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Thread ID: 13300 | Posts: 24 | Started: 2004-04-24
2004-04-24 00:16 | User Profile
I did a search for jewwatch on Google, it doesn't come up.
Obviously, Google decided it wasn't enough just to put a disclaimer up, but they have pulled it completely from their listings. In the past, Google has claimed they only remove listings which they are legally forced to remove. Now, they have no excuse.
No Jewwatch on: Google Hotbot Yahoo
Jewwatch is still on: Altavista (#1 with "jew" as search term) Lycos (#3) Excite (#20)
2004-04-24 00:26 | User Profile
The amazing hypocrisy of first providing a notice announcing their commitment to 'objective' practises and freedom from tampering with results, followed by simply deleting a listing deemed non-kosher, is pretty breathtaking.
When will Jews ever learn that the main reason they are attacked is because they are constantly taking un-wise steps to keep from being 'attacked'?
2004-04-24 04:15 | User Profile
If you look in the software of the Google search engine, it has exceptional handling of such search terms as "jew".
The truth IS anti-semitic.
2004-04-25 03:15 | User Profile
Happy Hacker,
It was still there when I just looked.But they now apologize about it.
[QUOTE] Web jew watch
Did you mean: jew watch
JewWatch.Net JewWatch.Net, ... Welcome To JewWatch.Net "The opposite of love is not hate, itââ¬â¢s indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, itââ¬â¢s indifference. ... [url]www.jewwatch.net/[/url] - 8k - Apr 23, 2004 - Cached - Similar pages
Jew Watch ... Archived for Educational Purposes only Under USC Title 17 Section 107 by Jew Watch Library at jewwatch.com. ... [email]admin@jewwatch.com[/email]. CLICK HERE TO VISIT THE TOP 1000! ... [url]www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/jew-watch/[/url] - 36k - Apr 24, 2004 - Cached - Similar pages
Remove JewWatch.com from Google! Remove JewWatch.com from Google removejewwatch.com
Offensive Search Results We're disturbed about these results as well. Please read our note here. [url]www.google.com/explanation[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=jewwatch&btnG=Google+Search[/url] [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Web jew watch Jew Watch Jew Watch. Keeping ... palestine. Archived for Educational Purposes only Under USC Title 17 Section 107 by Jew Watch Library at jewwatch.com. ... [url]www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/jew-watch/[/url] - 36k - Apr 24, 2004 - Cached - Similar pages
Jew Watch - Jewish Occupied Governments - Israel Jew Watch. Keeping a Close Watch on Jewish Communities & Organizations Worldwide. ... c. 1998 by Jew Watch at jewwatch.com. All articles ... [url]www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-israel.html[/url] - 46k
Offensive Search Results We're disturbed about these results as well. Please read our note here. [url]www.google.com/explanation[/url]
[url]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=jew+watch&spell=1[/url] [/QUOTE]
I will ask will Google add a note somewhat like this to apologize for anti-Christian or anti-Hindu websites? They would not do this for any other group.
[QUOTE]Google
An explanation of our search results.
If you recently used Google to search for the word "Jew," you may have seen results that were very disturbing. We assure you that the views expressed by the sites in your results are not in any way endorsed by Google. We'd like to explain why you're seeing these results when you conduct this search.
A site's ranking in Google's search results is automatically determined by computer algorithms using thousands of factors to calculate a page's relevance to a given query. Sometimes subtleties of language cause anomalies to appear that cannot be predicted. A search for "Jew" brings up one such unexpected result.
