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Allen Torx [OP]

2004-04-13 08:25 | User Profile

---------------<<<>>>--------------- JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER by Rob Sanchez April 12, 2004 - No. 983 ---------------<<<>>>---------------

Three excellent op-eds have been published recently.

1 - Lost Your Job Yet?, by John Pardon

Pardon's op-ed was edited to a much shorter article by Computerworld, but fortunately he sent me the long version to use for this newsletter. It's very well written and I think it is far better than the Computerworld version. Use the Computerworld version for its links, and if you are in too much of a hurry to read the full text version.

2 - The Truth Hurts, By Vicky Davis

Vicky Davis is a technical writer by background and never tried her hand at op-eds before, Her debut is so good that hopefully she will do more of them. Davis comments about a new "India Caucus" forming in the Senate. That will be a topic of another newsletter soon.

3 - Greed Trumps Training, by Dawn Teo

The Tribune webpage this op-ed is on has a bad formatting problem, and the last paragraph isn't there. This newsletter has the full text version so you are better off reading it here than reading it online.


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Lost Your Job Yet?

Opinion by John Pardon

APRIL 12, 2004

Frank Hayes' fears about the widening perception of a declining American IT workforce are already being realised ("ITAA's Job Dream", Computerworld, April 05, 2004 [url]http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/story/0,10801,91892,00[/url] .html). I'm a techie who decided to bail out of the shrinking American IT job market. I concluded that IT is largely a dead-end career for Americans and opted out so that my wife could pursue advanced degrees in education and move up in her career -- one that can't be so readily outsourced or filled by guest workers. I rebelled at my former employer's "wage compression", outsourcing and use of non-immigrant guest workers (H-1b, L-1). Unlike Mr. Hayes, I do not believe that it's widely possible to dodge the offshoring bullet by building up business skills and increasing face time with users. This sounds good but techies are very busy with their present responsibilities which only seem to increase and not long ago Computerworld writers were urging techies to gain new technical skills to prevent job loss. There really isn't much opportunity to become the kind of IT person whose job can't easily be shipped overseas. After all, many of us in the IT workforce have learned the indisputable truth that outsourcing and use of IT guest workers is really all about slashing labor costs -- not increasing the quality of products and services.

I came to these conclusions long before the most recent ITAA "study" which was the subject of Mr. Hayes' article. The public statements and actions of people like Harris Miller of the ITAA, Carly Fiorina of HP, Sam Palmisano of IBM, and NCR's Lars Nyberg and Mark Hurd made it abundantly clear that there were declining opportunities for American IT employment. Many of us in (or formerly in) the IT work force see the writing on the wall. I'm just more fortunate than most in that I was able to walk away from IT and the generally awful job market altogether.

Though people like Harris Miller and Carly Fiorina deny it, there are hundreds of thousands of Americans who have the "knowledge skills" necessary to perform critical work in this information age economy and these Americans are losing their high tech jobs and many cannot find similar work. These displaced workers do not lack for skills or education as Fiorina and Miller publicly state. The existence of these many displaced American high tech workers indicates there is no urgent need for guest workers and no internal shortage of technically trained workers. Technology has not made American IT workers "outmoded". Access to cheaper, more submissive, and "manageable" non-American labor has just made American IT workers undesirable and frequently unemployable. Outsourcing is not a case analogous to horseless carriages rendering buggy whip manufacturers obsolete in an episode of much celebrated creative destruction and technological progress.

I retrained into Information Technology after graduating with a BA in political science and history. Before leaving NCR last year, I had worked in IT for more than decade performing technical writing, web site development, software testing, programming/software engineering, UNIX system administration, and database administration. Everything that I achieved has been the result of personal/financial sacrifice, personal initiative, hard work, long hours, acquisition of complex technical knowledge, and continuing education. Obviously, I am not a person who expects others to manage my career or provide lifetime employment. I do not however expect my government or powerful multi-national corporations to conspire to undermine my employment opportunities and more broadly, eliminate job opportunities for Americans.

