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Thread ID: 13462 | Posts: 3 | Started: 2004-04-30
2004-04-30 15:17 | User Profile
[url]http://www.rense.com/general52/bros.htm[/url] Count 80% Of The U.S. Election -Using BOTH Scanners & Touchscreens By Lynn Landes 4-27-4
Voters can run, but they can't hide from these guys. Meet the Urosevich brothers, Bob and Todd. Their respective companies, Diebold and ES&S, will count (using BOTH computerized ballot scanners and touchscreen machines) about 80% of all votes cast in the upcoming U.S. presidential election.
Both ES&S and Diebold have been caught installing uncertified software .................. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [url]http://tinyurl.com/3enqj[/url]
Note some of the names:
Mark Radke, a Diebold executive, ..........
Aviel D. Rubin, a computer security ..............
Michael Wertheimer, a security expert ...................
They were basically asking to be hacked," said Jeff Stutzman, CEO of .............
Diebold Election Systems' webmaster Joshua Gardner announced ..
Ohio GOP spokesman Jason Mauk said ..................
Company spokesman Mike Jacobsen, who ...............
Listen, for example, to Avi Rubin, a computer-security expert .....
Wendy Seltzer, an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, ........... Etc...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your vote counts? Depends on who counts the votes.
Ed Toner
2004-04-30 18:48 | User Profile
Electronic voting is ridiculously open to fraud and abuse, especially since the software the machines use is proprietary and closed-source. Since the software is the company's "intellectual property," there is no way to examine it to make sure that it isn't changing every fifth vote for Buchanan to a vote for Bush, for example. To remedy this, politicians want the electronic voting machines to produce a paper trail. What is the point? If you want a paper trail, then just stick with paper voting, which intrinsically creates a paper trail.
2004-04-30 19:34 | User Profile
Plug the names Jim Conndit or James Collier along with the word votefraud into any good search engine and you should get enough info to scare the bejeebers out of yourself.
As one famous tyrant has been quoted: "Those who vote decide nothing, Those who count the votes decide everything." - Josef Stalin