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2004-04-25 01:55 | User Profile
[u][color=black][font=Verdana][size=3]Aryan Racialist & ââ¬ÅWhite Powerââ¬Â Philosophies & Ideologies[/size][/font][/color][/u][color=black][font=Verdana] [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]
*Graded from positive 10 to negative 10, according to its ability to promote or defeat Aryan bio-cultural integrity. The extremes represent "perpetual bio-cultural integrity & security" vs. "dissolution & extinction of bio-cultural integrity." *
[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] [size=3]ââ¬ÅChristian Identityââ¬Â (Aryan Nations, Scriptures for America, ââ¬ÅYahwehââ¬Â groups, etc.) ââ¬â an insane corruption of Jewish Christianity, attempting to replace the creators of a depraved and vile ââ¬Åreligionââ¬Â with Aryans. Strives to impose literal interpretation of Jewish Biblical principles upon all the world. Attracts the most unbalanced and/or unwise zealots and fanatics as well as the culturally undeveloped. Negative 10.
ââ¬ÅCosmotheismââ¬Â (National Alliance) ââ¬â a well-intentioned modification of National Socialism, but promotes the domination and ââ¬Åtranscendenceââ¬Â of Nature, a fallacy derived originally from Semitic thought. Attracts those who believe in ââ¬Ålinear progress,ââ¬Â and a vision of the future similar to an ââ¬ÅAryan Star Trek.ââ¬Â Positive 6.
ââ¬ÅCreativityââ¬Â (ââ¬ÅCreativity Movementââ¬Â/ââ¬ÂChurch of the Creatorââ¬Â) ââ¬â a crude & unoriginal ideology, with a history characterized by failure and embarrassment. Attracts the crime-prone and the mentally unbalanced. Negative 8.
ââ¬ÅDavid Dukismââ¬Â (ââ¬ÅEuropean-American Unity & Rights Organizationââ¬Â/"NAAWP") ââ¬â a ââ¬Åmovementââ¬Â as inauthentic as its leaderââ¬â¢s nose. Promotes a peculiar form of Racial Conservativism, with an emphasis on David Duke. Attracts those who fearfully and/or selfishly reject true revolutionary change. Negative 4.
ââ¬ÅEthnic Nationalismââ¬Â (British National Party, Front National, etc) ââ¬â myopic adherence to an anachronistic ideology focusing on strategically meaningless divisions of our Race. Broad attraction due to its widespread popularity in the past & marginal acceptance within the existing political systems. Neutral.
ââ¬ÅHollywood Nazismââ¬Â (ââ¬ÅNational Socialist Movementââ¬Â & similar) ââ¬â an obscene perversion of Hitlerââ¬â¢s National Socialism. Attempts to replace substance with style; typical of the American mindset. Emulates the image of Hitlerism as portrayed by Jewish Hollywood (hence, ââ¬ÅHollywood Nazisââ¬Â). Attracts egomaniacs, homosexuals, and the crude-minded. Negative 8.
ââ¬ÅKu Klux Klanismââ¬Â ââ¬â a pathetic attempt by pathetic people to revive a once-successful resistance movement. Generally similar in ideology to Racial Conservatism. Attracts the culturally undeveloped & crude-minded. Negative 4.
National Socialism (New Order, independent individuals such as Colin Jordan, etc.) ââ¬â the most successful Aryan racialist philosophy in all history, essentially a ââ¬Ånatural socialism.ââ¬Â The first National Socialist State was defeated only because it was overwhelmed by superior numbers of inferior humanity. Currently of limited influence due to the ubiquitous degeneracy of the remaining remnant of the Aryan Race. Recognizes Adolf Hitler as a Man Above Time, an eternal and undefeatable Symbol. Attracts those who are uncompromisingly dedicated to Natureââ¬â¢s Laws and keen self-discipline. Effectively repels the culturally and/or spiritually degenerate. Positive 10.