As I told Bob Herbert of the New York Times ("Dark Side of Free Trade", NYT, Feb. 22, 2004), I am a moderate conservative now alienated from the Republican Party and the Bush Administration due to free trade, outsourcing and H-1b/L-1 visa programs championed by free trade ideologues. People such as me are often disparagingly referred to as "disgruntled IT workers" by both politicians and many in the news media. Our arguments are dismissed as "sour grapes" and we are told to "face reality". In other words, we are told we should "shut-up and get another job" because outsourcing will continue and it's part of doing business today.

In the public statements of outsourcing proponents (in politics, the media and academia), it is often rather haughtily assumed that the concerns of IT workers are the result of naïve misunderstandings and our fears and employment dislocations are of little relevance. Politicians, pundits, economists, business "leaders" and assorted free trade advocates consider our job losses "unfortunate" but acceptable and excusable in light of the argument that a broader and more important social and economic benefit will (allegedly) accrue to American society due to "free trade". The outsourcing proponents are also notably silent as to what displaced IT workers should do to be "competitive" in this (still) Information Age economy.

The politicians, pundits, economists, wall street analysts, venture capitalists and assorted business "leaders" are either clueless or, more likely, indifferent to the human toll and real impact of outsourcing. The public positions of the Bush administration and most proponents of global free trade and outsourcing (including John Kerry) are woefully inadequate -- completely out of touch with the reality that millions of American IT workers see around them. My experience is just one example of what is really happening in America today.

One year ago, I resigned my IT job with NCR Corporation, a Fortune 500 international corporation headquartered in Dayton, Ohio. I resigned because I was too disgusted and demoralized to continue working in the profession I enjoyed because my employer had made it evident that American workers are expendable, replaceable and disposable no matter how loyal, productive, competent, or well educated. I concluded there was no future for me with NCR or in IT. Like many other corporations, NCR was (and is) indifferent to its American employees and American society. And, like many other companies, NCR has thoroughly embraced the policy of outsourcing. This has translated into the widespread, permanent job eliminations in IT and all back office functions performed by Americans.

In NCR's case, its new outsourcing partners are HCL Technology and Saytam which provide a non-American IT workforce in India. NCR also has a contract with Accenture which leads to a similar outsourcing of jobs from the U.S. And of course, NCR has an NCR India subsidiary which is also hiring a non-American workforce and is not subject to American taxes and workplace laws.

The outcome of free trade/outsourcing is that permanent layoffs and non-immigrant low-wage visa replacement workers became common at my former workplace and all NCR locations in the U.S. (Dayton, Ohio, Peachtree City, Georgia and in California). After watching this trend for 2 years, I gave up on a career in information technology with NCR. I was completely demoralized by my employer's actions and the American corporate trend to fire Americans and move jobs offshore.

I looked for IT employment alternatives outside NCR but the IT jobs in many corportations are also going offshore or being filled by guest workers. It's a dismal job market. Without specialised knowledge and education, I found the jobs available in today's employment market are generally of such low pay as to make the financial compensation minimal when factoring in the cost of quality child care and the opportunity cost for my wife to not pursue post-masters work in education. It made more sense for me, at least for now, to become a full time father and drop out of the workforce altogether. As a family, we do far better for my wife to advance in one of the "outsource-proof" career fields. One result of this is that my rather extensive knowledge, experience and technical skills are no longer available to employers.

Of course "outsourcing" or "offshoring" are now in the news and it is widely known that many formerly-American jobs have gone to places like India, China, and the Philippines. This is an emotional issue and a political issue, no matter how politicians have attempted to evade and obfuscate the topic. What many people inside and outside IT don't realize, or wish to avoid discussing, is that NCR and many other companies, in addition to "outsourcing" are also "insourcing". Companies are importing low-wage non-immigrant H-1b or L-1 visa workers into the U.S. to replace American workers here in our own country. These inherently abusive visa programs are championed by people like Harris Miller, the member companies of the ITAA and utilised by hundreds of multi-national corporations intent upon cutting labor costs.

