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2004-06-02 14:13 | User Profile
[FONT=Times New Roman]I personally love the [COLOR=Blue]Jewish World Review[/COLOR]. No, you won't often find the front rank of Podhoretzim contributing here; JWR mostly features your basic second-tier Zionist maniacs and a good smattering of bottom-feeding shabbas goyim, all hard at work propagandizing, with meat cleavers and sledgehammers in their hands. But I love the JWR precisely [I]because [/I] the gloves are off and most of their pundits cheerfully adopt the very sort of 'kill-em-all' rhetoric they would ordinarily create a Ford Foundation-sponsored miniseries to denounce and decry were the words flowing from any but Jewish keyboards.
I'm also indebted to JWR for opening my eyes to the extent of Jewish stealth. Prior to JWR, you could never have convinced me that a "Greg Crosby" was Jewish. But thanks to this fine publication, I now realize that there is no such thing as [I]gentile paranoia[/I], and that even the "Joe Smith"s among us need to be checked for horns beneath the hairline.[/FONT]
How We Will Lose the Islamo-Fascist War
By Greg Crosby
[url]http://www.jewishworldreview.com[/url] | Please bear with me this week as I share some of my thoughts with you concerning the war on terror. I warn you, my mood has not been particularly upbeat lately. I am troubled with what I detect as an anti-war sentiment slowly welling up in our country instigated primarily, although not solely, by the mainstream media. It is depressing to me since I believe that we are engaged in a war that we absolutely cannot afford to lose — but we may indeed lose it, if things don't change.
Some have made the statement that our present enemies are no more evil, ruthless, nor determined than was Hitler's Nazis, and since we succeeded in defeating the Nazis, the thinking goes, we will, in time, defeat the Islamic terrorists too. Nice try, but I don't buy the comparison; in fact I submit that the Islamic fascists we are up against today are by far a more formidable enemy than were the Nazis. Here's why:
First, there are many more radical, Western-hating Muslims in the world today than there were Nazis in Germany during World War II.
Second, they are virtually a stealth enemy; no uniforms, no one country of origin, no central headquarters.
Third, they believe they are driven to this holy war by Allah. They believe their religion commands the slaughter and eradication of all who do not think as they do.
Since they adhere to no normal rules of combat, they are far more ruthless than were the Germans. The Islamists kidnap and murder civilians, use guerrilla tactics, hide in mosques, blend into the civilian population, and have no problem in killing their own people or blowing themselves up. In short they will stop at nothing to destroy us. They literally live to kill us.
They're not bound by Geneva Convention criteria, nor world opinion, nor political correctness, as is America.
The Islamists have a long memory and a deep-seated hatred. Their blood feuds go back centuries. They're still fighting the Crusades with a determination and rage that is incomprehensible to westerners. Conversely, Americans have a short attention span and an even shorter memory. It hasn't even been three years since the 9-11 attacks and already much of us have seemed to have forgotten it — moving on to other priorities such as banning second-hand smoke, watching Donald Trump fire people on TV, and following all the latest celebrity court cases. About half of our country is ready to quit the war on terror altogether.
Political correctness could keep us from winning this war. Our society is so overly-sensitized to this PC doctrine that our government can't even officially call our enemies by their true name — we use euphemisms such as "terrorists," "evil doers," and "enemies of freedom" instead of calling them what they are, and there are several good names — Islamo-fascists, Muslim militants, Islamists, Islamic-jihadists.
To say we are engaged in a "war on terror" is to give the impression that we are fighting against some relatively small ragtag band of crazy religious zealots, sort of like Jim Jones, or the Branch Dividians. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Islamic-jihadists have networks throughout the world and their followers may well number into the millions. We are fighting World War III, and I wish somebody in our government would say so. The Islamists have declared a holy war on us and they are prepared to fight us to the death no matter how many years it takes. Any yet there are many Americans who still believe we can somehow negotiate with them or treat them as though they are just a few misguided criminals. As one political pundit has so clearly put it, "How can we expect to win when they're willing to die for their cause — but we are not willing to even kill for our survival?"
I fear our leaders are losing resolve. Secretary of State Colin Powell and Iraq Governor Paul Bremer has said that American troops would leave Iraq if they were asked to do so by the new ruling government — WHAT? After everything we've been through, after the sacrifices made by our soldiers, how can they say such a thing? It's a weak statement for Americans to hear who want to see Iraq tamed and hopefully put out of the terrorist business once and for all. And it is the wrong message to send to the moderate Iraqis who want to feel protected and supported by us against the militant factions, not to mention the message it sends to the enemy that we got our runnin' shoes on and we're ready to split.