If you use Google to search for "Judaism," "Jewish" or "Jewish people," the results are informative and relevant. So why is a search for "Jew" different? One reason is that the word "Jew" is often used in an anti-Semitic context. Jewish organizations are more likely to use the word "Jewish" when talking about members of their faith. The word has become somewhat charged linguistically, as noted on websites devoted to Jewish topics such as these:
* [url]http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~mendele/vol01/vol01.174[/url]
* [url]http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/jonah081500.asp[/url]
Someone searching for information on Jewish people would be more likely to enter terms like "Judaism," "Jewish people," or "Jews" than the single word "Jew." In fact, prior to this incident, the word "Jew" only appeared about once in every 10 million search queries. Now it's likely that the great majority of searches on Google for "Jew" are by people who have heard about this issue and want to see the results for themselves.
Our search results are generated completely objectively and are independent of the beliefs and preferences of those who work at Google. Some people concerned about this issue have created online petitions to encourage us to remove particular links or otherwise adjust search results. Because of our objective and automated ranking system, Google cannot be influenced by these petitions. The only sites we omit are those we are legally compelled to remove or those maliciously attempting to manipulate our results.
We apologize for the upsetting nature of the experience you had using Google and appreciate your taking the time to inform us about it.
Sincerely, The Google Team
p.s. You may be interested in some additional information the Anti-Defamation League has posted about this issue at [url]http://www.adl.org/rumors/google_search_rumors.asp[/url]. In addition, we call your attention to both the Jewish Internet Association, an organization that addresses online anti-semitism, at [url]http://www.jewishinternetassociation.org/[/url], and Google's search results on this topic. é2004 Google - Google Home - About Google
[url]http://www.google.com/explanation.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
2004-04-25 04:36 | User Profile
After the problems with google, jewwatch got terminated by the ISP providing their server - Houston-based EV1, or "everyone's internet". I almost signed up with them for internet service $10/month, but couldn't stomach their PC terms of service.
2004-04-27 13:53 | User Profile
Google says it is innocent of removing Jewwatch from its listings:
Google spokesman David Krane attributed the change to a combination of timing and Web hosting policies. The account for Stormfront, a neo-Nazi site that had supported Jew Watch, apparently was canceled last week by Web hosting service EV1, and the site was inaccessible for several days.
Jew Watch has since resurfaced on another hosting service, but its downtime coincided with the periodic "crawls" Google makes to ensure that Web addresses are valid. For now, Jew Watch doesn't exist as far as Google is concerned--at least until the company does another crawl in a month or so. [URL=http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-5200203.html?tag=nefd.top]News.com[/URL]
I didn't realize that being down through one cycle of the spider crawling would cause Google to think the site no longer exists. That kind of defeats the function of the Google cache if the listing doesn't come up.
2004-04-27 16:07 | User Profile
Interestingly, this certainly doesn't happen with most other search engines.
Whether Google directly removed the listing (as I think is likely), or caused it to be removed by drawing un-wanted attention to it through their little 'disclaimer,' they clearly over-stepped the bounds of being a general search engine to being an edited-content area. And, of course, only edited when Jews are involved.
2004-04-27 18:21 | User Profile
From CNET News.com:
[url=http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-5200203.html?tag=nefd.top]Anti-Semitic site drops off Google[/url]
By David Becker Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Story last modified April 26, 2004, 2:52 PM PDT
A controversial anti-Semitic site has disappeared from Google, but the search site says it had nothing to do with it.
As previously reported, the anti-Semitic site Jew Watch used to be the first item returned from a Google search on the word "Jew," a result that attracted widespread criticism and several online protest campaigns.
As of Monday, however, only an old image of the Jew Watch site could be found from a Google search on Jew, buried five pages within the search results.
Google spokesman David Krane attributed the change to a combination of timing and Web hosting policies. The account for Stormfront, a neo-Nazi site that had supported Jew Watch, apparently was canceled last week by Web hosting service EV1, and the site was inaccessible for several days.
Jew Watch has since resurfaced on another hosting service, but its downtime coincided with the periodic "crawls" Google makes to ensure that Web addresses are valid. For now, Jew Watch doesn't exist as far as Google is concerned--at least until the company does another crawl in a month or so.
