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Thread ID: 13844 | Posts: 21 | Started: 2004-05-23
2004-05-23 17:04 | User Profile
I saw Troy yesterday and it's awesome. Massive 100% White cast, authentic set, unbelievable seamless computer generated cities full of people.
I also saw mean girls. It was funny cause it's so true. Hot little rich girls acting like spoiled bitches who are insanely jealous of each other.
2004-05-23 17:44 | User Profile
I wonder what prompted the race-mixing fanatics to produce this. Sometimes the lure of the $$$$$ is too much to resist I suppose (following on from the zillions made by the Lord of the Rings series).
2004-05-23 19:54 | User Profile
I think the Hollywood type are realizing that all white casts make the most money.
Lord of the Rings, Braveheart, Titanic,
While multi-cultural movies tend to bomb, unless they are geard strictly at teenagers and children.
Also, all white TV shows do the best (yes I'm well aware that they use a lot of Jews, but the average white American views Jews and regular white people)
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2004-05-24 08:41 | User Profile
heritagelost,
Sounds like it may be a good film.
2004-05-24 13:02 | User Profile
:D [QUOTE=heritagelost]I also saw mean girls. It was funny cause it's so true. Hot little rich girls acting like spoiled bitches who are insanely jealous of each other.[/QUOTE]
Mean Girls belongs in that ever-present subset of movies which I've dubbed "Evil Blond" movies (or "Evil Blonde" if you prefer). Wicked blonds are everywhere in movies these days. I, Robot features a group of heroic nonwhites battling blue-eyed pale white robots and their blond David Duke-looking capitalist creator. Other recent Evil Blond movies include: Shrek 2 (Prince Charming) the Walking Tall remake Spiderman even the Lord of the Rings featured a blonde orc, for cryin' out loud.
Doubtless the next Spielberg WWII spectacular will feature Hitler with highlights in his hair. :D
2004-05-24 13:24 | User Profile
QUOTE=Feric Jaggareven the Lord of the Rings featured a blonde orc, for cryin' out loud.[/QUOTE] I agree with your general observation, but I cannot remember a blonde orc in these movies. Perhaps you could refresh my memory?
2004-05-24 13:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]I agree with your general observation, but I cannot remember a blonde orc in these movies. Perhaps you could refresh my memory?[/QUOTE]
Actually I believe on second thought that it was a big Uruk Hai who was blond (not one of the weasley little orcs). He's in the Two Towers I know (I just went back and checked) and he's a part of the group that's taken Merry and Pippin. In Return of the King there's a blond blue-eyed Uruk who is one of the leaders and is the first one killed when the ghosts come off the ships at the end.
Mind you, in LotR there's probably 500 good blondes for every 1 blond Uruk (I especially liked the battle of Helms Deep where the camera cuts between shots of the slavering black Uruks at the walls and the little blond children and their mothers huddling inside--poignant) but it is strange.
2004-05-24 14:37 | User Profile
It is pretty obvious that the orcs all had non-white features. The movie was true to the book and the book is very racial. With Lord of the Rings and the Passion, as well as all the other all-white movies coming out, it is clear that their is a huge mass of people that want to see movie more wholesome and meaningful that the sick degenerate shit that the Jews have been pumping out all these years.
When each person sees a movie, the money they pay for the ticket is vote for what kind of movies they want to see in the future. Because of this fact, directors like Mel Gibson and Jackson are creating an alternative Hollywood that is beating the Jews at their own game.
Mean girls was not an "evil blond" movie. In mean girls, two blonds, a redhead and a Jewish brunette are the four most popular girls in a multi-racial school. All the other girls want to be like them, and all the guys want to date them. In the school cafeteria all the blacks sit together and all the asians sit together. The two outcasts that nobody likes are a black-haired Lebanese girl and a fag who hang out together.
If the writers of Means Girls want to be anti-white, they would have made the four girls a multi-racial sub-set.
In this respect, I could say the movie is refreshingly pro-white, as they didn't show the
I also can't figure out why you called Spiderman an "evil blond" movie.
Spiderman took place in New York and not only had a white cast, but virtually all the extras are white. Spiderman was the exact opposite of typical Hollywood movies. Instead of having an unrealistically high number of non-whites, it had an unrealistically low number of non-whites.