ââ¬ÅRacial Conservatismââ¬Â (American Renaissance, ââ¬ÅCouncil of Conservative Citizens,ââ¬Â etc.) ââ¬â Purports to advance the White Race, while adhering to the corrupt tenets of current society which have brought our Race to the brink of extinction. Promotes capitalism, ââ¬ÅConstitutionalismââ¬Â & generally a version of American in 1950. Considers anti-Semitic philosophy to be ââ¬Åun-Americanââ¬Â. Attracts those interested in conserving their money and traditional unearned privileges, ââ¬Åsunshine patriots.ââ¬Â Negative 4.
ââ¬ÅSkinhead movementââ¬Â (ââ¬ÅHammerskins,ââ¬Â ââ¬ÅBlood & Honour,ââ¬Â ââ¬ÅWhite Aryan Resistance,ââ¬Âetc.) ââ¬â promotes nihilistic, libertine ââ¬Ålifestyleââ¬Â that emulates the ââ¬Åculturalââ¬Â paradigm of modern society, but with a thin veneer of Aryan racialism. Objectively viewed, a form of ââ¬Åracistââ¬Â wiggerism. As with ââ¬ÅHollywood Nazism,ââ¬Â values style above substance, including in racial heritage. Attracts disillusioned, culturally undeveloped youth & the crime-prone. Negative 6.[/size][/font][/color]<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
2004-04-25 02:01 | User Profile
this outta stir up a stink
2004-04-25 02:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JoseyWales]this outta stir up a stink[/QUOTE] If it does, which it probably will, I'm sorry, but people NEED to discuss this. If those who disagree want to provide GOOD arguments and evidence to the contrary, I'm more than willing to listen.
The so-called "White Nationalist Movement" has moved NOWHERE for decades. White People are in constant retreat. Using the weapons and tactics that the Enemy "permits" achieves NOTHING. There is but one Philosophy that the Jews truly fear.
Obviously, I'm a National Socialist, and I'll never apologize for it. ONLY National Socialism has proven itself against the Great Masters of Lies, and it was defeated militarily only because it was submerged by the Jews using millions of blind flag-wavers and inferior humanity.
We either adopt an "updated" version of the Great Ideal, or we die. It's as simple as that. It is very educational to realize that "National Socialism" is actually "Natural Socialism," or the Laws of Nature applied to and accepted in human affairs. You don't need to be a pagan to embrace it, as you can believe that God set up these Laws of Nature.
2004-04-25 02:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=norcalnative1971] National Socialism (New Order, independent individuals such as Colin Jordan, etc.) ââ¬â the most successful Aryan racialist philosophy in all history, essentially a ââ¬Ånatural socialism.ââ¬Â The first National Socialist State was defeated only because it was overwhelmed by superior numbers of inferior humanity. Currently of limited influence due to the ubiquitous degeneracy of the remaining remnant of the Aryan Race. Recognizes Adolf Hitler as a Man Above Time, an eternal and undefeatable Symbol. Attracts those who are uncompromisingly dedicated to Natureââ¬â¢s Laws and keen self-discipline. Effectively repels the culturally and/or spiritually degenerate. Positive 10.[/QUOTE]
ROTFLOL! National Socialism was defeated because it had an idiotic egomaniac for a leader who fancied himself as a profound philosopher, infallible military strategist, strategic diplomat, unmatched politician, great health expert, and innovative engineer. None of which were true.
The fact is Adolf Hitler shares just as much responsibility as the Jew-controlled and self-serving politicians of the other nations who all contributed to the greatest mass-slaughter in the history of the white race. How anyone can call that a success staggers my imagination.
2004-04-25 02:46 | User Profile
You might want to come over the Phora [url]http://www.thephora.org/index.php?s=[/url], or Stormfront. OD is a Christian nationalists site for Christian nationalists.
2004-04-25 03:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=wild_bill] ROTFLOL! National Socialism was defeated because it had an idiotic egomaniac for a leader who fancied himself as a profound philosopher, infallible military strategist, strategic diplomat, unmatched politician, great health expert, and innovative engineer. None of which were true. [/QUOTE] All of which were true.
If you prefer to get your "history" from the Talmudvision and from toilet paper like William L. Shirer books, you go right ahead.
