← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · xmetalhead
Thread ID: 13176 | Posts: 22 | Started: 2004-04-14
2004-04-14 19:44 | User Profile
Anyone know? Darn good writer, he was.
2004-04-14 20:00 | User Profile
Have you slept through the "Christian Nationalism" phase?
2004-04-14 20:23 | User Profile
As regrettable as it is, I believe he just couldn't stomach my 'No days-on-end, one-note Johnny, incessant attacking of Christianity' guideline.
2004-04-14 20:56 | User Profile
Was he banned then? Yes, he had strong opinions, but his rhetorical skills were simply unmatched.
2004-04-14 21:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Was he banned then? Yes, he had strong opinions, but his rhetorical skills were simply unmatched.[/QUOTE]
No, no one was banned or even privately warned for that matter. Those that left are no longer here of their own volition. All because they would no longer be able to constantly attack traditional, orthodox Christianity. I think the two members that were the most upset by that board guideline revision were NeoNietschze and Avalanche and I know they did their best to poison the atmosphere as much as possible and turn other members against OD on their way out the door.
I miss IR too and wish he was still posting, but I guess everybody has their priorities and convictions.
2004-04-14 22:16 | User Profile
For the record, there was much more than just that guideline. Like declaring pagan/atheists anti-Christs and enemies of "Christian Nationalists" (i.e. your enemies).
2004-04-14 22:27 | User Profile
Actually I heard that Il Ragno isn't posting because his old friend Alan Dershowitz said this board was becoming too Christian and Falwellish.
Since you're gone and can't respond Raggy, just one more cheap slam for old times sake. :lol:
2004-04-14 22:30 | User Profile
The above Okie's statement is a testament to Spider's rhetorical skills.
2004-04-14 22:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]For the record, there was much more than just that guideline. Like declaring pagan/atheists anti-Christs and enemies of "Christian Nationalists" (i.e. your enemies).[/QUOTE]
Did I say all that? :lol:
The bottom line is that I haven't asked anyone here to provide evidence of baptism in the name of the Triune God, sign their name affirming the Athanasian, Nicene or Apostle's Creed or anything of the sort. As much as I love theological and religious discussion and believe that it underlies everything we do, this is still a political board in essence and that won't change.
Pagans and atheists are anti-Christian and enemies to the extent that they come on this board and start attacking the basic fundamentals of orthodox, traditional Christianity. I don't pretend to know what motivates such folks to do that when they already have so many boards catering to their ideological bent i.e. VNN, Phora, Stormfront, Polinco, etc. etc.
2004-04-14 22:44 | User Profile
I am very grateful, to O.D. Tex, and Mad Russian for keeping trolls out of O.D. At this stage of the battle of good over evil for U.S., we are fighting media lies/brain washing , with a murderous immigration war, using a Trojan Horse called tolerance, as best we can as a White "Nation" should. The haters and destroyers, know they are working to exterminate U.S. whites from any political power, so then they could give U.S. some real action, and move on against dissentients with impunity, as we would have no legal protection left. My point/question is this, why would any forum of a White Patriot, allow the anti white Apostasy annd fake Christians who are professional agitators to post? As this really just keeps the working type tax paying whites from posting. The trolls actions do stop and cripple exchange's of encouragement, hope, solidarity, and political organizing tactics, for what can be done to halt the crisis we face and save U.S. from a 1930's Soviet style system being fully implaced on U.S. The disruptors are "Wasting" precious time which is in short supply by having to reply to their B.S. So any orgainizing of legal political resistance if there is to be ANY at all stymied, as the agitators try to goad poster's too.. So why would Jim Giles, who is an Honest White Patriot and a gentleman, as far as I know and can tell, allow professional white Nation haters to post and monitor R.A. forum till 4 AM mississippi time to be on the forum at all?. I wrote him once about it, and I am not posting there any more or at least for a long while. Also, I have to get help as to why I can't make paragraphs on my p.c. key board, only on Forums, not regular e-mail. So I am not going to post at O.D. too much till I fix this.... Tex, or Mad Russian , if you have any comments on this let me know. Thanks. Smedley..... [url]www.rebelarmy.com[/url] P.S. honest opposition, by whites who are waking up from the media cult fog that has brainwashed U.S. for at least 50 years is fine, and good to hone every ones skills as to the facts of what is going and has been the history of the assault on Western Civlization, but the not professional haters who are nothing, but pedants of obstruction are here for debate and seeking truths.
2004-04-14 22:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Smedley Butler]So why would Jim Giles, who is an Honest White Patriot gentleman, as far as I can tell, allow professional white Nation haters who post and monitor R.A. forum till 4 AM mississippi time to be on the forum at all?.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Smedley. Don't worry about the paragraph thing, your posts are fine.
As for Jim Giles, tell him to give me the admin password and he'll be done with those disruptors on his board in very short order.
2004-04-14 23:31 | User Profile
Tex, thanks very much for your reply.. I sent Jim a note stating what you wrote Tex, I do not know, what he thinks on this issue. Who knows what his reasons/circumstances are in Miss. are for allowing Bolsheviky clever disrupting liar provocateur's to be there 24/7 and that is no joke either, monitoring Rebel Army forum.. The disrupter's do in my view keep ordinary timid people away, and even older good writers who know how the U.S. is being looted etc., from posting, and are looking for truth.....Smedley
2004-04-14 23:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Did I say all that? :lol:
The bottom line is that I haven't asked anyone here to provide evidence of baptism in the name of the Triune God, sign their name affirming the Athanasian, Nicene or Apostle's Creed or anything of the sort. As much as I love theological and religious discussion and believe that it underlies everything we do, this is still a political board in essence and that won't change.
