← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Franco
Thread ID: 14058 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2004-06-05
2004-06-05 00:36 | User Profile
I request that this post remain up and not be censored. It is polite.
There is a reason why I always posted about Jews at OD. People learn by repetition [sp?] and I know that what I learned about Jews came from hearing it over and over. You learned math and spelling that why, after all.
It is sad that my efforts were not seen as what they were and were instead seen as a "one-note Johnny" tactic. Not true at all. Nope. I was merely trying to educate White people about the world's most serious problem.
Without Whites, the West will not survive. It can survive without religion. I feel very badly that this board does not grasp that. I feel very badly that OD now seems to be a board where religion comes before our collective White futures.
I will miss all of you, some more than others. It has been fun.
Franco
2004-06-05 00:38 | User Profile
Franco you will be missed.
Feel free to drop me a line when you update your site.
You have my internet email address.
2004-06-05 01:10 | User Profile
I'll miss your stuff, Franco. Your nifty phraseology made passing desperately needed info into the hands of people who wouldn't have read it otherwise easier and more enjoyable. Sorry it had to end.
~ Ruffin
2004-06-05 01:25 | User Profile
Your departure is a disappointment, and I hope you will reconsider. Everyone has a role to play and a niche to fill. I cannot see how anything is furthered by abandoning one's post. Hasn't enough ground been ceded by this point in time in the West?
Think of it this way: while some here are sad to see you leave, others may be happy. Some of the happy ones may see it as a "victory" and credit themselves with bringing about that state of affairs. Why do something that makes your opponents happier and more smug?
If there are some people out there that have given you the sense that they want you to leave, then that's ever more reason to stay. Deny them the stake in the situation that they seek. Resistance isn't always futile. To adapt a quote from the X-Files: sometimes you can fight the future.
2004-06-05 02:04 | User Profile
PA, sort of like -
"A man is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits." ~ Richard M. Nixon
As a onetime supporter of Nixon, I couldn't pass it up.
I believe in that principle, though I think it should only apply to matters of life and death or some extreme circumstance. Even politics. Probably not to a message board. And not Franco - he won't ever quit.
2004-06-05 02:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE]I request that this post remain up and not be censored. It is polite.[/QUOTE]
When a man who has contributed [I]2000 posts [/I] to this board has to plead for fairness instead of censorship, it is a damning indictment of how fundamentally wrong things are going here.
In case any of you have forgotten, I was once one of Franco's harshest critics here. Yet Franco showed me something - in fact, he showed me something I don't possess myself: forbearance.
He could've fired back. He could've gone full-tilt Okie on me. He could've engaged me in a three-year, low-level guerrilla skirmish here. Certainly, by the rules I play by, he would've been justified in doing so.
He did none of those things. Instead, by his essentially modest manner and his unquestionable sincerity, he won me over, bit by bit, until I had to face the truth that this was a bonafide [I]good guy [/I] here, who deserved a pat on the back rather than a boot in the butt. I learned to like him, respect him and value him. And, like most good guys, he was quicker to respond with good-natured sincerity to a gentle chiding than a full-battery salvo.
I'm not sure if his m.o. of repitition made a whole lot of sense on a board like this where everybody is up to speed on the Jewish Question, but by this point it's immaterial. Franco's [I]family[/I].
Dunno the particulars behind this sayonara, but I suspect it isn't Frankie's idea. So...[I]mea maxima culpa[/I], Frankie. I'm glad we mended fences when we did, and I hope to cross paths with you again soon.
Go with God - but [I]get a receipt[/I].
2004-06-05 02:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]There is a reason why I always posted about Jews at OD. People learn by repetition [sp?] and I know that what I learned about Jews came from hearing it over and over. You learned math and spelling that why, after all.
You're very right that repetition is how people learn. The media and schools teach people to hate whites by repeatedly bashing whites. Humans are at least as emotional as rational.
Without Whites, the West will not survive. It can survive without religion. I feel very badly that this board does not grasp that. I feel very badly that OD now seems to be a board where religion comes before our collective White futures.
I believe that religion is essential to the white race. I don't think it's any coincidence that post-Christian American is also post-white America. Look at the Jews as an example of the value of religion. Judaism has allowed them to be unified as a race, in spite of being scattered around (due to their hostility to their host nations).
I also recognize the important contribution to white nationalism non-Christians make.