"Our crawler was unable to reach the site while it was offline, so it dropped from our index," Krane said. "If they remain online over the next month, it's likely we'll pick it up again."
The outcry over the appearance of Jew Watch in Google results attracted an online petition campaign, a "Google bombing" effort to lower the site's relevance in Google rankings and a letter from U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) that asked Google to alter the results.
Google responded with a notice, posted similarly to a keyword-based ad, explaining the company's position that search results are based on objective algorithms and can't be manipulated to eliminate offensive content. "The only sites we omit are those we are legally compelled to remove or those maliciously attempting to manipulate our results," according to the notice.
2004-04-28 00:04 | User Profile
The Jews attract more attention to themselves by their actions, a very good sample of this is Mr. Gigson's movie "The Passion",,,,,, I for one wasen't going to see it till the Jews made a big deal out of it, now I will see it.
The only thing that I see about the movie that is "anti-Semitic" is that is telling the truth about the Bible and that the Jews did kill Jesus.
2004-04-28 23:05 | User Profile
[IMG]http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/10/images/Google/sergey_96.gif[/IMG] Sergey Brin
"Googleââ¬â¢s co-founder, Sergey Brin, a Stanford graduate and Russian Jew, sent the ADL a letter pledging to re-examine how it classifies Web sites." [URL=http://jewish.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1271]link[/URL]
Okay, Google won't "censor" but they'll manipulate results to sink websites with Politically Incorrect information.
2004-04-28 23:08 | User Profile
Is Sergey male or female?
2004-04-29 03:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Is Sergey male or female?[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://admaiora.blogs.com/maurolupi/sergey-brin.jpg[/IMG]
Male
2004-04-29 05:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Happy Hacker]Male[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's just my lack of knowledge about their culture, but something about those Russian jews just don't look right to me.
2004-04-29 10:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Maybe it's just my lack of knowledge about their culture, but something about those Russian jews just don't look right to me.[/QUOTE]
He looks Mah-valous, darlink.
2004-04-29 11:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Happy Hacker] Male[/QUOTE] Are you sure?
So what is he, a cross dresser or something?
2004-04-29 15:16 | User Profile
It's easy. Look at the Adam's apple. Only males have them.
Gotcha!
2004-04-29 15:24 | User Profile
I have heard the following:
[URL=http://www.jewwatch.com]Jew Watch[/URL] will not be shut down again. Why? Because it is going overseas to be hosted by nations who are either hostile or at war with Israel and where Jews don't have any say. These nations do not respond to Jewish attacks on honest, news oriented scholarly research sites like Jew Watch. So it will be perfectly safe from their hysteria.
The Jews have organized to stop Jew Watch and have even tossed bricks at the owner's home and threatened his life. He can protect himself. If they break into his house, he is ready for them.
The Jews will not relent in the United States. Hence, the decision to have foreign ISP's in Arab lands out of the reach of these feisty little anti-American. anti-White, anti-Freedom of Speech, anti-honest information guys.
Oi Vey, boys. Up yours once again. You lose. We win. You do not yet control the entire world, and you never will.
Twister
PS: The owner of Jew Watch, Frank Weltner, can be heard several times a week at [URL=http://www.ethnicsurvivalkit.com/ethnic_survival_radio_main_page.htm]National Vanguard Radio Archive[/URL] 24/7 reporting on Jews, Jew Watch, Blacks, Federal Corruption, Culture Wars, etc., in FM quality streaming on demand.
[QUOTE=Centinel]From CNET News.com:
[url=http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-5200203.html?tag=nefd.top]Anti-Semitic site drops off Google[/url]
By David Becker Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Story last modified April 26, 2004, 2:52 PM PDT
A controversial anti-Semitic site has disappeared from Google, but the search site says it had nothing to do with it.
As previously reported, the anti-Semitic site Jew Watch used to be the first item returned from a Google search on the word "Jew," a result that attracted widespread criticism and several online protest campaigns.