Like outsourcing, many in the media (and politics) make inaccurate statements regarding H-1b and L-1 visa guest worker programs. These misrepresentations provoke frustration and anger similar to that evoked by the latest ITAA "study". For example, the Washington Post editorial "Cap on Hiring" in the Sunday, February 22, 2004 edition (Page B06) [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60967-2004Feb21.html[/url] states: "It isn't possible to argue that the holders of these visas bring down American wages. No one doubts that they do jobs for which there are clear, well-defined shortages of Americans." This is utter and complete nonsense. Such statements are completely at odds with the reality of how these programs are used to replace American IT workers all over the United States.

Some in Congress obviously believe there is a problem of job loss related to the H-1b and L-1 guest worker programs. On February 4, 2004, the House International Relations committee held a hearing regarding the L-1 visa program ("L Visas: Losing Jobs Through Laissez-Faire Policies?") The testimony of Michael Emmons, Sona Shah, and Patricia Fluno provide first-hand evidence of how L-1 visa holder programs are used by corporations to systematically replace Americans (and green card holders) while abusing the imported visa workers. A complete webcast of the hearing is available at [url]http://wwwc.house.gov/international_relations/fullhear.htm[/url] along with text transcripts of the prepared testimony of Ms. Shah and Ms. Fluno, IT workers who have suffered first-hand from this abusive system. (The comments from Rep. Dana Rohrabacher and Harris Miller makes the webcast well worth a listen.)

The H-1b visa program has long been the subject of criticism; it has long been used as a tool to facilitate outsourcing and circumvent the higher labor costs of American IT workers. Dr. Norman Matloff, professor of computer science at U.C. Davis, has written extensively on this subject and testified before Congress about how the H-1b program has injured American IT workers. Matloff is clear that the H-1b program is premised on misrepresentations and false studies. Dr. Matloff has a new academic article on the subject, in the University of Michigan Journal of Law Reform. This is probably the longest and most detailed academic publication on this topic to date. This paper can downloaded at [url]http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/MichJLawReform.pdf[/url].

My first-hand experience with outsourcing and guest worker replacement programs at NCR provides direct knowledge of these issues. I watched non-American (Indian) workers enter the NCR facilities in the U.S. on H-1B or L-1 visas and receive "knowledge transfers" from American Information Technology ("IT") workers. Then, the Indian replacement workers usually returned to India to do the work previously performed by the Americans who had trained them. On other occasions, the H-1b/L-1 replacement workers remained in the U.S. and continued to perform necessary IT work from the same location, in the same buildings in which the Americans had formerly worked. In both situations, the American IT workers were replaced.

This is not an "urban legend"; I watched this happen along with many other American IT workers. This has happened and is happening all over the United States. Corporations prefer to be secretive about such activities but IT workers have begun to talk. Understandably, Americans who remain in IT jobs often work in fear of job loss since employers now have ready access to low-wage guest workers and have displayed a ruthless unconcern for their American workforce. Most of us who have gone through this experience have finally realized that we are competing with a Third World wage scale while our employers continue to charge "American prices". It is not fair and it is not just but thanks to the actions of the U.S. Congress and successive presidents, it is completely legal.

It should come as no surprise that many politicians and members of the media report Americans are increasingly frustrated and demoralized. Middle class jobs are disappearing. We are losing the Information Age jobs that were supposed to take the place of all the offshored manufacturing and industrial jobs. Many of us in IT hate our employment situation, believe we have no real future in the field and feel betrayed by our employers, corporations and American elected officials. Worse still, there are very few real options for employment outside IT as all middle class jobs are disappearing.

