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2004-05-22 06:15 | User Profile
Are people keeping track of whats happening? This gets INTERESTING. The Jews got conned by Chalabi - hook, line and sinker!
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[font=Arial][size=4]Did Iranian Mullahs Hoax U.S. into Invading Iraq for Them?[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=2]Did Bush get conned into invading Iraq by the Ayatollah Khomeini's heirs in Tehran? Boy, if this is true, it will sure be a challenge to Rove to spin! If Bush did indeed fall for the Ayatollah's Posthumous Revenge on the Great Satan, Bush might not carry Texas. He might lose 538-0 in the Electoral College.[/size][/font]
[url="http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uschal0522,0,7406020,print.story?coll=ny-top-span-headlines"][font=Arial][size=2][color=#0000ff]Agency: Chalabi group was front for Iran[/color][/size][/font][/url]
[font=Arial][size=2]BY KNUT ROYCE WASHINGTON BUREAU[/size][/font]
[url="http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uschal0522,0,7406020,print.story?coll=ny-top-span-headlines"][font=Arial][size=2][color=#0000ff]Newsday[/color][/size][/font][/url]
[font=Arial][size=2]May 21, 2004, 7:29 PM EDT[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]WASHINGTON -- The Defense Intelligence Agency has concluded that a U.S.-funded arm of Ahmed Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress has been used for years by Iranian intelligence to pass disinformation to the United States and to collect highly sensitive American secrets, according to intelligence sources.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]"Iranian intelligence has been manipulating the United States through Chalabi by furnishing through his Information Collection Program information to provoke the United States into getting rid of Saddam Hussein," said an intelligence source Friday who was briefed on the Defense Intelligence Agency's conclusions, which were based on a review of thousands of internal documents.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]The Information Collection Program also "kept the Iranians informed about what we were doing" by passing classified U.S. documents and other sensitive information, he said. The program has received millions of dollars from the U.S. government over several years.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]An administration official confirmed that "highly classified information had been provided [to the Iranians] through that channel."[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]The Defense Department this week halted payment of $340,000 a month to Chalabi's program. Chalabi had long been the favorite of the Pentagon's civilian leadership. Intelligence sources say Chalabi himself has passed on sensitive U.S. intelligence to the Iranians.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]Patrick Lang, former director of the intelligence agency's Middle East branch, said he had been told by colleagues in the intelligence community that Chalabi's U.S.-funded program to provide information about weapons of mass destruction and insurgents was effectively an Iranian intelligence operation. "They [the Iranians] knew exactly what we were up to," he said.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]He described it as "one of the most sophisticated and successful intelligence operations in history."[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]"I'm a spook. I appreciate good work. This was good work," he said.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]An intelligence agency spokesman would not discuss questions about his agency's internal conclusions about the alleged Iranian operation. But he said some of its information had been helpful to the U.S. "Some of the information was great, especially as it pertained to arresting high value targets and on force protection issues," he said. "And some of the information wasn't so great."[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]At the center of the alleged Iranian intelligence operation, according to administration officials and intelligence sources, is Aras Karim Habib, a 47-year-old Shia Kurd who was named in an arrest warrant issued during a raid on Chalabi's home and offices in Baghdad Thursday. He eluded arrest.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=2]Karim, who sometimes goes by the last name of Habib, is in charge of the information collection program.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]The intelligence source briefed on the Defense Intelligence Agency's conclusions said that Karim's "fingerprints are all over it."[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]"There was an ongoing intelligence relationship between Karim and the Iranian Intelligence Ministry, all funded by the U.S. government, inadvertently," he said.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]The Iraqi National Congress has received about $40 million in U.S. funds over the past four years, including $33 million from the State Department and $6 million from the Defense Intelligence Agency.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]In Baghdad after the war, Karim's operation was run out of the fourth floor of a secure intelligence headquarters building, while the intelligence agency was on the floor above, according to an Iraqi source who knows Karim well.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]The links between the INC and U.S. intelligence go back to at least 1992, when Karim was picked by Chalabi to run his security and military operations.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]Indications that Iran, which fought a bloody war against Iraq during the 1980s, was trying to lure the U.S. into action against Saddam Hussein appeared many years before the Bush administration decided in 2001 that ousting Hussein was a national priority.