As of Monday, however, only an old image of the Jew Watch site could be found from a Google search on Jew, buried five pages within the search results.
Google spokesman David Krane attributed the change to a combination of timing and Web hosting policies. The account for Stormfront, a neo-Nazi site that had supported Jew Watch, apparently was canceled last week by Web hosting service EV1, and the site was inaccessible for several days.
Jew Watch has since resurfaced on another hosting service, but its downtime coincided with the periodic "crawls" Google makes to ensure that Web addresses are valid. For now, Jew Watch doesn't exist as far as Google is concerned--at least until the company does another crawl in a month or so.
"Our crawler was unable to reach the site while it was offline, so it dropped from our index," Krane said. "If they remain online over the next month, it's likely we'll pick it up again."
The outcry over the appearance of Jew Watch in Google results attracted an online petition campaign, a "Google bombing" effort to lower the site's relevance in Google rankings and a letter from U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) that asked Google to alter the results.
Google responded with a notice, posted similarly to a keyword-based ad, explaining the company's position that search results are based on objective algorithms and can't be manipulated to eliminate offensive content. "The only sites we omit are those we are legally compelled to remove or those maliciously attempting to manipulate our results," according to the notice.[/QUOTE]
2004-04-29 23:27 | User Profile
Perhaps some of you have seen Don Black's latest announcement over at SF concerning Time-Warner's pressuring of their server host to delete content on said server or have service refused via T-W's cable backbone infrastructure. This is a new level of attack on free speech and the first I've ever heard of this tactic. Pressuring ISPs is one thing, but refusing service via the pipelines is another. The immediate analogy that comes to mind is Bell Telephone telling a local phone service provider to either disallow certain people to use their telephone or the local service provider will no longer have access to the telephone lines. (Somebody (Don?) please correct me if I'm wrong here).
Anyway, we need to be very sober and realistic about all this and I don't think it is alarmist or crying wolf to state that if any of you that participate here and/or at any other forae have built any type of personal contact or friendships with anyone else of like-mind, then you really, [u]really[/u] need to establish some kind of method of contact outside of the internet or these boards now, at the very least.
We all know the Martin Neimoller quote, so there's no need to repeat it here, but trust me, there is a concerted effort to shut down certain speech here on the internet and it has now progressed to denying access to the internet backbone itself. If you don't believe or trust me, then go read the words of Don Black at SF and open your eyes.
Now I can hear some of the monied interests at sites like VDARE, AmRen and AmConMag and some of you also saying, "well that's just those horrible nazi/white supremacist/klan sites they're going after, we're better off with them gone." Let me tell you something brother, you're a fool if you think that once those sites are gone the same enemies of freedom won't simply crank it up a notch and start-in on the more 'mainstream' sites that dare to present and discuss white folk's interests. The enemy has the resources, money, government and power thereof to force their vision of their New World upon all of us. If contacts, alliances and networks aren't established very soon, then I am afraid that one day in the near term we're going to find that we don't have the luxury of boards like this or SF to exchange pleasantries anymore.
Just be wary, friends.
2004-04-30 00:28 | User Profile
The Internet isn't nearly as secure as most people think. It might survive a nuke, but all it takes is a handful of certain companies to prohibit something to make that something vanish.
Sure, they can't silence something completely, but when you're stuck jumping between transitory websites, or having to go through foreign proxies, the effort becomes difficult enough that only the choir is going to go to the effort.
Maybe we should start agitating for Free Speech to be treated as a Civil Right (rather than a worthless Constitutional Right).
Pressuring ISPs is one thing, but refusing service via the pipelines is another. The immediate analogy that comes to mind is Bell Telephone telling a local phone service provider to either disallow certain people to use their telephone or the local service provider will no longer have access to the telephone lines.
That's what it's like. I wonder if there are any court cases of the telephone company denying service based on the speech of the person wanting the phone line. There are several reasons why there aren't problems with the telephone company isn't denying serviced based on someone's speech, such as websites are public communication whereas a phone is private.