Following the brutal murders and desecration of the bodies of 4 American contractors, we proclaimed to the world that the guilty will pay. We threatened and we didn't make good on those threats. We gathered at Fallujah, saying that we would "pacify" the town and then we stalled. We said we would go after the militant leader, Muqtada al Sadr and bring him to Justice and we haven't. Just as Bush needs tough determined rhetoric, we also need some follow-through, folks. We need some battlefront victories so that Americans are convinced that we know what the hell we're doing over there. We need to win the battle in Iraq before we can win the larger war. There will be other fronts on the larger war, they're waiting for us now, but we can't address them if we get mired in Iraq by attempting too hard to "do the politically correct right thing."
Bush has gotten weak of late in the things he says and does. The strength and resolve he showed after the 9-11 attacks has been replaced with parsing words, stuttering, and political correct phrases. And the American people feel it. Most of us want to sense that our President knows what he must do and is committed to doing it. With the ongoing drumbeat in the media over the photos of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, Americans, made to feel ashamed in the eyes of the world, are beginning to doubt whether the war in Iraq is worth it at all. Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfield travel around the world apologizing to all Arabs who'll listen. The more protracted and extensive the apologies get, the more people will become convinced that the abuses that took place in that Iraqi prison must have been torture of such a horrific level that it ranks among the world's worst atrocities — along side the Gulags, and Nazi death camps. And the more the media digs into it, the more they will find, and the more they find, the more they'll harp on it.
The incessant press and television coverage during the Vietnam War helped to turn Americans against it. The very same thing will undoubtedly happen with the war in the Middle East. If enough dead American names are read on ABC's Nightline, if enough prisoner maltreatment is uncovered and reported on, if the media continues to make the Islamist Jihadists the victims, if the anti-war protest marches and rallies continue to grow in number and continue to get extensive daily television coverage, and the Democrats continue to jump on all of this to bring down Bush, then the wearing-down effect will happen — Americans will slowly but surly start to forget why we are fighting in the first place and the general sentiment will be to "bring the troops home."
When that happens, watch for John Kerry (who up until the prison abuse story broke had been sounding moderate to almost hawkish in his campaign speeches concerning the war) to take a sudden, yet decidedly anti-war stance. He will proclaim that if elected he will end the war and "bring our young men and women home" and he will win. After he takes office he will make good on his promise and begin the extrication of our forces from the region — leaving the place to the terrorists in much the same way that South Vietnam was left to the North. When this happens we are done for. It will be exactly at that point in time when we will have lost the war to the Islamic Terrorists.
[I]JWR contributor Greg Crosby, former creative head for Walt Disney publications, has written thousands of comics, hundreds of children's books, dozens of essays, and a letter to his congressman. [/I]
2004-06-02 20:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=greg "crosby"]Our society is so overly-sensitized to this PC doctrine that our government can't even officially call our enemies by their true name ââ¬â we use euphemisms such as "terrorists," "evil doers," and "enemies of freedom" instead of calling them what they are, and there are several good names ââ¬â Islamo-fascists, Muslim militants, Islamists, Islamic-jihadists.[/QUOTE]
One might say the same thing about paleocons at Chronicles railing about the "neo-Jacobins."
Crosby (he's Jewish, by the way, for those who didn't know) is engaging in what I call Hitler Recycling. That is, the economical process whereby Jews extract additional returns from their initial heavy investment in anti-Nazi propaganda by comparing present and future enemies to Nazis. Or worse. The capital investment created a solid mental infrastructure now wedged into the back of the brains of most Americans, for which Jews now need only conjure with the magic words. Thus demonstrating that not only are Jews manipulative little rodents, they're [I]cheap[/I] manipulative little rodents.
2004-06-03 20:43 | User Profile
Now the trained monkeys are performing.
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&u=/afp/20040603/pl_afp/iraq_us_dday_powell_040603185345&printer=1[/url]
2004-06-03 20:46 | User Profile
I almost feel for Colon; he hasn't been through the mill yet. He actually thinks meeting them halfway will gain him something.
It never does. It just cuts the distance they have to travel to eliminate you in half.
2004-06-03 21:20 | User Profile
Doesn't comparing this criminal war in Iraq trivialize the great quest for justice and saving European Jews a.k.a. the War against the evil Nazis that America won?
If these are comparable, what does that say about WWII?
2004-06-04 01:06 | User Profile
Since they adhere to no normal rules of combat, they are far more ruthless than were the Germans. The Islamists kidnap and murder civilians, use guerrilla tactics, hide in mosques, blend into the civilian population, and have no problem in killing their own people or blowing themselves up. In short they will stop at nothing to destroy us. They literally live to kill us.