[QUOTE=wild_bill] The fact is Adolf Hitler shares just as much responsibility as the Jew-controlled and self-serving politicians of the other nations who all contributed to the greatest mass-slaughter in the history of the white race. How anyone can call that a success staggers my imagination.[/QUOTE] If it weren't for Adolf Hitler and the millions of heroes preventing the onslaught of Jewish Bolshevism into Western Europe planned to start two weeks after Hitler's preemptive attack, you and I would NOT be here. Without the sacrifices of National Socialist Germany, [u]all[/u] of Europe would have been Bolshevik in 1945, and the nature of today's world would be far blacker than it is, literally and figuratively.
Hitler attempted to right the wrongs of World War I, and the Jews and their obedient lackeys in London, Paris, and Washington couldn't handle a strong Germany sans Jews. World War II didn't start until London and Paris declared war on Germany.
2004-04-25 03:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]You might want to come over the Phora [url="http://www.thephora.org/index.php?s="]http://www.thephora.org/index.php?s=[/url], or Stormfront. OD is a Christian nationalists site for Christian nationalists.[/QUOTE] Rather interesting. Here's what the FAQ says:
Original Dissent was created to be a safe haven for presentation and discussion of populist, traditional (or paleo) conservatism and Christian Nationalism.
There is NO greater populism than the movement of Adolf Hitler. No other world leader has ever had such widespread support from all classes and the sheer numbers of support have never been matched by anyone. The vast majority of Germans who supported Hitler were Christians just like yourself. Even Hitler during the greater part of his life was a Positive Christian.
I am not here to offend Christians. In fact, I regard Jesus as a Great Man and Revolutionary (that's not to say I approve of historical "Christianity," which has little to do with Jesus Christ). If reviewing my beliefs offends Christians, they need to look at themselves and examine their own lack of faith in their beliefs. My purpose here is to have discussion with others to promote the only thing that matters to a White Man in this era: the survival of the White Race.
2004-04-25 03:33 | User Profile
Knock yourself out.
2004-04-25 03:36 | User Profile
I don't think you are going to convert anyone here to naziism, but go ahead and give it a shot. :thumbsup:
2004-04-25 04:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=norcalnative1971]All of which were true.
If you prefer to get your "history" from the Talmudvision and from toilet paper like William L. Shirer books, you go right ahead.
You assume that you're talking to someone who just fell off the turnip truck. I've read dozens of books on Hitler. I was a member of the NA for over ten years. I know about HItler. I've heard all this Hitler-worshipping before. The bottomline is all of it gets us nowhere.
Even your idol, Hitler, said that National Socialism wasn't for export. It was a localized, parochial political movement created by a unique set of circumstances and causes. We need worry about what will work now.
If it weren't for Adolf Hitler and the millions of heroes preventing the onslaught of Jewish Bolshevism into Western Europe planned to start two weeks after Hitler's preemptive attack, you and I would NOT be here. Without the sacrifices of National Socialist Germany, [u]all[/u] of Europe would have been Bolshevik in 1945, and the nature of today's world would be far blacker than it is, literally and figuratively.
I've heard that for years, but compare Germany to Russia today. Which is the most race conscious country? In which country do negroes fear to tread? It ain't Germany.
WW2 caused 50 million of our best people to be wiped out. Hitler shares the blame for that. You can brag about this or that thing that Hitler did, but in the end he lost and that's all that really matters now.
Hitler attempted to right the wrongs of World War I, and the Jews and their obedient lackeys in London, Paris, and Washington couldn't handle a strong Germany sans Jews. World War II didn't start until London and Paris declared war on Germany.[/QUOTE]
Hitler was a German nationalist. He never did anything for the white race, per se. Heck, he allied Germany with non-white Japan and he would have gladly exterminated most of the Slavic people. What kind of white nationalist is that?
2004-04-25 05:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]I don't think you are going to convert anyone here to naziism, but go ahead and give it a shot. :thumbsup:[/QUOTE] I do not aim to "convert" anyone to anything. Discussion is healthy, and participants expose themselves to things they should be exposed to.