Pagans and atheists are anti-Christian and enemies to the extent that they come on this board and start attacking the basic fundamentals of orthodox, traditional Christianity. I don't pretend to know what motivates such folks to do that when they already have so many boards catering to their ideological bent i.e. VNN, Phora, Stormfront, Polinco, etc. etc.[/QUOTE]
Tex, I totally agree. Anti-Christians are quite disruptive to OD's dialogue of preserving White culture. As a Christian myself, I can take their disagreements with Christianity only in small doses, but there have been some who really take it to the limit, borderline hate, and I just can't understand that. However, I never thought Il Ragno was one of them. In these dire and grievous times, Whites more than ever must put aside religious differences and work towards a unifying strategy in order to have a viable infrastructure after the Collapse, which is rapidly approaching.
2004-04-15 13:09 | User Profile
I miss IR also.
I haven't been posting much, but that really hasn't anything to do with the brouhaha of a while ago. I've been swamped by life in general and not much participating online anymore (tho I'm still keeping an eye on the firearms forum, Tex!). Mostly, I'm suffering from culture-shock fatigue. There's really nothing much more to say as Western culture accelerates towards the bottom of the pit.
But I'm glad OD is still here and kicking.
2004-04-15 14:41 | User Profile
The whole thing is overblown, in my opinion - on both sides. Wisdom and insight are usually tightly wrapped in very thick and unrecognizable, or frightening looking, skin. Ideas aren't associated with sparks and accidents for nothin'.
2004-04-16 06:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]For the record, there was much more than just that guideline. Like declaring pagan/atheists anti-Christs and enemies of "Christian Nationalists" (i.e. your enemies).[/QUOTE]
For the record, that was me, and not Tex.
Tex's position was eminently reasonable - talk about anything, but do so in reasoned tones and knock off the poisonous attacks on the religion of the site's owner.
That insistence on basic civility was too much for some, and so they left the forum. They'll be sadly missed, but I'm sure it was ultimately the best thing all around.
To repeat: it was and is my position that we Christians probably can't be in the same movement with Nazis and Pagans, and that the same could never be trusted. Tex did not say any of those things, at least as far as I recall.
Regards,
Walter
2004-04-16 16:57 | User Profile
Thanks for reiterating your position, Walter. And since Tex started repeating your words without qualification during the "Christian Nationalism" phase of this forum (including the "mission statement" that explicitly excluded non-paleos and non-Christians) , makes one naturally assume he adopted your views, however briefly. I'll believe Tex when he declares his position du jour, but I find it hard to believe that he just failed to qualify his position in all instances of communication with his "enemies" for quite some time.
But this is history now. The end result, this forum has forever lost its former appeal to many as the atmosphere of comeraderie and mutual likes is gone. It's been all worth it to Tex, and that's all that matters as he's footing the bill and maintanence of this.
2004-04-16 17:52 | User Profile
P,
From the get-go I explained my position at length in several threads (see especially my exchanges with Anti-Yuppie). The mission statement or guidelines haven't changed a bit since I edited them to include the Christianity clause. Admittedly, I had to 'fly the flag' of Christian nationalism rather overtly for a while to get the message through to a few thick skulls that were resisting the change.
Just to clarify once again, at no time have I expressly stated or otherwise alluded to excluding non-paleos or non-Christians from participation here. As a matter of fact, I think I've gone to pretty good lengths to make that point known. I can't see how you would continue in this belief. The bottom line is that we had a handful of active members here whose main purpose seemed to solely be the constant attacking and undermining of Christianity and in my opinion it was hampering the entire tone and productivity of the board. Because of this, I felt the tone of OD was not reflective of the value-system I want to have it portray and reflect and therefore the guideline change was necessary.
I am a Lutheran Christian and I don't want OD to be a breeding ground for skeptics, agnostics and anti-God atheists. That's not something I want to contribute to, support and fund, JUST LIKE I DON'T WANT TO DO WITH NEO-CONSERVATISM. Pretty simple, I believe.
Again, I have no ideological litmus test for member participation here. We have neo-con members, atheist members, leftists and probably a Muslim and jew or two. All I ask is that they don't start persistently posting attacks on paleo-conservatism and traditional Christianity. I view those that would do so to be of the same caliber as our old friend David Ben-Gurion or Veronica, for that matter. This isn't Liberty Forum and I know that you know the pitfalls of that board and believe that you don't want OD to become that kind of place.
As to comraderie, well that's a two-way street. When I think of the few members that have left and quit posting, outside of yourself and Il Ragno and a couple of others I think we are better off now that they are gone. I don't have the time or patience to continuously deal with avowed and persistent enemies of the overall ideology of OD. You know that this isn't my full-time job. If you or Il Ragno want to ally yourselves with virulent anti-Christians who really do not want to debate, and leave in protest, well then all I can do is ask you to stay based on our years of friendship and hopefully the trust you have in my character. I'm the same person I was when I started this thing except I grew tired and finally had enough of the endless attacks and ridicule on my Christian beliefs and therefore decided to draw that line in the sand. Nothing else has changed.
2004-04-17 08:07 | User Profile
Really, don't like using one liners, but your reply Tex, is very clear indeed to understand, by any fair man.
2004-04-21 03:28 | User Profile
I miss Wintermute. My, he was yare.
2004-04-21 17:18 | User Profile
A few members of OD who subscribe to the silly religion of atheism demanded the right to ridicule Christians and rant about how Christians are "ignorant" and "irrational." As a result, Tex revised the posting guidelines, and politely requested that people refrain [B]NOT[/B] from attacking Christianity, but from attacking Christianity using unconstructive, nasty, mean-spirited, and hateful rhetoric. This, apparently, was too much for some, so they left.
2004-04-26 07:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Where's Il Ragno? [/QUOTE]
Maybe the dingo et him.