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2004-05-11 13:56 | User Profile
CIA ordered abuses at Abu Gharib prison in Iraq
[QUOTE]Military intelligence and the CIA ordered abuses at Abu Gharib prison
by Paul Walker May 3, 2004
"My vision of a New World Order forsees a U.N. with a revitalized peacekeeping function. It is the sacred principles enshrined in the U.N. Charter to which we henceforth pledge our allegiance." - President George Bush, ex-CIA director, Knights of Malta, Skull & Bones, Trilateral Commission, addressing the General Assembly of the U.N.,February 1,1992.
"The Bush Administration, would like to make the U.N. a cornerstone of its plans to construct a New World Order."
The Persian Gulf crisis is a rare opportunity to forge new bonds with old enemies [the Soviet Union]...Out of these troubled times a New World Order can emerge under a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders." - President George H. W. Bush in a speech to Congress on SEPTEMBER 11, 1990, exactly 11 years before Operation 9/11...
"What is at stake is more than one small country [Iraq], it is a big idea - a New World Order." - George HW Bush, January 29, 1991, State of the Union address "I hope history will record that the Gulf crisis was the crucible of the New World Order." - National Security Strategy issued by the White house and personally signed by George Bush, Sr. Aftermath News Service Special Report - May 2, 2004 ___________SSodomizing female prisoners, documented on camera, is not to "extract information". It was ordered and condoned by the intelligence agencies, not only to defile and humiliate the prisoners--and defile the soldiers themselves--but engineered to severely tarnish the reputation of America (even more than it already was) with the help of 60 Minutes, the general media and all involved in now suddenly exposing it.
Torture has been exposed in Guantanamo Bay for over 2 years now. Torture and other abuses of prisoners in Iraq by coalition forces has been known for over a year since the invasion. Yet, all have been downplayed by the mainstream media. Until now. Why? Think about it.
In other words, this latest round of abuse was all staged and meticulously documented, and now heavily hyped in the media as part of the overall plan to make America into the Bad Cop Evil Empire which will have to be brought down to heel by the global system Good Cops.
Hegelian Bonesman heirarch, George Bush Sr stated that Iraq was the "Crucible of the New World Order", the vessel wherein the alchemical process of creating a world government tyranny under the thoroughly corrupt UN would occur. The whole mess there is called "Managed Chaos" or Order Out of Chaos, ie, the masonic Ordo Ab Chao. A set up. A totally staged event.
They create the Hegelian crisis to divide and conquer populations and then offer their pre-conceived "solutions". Even the war crimes going down as we watch them unfold are engineered, designed, condoned and even ordered by the intelligence agencies...to damage the reputation of this great country of ours, to foment the Arab world for WWIII and drag to us through the mud internationally in order to bring us down and make us the bad guys, the Evil Empire--SO THAT--so that the "International Community", ie the UN World Government can step in as the savior and be the good guys to "save the day" and thenceforth America will become just another province of the global neo-feudal system just as Nazi Germany became absorbed in the new European Community, and now the vastly expanding EU Soviet.
Got that?
So THIS is Bush's true agenda, as well as Kofi Annan's and all the other globalists as well. This is essentially how American might and resources are being used to spearhead the globalist agenda worldwide, but to end up by being swallowed up in it, spread thin, corrupted, destroyed and assimilated itself.
This globalist bait-and-switch, more than oil or juicy contracts or "Pax Americana", is at the root of it all. But even deeper down the rabbit hole, you will find a masonic occult agenda behind all of it to create the worldwide satanic system of mind-control, for the globalists to set themselves up as living gods ruling over the slave drones serving the New World Order in a global Big Brother high-tech "Hive Mind" police-state system which we see rapidly unfolding in the Trialteralist regions of Europe, Asia and in the Americas.
Unless...we wake up to these Hegelian machinations--which I do not see happening anytime soon.
Too many people are too brainwashed by either the Right or the Left sides of the false paradigm, or too stupid to see, or too morally bankrupt to care. I do hope this horrible state of affairs will change for the better. I myself will keep hoping and keep fighting for the truth till the very end.