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]In 1995, for instance, Khidhir Hamza, who had once worked in Iraq's nuclear program and whose claims that Iraq had continued a massive bomb program in the 1990s are now largely discredited, gave UN nuclear inspectors what appeared to be explosive documents about Iraq's program. Hamza, who fled Iraq in 1994, teamed up with Chalabi after his escape.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]The documents, which referred to results of experiments on enriched uranium in the bomb's core, were almost flawless, according to Andrew Cockburn's recent account of the event in the political newsletter CounterPunch.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]But the inspectors were troubled by one minor matter: Some of the techinical descriptions used terms that would only be used by an Iranian. They determined that the original copy had been written in Farsi by an Iranian scientist and then translated into Arabic.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]And the International Atomic Energy Agency concluded the documents were fraudulent.[/size][/font]
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[font=Arial][size=2]If this is true, what next? I guess they'll try to spin it: "Just because our hated enemies in Iran manipulated us into going to war doesn't mean we wouldn't have done it all on our own! Hmmhmm... Doesn't sound to good. If I was Karl Rove, I'd have focus groups scheduled for noon Saturday and stay up all night writing possible excuses to try out on them.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]Announcing the iSteve.com's Bush Pardon Pool! -- Just send me an email filling in the list of names in this upcoming wire service news story:[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]Washington D.C., January 19, 2005 (AP) -- On his last full day in office, outgoing President George W. Bush issued full Presidential pardons for the following figures implicated in the growing scandal over the origin and conduct of the Iraq War: ...[/size][/font]
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[font=Arial][size=2]Treason trial for Feith? A reader writes:[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]"That seems a little much, Steve. No one really thinks Feith et al deliberately sold out America's interests for Israel's interests. At the worst, you can accuse them of forgetting that American interests and Israeli interests are not necessarily identical. But if they weren't actually passing secrets to Israel, or acting on orders from Israel, or something like that, I think using the word "treason" is hyperbole."[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]I never said Feith should be convicted of treason. I just pointed out how much I would enjoy seeing him tried for treason.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]Still, I'm most interested in this question: From whom did Ahmed Chalabi get the top secret American information that he passed on to the Iranian government? Was it through official channels? Or was it leaked to him by his friends in Washington? Or, did his friends in Washington get themselves designated official channels for the purpose of giving him top secret information?[/size][/font]
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[font=Arial][size=2]Good morning! How did you sleep? [/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2]I bet you slept a lot more soundly than certain neocons, who may have spent the night thrashing about, wondering what American officials in Baghdad are finding out about them in the files seized from Ahmed Chalabi. [/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]There have always been only three main theories for why so many influential neocons sold out America to Chalabi.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]1. They are fools. Machiavelli offered this advice in his Discourses' Chapter XXXI, which is entitled "[url="http://www.geocities.com/machiaveli_1469/book2.htm"][color=#0000ff]How Dangerous it Is to Believe Exiles[/color][/url]:"[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]"As to [the exiles'] vain hopes and promises, such is the extreme desire in them to return home, that they naturally believe many things that are false and add many others by art, so that between those they believe and those they say they believe, they fill you with hope, so that relying on them you will incur expenses in vain, or you undertake an enterprise in which you ruin yourself."[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]Well, that sure sums up the bill of goods Chalabi sold America.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]"How vain are the faith and promises of those who find themselves deprived of their country. For, as to their faith, it has to be borne in mind that anytime they can return to their country by other means than yours, they will leave you and look to the other, notwithstanding whatever promises they had made you." [/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]And that explains why Chalabi has been passing American secrets on to our good buddies, the mullahs in Tehran.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]You don't get sent to prison for sincerely believing nonsense, however. Developing a big fat wet crush on Chalabi and/or subscribing to the ridiculous neocon ideology is not a criminal offense. So, the neocons must be hoping that Chalabi's files include lots of cackling over how he has duped those naive, trusting morons in D.C. and NYC. In Feith's case, I particularly looking forward to his defense attorneys calling as a witness Gen. Tommy Franks and asking him to repeat his assessment of Feith's intelligence: "the f***ing stupidest guy on the face of the earth."[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]Embarrassing, yes, convictable, no.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]2. Chalabi bought them. You can buy intellectuals and apparatchiks cheap -- just invite them to speak at some impressive-sounding conferences at fancy hotels. There's nothing illegal about that. But, perhaps Chalabi spent some of his cash more, uh, directly? We may find out.