2004-04-25 05:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=wild_bill] You assume that you're talking to someone who just fell off the turnip truck. I've read dozens of books on Hitler. I was a member of the NA for over ten years. I know about HItler. I've heard all this Hitler-worshipping before. The bottomline is all of it gets us nowhere. [/QUOTE] [size=3]And [u]your[/u] proposal for "successful" Aryan survival IS?[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]How could you be a member of the National Alliance for ten years and NOT be a National Socialist? Were you not paying attention?[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]It is simple fact that National Socialism is the only "tested in combat" philosophy that works. Considering National Socialist Germany held off the world for four years says a lot about the dynamic character of its guiding philosophy. Even the strongest man will drown if the toilet overflows and he is submerged in feces. THAT is why Germany was defeated, not because its ideas were inferior.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] Even your idol, Hitler, said that National Socialism wasn't for export. [/QUOTE] [size=3]A typical misquote, taken out of context. Care to cite the actual quote?[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]Obviously National Socialist Germany supported numerous National Socialist movements in Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, etc.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] It was a localized, parochial political movement created by a unique set of circumstances and causes. We need worry about what will work now. [/QUOTE] [size=3]You are confusing National Socialism with the NSDAP. The latter is fixed in time, the former is a timeless Ideal. This is the same non-argument used by the loony left that the United States Constitution can't be interpreted as written, but must be "considered relevant to the times."[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]National/Natural Socialism worked then, and it will work now. The Laws of Nature are unchanging. National Socialism was and is based upon the Laws of Nature. We ignore them at our own peril.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] I've heard that for years, but compare Germany to Russia today. Which is the most race conscious country? In which country do negroes fear to tread? It ain't Germany. [/QUOTE] [size=3]The "Germany" of today is not the Germany of Hitler's time, obviously. "Germany" today is ruled by an occupation government, largely composed of Jews and primarily composed of leftist lunatics, with the American military still in position to stop any "Hitlerism" from gaining even the tiniest influence.[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]Negroes fear nothing the world over, due to the liberal-lunatic "race harmony" laws forced upon all Whites everywhere. Even in Russia. Defend yourself against a N***er, and you're up S-Creek and behind bars for years.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] WW2 caused 50 million of our best people to be wiped out. Hitler shares the blame for that. You can brag about this or that thing that Hitler did, but in the end he lost and that's all that really matters now. [/QUOTE] [size=3]And you blame Jefferson Davis for the deaths of the Confederate Whites?[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]Jesus Christ died on the Cross, and His name is known to billions, and is worshipped by hundreds of millions. He "lost" and was revived centuries later.[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]Never underestimate the power of a superior Idea.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] Hitler was a German nationalist. He never did anything for the white race, per se. Heck, he allied Germany with non-white Japan and he would have gladly exterminated most of the Slavic people. What kind of white nationalist is that?[/QUOTE] [size=3]As I said before, you have obviously read [u]selected[/u] works on Hitler, and don't want the actual facts about the Man and his work.[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]The Waffen-SS was the first pan-Aryan fighting force ever, and incorporated men from all European countries, including Russia & Ukraine.[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]As for Hitler's false "hatred of the Slavs," fools who parrot this crap just can't quite explain heroes like Walther Nowotny and numerous other German fighting men with Slavic names. Even Hitler's boyhood friend, Kubizek, was a Slav. The Jew-Bolshevik propagandists like Ilya Ehrenburg distorted the Third Reich's actions against Jew Commissars and their Mongoloid minions as being a "campaign against the Slavic peoples." The professional liars of the West continue this to today. Just like the usual false tales of the "Holocaust."[/size]
2004-04-25 06:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=norcalnative1971][size=3]And [u]your[/u] proposal for "successful" Aryan survival IS?
If the white race was adhering to traditional Christianity, we wouldn't be having the most significant problems that are killing us - namely self-extinguishing birthrate, non-white invasion, and social degeneracy.
How could you be a member of the National Alliance for ten years and NOT be a National Socialist? Were you not paying attention?[/size]
I think its a natural thing when a person becomes aware of the Jewish threat to react by becoming interested in Hitler. I mean the Jews are telling everybody constantly what a rotten, evil man he was. So one thinks "If the Jews hate this man so much, then he has to be good!" But that is simply a reactionary attitude. Just because the Jews oppose something doesn't mean we should automatically advocate it. Its a shortsighted as people who think that since the Jews hate the Muslims that we should support the Muslims. But the fact is BOTH are dangerous to our survival.