[B]Lethal Weapon 3 is an actual example of an "Evil Blond" movie. An Irishman and a Negro battle the wicked "white-than-white" Germans. [/B]
2004-05-24 16:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=heritagelost]It is pretty obvious that the orcs all had non-white features. The movie was true to the book and the book is very racial. With Lord of the Rings and the Passion, as well as all the other all-white movies coming out, it is clear that their is a huge mass of people that want to see movie more wholesome and meaningful that the sick degenerate shit that the Jews have been pumping out all these years. [/QUOTE]
I should rephrase, it's the theme of the evil blond in movies, not an evil blond movie per se. I don't deny the nonwhite natures of the orcs and Uruk hai. But I can walk to my TV right now and see a blond Uruk Hai. There he is. Right now!
[QUOTE=heritagelost]If the writers of Means Girls want to be anti-white, they would have made the four girls a multi-racial sub-set.[/QUOTE]
I never hinted that the film was anti-white.
[QUOTE=heritagelost] I also can't figure out why you called Spiderman an "evil blond" movie.[/QUOTE]
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Spiderman took place in New York and not only had a white cast, but virtually all the extras are white. Spiderman was the exact opposite of typical Hollywood movies. Instead of having an unrealistically high number of non-whites, it had an unrealistically low number of non-whites.[/QUOTE]
It's not my thesis that "evil blond" means "anti-white". I find it very odd that LotR had blond Uruks and yet I would NEVER say that this is an anti-white film.
2004-05-24 17:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=heritagelost]It is pretty obvious that the orcs all had non-white features. The movie was true to the book and the book is very racial. With Lord of the Rings and the Passion, as well as all the other all-white movies coming out, it is clear that their is a huge mass of people that want to see movie more wholesome and meaningful that the sick degenerate shit that the Jews have been pumping out all these years. [/QUOTE]
I should rephrase, it's the theme of the evil blond in movies, not an evil blond movie per se. I don't deny the nonwhite natures of the orcs and Uruk hai. But I can walk to my TV right now and see a blond Uruk Hai. His name is Ugluk.
[QUOTE=heritagelost]If the writers of Means Girls want to be anti-white, they would have made the four girls a multi-racial sub-set.[/QUOTE]
I never hinted that the film was anti-white.
[QUOTE=heritagelost] I also can't figure out why you called Spiderman an "evil blond" movie.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=heritagelost]Spiderman took place in New York and not only had a white cast, but virtually all the extras are white. Spiderman was the exact opposite of typical Hollywood movies. Instead of having an unrealistically high number of non-whites, it had an unrealistically low number of non-whites.[/QUOTE]
It's not my thesis that "evil blond" means "anti-white". I find it very odd that LotR had blond Uruks and yet I would NEVER say that these are anti-white films. That would be absurd.
It's clear you enjoy these films and I don't want to take away from that. But you'll not see a recent movie like Mean Girls where the heroine is blond and the "mean girls" are dark haired. No, in the modern Hollywood mind, blonde hair is elitist, snobby and WASPy (remember Revenge of the Nerds). Jews are traditionally dark and yet they find these blonde shiksas attractive. Sexy blondes threaten their sense of ethnic identity. So blondes become ditsy and stupid or wicked and conniving. I think it also has a lot to do with the jewish mind's reaction to all things perceived as Aryan. If Hitler liked it then we should hate it, they think.
Also, Hollywood has been accused of all manner of racism by casting blondes as protagonists...
[url]http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2001-07-18/movie.html[/url]
...and Hollywood, everready to appease the liberal mind, responds. A recent Bond movie had an Asian as the antagonist. But wouldn't that be racist? No, they made him a blonde blue-eyed Asian so everything would be okay. Several other Bond films feature blonde villains.
Let's not forget Villiage of the Damned. [IMG]http://www.moviesnapshot.com/1995Stills/Village_Of_The_Damned.JPG[/IMG] Or the Harry Potter movies. The sub-human monsters in the recent Time Machine remake all had blonde hair (as if a deliberate slap at the Eloi of the original George Pal "Time Machine"). Here's a web site that I've just stumbled across that notes the history of the blonde villains in films: [url]http://www.nordish.net/~ladygoeth/blondoid.html[/url] They mention other anti-blonde movies like the Karate Kid, the Die Hard movies, Animal House, Indiana Jones, and others (all these movies were overwhelmingly white and yet they are still "evil blonde" films).
2004-05-24 21:47 | User Profile
I highly recommend [url=http://www.troymovie.com/]Troy[/url] as well. I'm still surprised they didn't try to cast Beyoncé as Helen, or The Rock as Achilles or some :dung: .