Paul Walker
Agence France Presse - May 2, 2004
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More stuff: [QUOTE] Israeli Torture and U.S. Complicity Zoroaster writes " Israeli Torture and U.S. Complicity
Mid-East Realities - MER - [url]www.MiddleEast.Org[/url] - 6 May 2004
The U.S. and Israel have been torture interconnected in the Middle East for quite a long time. Those now infamous hoods -- finally infamous because of the dramatic pictures from a U.S.-run prison in Iraq -- have long been used by the Israelis in prisons where Palestinians are treated far worse but the world has looked the other way for decades now. Indeed Israeli 'training' of Americans to 'deal with the Arabs' may well be the secret so-far untold aspect of today's 'torture scandal' now dominating today's headlines. TortureGate now dominates Washington and has the potential to threaten the Bush Presidency as the Monica scandal affected Clinton's.
The top Pentagon civilian officials -- Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith -- both Jewish and both known for their extremely close relationships with top officials in Israel and the Zionist movement, are believed to have personally authorized clandestine Mossad officials to be in Iraq working closely with U.S. military intelligence. Something similar is believed to have been secretly authorized by the head of the CIA, George Tenet... "
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2004-05-11 21:26 | User Profile
"CIA ordered abuses at Abu Gharib prison in Iraq."
No it didn't.
Whatever else happened in the prison camps in Iraq, the origin of the pictures that actually broke the story all around the world was staged to shame America by Jews and helpers; the rest have been blindsided.
That, at least, is what the preponderance of evidence so far indicates. Until refuted, which would be possible by actually putting the England girl, or even Frederick - or Savitts -- anyone -- on the stand under oath, with freedom to tell what they know. That is exactly what the Jewpublican Bush supporters will not, and cannot allow to happen, isn't it. Just like the sniper "shoot -'em-in-the back" Jewpublican '02 election campaign strategy. Works everytime. Public loves that shdit. Just strap 'em down, hang some panties over their heads, and, wallah! you got the Vietnam - Contra United States military machine right there! Add in Lynne England doing a thumbs up, now.
Oh, won't the Pentagon and the Prezident please let us see the pictures? Please? Pretty please with sugar on it? Maybe Rumpsfeld's wang flashed on Al Zazeera, at least?
A little porno movie made to shame Americans -- it doesn't take much; just put McCafferty on TV -- put on and put out by neocon Jew porno meistersm, and the Republicans praying with Horowitzas .
The same pornographic psychotic mentality always shows itself in incidents like this. There goes Imhofe, killing Oklahoma City again, "more outraged by the outrage" than by the acts themselves... somebody gave thim the double-reverse sign. transl. "You ain't shaming my ass, you liberal towelheads... Nobody does that." Yeah. nobody could.
First thing out of Bush's mouth on seeing the pics? ""Thats not what Americans are." Wonder why he said that? Ans. Because it is -- his kind. He knew it, he knew everyone else knew it, and the Freudian mechanism is called "reaction formation". Just say "No" when it's true you. ("No! No! I don't want to kill you, Daddy! No! No!")
Not that the CIA wouldn't do it -- remember Danny Boy Pearl, surely their deft touch on that one. And, sure, it COULD have been the CIA, and Bush automatically chiming "That's not America", since they do to lie and lie to do and he does both out of both ends of his body anyway -- they no doubt set up the Kurd kaibosh in '96/7 that Saddam Hussein crushed, and got us into this war -- and backed the neocons and Chalabi, up until mid-April. But that's all come apart. It's all over now, Baby blue. This is the work of the anti-CIA, pro Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle. Cheney boys.
2004-05-12 03:29 | User Profile
TexasAnarch,
Why attack me, I did write these article. I only posted them to the Current Events Forum. I re-post the first article because Sertorius asked me too. I see no reason why you should be upset with me, I did not do anything.