[size=3]It is simple fact that National Socialism is the only "tested in combat" philosophy that works. Considering National Socialist Germany held off the world for four years says a lot about the dynamic character of its guiding philosophy. Even the strongest man will drown if the toilet overflows and he is submerged in feces. THAT is why Germany was defeated, not because its ideas were inferior.[/size]
It doesn't matter. They lost. This is like the people who are constantly making excuses for negro failure. They always have some excuse.
[size=3]A typical misquote, taken out of context. Care to cite the actual quote?[/size]
No, I'm not going to spend hours digging it up. I think its in MK.
[size=3]Obviously National Socialist Germany supported numerous National Socialist movements in Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, etc.[/size]
Yes, and they all failed and ceased to exist.
[size=3]National/Natural Socialism worked then, and it will work now. The Laws of Nature are unchanging. National Socialism was and is based upon the Laws of Nature. We ignore them at our own peril.[/size]
The "Laws of Nature." What are they? That's just a propaganda slogan, more than anything, since everybody has their own definition.
[size=3]Negroes fear nothing the world over, due to the liberal-lunatic "race harmony" laws forced upon all Whites everywhere. Even in Russia. Defend yourself against a N***er, and you're up S-Creek and behind bars for years.[/size]
I think if you check some news articles, you'll see foreign negro students complaining about being constantly on guard when going out in Russia.
[size=3]And you blame Jefferson Davis for the deaths of the Confederate Whites?[/size]
Hitler should have avoided war.
[size=3]As I said before, you have obviously read [u]selected[/u] works on Hitler, and don't want the actual facts about the Man and his work.[/size]
How many books do I have to read? Ten, twenty, fifty? Most of the books I had came from National Vanguard.
[size=3]The Waffen-SS was the first pan-Aryan fighting force ever, and incorporated men from all European countries, including Russia & Ukraine.[/size]
Yes, but they created those SS units only when Germany was having trouble fielding armies with Germans. It was a last resort.
[size=3]As for Hitler's false "hatred of the Slavs," fools who parrot this crap just can't quite explain heroes like Walther Nowotny and numerous other German fighting men with Slavic names. [/QUOTE]
Hitler was warned about the maniac Koch's repression of the Slavs in the occupied areas and did nothing about it. His top generals wanted a less harsh administrator since they feared the rough treatment would turn the Slavs against them. But Hitler ignored that advice. As a result, millions of Russians and Ukranians reluctantly sided with the Soviets.
Yes, a small number of anti-communists joined the Waffen SS units in the latter years, but millions of average Slavs would have sided with the Germans, but they got nothing but brutality.
This is all history. If you claim to know all about Hitler and aren't aware of this, then maybe you need to read some more.
2004-04-25 08:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=norcalnative1971]If it weren't for Adolf Hitler and the millions of heroes preventing the onslaught of Jewish Bolshevism into Western Europe planned to start two weeks after Hitler's preemptive attack, you and I would NOT be here. Without the sacrifices of National Socialist Germany, [u]all[/u] of Europe would have been Bolshevik in 1945, and the nature of today's world would be far blacker than it is, literally and figuratively.[/QUOTE]
There seems to be some real basis for this point. I haven't read the book (I believe its called Operation: Ice-Breaker by a Mr. Sudoplatov, formerly of the KGB/NKVD) but I did read Serdja Trifkovic's review of it and heard some discussion of it on the radio and it seems plausible to me. I remember from studying the Second World War in college that the Soviets lost most of their bombers in the opening hours of Barbarossa, because they had them all at airfields along their border with Germany, like maybe they were planning to utilize them offensively soon....
2004-04-25 08:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=wild_bill]Hitler was warned about the maniac Koch's repression of the Slavs in the occupied areas and did nothing about it. His top generals wanted a less harsh administrator since they feared the rough treatment would turn the Slavs against them. But Hitler ignored that advice. As a result, millions of Russians and Ukranians reluctantly sided with the Soviets.