Free trade and outsourcing proponents publicly hold out the option of retraining into other professions but these other professions are mostly unidentified. The reality is, as I told Bob Herbert, that there aren't any new middle class "post-industrial" or "Information Age" jobs for displaced Information Age workers. There are no opportunities to "move up the food chain" or "leverage our experience" into higher "value-added" jobs. (This is why symposiums on IT careers in the era of outsourcing strike many of us as self-serving and fraudulent endeavours designed as window dressing for HR and corporate management.)

The truth is that many displaced IT workers and other displaced "back-office" workers are not able to find work in the white collar sector or even the "blue collar sector. There are however many low-wage low-skilled non-middle class jobs available. There are persistent credible accounts of software engineers taking low-wage unskilled jobs (often holding more than one job) just to survive. (One former colleague is now working in a lumber yard.) This is a major problem for IT workers because, by some estimates, there are nearly a half million unemployed or displaced IT workers in the U.S. And the job eliminations are spreading and widening to include other "back-office" jobs such as accounting, other engineering fields, graphic design and essentially, anything that can be done via computer (effectively narrowing the options for IT workers looking for alternative white collar employment opportunities).

Health care is often cited by outsourcing/free trade proponents as an area in which new jobs are available. Free traders do not care to mention that many white collar workers would see dramatic decreases in their earnings ("wage compression") even if they could afford to undergo the time-consuming and costly retraining necessary to enter the health care profession. Free traders fail to acknowledge that displaced workers are often middle-aged with families, children in school, mortgages and debt; they cannot easily undertake costly retraining programs when they are falling out of the middle class.

In any case, I find it ironic to imagine training software engineers to become health care workers -- to change bedpans and give injections. What a waste of resources and educational capital! What a loss of skills and knowledge to our economy! What a costly betrayal of workers! (Note: even health care may soon be unavailable to American workers as Indians are being recruited in ever larger numbers to fill this employment sector while no new initiatives of any real significance are undertaken to assist Americans to fill these positions. (See "Indian nurses flock to the US" [url]http://in.rediff.com/money/2004/feb/13nurses.htm[/url])

As Mr. Hayes rightly pointed out in his article, if experienced IT workers are so badly hurt by outsourcing and guest worker "insourcing", there is no logical reason why an American college student should study computer science. The opportunities for American employment in IT are poor. This is now reflected in declining American student enrollments in CS, students switching from CS majors, new computer science grads taking work outside the IT field or failing to find work. This may alarm American corporate leaders but they should look in the mirror to place blame; they fund groups such as the ITAA and embrace outsourcing. They have created this situation. Bill Gates' recent public pleas to American students to study CS highlight the absurdity of this situation given Microsoft's role in outsourcing IT work. It's akin to Gates telling young software engineers and programers to "eat code" while he sends IT jobs to China, the site of Microsoft's "offshore development center" or "campus" ("Microsoft, Amid Dwindling Interest, Talks Up Computing as a Career", Steve Lohr, NYT, March 1, 2004). It's quite clear that college students will seek better alternatives than careers locked in "wage compression", outsourcing and competition with imported low-wage workers.

There is very little in this economy to excite enthusiasm in present or would-be IT workers. Like the December figure of 8.2% growth in GDP, the recent "job surge" has had no discernible impact on the IT employment market. This is a "jobless recovery" for Americans seeking IT employment. Let's be honest: the employment market in the U.S. for software engineers and Information Technology workers is miserable and only appears to be getting worse. Outsourcing, H-1B and L-1 visa workers (and soon, the free movement of labor provisions of the latest free trade agreements) are destroying the American Information Age work force.

There is no employment rebound for IT workers. Recent college grads or new entrants into IT can't even get jobs on help desks which are now increasingly moved offshore. The reports from groups such as Challenger, Forester and Gartner all point to increased IT outsourcing and use of IT guest workers. "Global competitiveness" sounds good in corporate boardrooms and political speeches but the reality is that increasing numbers of American IT workers are suffering and losing confidence in our political and business leaders. We are locked in a merciless unrestricted competition with low-wage workers of the Developing World. This is ultimately an unwinnable competition. American IT workers, like many in the middle class, are learning that education, skill and hard work are no longer indicators of success. It's all about cheap labor -- a fact not lost on Harris Miller, Carly Fiorina, Mark Hurd and Sam Palmisano.