[QUOTE]Faust, I'm Sorry, somehow I delete the thread you put up with the story about that prison when I was posting a reply. I have no idea how that happen. Something is screwed up here, to put it politely. Sertorius [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Faust, Jason tried to recover that thread. Unfortunately, while a record of it shows up, he can't get to it. Once again, sorry about that. It was a good thread. Why not repost the original article? Sertorius[/QUOTE]
If you disagre with something or something to add then post it. I am sorry the replies from the old thread were lost, but I had nothing to do with that.
2004-05-13 01:51 | User Profile
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The new Mt. Surabachi, Abu Gharib.
2004-05-13 04:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]TexasAnarch,
Why attack me... I did not do anything....
If you disagre with something or something to add then post it. but I had nothing to do with that.[/QUOTE]
You typed in a reiteration of what is inconsistent with, therefore can only be taken as a witting or unwitting cover up of, a critical point in the situation.
The CIA's hand may lie on the process (Tagubas's "OGA"), but of immediate relevance is the identity of Lynd English's superiors. -- whether and how connected to "John Israel", which is a definite link the media could follow, if they could get beyond Senatorial sobbing and stobbing (alternately), and do a little investigative reporting.
While they were at it, any connections between said superiors and Stephen Carbone could be explored for the public. Of him, today's NY Times'editorial writes: "The senators called one witness for the morning session...Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who ran the Army's major investigation into Abu Ghraib. But the Defense Departrment also sent Stephen Cambone, the under secretary of defense for intelligence, to upstage him".
He is the one who would have had to approve any unusual interrogation procedures, such as filming filth. He was one of Bush's first appointments:
Cambone
[url]http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/04/20010423-15.html[/url]
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
April 23, 2001
President Bush to Nominate Four Individuals to Serve in His Administration
President George W. Bush today announced his intention to nominate four individuals to serve in his administration.
The President intends to nominate Donald J. McConnell to be Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the United States to the State of Eritreaââ¬Â¦.
The President intends to nominate Stephen A. Cambone to be Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. Most recently he served as Staff Director for the Commission to Assess U.S. National Security Space Management and Organization while also serving as the Director of Research for the Institute for National Strategic Studies at the National Defense University. Cambone held the position of staff director for the Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States in 1998 and was a Senior Fellow of Political-Military Studies at the Center for Strategic and International Studies from 1993 to 1998. He is a graduate of the Catholic University and received both a Master's and Ph.D. from Claremont Graduate School.
The President intends to nominate Donald Cameron Findlay to be Deputy Secretary of Labor
The President intends to nominate Lori A. Forman to be Assistant Administrator for the United States Agency for International Development for Asia and the Near East. "
This would be a specific faction to keep in focus: nominally anti-State Dept. and CIA (to the extent they coincide here, as UN's Bramani takes over, I guess), and pro-Chalabi, neocon associates.
How deep thev latter have their hooks into Bush is shown by the way this Berg thing blindsided them, again. For his own good. To help staunch the bleeding, put him in the high moral ground position of swearing righteous vengence on barbaric, inhuman perpetrators of crimes like that, meanwhile escalating military action no one understands any end or purpose of, except to get out with "honor". yeah (I do not put you in this corner except as obfuscating by unfocused iteration.)
There is also the question of links between Nick Berg's killers -- "Islamic dxtremists", or "militants", they were saying; they've got a tape allegedly by someone named Abu Zawarhi (sp) -- the FBI, the Iraqi police that captured him, and the considerable network of people in Washington, D.C. who have been responsive to his situation (incl. Leiberman, Santorum, Spectre, someone with the authority to put a U.S. jet at Nick's service to fly him home. He declined to be deterred from good-doing. Road to the airport was too dangerous, his Dad said he said. But as soon as he is let go (April 9, last heard from; but checked out of his hotel the 10th), he disappears. Family files suit claiming the detainment was responsible for his death. Jewish kid taking a late night taxi drive around Mosul March 26 looking for work -- got to be kidding, right? Nope. On the square. Just flat out disappears, only to show up later, in time to neutralize rapidly building hatred of U.S. and Israel. But this is not CIA either.
Now, what we are saying here must be heard. The time for compromise has past, to the point where wavering befronts emptiness. If you're lying, you're dying (whoever you may be.)
(This doesn't mean I am in bed with Hegelian Bonesmen.)