If a leftist or a neocon website were ever killed at the top level, you can bet that Congress would pass a law to get those pipes treated as a public utility.
2004-04-30 02:42 | User Profile
Given the way we understand free speech in America (wrongly), this area is primed for law suits. If a backbone provider wont provide service based on objections to legal speech, they should be sued. If there is money for the lawsuit, it would likely be a successful one.
Nonetheless, we should indeed be prepared to have many useful forms of speech stifled. It will be necessary to work in levels, with only some websites offering truly free speech, and others prudentially curtailing speech that is not likely to survive free speech challenges without massive lawyering. A lot can still be done at that level. The main thing is to be able to say that there is a white race, or that there are white races, and these deserve to survive and flourish. Next most important is to be able to say that Jews have been disproportionately active in controlling media, academic, and political content toward the goal of countering the thesis of white racial value and rights of survival.
Of course, there is also some need for serious examination of National Socialism, particularly relative to equally immoral political groups and activities, such as the Stalinists, the Maoists, and the Khemer Rouge. The point has got to be made that the defeat of the Nazis has cast wrongly cast an overly dark light over some of their better ideals, such as the re-invigoration of Germanic and Nordic races and cultures, and the reality of racial conflict. Here the point is to show that the true Nazi ideas do not become false simply because they were connected with the immorality of the Holocaust and fascism; where we find similar or greater levels of immorality where Germanic/Nordicist ideals are not present.
Still, in the main, it is the pro-Nazi and Christian Identity content that causes trouble, and will have to be supressed in the more careful websites. The problem is, too many who have a lot of correct ideas about race lack proper critical distance on the Nazi's and there very evil, very real actions. Perhaps, psychologically speaking, it couldn't be otherwise during the general insanity of the 60's and 70's. At this point, it is difficult to defend the claims involved in this kind of un-critical content (not to say it doesn't have some value), and censorship is hard to counter. Of course, there shouldn't be such censorship being such a problem in the first place, but that's the way it is.
I would say the people behind Stormfront, Resistance, the National Vanguard, the National Alliance, et al, should think seriously about spinning off some newer publications and websites that have most of the same content, but offer a more reflective, objective stance on National Socialism; and which tone down severly any connection to past figures associated with violence. Again, this shouldn't have to be the way things are, but it would probably be a wise idea given the increasing levels of censorship that will be coming our way as, at the same time, whites quite possibly become more receptive to racialist ideals.
2004-04-30 04:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Perhaps some of you have seen Don Black's latest announcement over at SF concerning Time-Warner's pressuring of their server host to delete content on said server or have service refused via T-W's cable backbone infrastructure. [/QUOTE] AOL Time-Warner is a public company. Such political activites are [I]ultra vires[/I] and would seem to violate the fiduciary duty to the shareholders.
I always feel naive when I suggest legal action, in view of the corruption of the establishment, but ventures into court are not utterly hopeless. Unless I'm missing something, AOL Time Warner shareholders have a cause of action for breach of fiduciary duty.
Walter?