They're not bound by Geneva Convention criteria, nor world opinion, nor political correctness, as is America.
How clumsy an author! In his zeal to whip up hysteria against the Muslims by comparing them to the Germans and finding the Muslims "worse," Crosby's also unwittingly has to admit a lot of "positive" things about the Nazis: they adhered to normal rules of combat, followed the Geneva Convention, and so on. What a bind he finds himself in! :lol:
2004-06-04 01:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]One might say the same thing about paleocons at Chronicles railing about the "neo-Jacobins."
Crosby (he's Jewish, by the way, for those who didn't know) is engaging in what I call Hitler Recycling. That is, the economical process whereby Jews extract additional returns from their initial heavy investment in anti-Nazi propaganda by comparing present and future enemies to Nazis. Or worse. The capital investment created a solid mental infrastructure now wedged into the back of the brains of most Americans, for which Jews now need only conjure with the magic words. Thus demonstrating that not only are Jews manipulative little rodents, they're [I]cheap[/I] manipulative little rodents.[/QUOTE]
I hope they keep Hitler Recycling. As madrussian points out, the more they cry wolf (no pun intended), the less people will listen. Desensitization in reverse...I love it!
2004-06-04 01:26 | User Profile
Greg forgot to mention the fact that the Arabs were not our enemies till we became "friends" with the Zionists.
And about the way the Arabs fight? He forgot to mention the fact that they are fighting for their homeland and that we are the invading army.
Sorry if I sound as an anti-American but I am only anti-Zionist and I hate to see how Uncle Sam falls for the trickily of the Zionists every time.
2004-06-04 02:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Sorry if I sound as an anti-American but I am only anti-Zionist and I hate to see how Uncle Sam falls for the trickily of the Zionists every time.[/QUOTE]
Nixon said, "We're all Keynesians now." I say, "We're all anti-Americans now." And your quote touches on the reason why: "Americanism" and "Zionism" have become virtually indistinguishable. To be more precise, it is modern America that is rightly despised by the Authentic Right (and the Authentic Left as well, with whom we have a lot in common in regard to this struggle against the hegemony of globalization and "true-diversity-destroying" multiracialism). We haven't left our country--our country marooned us after a certain crew hijacked her.
2004-06-04 04:30 | User Profile
As hard as it is to believe - IDF soldiers entered a classroom in the Rafah refugee camp and called out the names of Mahmoud Hammad and Madje Harare. The IDF told them they were under arrest for throwing stones during the recent Gaza offensive.
The children were given blindfolds and told to stand in the middle of the classroom. The soldiers told the 40 other students " This is what you will get if you throw stones "
The IDF shot them in cold blood !!
Both boys are executed
The above was copied form Signs of the times,,,,,, I have no comment.
2004-06-04 04:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]As hard as it is to believe - IDF soldiers entered a classroom in the Rafah refugee camp and called out the names of Mahmoud Hammad and Madje Harare. The IDF told them they were under arrest for throwing stones during the recent Gaza offensive.
The children were given blindfolds and told to stand in the middle of the classroom. The soldiers told the 40 other students " This is what you will get if you throw stones "
The IDF shot them in cold blood !!
Both boys are executed
The above was copied form Signs of the times,,,,,, I have no comment.[/QUOTE]
If this is a breaking news story, I'd appreciate a link to it. Thanks.
2004-06-04 05:02 | User Profile
Sounds too horrific to be true. Of course if it IS true, don't hold your breath waiting for Big Jewish Media to tell you about it. But every instance of this 'story' I found was worded the [I]exact same way[/I]...up to and including the double-exclamation points ("The IDF shot them in cold blood!!") which no actual press organization would allow to be vetted through.
2004-06-04 05:13 | User Profile
One second, let me see how to do it.
2004-06-04 05:21 | User Profile
[url]http://www.cassiopaea.org/signs/signs.htm[/url]
Did it, go about 3/4 down and you will read the article and see the blood in the classroom, also about another kid shot,,,,,,,,
2004-06-04 05:37 | User Profile
It sounds a little too newsworthy. If I find a different take on it I'll put it up.
