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il ragno [OP]

2004-05-02 22:05 | User Profile

[I]We have met The Great Satan....and it is us![/I]

[url]http://www.vdare.com/roberts/torture.htm[/url]

[B]The Great Satan[/B] By Paul Craig Roberts

The current issue of National Review advocates that the US adopt Saddam Hussein’s policies toward Iraqis. Nothing less will subdue them, says the conservative publication. To beat them, National Review says, we must become like them.

No sooner said than done. The US has appointed Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guard General, Jasim Muhammed Saleh to deal with the Fallajuh insurgency. And, judging from news reports and photographs of tortured Iraqis, the US has put Saddam Hussein himself back in charge of the notorious prison, Abu Ghraib.

US prestige will never recover from the photos of Americans abusing Iraqi detainees. With no Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, with no terrorist link between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, President Bush’s last remaining excuse for his invasion of Iraq was his boast that the torture prisons have been closed.

In his war propaganda, President Bush portrays America as a morally superior country whose innate virtue is the reason we are in Iraq. America alone is willing to tax its citizens and send its sons to die in order to bring freedom and democracy to other lands. Bush describes our mission as one in which our troops are dying and we are spending hundreds of billions of dollars not to acquire a colony or to control the oil, but to liberate Iraqi women and to make Iraqis safe from torture.

With the US now guilty of war crimes as defined by Article 3 of the Geneva Convention, our sanctimonious president will never again be able to wear American virtue on his sleeve without the entire world laughing in his face.

The US military is making a big show of dealing with the Saddam Hussein imitators in its ranks, but the sickening fact is that both the US government and the American media sat on the story for one month, keeping it a secret until the photos began circulating independently.

The neocons, whose war this is, were quick to say that the US should be judged by what it proclaims, not by what it does. What’s a little torture after all, compared to building freedom and democracy?

It was ten minutes into the news hour on the day the story broke before the Ministry of Propaganda, a.k.a. Fox News, could bring itself to mention, fleetingly, the torture story. Americans who rely on Fox News for their understanding of the war must be scratching their heads.

By showing the true nature of the US occupation, the photos may have broken the rush to wider war and the return to military conscription. Polls released at the end of April show that a majority of Americans had soured on the war prior to the torture story. The photograhic evidence that US troops are committing atrocities will further reduce support for the war.

The impact on the Muslim world will be different. For decades extremists have called the US “the Great Satan.” The US invasion and violent occupation of Iraq have given credibility to this characterization of America. Our Middle Eastern puppets are sending us frantic signals that unprecedented hatred of America is endangering the stability of their countries. One thing is certain: the photographs showing a female US soldier laughing at the sexual humiliation of Muslim men will not make Americans safer.

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MacDonald CSA

2004-05-03 01:28 | User Profile

[SIZE=5]Name The JEWS![/SIZE]


Ruffin

2004-05-03 01:44 | User Profile

"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~ Don Marquis


darkstar

2004-05-03 02:13 | User Profile

Craig claims that the Arabs are going ape-shit over these pics. I am sure that is correct in some sense, but do we have any hard data on supposed 'instability' coming from this incident? Are the Arabs really going to be much concerned with this a year from now? I have no idea. I don't understand how they think. In fact, what occurred is 'physical torture' only under a rather broad definition, but perhaps this kind of humiliation is in the Arab street.

It looks like our troopers were reliving the days of British colonialism, spliced up with new, Hollywood-derived views on the relative acceptability of S+M parties and the like. I doubt very much that they would have done this sort of thing to, say, white South Africans. I wonder if the Arabs might buckle under a bit under the threat of American, racist nastiness?

Well, I am trying to look for some silver lining here. It's hard to find, because Arabs seem both like humiliation-hounds and great respecters of sheer power. Also, I am not sure how racial animosity will play out here. Might it spill over to Europe, with an attending anti-Muslim backlash?

Really, it is so pitiful that the course of history can be even mildly affected by such grotesquries. I am sure this sort of stuff has gone on for ever and ever, but the digital age changes everything. Too bad the Arabs aren't as inured to digital images as West and East Coasters are.


il ragno

2004-05-03 02:47 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Are the Arabs really going to be much concerned with this a year from now? I have no idea.[/QUOTE]

Oh, victors torturing the vanquished is as old as time itself, sad as that is to say.

That's not what makes the bile rise in my throat. It's that the USA is now the IDF; same tactics, same victims. Except we've become the IDF for no discernible reason relating to national security or integrity of our borders. We're the hired muscle from out West brought in by the Sharon Mob to do a dirty, shitty job on their behalf.

And I think the fact that prisoner 'interrogations' would be attended by - or worse, [I]presided over [/I] - by $#@!*& women would make [I]any [/I] normal person vomit. There is a natural order to things - and a dyke in fatigues laughing as naked men have their genitals burned is in direct violation of that natural order, Geneva convention or no Geneva convention


darkstar

2004-05-03 03:13 | User Profile

Surely white girls humiliating Arabs is in keeping with the natural order -- even as the whole episode, women created or not, is obviously rather moving toward the 'unnatural'?