2004-04-30 05:59 | User Profile
As many of you know now, whites are NOT watching TV like they use to. The Network news, I have read for last 5 years has continually lost market share every year. Same thing for the brainwashing Newsless papers, magazines. Same for their over priced music C.D.'s, that most people got sick of the HIGH prices, thats what drove the sales for most of fece music down, not p.c.'s. Point is, this little minority that has been very tyranical, hateful, little treasonous pukes to U.S., had a money meeting in Chicago I read, and after their frustration of not being able to stop the distribution of "Birth of a Nation" they simply put up the money to buy the motion picture busines out or get 51% of every studio and then take it over. They knew instantly the power of this medium, plus they got to use our white woman like dogs. Now they have billions in their Vorld wide media cabal and especially in England, NZ, AU, Canada, and U.S. and they DO NOT like U.S. making and telling any news that is for the needs of white families, and for our political resistance, organizing for our Nation not to be over run and not a white majority. The interent with educational information for/of facts for awakening of whites to join U.S. against their media lies and treason against our Nation that let them in to begin with. Our reward for being fair to them was war, central banks, and [url]www.ussliberty.org[/url]. That site can't be spread enough.. It has been made easier for the invasion aiders, with the flying in of primitive Africans, Hmoogs for 30 years now, along with the Messytizo foot invasion, and other savages as the alien MEDIA supports this progrom against U.S. viciously. THIS invasion is a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. They have not only ignored, but the press have aides it all the time, and has promoted all sorts of political schemes to increase this NON-white invasion. Plus,they have pushed the central white whore government in the district of Criminals, to arrest and harrass patriots or any one who organizes on the Mexican border to stop this non-white invasion. The press at the same time says not a word about S.A.whites to be deported. The Jewish NPR and the rest of the media talk of putting up water stations for invaders and have done it for years now,and on and on it goes. They have had a one sided race war against working class whites for 50 years now, and now there is no place to hide, not one county does not have Messyfreakingtizzos in it or Africans from Africa too.. This is serious, and so what does the government do? Well, I read right here at O.D. that the fbi boyz want to monitor websites and forums now for hate, oi!, and oh boy!, what a job, and I bet they don't get min. wages either.. First Amendment? Say hello NKVD, and no jewish jokes allowed. The internet is not okay with the treason boyz who have given U.S. treason for 100 years now, and have put the central goverment boot on our necks with this full blown treason since the criminal cabal of Pearl Harbor that was a Big filthy lie we still suffer from. Tonight while driving home, I heard on the biggest WEST coast radio clear channel station KGO 810 heard form Baja to Finland at night, had Gene Burns talking about our war etc., and then talking with a caller he was puting down, he a 66 year old white man went in to the act and stated, THAT Japan attacked U.S. unprovoked etc. You see, the media will NOT give up one inch of their lies, as one tear in their cabal of lies might cause their control of U.S. to rip. I only hear Rabbi, Dr. Savage once or twice a month driving some where, and I always hear him yelling, Nazi this, Nazi that, and he actually still yells about soap and lampshades. These pigs do not like the internet.. T.D. yes, we who want contacts need to make them now, as these filthy pigs intend to go after every free speech site or tell you, that the adl, govt, or some fudge packer group must be able to monitor it etc. I say that every forum is already has agents NOW. This board has some baloney heads, and itz to be expected.
2004-04-30 06:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Perhaps some of you have seen Don Black's latest announcement over at SF concerning Time-Warner's pressuring of their server host to delete content on said server or have service refused via T-W's cable backbone infrastructure. This is a new level of attack on free speech and the first I've ever heard of this tactic. Pressuring ISPs is one thing, but refusing service via the pipelines is another. The immediate analogy that comes to mind is Bell Telephone telling a local phone service provider to either disallow certain people to use their telephone or the local service provider will no longer have access to the telephone lines. (Somebody (Don?) please correct me if I'm wrong here).
Anyway, we need to be very sober and realistic about all this and I don't think it is alarmist or crying wolf to state that if any of you that participate here and/or at any other forae have built any type of personal contact or friendships with anyone else of like-mind, then you really, [u]really[/u] need to establish some kind of method of contact outside of the internet or these boards now, at the very least.
We all know the Martin Neimoller quote, so there's no need to repeat it here, but trust me, there is a concerted effort to shut down certain speech here on the internet and it has now progressed to denying access to the internet backbone itself. If you don't believe or trust me, then go read the words of Don Black at SF and open your eyes.
