amazon.com lists as well, covering Evola and other "Radical Traditionalists." Some of them occasionally post here, if I'm not mistaken, and no one's really noticed them since they mesh well with their high tone. The "core" group of posters likes philosophical discussions, and they understandably want to bar those who can't sustain those discussions--you know, the types that spew out epithets and can't form a coherent paragraph.

However, it does prove the point that if you don't set a high standard and then stick to it then things quickly digress to the profane. That doesn't win one too many friends, though.[/QUOTE]

That goes with the territory. It also supports something I've suspected about forums: they have a life cycle. It's interesting to trace the developments across FR, SFOF, Polinco, OD, etc. Eventually certain people branch off for whatever reasons. There's always new adventures ahead.


Okiereddust

2004-06-14 16:43 | User Profile

[QUOTE=PaleoconAvatar]I've just noticed that the anus.com forum, a forum dedicated to National Socialist and Pagan Black Metal, has declared that they are restricting access of posters to their Politics section because they want to guarantee a higher tone in the posts there. What's amusing is that they specifically cite Original Dissent by name as the kind of forum they seek to emulate! Oh, the irony!

Link is here: [url]http://bbs.anus.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002712[/url][/QUOTE]That specific link doesn't work, although I can get into the forum itself OK

[url]http://bbs.anus.com/ultimatebb.cgi[/url]


Okiereddust

2004-06-14 17:01 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]You know I've seen that site in our referral logs before, but was always afraid to click to it thinking it was some kind of porn thing.

It is a bit funny that a self-described nihilist site is complaining about a lack of high tone. However, it does prove the point that if you don't set a high standard and then stick to it then things quickly digress to the profane. That doesn't win one too many friends, though.[/QUOTE]Well the flame threads always seem to generate the most traffic. We can see it over in the Phora thread, on OD, which has quickly degenerated into a thread on human sexual perversions with Esther.

Its a question of talking about what people want to talk about or about what people really want to talk about.

Especially when you are dealing with major philosophical disagreements, it becomes increasingly difficult to enforce rules about "no personal attacks, especially as some succinct personal commentary increasingly becomes appropro versus endlessly going over scholastic treatisis.

National Review recalls such an exchange between a Catholic bishop and a noted cynic.

The Bishop: "I have an item of concern"

The cynic: "About my arguments"

The Bishop: "No, about your soul".


Okiereddust

2004-06-14 18:51 | User Profile

[QUOTE=PaleoconAvatar]That goes with the territory. It also supports something I've suspected about forums: they have a life cycle. It's interesting to trace the developments across FR, SFOF, Polinco, OD, etc. Eventually certain people branch off for whatever reasons. There's always new adventures ahead.[/QUOTE]

Well usually forums implode when an intractable difference of opinion arises between two factions. FR it was the Buchananites vs. the hardcore neocons, SFOF and OD it was been between religious conservatives vs. the nihlists.

I felt LGWH getting run off by the Polinco'ers was basically the end of that forums future. It is really amazing with what good will the Polinco'ers have been courted, such as Triskelion, and with what little good will they have responded. Arator's apology to JR for not realizing the difficulty of working with this people is more understandable now, although he should have realized personality wise JR and the Polincoers prett much have the same viewpoint towards people whose views and nation differ from theirs.


Hugh Lincoln

2004-06-16 19:41 | User Profile

[QUOTE=paleo]Bill White's site.[/QUOTE]

Now that's profane.