Yes, a small number of anti-communists joined the Waffen SS units in the latter years, but millions of average Slavs would have sided with the Germans, but they got nothing but brutality.[/QUOTE]
Just think how much better the world might be had Hitler enough sense to call Operation Barbarossa something more like Operation Russian Freedom....
2004-04-25 12:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=wild_bill] If the white race was adhering to traditional Christianity, we wouldn't be having the most significant problems that are killing us - namely self-extinguishing birthrate, non-white invasion, and social degeneracy. [/QUOTE] [size=3]There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abrahamââ¬â¢s seed, and heirs according to the promise.[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]? [/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] I think its a natural thing when a person becomes aware of the Jewish threat to react by becoming interested in Hitler. I mean the Jews are telling everybody constantly what a rotten, evil man he was. So one thinks "If the Jews hate this man so much, then he has to be good!" But that is simply a reactionary attitude. Just because the Jews oppose something doesn't mean we should automatically advocate it. Its a shortsighted as people who think that since the Jews hate the Muslims that we should support the Muslims. But the fact is BOTH are dangerous to our survival. [/QUOTE] [size=3]The fact the Jews hate Hitler is not the reason I revere him. He was truly a Great Man, the epitome of a People's Leader.[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]Jewish hatred for Hitler is the usual vehicle people come to learn more about him, and in that sense, their hatred is "good."[/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]It is totally foolish to pretend Hitler is "dangerous to our survival." His is the ONLY way. Not in the emulation of a "new NSDAP," but in adapting his Idea and Ideal to our current situation.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] It doesn't matter. They lost. This is like the people who are constantly making excuses for negro failure. They always have some excuse. [/QUOTE] [size=3]Are you going to abandon Christianity because the homosexuals and race-mixers have beaten historical Christianity into the ground?[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] No, I'm not going to spend hours digging it up. I think its in MK. [/QUOTE] [size=3]Of course not. Your interpretation is incorrect. [/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]BTW, it's from Table Talk, not MK.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] The "Laws of Nature." What are they? That's just a propaganda slogan, more than anything, since everybody has their own definition. [/QUOTE] [size=3]The universe operates according to unbreachable and fixed laws, I believe that both Christian and pagan can agree upon that. Those are the Laws of Nature. Human biology is applied Natural Law, and Semitic ideology has always attempted to overcome Natural Law. Hence, we see the Jews in the vanguard of breaching such laws as comes to race, homosexuality, and so on. It doesn't matter whether people have their own definition or not, since such Laws exist, and it is human error that fails to properly interpret them. [/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3]Do you not agree that racial boundaries are established by a Higher Power?[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] I think if you check some news articles, you'll see foreign negro students complaining about being constantly on guard when going out in Russia. [/QUOTE] [size=3]I also know Negroes have been in Russia for many decades, since the time of Pushkin and Bolshevik Revolution. Isolated incidents of Russian skinheads knocking over some heads does not change the fact that the "racial harmony" laws on the books since the USSR still exist, and are enforced.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] Hitler should have avoided war. [/QUOTE] [size=3]You avoided my question. Was Jefferson Davis responsible for the deaths of the Civil War? Why didn't he just give in the Lincoln? (for the same reason Hitler wouldn't give in to Chamberlain/Churchill or Rosenfeld)[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] How many books do I have to read? Ten, twenty, fifty? Most of the books I had came from National Vanguard. [/QUOTE] [size=3]NVB offers several key works that must lead to the National Socialist worldview when honestly and accurately examined.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] Yes, but they created those SS units only when Germany was having trouble fielding armies with Germans. It was a last resort. [/QUOTE] [size=3]But create them they did.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] Hitler was warned about the maniac Koch's repression of the Slavs in the occupied areas and did nothing about it. His top generals wanted a less harsh administrator since they feared the rough treatment would turn the Slavs against them. But Hitler ignored that advice. As a result, millions of Russians and Ukranians reluctantly sided with the Soviets. [/QUOTE] [size=3]Hitler was so focused on the military campaign, that Bormann, who it turns out was a Soviet agent (see [u]Hitler's Traitor[/u]), filtered whatever he wanted through to Hitler, and stopped a great many things from getting through. Bormann, and his buddy Koch, were responsible for overriding Old Fighter Rosenberg's plans for Ukraine, which was to create a strong, independent ally. Stalin WANTED the Ukrainians and Russians to hate the Germans, and since Bormann was obviously "Werther," he made sure certain units of the SS helped bring it about.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] Yes, a small number of anti-communists joined the Waffen SS units in the latter years, but millions of average Slavs would have sided with the Germans, but they got nothing but brutality. [/QUOTE] [size=3]Because of Koch. Under Rosenberg and without Bormann, things would have been far different.[/size]
[QUOTE=wild_bill] This is all history. If you claim to know all about Hitler and aren't aware of this, then maybe you need to read some more.[/QUOTE] [size=3]Or maybe I've read too much and know what Hitler and the Third Reich was truly about?[/size]
2004-04-25 12:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]Just think how much better the world might be had Hitler enough sense to call Operation Barbarossa something more like Operation Russian Freedom....[/QUOTE] Actually, if you study 3R propaganda for the Russian invasion, you'll see the Germans painted it just that to the Russians and Ukrainians. I've seen a nice poster of Hitler, with a unique painting, labelled "Liberator." Among others. The Ukrainians, especially, welcomed the Germans for the initial period.
