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Thread ID: 14018 | Posts: 11 | Started: 2004-06-02
2004-06-02 16:06 | User Profile
[url]http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/[/url]
Found here. I am a subscriber to this fine publication, and wish to introduce it on the off-chance that an OD poster is unaware of it. It's been around since the turn of the century (20th to 21st, that is) and runs eugenic stuff, light revisionist stuff and white nationalist stuff, along with good book reviews. Sam Francis, Jared Taylor and Kevin MacDonald are some of the superstars involved. The paper copy (nice to get that in this Internet world) is very slick and very professional. It's pricey, but I highly recommend a subscription.
The publishers and editors have just put out a "statement of principles," which I think should sit well with most OD members. Anyone have comments on them?
2004-06-02 20:25 | User Profile
I was a bit thrown by the use of the word "Germanic", though I know understand that to be a sort of wider European term. Still, the implication is that Anglo-Saxon culture is not included. That's odd, given that the founding of America was accomplished by Anglo-Saxons and we all speak English.
2004-06-02 20:51 | User Profile
To be the best of my recollection the Angles and the Saxons were Germanic peoples.
2004-06-02 20:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE]8. The quality of life rather than constant and perpetual increases in the material standard of living should be the emphasis of social and economic policy and public concern.[/QUOTE]
On the money. What was once a given - safe streets, civil order, the preservation of our natural beauty, and the expectation of the permanence of all three - ae now tell-tale signs that You're A Hater. I could live without a half-dozen remote controls and a flashing LED display on everything but my pecker. But while I might [I]survive [/I] being a random cog in an atomized structure - rootless, isolated, belonging to nothing and nowhere - we should never confuse this with '[I]living[/I]'.
2004-06-03 00:33 | User Profile
Very good stuff. Interesting that the Statement of Principles begins with this:
Since the fall of the Soviet Union major fissures have appeared in what is usually called ââ¬ÅAmerican conservatism.ââ¬Â Chief among these is the conflict between ââ¬Åpaleoconservatismââ¬Â and ââ¬Åneoconservatism.ââ¬Â Now a new, third school is emerging from the former. The Occidental Quarterly is an expression of that school and its exponents.
With this in mind, take a look at James Lubinskas' article "The End of Paleoconservatism" at [url]http://www.nationalinvestor.com/Experts-Lubinskas.htm[/url] :
One of the most important paleoconservatives, Samuel Francis, also agrees that the movement is dead. He blames lack of leadership, a good economy and petty squabbling within the movement for the demise. Still, he notes the elements that comprised the movement are still around and that at least two of the issues that fueled it - racial and cultural conflict and immigration - are likely to become more acute. He cites things such as reparations for blacks, the battle over Confederate statues and symbols, the targeting of Columbus Day, the minority status of whites in California, bilingual and multicultural education, hate crime legislation, the resistance to ending affirmative action and a multitude of other issues as a sign that racial conflict will get worse as demographic changes take their toll. Francis predicts a racial nationalism that will develop in response to these problems. Indeed, he thinks such a movement will be even more radical than paleoconservatism.
Still, mainstream conservatives are no doubt relieved to be rid of this threat from the right. For much of the last decade paleoconservatism was a thorn in the side of conservatism and caused a great deal of infighting. But as Francis points out, racially charged issues are on the horizon and could be the catalyst for another hard right movement. How compassionate conservatives deal with these issues could determine whether there will be a revival of this type of movement and a repeat of the wars that have been so damaging to the conservative movement.
It would seem there's a specific genealogy for the development of this "hard right." I suspect OD plays a major role in helping to form this development. Kudos to you all.
2004-06-03 03:39 | User Profile
That's cryptic, though in a good way, the "and now a third movement is evolving." White nationalism? Racially-conscious conservatism? Or whatever it is that we debate over what to call ourselves. That thing. Yeah.
2004-06-03 04:02 | User Profile
It would seem there's a specific genealogy for the development of this "hard right." I suspect OD plays a major role in helping to form this development. Kudos to you all.
Yes, I bet OD/ODers will play a key part in a "beyond-Paleoconservatism" movement, i.e. an ideology 1 or 2 steps beyond it re: race issues.
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2004-06-03 04:07 | User Profile
I bet OD reflects what Francis, Brimelow, Taylor, and MacDonald really think.
They're smart men.
They know paleoconservatism founded on explicit racialism is the way forward.
2004-06-03 04:11 | User Profile
The third way. Hmmm.
2004-06-03 14:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=PaleoconAvatar]Very good stuff. Interesting that the Statement of Principles begins with this:
With this in mind, take a look at James Lubinskas' article "The End of Paleoconservatism" at [url]http://www.nationalinvestor.com/Experts-Lubinskas.htm[/url] :
It would seem there's a specific genealogy for the development of this "hard right." I suspect OD plays a major role in helping to form this development. Kudos to you all.[/QUOTE] I know we've had a thread on Lubinskas' article her at OD. Its a pity we can't look at these old threads any more. I know with all the constant provider changes though its been very hard for Tex to keep up.
2004-06-04 08:14 | User Profile
Officially speaking, 'Germanic' includes the 'Anglo-Saxon.' However, the British are in fact principally a product of Germanic and Celtic tribes, as are the Irish -- and, to a lesser extent, the Germans themselves (the Germans being more Germanic, oddly enough). The French likewise are pretty darn Celtic.
So yeah, I'd say that claiming 'The West is a cultural compound of our Classical, Christian, and Germanic past,' is a pretty odd statement. It doesn't bode well from the quality of the journal. Indeed, I let my subscription lapse because the articles bored me to death and often had this eerie, 'Weee aar vriting von Argentinia' feel to them. But perhaps there is hope they will clean things up a bit.
I would suggest writing to ask for 'Celtic' and maybe 'Slavic' and 'Roman' to be added (if you have an email account you are willing to use for that sort of thing).
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]I was a bit thrown by the use of the word "Germanic", though I know understand that to be a sort of wider European term. Still, the implication is that Anglo-Saxon culture is not included. That's odd, given that the founding of America was accomplished by Anglo-Saxons and we all speak English.[/QUOTE]