2004-06-04 05:55 | User Profile
Ponce, the same story, word-for-word and including the photos, is up at
[url]http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1891[/url]
home.att.net/~kimmel_a/Post_Gazette/ School_shooting.htm
But maybe the story will yet play out. Here's a less-spectacular but more-convincing account along similar lines:
[QUOTE][url]http://www.btselem.org/English/Testimonies/0209_10_Disruption_of_Shcool_Year_in_Hebron.asp[/url]
[B]Abuse of a 13 year-old student by IDF Soldiers[/B]
[COLOR=Indigo]Testimony of Amajad Hani Muhammad Gheeth, born 1989, 7th grade student, resident of Hebron, area H2; given to Mussa Abu Hashash on October 24, 2002, in Hebron[/COLOR]
I am a student in the 7th grade and I live in Hebron, in area H2. My house is close to the elementary school for boys, where I study. The school is adjacent to a military checkpoint, which is situated on the Tomb of the Patriarchs-Kiryat Arbah road.
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at about 10:00 A.M., I sat in a lesson in my classroom. I was sitting in the back of the room, next to a window. Suddenly, the door opened and two soldiers entered and approached me. They demanded that I accompany them and one of them pulled me by my right hand. Two teachers tried to intervene, but they couldn't stop them, and I went with them down the stairs. Downstairs in the schoolyard, two more soldiers were waiting for us. The took me opposite the school, and one of them slapped me on the face and said, “You throw stones and curse at soldiers.” I answered that I had not done so. The soldier that hit me put his gun to my forehead and said that they will kill me. I wasn't scared, but the soldier pressed his finger on my arm and hurt me. I started to cry and the second soldier intervened. He was tall and full-bodied. He recommended to the first soldier that they take me to the military checkpoint.
I went with the two soldiers to the military checkpoint, and there, the soldier asked me a second time if I had thrown stones and cursed at the soldiers. I said I hadn't. Later, the tall, fat soldier pulled me to him forcefully and kissed me on the face. I didn't understand why he did that. While I was with the two soldiers, a Border Police jeep arrived and stopped at the checkpoint. The officer in the jeep asked me if I had thrown stones at the soldiers, and I said I hadn't. The officer instructed me to leave the place.
I returned to school and continued with the school day. When I returned home, I told my mother what had happened. On the way home, a soldier blocked my path and kicked me. He said he would hang me if I threw stones at soldiers again.
[B]IDF Soldiers' Violence against School Principal[/B]
[COLOR=Indigo]Testimony of J'afar Yusef Isma'il Wazuz, born 1955, married, father of four, school principal, Hebron; given to Musa Abu Hashhash, at the school, on October 24, 2002[/COLOR]
I am the principal of a primary school for boys in Hebron. The school is in area H2, about 500 meters south of the Tomb of the Patriarchs. There are 390 students in the school, aged between 13 and 16, and 20 teachers.
[IMG]http://www.btselem.org/Images/Photographs/0902_Soldiers_Close_al_Khalil_Shcool_small.jpg[/IMG] [I]IDF Soldiers Closing al-Khalil Elementary School for boys on First Day of School, Hebron, Area H2, September 2002. Photo: The Christian Peacemaker Team [/I]
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at about 10:30 A.M., while the students were in class, I stood in the schoolyard. A Border Police jeep stopped across from the school, and an officer got out onto the roof of the jeep, and threw a percussion grenade near me. I jumped and backed away from the grenade and turned to the gate of the school to open it. Two officers entered the school grounds and one of them forced my out to the street by grabbing by my left arm. He said he would show me the stones that the students had thrown at the jeep. I explained to him that the students were in class and added that it maybe have been the evening students who had thrown the stones. That same minute, tens of evening students were walking in the street towards the school. They were younger than 12 years old. I told the officer that if the soldiers and border police officers didn't come to the street and approach the school, then the conflicts between the students and the army would decrease. The border police officers did not appreciate my statements, and they threatened to close the school if the students threw stones again. Eventually, they left the area. The grenade which had been thrown frightened some students who started to scream. When the border police officers left the area, the teachers calmed the students.
This wasn't the first time that the soldiers harassed me. A month ago, border police officers that stood in the road called to me. One of them punched me in the chest. He claimed that I was responsible for the students throwing stones at the army.
[B]Disruption of School Activity by IDF Soldiers and Settler Violence[/B]
[COLOR=Indigo]Testimony of Ferial Abu Haikal, born 1952, married, Kortoba school principal, resident of Hebron, 15 October 2002; given to Musa Abu Hashhash at the school[/COLOR]
I have been working as the principal of the Kortoba school since 1995. The school is located on a-Shuhada street, in H2, opposite the Beit Hadassah settlement. When I first started working, there were 200 students between the ages of six and 15. They lived in the areas near the old city and in Tel Rumeida. The teachers come from different areas in the Hebron district, such as Beit Umar, Halhul and the city of Hebron. I myself live in Tel Rumeida. Nowadays, there are only a hundred students at the school and fourteen teachers. The number of students dropped significantly during the current intifada, because of the hard conditions, harassment by settlers and the military and the curfew constantly imposed on the old city. Parents have moved their daughters to safer schools for fear for their lives.