As mentioned earlier, it has come out that Martin Bormann, who weaseled his way into position as Hitler's primary aide, due to Hess' peace mission, was a Soviet agent named "Werther." Stalin was reported to have key German operational plans in some cases BEFORE the German field commanders did. Only a very tiny few had access to such plans at such early stages, and Louis Kilzer does a good job of explaining that Bormann had to be "Werther." Bormann had numerous Bolshevik tendencies, so it's really not that surprising. Bormann as Stalin's tool also explains his hatred of the Slavs, whom he appeared to be himself; Bormann and the natural sadist Koch conspired to undermine Rosenberg's sane plan for Ukraine. It must be remembered that Hitler deliberately appointed Rosenberg to oversee the Eastern socio-political situation, because he was such a trusted comrade for so long.
2004-04-25 15:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE]And you blame Jefferson Davis for the deaths of the Confederate Whites?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
Walter
2004-04-26 02:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=norcalnative1971]
Why are your postings so overloaded with HTML coding? I mention it because I don't see anyone else doing this and it makes for extra work when making a response.
2004-04-26 02:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=norcalnative1971]" Bormann had numerous Bolshevik tendencies, so it's really not that surprising. Bormann as Stalin's tool also explains his hatred of the Slavs, whom he appeared to be himself; Bormann and the natural sadist Koch conspired to undermine Rosenberg's sane plan for Ukraine. It must be remembered that Hitler deliberately appointed Rosenberg to oversee the Eastern socio-political situation, because he was such a trusted comrade for so long.[/QUOTE]
That may all be true, but doesn't absolve Hitler of responsibility. After all, he was specifically told what Koch was doing, the possible ramifications, yet did nothing to stop Koch.
2004-04-26 18:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=norcalnative1971]There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham?s seed, and heirs according to the promise.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://forums.originaldissent.com/showthread.php?t=13357]Raping Sacred Scripture[/url]
2004-05-14 16:41 | User Profile
My own personal philosophy (of which racialism is an aspect of) does not come remotely near any of those categories. I am still looking for the catch-all phrase, something like Fascism, which was composed of different elements (Futurists, Syndicalists, Nationalists etc.). Its a type of Aestheticism that includes (Postmoralism [Ethics], Perspectivism [Metaphysics], Constructionism [Epistemology], Protectionism [Economics], Postmodernism [Politics]).
2004-05-15 13:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=FadeTheButcher]My own personal philosophy (of which racialism is an aspect of) does not come remotely near any of those categories. I am still looking for the catch-all phrase, something like Fascism, which was composed of different elements (Futurists, Syndicalists, Nationalists etc.). Its a type of Aestheticism that includes (Postmoralism [Ethics], Perspectivism [Metaphysics], Constructionism [Epistemology], Protectionism [Economics], Postmodernism [Politics]).[/QUOTE]
Why not just lump it all together and joiin me on the Far Catholic Right?
You'll be in good company with the likes of Franco, Salazar, and DeValera.
Walter