Here's a web site that I've just stumbled across that notes the history of the blonde villains in films: [url]http://www.nordish.net/~ladygoeth/blondoid.html[/url]
That's an interesting site. I have noticed this myself, but never gave it much thought (maybe because I'm not blond). It's easy to read too much into this stuff, but there seems to be too many instances of it to be a mere coincidence.
But I don't agree with her calling Paul Bettany a "stereotypical dumb blond" in A Knight's Tale: he was playing Geoffrey Chaucer. I think the guy with red hair was dumber, actually. Also in that movie, the hero was a blond, and the bad guy had dark hair.
2004-05-25 15:18 | User Profile
I'm all for movies with positive portrayals of white folks, but is Troy actually any good as a movie? And how faithful is it to the Illiad? Does it completely suck like the tv movie Helen of Troy last year?
2004-05-25 15:38 | User Profile
The movie is better than Helen of Troy. Actually my biggest complaint about Helen of Troy was the ten minute long commercial breaks every five minutes. They had so many commercials that it was hard to watch.
Troy is ****ing totally awesome. Helen and Paris are not the main characters. Archillies is the main character in the movie. The battle scenes are second only to braveheart. It also shows authentic greek squad tactics. In fact everything was extremely authentic.
The movie does not show any direct involvement by the Gods like the Illiad.
[QUOTE=Quantrill]I'm all for movies with positive portrayals of white folks, but is Troy actually any good as a movie? And how faithful is it to the Illiad? Does it completely suck like the tv movie Helen of Troy last year?[/QUOTE]
2004-05-29 03:49 | User Profile
Troy does take liberties with the Iliad, (the film says it was "inspired" by it). It is done as a straight historical drama: as heritagelost said, there are no Gods, Goddesses or other fantastic beings. The movie makes you believe that this is how the Trojan War may have actually happened. If someone is looking for a LOTR-type film then they may be disappointed.
2004-06-06 15:39 | User Profile
My wife and I saw it yesterday, and I agree it was a terrific film. I wasn't expecting much to be honest, and I ended up being pleasantly surprised. Very pleasantly surprised. Wolfgang Peterson did a terrific job.
Troy is a film that should make any healthy person proud and grateful to be a member of the Aryan race.
The story was conceived almost 3000 years ago by one of the greatest men our race has ever produced (Homer), and yet, amazingly, the story still speaks to us and moves us today -- if that's not a testament to the genius of the White man, I don't what is.
Plus, the sheer physical beauty and elan of the all White cast is an absolute delight and almost by itself worth the price of admission.
Brad Pitt with his Olympian physique, sky blue eyes, and long blond mane looks like the second coming of Adonis in this movie -- as do the actors that play Patroclus, Paris, and Hector. More to my liking, however, are the women, especially the pretty brunette who plays Briesies -- though the young blond woman cast as Helen of Troy is not exactly displeasing to look upon either.
All in all, this a great film for Whites. Find time to see it if you haven't already.
2004-06-06 19:47 | User Profile
It's on my list of greatest Aryan movies ever.
I think movies like LOTR, Titanic, and other having proven beyound a shadow of a doubt that whites prefer movies with all white cast.
[QUOTE=Valley Forge]My wife and I saw it yesterday, and I agree it was a terrific film. I wasn't expecting much to be honest, and I ended up being pleasantly surprised. Very pleasantly surprised. Wolfgang Peterson did a terrific job.
Troy is a film that should make any healthy person proud and grateful to be a member of the Aryan race.
The story was conceived almost 3000 years ago by one of the greatest men our race has ever produced (Homer), and yet, amazingly, the story still speaks to us and moves us today -- if that's not a testament to the genius of the White man, I don't what is.
Plus, the sheer physical beauty and elan of the all White cast is an absolute delight and almost by itself worth the price of admission.
Brad Pitt with his Olympian physique, sky blue eyes, and long blond mane looks like the second coming of Adonis in this movie -- as do the actors that play Patroclus, Paris, and Hector. More to my liking, however, are the women, especially the pretty brunette who plays Briesies -- though the young blond woman cast as Helen of Troy is not exactly displeasing to look upon either.