Now I can hear some of the monied interests at sites like VDARE, AmRen and AmConMag and some of you also saying, "well that's just those horrible nazi/white supremacist/klan sites they're going after, we're better off with them gone." Let me tell you something brother, you're a fool if you think that once those sites are gone the same enemies of freedom won't simply crank it up a notch and start-in on the more 'mainstream' sites that dare to present and discuss white folk's interests. The enemy has the resources, money, government and power thereof to force their vision of their New World upon all of us. If contacts, alliances and networks aren't established very soon, then I am afraid that one day in the near term we're going to find that we don't have the luxury of boards like this or SF to exchange pleasantries anymore.
Just be wary, friends.[/QUOTE] This post was poigant and a wake up call. Yes you are right they will come after VDARE and O.D. too.. They ARE control nutz, itz what they do, and they are of the same pathology and genes that commited the horrors of the old U.S.S.R. that hardly any of U.S. know the facts of. They are BRAZEN now, as they foisted the Trojan Horse of a Non-white invasion on U.S. taking us to the brink. They are insane, and ungrateful too. They have the tens of millons in cash to progandize with, from the media,movies, schools, police, Apostasy churches, and now to shut down the net with our FIRST AMENDMENT rights, that are needed to resist their tyranny. Solzhenitsyn had warned U.S. clearly about this. Clearly I rememeber in 1974 hear N.P.R. talking about Alexander Solzhenitsyn in Vermont and his Nobel prize for the Gulag Archipelgo, and they were hysterical yelling almost that he was a right wing, Christian nut case and severe anti-communist whacko etc.. They are the haters and they do hate the inter-net. As for the attack at Frank Weltner's home, the feds will not be care about it, like any non-white who would complain that white racist did it. We live in a time where a non-white or litigous lesbian can have the federal government go any where for them, as the local police aren't good enough? One more thing [url]www.racetraitor.com[/url] by a Harvard professor, last time I looked over a year ago it called for the abolition of the White race. Oi, it won't be bothered, oi for sure.
2004-04-30 10:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]AOL Time-Warner is a public company. Such political activites are [I]ultra vires[/I] and would seem to violate the fiduciary duty to the shareholders.
I always feel naive when I suggest legal action, in view of the corruption of the establishment, but ventures into court are not utterly hopeless. Unless I'm missing something, AOL Time Warner shareholders have a cause of action for breach of fiduciary duty.
Walter?[/QUOTE]
It's been a while, but wouldn't you have to show material damages to the company's business?
In addition, and again if I recall correctly, the ultra vires argument is pretty much a non-starter these days.
I think that the free speech approach is right. They're operating under a public license, after all, and I think that Tex's analogy to the phone company is apt. Free speech trumps property rights to a limited degree - there's a whole line of cases on political speech in privately owned malls, and that applies all the more so to licensed communications companys acting as public trustees of the telecommunication backbone.
But, since the courts all all owned by ZOG, ultimately that will be unavailing. Ever since the Waco case when they killed the star witness (Carlos Gighliotti) and the judge knuckled under I knew that the clock was ticking on the last vestiges of an independent judiciary. It's just a question of time.
I think that Ygg has the right strategic idea: we need to organize a mass mailing of CD's with our content. Maybe our core competency would be to put content developed by others onto discs and them send them to everybody in the country. A bit grandiose, I know, but that would be the goal.
It would take a lot to remove us from the US mail legally speaking, because if they could do that there really would be no First Amendment left at all. But even that might be criminalized. But as I learned in the years I spent in Russia in the first part of Perestoika, even a totalitarian regime like the USSR (or the Shah of Iran) can't stop a broad resistance movement armed with audio and video cassettes. It's no exaggeration to say that those two technologies took down the Soviet Union (and the brutal Shah Pahlavi), and I think that since we have a much more powerful technology in the DVD that we should be able to take down ZOG.
We definitely need to develop our own propaganda delivery system, and I suspect that this will be done most effectively by mass mailing and hand delivery of our stuff.
The water is approaching the boiling point, I wonder if the froggy will ever jump?
I'll be on the road for a couple of weeks, talk to you then.
Walter