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Thread ID: 13324 | Posts: 9 | Started: 2004-04-25
2004-04-25 03:24 | User Profile
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The political scum is oozing over this one .. HOW DARE THEY ! We are YOUR LEADERS !!! The fact that the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church DENIES John Kerry to recieve Communion for allowing murder ? OMG ! Whats America coming to if our Politicians cannot sway a 2,000 year old institution ?? Who do they think THEY ARE !! lol perhaps Kerry should give up the Boston vote, he's national now yeah .. find a church you can sway, you bag of bones ...
2004-04-25 06:28 | User Profile
The Archdiocese of Boston just defied Rome and gave him Communion.
[QUOTE]The Archdiocese of Boston "does not hold to the practice of publicly refusing Communion to anyone," said archdiocese spokesman Rev. Christopher Coyne. [B]He said it was up to the individual to decide whether to receive Communion. [/B] [/QUOTE]
Note that it's all up to the individual. The Modernist infiltration is complete.
Not that I expect our pussified Curia to do anything about it. These are the same Castratti who let the faggots in the Boston Diocese molest boys for decades without so much as lifting a finger. Christian charity is inseparable from Christian justice, and thus Christian charity dictates that we see their heads on a spike. All of them.
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Walter
Kerry Takes Communion After Vatican Edict Sat Apr 24,10:59 PM ET
By JENNIFER PETER, Associated Press Writer
BOSTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) received communion from a Catholic priest Saturday, one day after a top Vatican (news - web sites) cardinal said politicians who support abortion rights should be denied the Eucharist.
Kerry took communion during the 6 p.m. mass at Boston's Paulist Center, where campaign spokesman David Wade said the candidate regularly worships. The church is close to the Beacon Hill home Kerry shares with his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry.
"We're following the directive of our archdiocese," said Father Joe Ciccone, who gave Kerry the Eucharist. "They have said we should give him communion."
The Paulist Center attracts Catholics uncomfortable with some of the Vatican's orthodox teachings or who otherwise feel alienated from the Roman Catholic Church.
The congregation includes gay couples, whose adopted children are baptized there, unlike in some other Boston parishes. In November, its leaders refused to read aloud during Mass from a letter opposing gay marriage, as requested by the Massachusetts bishops.
The congregation is not geographical, but ideological, drawing people from as far as away as New Hampshire, said Drew Deskur, the center's music director and a parishioner for 25 years.
"It's not St. Around-the-Corner," Deskur said. "It's an intentional community that draws people from all over Boston. It tries to make sure that everyone feels welcome and that everyone participates in the liturgy."
The Archdiocese of Boston "does not hold to the practice of publicly refusing Communion to anyone," said archdiocese spokesman Rev. Christopher Coyne. [B]He said it was up to the individual to decide whether to receive Communion. [/B]
In the days before Kerry attended Easter Mass at the Paulist Center, staff members received threatening phone calls and e-mails from Catholics who believed the senator should be denied Communion.
Coyne said he also received many letters and angry calls from concerned Catholics about Kerry's ability to take Communion. He said he contacted the Paulist Center ahead of time to ensure there would be no problem when the senator received the Eucharist.
The chapel celebrates Mass and can conduct every sacrament except marriage.
The center does not resemble a traditional church, but is housed among a row of brownstones. A band plays during worship, and the lyrics are projected onto the wall above the pulpit so parishioners can sing along.
Kerry joined in the singing from his pew near the back Saturday night. His wife was out of town, so he attended alone with several reporters and staff in tow.
Founded in 1970, the church is located within the Archdiocese of Boston and operates with the permission of the bishop. The center, however, is financially independent and has a history of reaching out to marginalized Catholics.
The Paulist Center began a support group for divorced Catholics that has since been replicated in churches across the country. The center also hosts a group for bisexual, gay and lesbian Catholics, as well as a program for lapsed Catholics who are considering a return to the flock.
The center helped launch the Walk for Hunger, a now annual fund-raiser for soup kitchens across the region, and has held funeral Masses for homeless people who die without family or loved ones.
Associated Press Writer Nedra Pickler also contributed to this report.
