← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Feric Jaggar
Thread ID: 13677 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2004-05-13
2004-05-13 14:53 | User Profile
In previous wars the criticism was that we were too hard on our enemies, dehumanizing them. If Lynndie England is any example of the modern zeitgeist, then times have changed. It's not a necklace of ears that characterizes our view of the Other. Now we spread our legs for them.
[url]http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/20802.htm[/url]
What kind of society do we have when a white WVa woman will spread her legs for the vanquished enemy? Granted, she may be a particular case but what does this say about how white women are taught to view themselves and sex in the West? We know how the Muslim's would treat us.
Nick Berg didn't get sex from some be-sheeted Muslim chick he got decapitated. Personally, I prefer we'd go back to wearing ear necklaces to this kind of sickness.
2004-05-13 19:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Feric Jaggar]In previous wars the criticism was that we were too hard on our enemies, dehumanizing them. If Lynndie England is any example of the modern zeitgeist, then times have changed. It's not a necklace of ears that characterizes our view of the Other. Now we spread our legs for them. [url="http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/20802.htm"]http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/20802.htm[/url] What kind of society do we have when a white WVa woman will spread her legs for the vanquished enemy? Granted, she may be a particular case but what does this say about how white women are taught to view themselves and sex in the West? We know how the Muslim's would treat us. Nick Berg didn't get sex from some be-sheeted Muslim chick he got decapitated. Personally, I prefer we'd go back to wearing ear necklaces to this kind of sickness.[/QUOTE] Youve got that absolutely right. A lot of people have been wasting time on how the Iraqis were "tortured". We dont know the definition of "torture".
How would the Soviets or the Japanese engage in torture? There wouldnt be too many rebels left in Iraq by now.
In this lies the Jews' greatest conundrum. For a century they have waged war against Gentile culture in America. They destroyed it. Now theyve wound up ruling a nation where most men dont even have a conception of what it means to fight - multiculturalism was a great tool in destroying the WASPs and taking over the Universities, but its useless now that you have a war on.
Lets make no mistake about it. Ruling the Arabs has never been that difficult if one is willing to get down to business. The British and the French ruled good chunks of the middle east for a while without a great deal of difficultly. Churchill even ordered poison gas to be used against the Kurds once.
But going back to methods of fighting an "insurgency", Id say the Imperial Japanese of World War II fame would teach these pansies a thing or two about War.
2004-05-13 19:33 | User Profile
Torture photos at Abu Gharib featuring a White woman who happens to come from trailer park country in Virginia.
Mr. Berg is decapitated.
Oh, by the way lest the Sheep get too distracted by the Hollywood stunts in Iraq...... [B]34 Dead American Soldiers so far for the month of May[/B]: [url]http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx[/url]
2004-05-13 19:57 | User Profile
I think we should keep in mind that at least two Iraqi prisoner deaths at Abu Graib have been officially classified as homicides. In this light, the execution of Mr Berg is not really more barbaric than what some of our soldiers and "contractors" have already been doing. The Army investigation has also estimated that approximately 70% of the prisoners in the prison were detained as a precautionary measure, so its not like these people are all hardcore terrorists. My point is that I think the mistreatment of these prisoners is certainly wrong, and that it should not be minimized. The sexual humiliation and overall sexual tone of the violence is also disturbing, and it indicates how decadent and depraved our culture has become. I am not saying that all these prisoners are innocent darlings, and I am not saying they should have access to a weight room and cable tv. However, Christianity and Western Civilization should dictate that we find the mistreatment of these prisoners unacceptable.
2004-05-13 20:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]I think we should keep in mind that at least two Iraqi prisoner deaths at Abu Graib have been officially classified as homicides. In this light, the execution of Mr Berg is not really more barbaric than what some of our soldiers and "contractors" have already been doing. The Army investigation has also estimated that approximately 70% of the prisoners in the prison were detained as a precautionary measure, so its not like these people are all hardcore terrorists. My point is that I think the mistreatment of these prisoners is certainly wrong, and that it should not be minimized. The sexual humiliation and overall sexual tone of the violence is also disturbing, and it indicates how decadent and depraved our culture has become. I am not saying that all these prisoners are innocent darlings, and I am not saying they should have access to a weight room and cable tv. However, Christianity and Western Civilization should dictate that we find the mistreatment of these prisoners unacceptable.[/QUOTE]I am not arguing for more torture or that the war is moral. Or that torture is right - or that the Prisoners deserve more violence.
All Im trying to point out is the stupidity of it. Stripping people naked and so on and make them bugger each other. Thats not torture. Maybe humiliation but not torture.
Also, as for American war deaths, Imperialism doesnt come cheap. The British Empire lost 6-8 men DAILY for more than a century. Empires dont just cost money, they cost blood. These chicken hawks (as yanks lovingly refer to the "brave" redblooded American men like Wofowitz and Kristol) ought to have known better.
What Ive been trying to point out is how idiotic the whole situation is. On the one hand you have the US Army with the finest weapons in the history of mankind unable to control a nation of Arab rabble - and lets not glorify these people too much. They are basically a rabble. Well armed yes, but a rabble nonetheless. A proper Army like the German Army of WWII would pacify the place in no time. Do you seriously doubt that?
This is also another reason why the Israelis will get the boot from the middle east finally. Theres a way to fight and theres a way to lose. Avoid war by all means, but if you have to fight it, atleast fight it well for God's sake. This is a joke.