All in all, this a great film for Whites. Find time to see it if you haven't already.[/QUOTE]
2004-06-09 20:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Valley Forge] More to my liking, however, are the women, especially the pretty brunette who plays Briesies -- though the young blond woman cast as Helen of Troy is not exactly displeasing to look upon either. [/QUOTE] Oh yeah. [url=http://www.rampantchaos.net/rosebyrne/]Rose Byrne[/url] (Briseis), and [url=http://www.ifrance.com/dianemodel/]Diane Kruger[/url] (Helen) :wub:
2004-06-10 07:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Valley Forge]My wife and I saw it yesterday, and I agree it was a terrific film. I wasn't expecting much to be honest, and I ended up being pleasantly surprised. Very pleasantly surprised. Wolfgang Peterson did a terrific job.[/QUOTE]
The wife and I saw it, but it wasn't what Mrs. Yannis was expecting.
She was expecting a semi-horny date flick with Brad Pitt crushing heaving bosoms to his muscular chest (quote from Mrs. Yannis on the way to the flick - "Brad Pitt is so hot!") , and what she got instead was a real testosterone-laden bloodbath. A real guy flick.
I loved it, but Mrs. Yannis walked out after the first several killings. She shot me one of those "you ruined our one night out and now owe me big time" looks and left to do a little shopping instead as a down payment.
Chicks, man. Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
[QUOTE]Brad Pitt with his Olympian physique, sky blue eyes, and long blond mane looks like the second coming of Adonis in this movie -- as do the actors that play Patroclus, Paris, and Hector. More to my liking, however, are the women, especially the pretty brunette who plays Briesies -- though the young blond woman cast as Helen of Troy is not exactly displeasing to look upon either.[/QUOTE]
I agree generally, but didn't it seem to you that the Greeks were decidedly more Nordic looking that the Tojans? Hector, Paris, their sister all were Mediterranean types, at least that's how they struck me. They looked more like modern day Greeks than Brad Pitt. Of course, Peter O'Toole was an exception to that apparent casting decision, as was Hector's wife, if memory serves.
Walter
2004-06-10 15:14 | User Profile
Mean Girls belongs in that ever-present subset of movies which I've dubbed "Evil Blond" movies (or "Evil Blonde" if you prefer). Wicked blonds are everywhere in movies these days. I, Robot features a group of heroic nonwhites battling blue-eyed pale white robots and their blond David Duke-looking capitalist creator. Other recent Evil Blond movies include: Shrek 2 (Prince Charming) the Walking Tall remake Spiderman even the Lord of the Rings featured a blonde orc, for cryin' out loud.
Doubtless the next Spielberg WWII spectacular will feature Hitler with highlights in his hair. :D[/QUOTE] It's what people pay for, it's what they want to see. Wether or not the implications are true.
2004-06-23 06:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]The wife and I saw it, but it wasn't what Mrs. Yannis was expecting.
She was expecting a semi-horny date flick with Brad Pitt crushing heaving bosoms to his muscular chest (quote from Mrs. Yannis on the way to the flick - "Brad Pitt is so hot!") , and what she got instead was a real testosterone-laden bloodbath. A real guy flick.
I loved it, but Mrs. Yannis walked out after the first several killings. She shot me one of those "you ruined our one night out and now owe me big time" looks and left to do a little shopping instead as a down payment.
Chicks, man. Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.[/QUOTE]
I know what you mean.
A young couple next to me left early for the same reasons.
My present gf likes the battle scenes so I guess I am lucky. :yes:
As for Troy, I think it will make funeral pyres popular again.
I may have to check with my life insurance company. :thumbsup:
2004-06-27 23:05 | User Profile
I agree with those here who state that "Troy" the movie is not essentially a movie based on The Ilaid, but that it borrows heavily therefrom. I especially agree that the casting is the fantastic. No Morgan Freeman or Samuel L. Jackson thrown in for diversity's sake. Not even Omar Sharif!
Not only are the Gods not active players in the movie, men such as Achilles (Brad Pitt) mock them without reprisal. King Priam's soothsayer is shown to be a flake, with no grip on reality.
I have never thought much of Brad Pitt, and was not keen on his starring as Achilles. However, he is very convincing and does a more-than-credible job in this heavy role. Probably 70% of the audience in the theatre was female, and I did not notice people, male or female, leaving. Though, it was such a testorterone-laden experience that I wanted nothing more than to go to the gym at movies' end. 'Too bad it was after 11 pm!
All in all, one can find things to nit-pick over in "Troy." But considering Hollywood's normal fare, this film should at least make us glad that audiences are being exposed to movies about heroism and the history of the West. It's far preferable to "Dances With Wolves," no?