I will miss all of you, some more than others. It has been fun.
If you must go, stop in for a visit now-and-then and keep up the good fight.
2004-06-05 03:08 | User Profile
I agree; this is a shame and a loss for the forum.
I remember Franco used to hit Christians pretty hard (heretical Judeo-Christians really) back in the old days when he first joined up, but from what I remember he straightened up his act pretty quickly in response to Tex's requests. I think that showed real class right there -- and also a sincere desire to "bury the hatchet" and work with OD's more traditional religious members who were offended by some of his mpre strident rhetoric.
Another occasion when Franco showed real class was during the first mass exodus of quality people off this board. He stayed on to fight the good fight against the Chosen Ones who teach their kids of spit when they pass a Christian cemetery, and he did so among people who were openly hostile toward him and entirely ungrateful for his efforts.
As for his message being to some extent preaching to the choir, I think it's important to remember that Franco wasn't posting for us -- he was posting for the lurkers.
Remember, at one time, none of us knew the things we know now -- but I know if I had encountered Franco's writings years ago, I would have awoken to the truth much sooner than I did.
[QUOTE=il ragno]When a man who has contributed [I]2000 posts [/I] to this board has to plead for fairness instead of censorship, it is a damning indictment of how fundamentally wrong things are going here.[/QUOTE]
2004-06-05 03:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]I request that this post remain up and not be censored. It is polite.
There is a reason why I always posted about Jews at OD. People learn by repetition [sp?] and I know that what I learned about Jews came from hearing it over and over. You learned math and spelling that why, after all.
It is sad that my efforts were not seen as what they were and were instead seen as a "one-note Johnny" tactic. Not true at all. Nope. I was merely trying to educate White people about the world's most serious problem.
Like Il Ragno, I had to admit a personal fondness for the you to and your forbearance on this board. You had a different message than that of this board, acknowleged it, and never claimed you were being picked on or treated unfairly, even though from the gitgo there were those who thought you were an odd fish out of water here.
And I even understand the method behind your tactics, I think. Forgive me if I comment now when you can't respond. But I think what you were saying is -
"what is paleoconservatism, with all its griping about the neo's, and the new world order, foreign involvement, and immigration, multiculturalism, and cultural decline. Clearly our message will not be understood except but by a few. It will fly over the head of joe sixpack, sally soccermom, and betty churchgoer. It won't do them much good.
There is only one class of people who will understand our message. And most of these will reject us. A good fraction will call us anti-semites, trying unsuccesfully to cloak a racial message in a principled ideological package, and failing as a result. This as they successfully cloak their own racial message in a bogus ideological package, with huge practical success.
Why not just give up this ideological posing and intellectual pretention, forget about Jim GOP wannabees and Freeper Freddies, and go after Joe Sixpack with a message at least he will understand, and will certainly have a large amount of underlying truth in it?"
The implications of this message unfortunately is that we're all wasting our time, and bickering needlessly, (partially out of frustration out of the hard row this approach involves). I understood you, sympathize with you, but will have to differ with you. Ultimately, no matter how hard our approach is, I see no real alternative. But understandably some will look for alternatives. It is hard ultimately to work with those whose approach is so different than ours and so incompatible, and whose critique is so broad and fundamental. (We still wish to bristle at being compared to Nazi's - embracing or even strongly sympathizing with your approach would make this merely hypocritical pretension). But I think everyone here understands your frustration with the position of whites in America, the inability of the establishment to improve it, and the difficulty paleoconservatives have in sticking to advocacy of democratically legitimate and lawful means of organization political support for it. Such essential honesty is hard to dislike.
We will miss you, your lack of pretension, and your wry sense of humour.
2004-06-05 05:51 | User Profile
Okie, one problem is, and I think you understand, is that any White self interest that is spoken of, or organized for is called the N word right away...Really. I know leftist that the N word rolls off their lips with glee, yet they know O real history out of "Yes" jewish controlled media and education. The worst wiggers are the ones who grew up with an upper class family, at least in my experience..
Peter Brimelow? and his site VDARE has been called the N word many times as is Amren, and NNN etc... Any thing for free association, and closing the borders has the N word thrown at it. The N word is used to throw hate against whites. I gave a county worker [url]www.Numbersusa.com[/url] and he said it was Nazi.. Itz a mess.....