[IMG]http://www.btselem.org/Images/Photographs/0902_Damage_to_Kortoba_School_small.jpeg[/IMG] [I]Damage to property by settlers, Kortova school for girls, Hebron, September 2002. Photo: The Christian Peacemaker Team [/I]
Last year, the school was shut down for 25% of the school year because of curfews. This has adversely affected the students' academic achievements. Families have constantly tried to move their daughters to schools where studies are not interrupted. This year, out of 40 school days so far, 15 were cancelled.
In addition to curfews, the teachers and students come across problems unique to our school. Students are often late because they have to walk longer routes in order to avoid the checkpoints in the area. The soldiers at these checkpoints often prevent their passage. Teachers are sometimes late too. On days when there is no curfew, the soldiers usually let them through when they present their employee tags. When there is curfew, the soldiers don't let them through and there is no school.
Another problem is the difficulties getting furniture, school supplies and food through the checkpoint, particularly the Beit Romano checkpoint. This morning, the soldiers wouldn't let the man who brings food for the school's cafeteria to go through. He waited for more than an hour, but eventually had to turn around. The students had no food.
As the school is close to the Beit Hadassah settlement, settlers who walk along a-Shuhada street often harass students and teachers, especially after Palestinian attacks on settlers. They do so when the students are on their way to the school and back.
On Tuesday, 18 October, at around noon, the students left the school. Settlers had been harassing residents in Tel Rumeida throughout the day, so we called the Palestinian DCO to arrange protection for the students. We were told to wait about 30 minutes as the Israeli army was taking care of it and would see to it that the students are protected. We waited for half an hour and at around 12:30, we sent the girls home accompanied by about twenty soldiers. When we got to the checkpoint at the edge of a-Shuhada street, a white car arrived. It was driven by a young woman settler. Five young female settlers got out of the car and began harassing the students. The soldiers tried to separate between us and them. Some of the students ran away screaming and hid in the homes of the neighbors. The soldiers recommended we go back to the school to avoid trouble, and so we did. I went back to the school with about forty students and stayed there for over an hour.
The soldiers then told us we could send the students back home. But soldiers prevented those who live in Tel Rumeida from getting to their homes. They claimed there was trouble in the area. I went with the rest of the students to the parking lot in H1 and sent them home in cabs.
On Sunday, 13 October, sometime between 12:30 AM and 1:00, the school guard, Abu Haitham called me and told me that more than ten settlers had arrived at the school, broken six large windows and written racist graffiti on the walls such as “death to Arabs.” I informed the DCO and they called the Israeli Police. In the morning, police officers came to examine the damage. There was no school that day because of the curfew. When I got to the school I saw the broken glass and the graffiti. The police officers asked if I wanted to file a complaint. I said I didn't. I know nothing would come out of it.
[B]Settlers Violence Against Elementary School Girls[/B]
[COLOR=Indigo]Testimony of Ferial Abu Haikal, Kortoba school principal, 22 October, 2002; given to Musa Abu Hashhash at the school[/COLOR]
On Saturday, 19 October, at around 11:30, the school bell rang and the students got ready to leave the school. As they were coming out of their classes, I heard them screaming. I also heard the sound of stones being thrown at the school. I got out of my room to find out what was going on and saw more than fifteen settlers between the ages of 12 and 18 standing near Beit Hadassah, which is opposite the school. They were throwing stones at the school and at the students who were on the street. I asked the girls to go back inside immediately. About forty of them didn't make it back inside and I saw them running away in different directions. The settlers chased them and kept throwing stones. I took a camera that had no film and pretended to take photos of the settlers. I thought it might scare them. They were still throwing stones at the school and the students.
I called the DCO and informed them of what was going on. Half an hour later, a border police jeep and a TIPH car came. The TIPH members escorted the girls outside the school. I walked with them until we got away from the place. When we got out of the school, the settlers had already left.
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Oddly enough, these stories are more credible due to the source (The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories) and the relatively-restrained IDF abuses described. You get a real sense of the day-after-day Chinese-water torture that gentile life under Jewish rule [I]is[/I].
2004-06-04 06:29 | User Profile
Sometimes I wish that I was in Palestine so that I could do something about it, but it ok, sooner or later there will be pay back,,,,,,,,,,
"When the truth comes into the light the lies will hide in the dark",,,,,Ponce