[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]3. They did it for Israel. John Dizard reported in "[url="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/05/04/chalabi/index.html"][color=#0000ff]How Ahmed Chalabi Conned the Neocons[/color][/url]" in Salon:[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]"Ahmed Chalabi is a treacherous, spineless turncoat," says L. Marc Zell, a former law partner of Douglas Feith, now the undersecretary of defense for policy, and a former friend and supporter of Chalabi and his aspirations to lead Iraq. "He had one set of friends before he was in power, and now he's got another." [/size][/font]... [font=Arial][size=2]Zell, a Jerusalem attorney, continues to be a partner in the firm that Feith left in 2001 to take the Pentagon job. He also helped Ahmed Chalabi's nephew Salem set up a new law office in Baghdad in late 2003... Zell outlines what Chalabi was promising the neocons before the Iraq war: "He said he would end Iraq's boycott of trade with Israel, and would allow Israeli companies to do business there. He said [the new Iraqi government] would agree to rebuild the pipeline from Mosul [in the northern Iraqi oil fields] to Haifa [the Israeli port, and the location of a major refinery]."[/size][/font]
[font=Arial][size=2]Presumably, Feith could defend himself by saying that all the disasters he has inflicted on America (here's Slate's list in an article entitled, "[url="http://slate.msn.com/id/2100899/"][color=#800080]What has the Pentagon's third man done wrong? Everything[/color][/url]") were due to his truly believing that what was good for Israel was also somehow good for America. That may be a perfectly valid defense and I hope he tries it out when he's put on trial for high treason.[/size][/font]
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2004-05-22 12:55 | User Profile
No, it wasn't "Iranian Mullahs"; it was just jews and F--- em in the A--Republicans using Chalabi WITH Iran. Lets keep the focus on the fockers. This is the S.O.S..
Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, the rest -- are all part of the general Office of Special Plans plan for the Middle East region nobody talked about until we were already into Iraq so heavy it was impossible to pull out.
Its the same anal rape Republicans and suicide bomb baby baiters now trying to bring in Iranian Mullahs. Anything to bring hate to somebody besides themselves, who deserve what they gave out in Abu Ghraib, may they have their reward soon.
2004-05-22 21:04 | User Profile
I do not buy the "Oh poor us, we were sold a bill of goods" line of baloney. These shameless bastards would have used WWII propaganda from Josef Goebbles or Julius Streitcher if it would have helped their cause; what ever advances the agenda of the tribe.
Gen. Zinni: 'They've Screwed Up' May 21, 2004
Accusing top Pentagon officials of "dereliction of duty," retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni says staying the course in Iraq isn't a reasonable option.
"The course is headed over Niagara Falls. I think it's time to change course a little bit or at least hold somebody responsible for putting you on this course," he tells CBS News Correspondent Steve Kroft in an interview to be broadcast on 60 Minutes, Sunday, May 23, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
The current situation in Iraq was destined to happen, says Zinni, because planning for the war and its aftermath has been flawed all along.
"There has been poor strategic thinking in this...poor operational planning and execution on the ground," says Zinni, who served as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Central Command from 1997 to 2000.
Zinni blames the poor planning on the civilian policymakers in the administration, known as neo-conservatives, who saw the invasion as a way to stabilize the region and support Israel. He believes these people, who include Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, the undersecretary of defense, have hijacked U.S. foreign policy.
"They promoted it and pushed [the war]... even to the point of creating their own intelligence to match their needs. Then they should bear the responsibility," Zinni tells Kroft.
In his upcoming book, "Battle Ready," written with Tom Clancy, Zinni writes of the poor planning in harsh terms. "In the lead-up to the Iraq war and its later conduct, I saw, at minimum, true dereliction, negligence and irresponsibility; at worst, lying, incompetence and corruption," he writes.
Zinni explains to Kroft, "I think there was dereliction in insufficient forces being put on the ground and [in not] fully understanding the military dimensions of the plan."
He still believes the situation is salvageable if the United States can communicate more effectively with the Iraqi people and demonstrate a better image to them.
The enlistment of the U.N. and other countries to participate in the mission is also crucial, he says. Without these things, says Zinni, "We are going to be looking for quick exits. I don't believe we're there now, and I wouldn't want to see us fail here."
Also central to success in Iraq is more troops, from the United States and especially other countries, to control violence and patrol borders, he says.
Zinni feels that undertaking the war with the minimum of troops paved the way for the security problems the U.S. faces there now, the violence Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld recently admitted he hadn't anticipated.
"He should not have been surprised," says Zinni. "There were a number of people who before we even engaged in this conflict felt strongly that we underestimated...the scope of the problems we would have in [Iraq]."
The fact that no one in the administration has paid for the blunder irks Zinni. "But regardless of whose responsibility [it is]...it should be evident to everybody that they've screwed up, and whose heads are rolling on this?"
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