2004-04-28 03:32 | User Profile
That Father Ciccone is not in league with the Arch Bishop and as a matter of fact The Eucharist Kerry recieved is not oficially granted true relevance, Kerry had to run around and pull strings and get an alternative Eucharist.. Don't tell me the Church isn't making a stand. Kerry is FORBIDDEN to recieve TRUE Eucharist and that Priest's Eucharist is not REAL because the Holy See does not condone it .. He did NOT receive the Eucharist. No Priest has the Authority to give the Eucharist but through the Holy See. He chomped on a wafer, and whatever that priest says does not matter because if it is not blessed by the Pope it is not the real body and blood of Jesus Christ. Thats a FACT.
2004-04-28 03:41 | User Profile
" The Archdiocese of Boston "does not hold to the practice of publicly refusing Communion to anyone," said archdiocese spokesman Rev. Christopher Coyne. He said it was up to the individual to decide whether to receive Communion. " TOTALLY WRONG. That man is no longer a Priest in the Church. Literally. He is ex communicated. Just another example of how the press twists reality to its advantage. THe TRUE bishop Mulvee and the Vatican INSIST that Kerry CANNOT recieve True Holy Communion, leave it to the press and the demo-scum to dig up ex communicated priests. This is not right. According the the order by the Arch Bishop, ANY American poilitician who is " pro-choice " CANNOT recieve Holy Communion !!!! He did not recieve Holy Communion !!!! Take it to the Pope. The Vatican is the relegator of Christian truth and dogma, not some political slimeball . There is no dissention in the Church. Those people are already ex-communicated and are not part of the Church. Their unholy Eucharist is meaningless.
2004-04-28 03:52 | User Profile
If you think I am just spewing ask me and I will give you a phone number to call and you can hear it from the Church's mouth that it DOES NOT grant its Eucharist to unrepentant pro-choice candidates !! Ask me for the number, you make the call !!!
2004-04-28 05:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Exelsis_Deo]That Father Ciccone is not in league with the Arch Bishop and as a matter of fact The Eucharist Kerry recieved is not oficially granted true relevance, Kerry had to run around and pull strings and get an alternative Eucharist.. Don't tell me the Church isn't making a stand. Kerry is FORBIDDEN to recieve TRUE Eucharist and that Priest's Eucharist is not REAL because the Holy See does not condone it .. He did NOT receive the Eucharist. No Priest has the Authority to give the Eucharist but through the Holy See. He chomped on a wafer, and whatever that priest says does not matter because if it is not blessed by the Pope it is not the real body and blood of Jesus Christ. Thats a FACT.[/QUOTE]
Your point is well taken.
Walter
2004-04-28 13:36 | User Profile
Exelsis_Deo and Walter both make good points. While on the metaphysical level, Kerry did not receive the actual Body and Blood of Christ, it is still absolutely disgusting that the Archdioceses of Boston openly defied Rome and centuries of Christian Tradition so that they could give communion to the baby-killing, fag-loving, warmongering pompadour that is John Kerry.
It [u]is[/u] up to the individual as to whether he receives communion -- in the sense that it is up to him to make himself worthy to receive the Host. It is not up to him to make himself an enemy of Christ and His Church, and then to receive communion anyway. Hypocrites! Whited sepulchres!
2004-04-29 02:41 | User Profile
Quantrill, the Archdiocese of Boston DOES refuse John Kerry Holy Communion. Thats the beef. He cannot receive it. The church he went to was not even Catholic, but a wayward formerly Catholic priest was there, in what the news said was a " new age " type Church. So, it is not only by verdict of the Vatican, but by the American branch of the Church as well. Just wanted to clarify that. Also, well appreciated are your points concerning Grant and Lincoln on the other thread, although I believe they were men-of-the-times and would both be truly appalled at what's happenned to America the last 80 years or so. Your point about " economic man " is very insightful.
2004-04-29 14:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Exelsis_Deo]Quantrill, the Archdiocese of Boston DOES refuse John Kerry Holy Communion. Thats the beef. He cannot receive it. The church he went to was not even Catholic, but a wayward formerly Catholic priest was there, in what the news said was a " new age " type Church. So, it is not only by verdict of the Vatican, but by the American branch of the Church as well. Just wanted to clarify that. [/QUOTE] Sorry, Exelsis_Deo. I guess I missed that. Sometimes this stuff makes me so angry that I don't read as closely as I should. I'm glad that the Boston Archdiocese is showing some backbone.