We frequently hear the "global competitiveness" argument from people such as Miller, Palmisano, Gates and Fiorina. They imply that American society benefits from "global competitiveness" but the truth is that this is more a justification for ruthlessly eliminating the jobs of American IT workers. People like Miller, Palmisano, Gates and Fiorina have no concern for American workers or American society. Miller, Fiorina and others like them are fixated on cutting costs and increasing short-term corporate profits. They represent a constituency of multi-national corporations (MNCs) which are nominally American only by virtue of their corporate charters and the present changeable composition of their leadership. American IT workers and American society do not participate in the profits and "global competitiveness" of these multi-national corporations with their increasingly non-American workforces.

Global free trade/outsourcing is ultimately, in my opinion, an "emperor with no clothes". As Paul Craig Roberts has discussed in "Clarifications on the Case for Free Trade" ([url]http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=1420&id=65[/url]) and "The Harsh Truth About Outsourcing: It's not a mutually beneficial trade practice -- it's outright labor arbitrage" ([url]http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_12/b3875614.htm[/url]), the premise for free trade to be beneficial to all parties is that some "comparative advantage" must exist for all parties. This is not possible with the full worldwide mobility of labor and capital. The United States, American workers generally and American IT workers in particular, have no "comparative advantage" in the world today. Nations such as China and India command an "absolute advantage" over the U.S. This situation is more than just the result of the "ITAA's fumbled efforts to hype the benefits of offshoring" and if it leads to an IT staffing nightmare for American corporate HR departments, my response is "you reap what you sow."

Sincerely, John Pardon Dayton, Ohio

John Pardon is a former technical writer, software engineer and database administrator who has worked for a number of software development and IT corporations. Since his departure from NCR in early 2003, he has written on the topics of outsourcing and the H-1B and L-1 visa programs, inspired by his own experiences and those of other U.S. IT workers, notably Scott Kirwin, founder of the Information Technology Professionals Association of America ([url]http://www.itpaa.org[/url]), and Michael Emmons. Emmons' [url]http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/index.html[/url] story was told in Computerworld's sister publication, CIO magazine [ "The Radicalization of Mike Emmons"]. [url]http://www.cio.com/archive/090103/people.html[/url]

Pardon can be contacted at [email]jpardon@worldnet.att.net[/email].



Allen Torx

2004-04-13 08:26 | User Profile

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The Truth Hurts

April 9, 2004 By Vicky Davis

When Senator Ted Kennedy said that Iraq is George Bush's Viet Nam, he struck a nerve. The Republicans have been squealing like stuck pigs ever since. The truth hurts.

Obviously the reasons for the two wars were different. What is not different is that we are once again trying to force our way of life on people who don't want it. And what is it that we think we have that is so great anyway?

When our Leaders talk about the gift of democracy and freedom that we are bringing to the Iraqis, they call forth the vision of our Founding Fathers: a democratic republic with a constitutional framework which limits the powers of the federal government, while providing guarantees of freedom for the citizens. What greater gift could there be than a government "of the people, by the people and for the people"?

There may have been a time when we had that, but no longer. A look around at the changes taking place in our country makes one wonder if the men and women who are entrusted with the responsibility for upholding the Rule of Law and the Constitution even think about the principles upon which this country was founded. By their actions, one would have to say they don't.

When we look at our Congress, we see wealthy men and women who sell their votes to the highest bidders. Corporate vote buying in Congress has become so institutionalized that it is not even clear that they recognize how corrupt they really are. In fact, it is so commonplace that one congressman actually mentioned in public that he was offered a bribe for his vote on the Medicare bill. Ultimately he accepted the bribe and is now under investigation by the FBI.

One hundred and fifty members of the U.S. House of Representatives belong to IndiaPAC. IndiaPAC represents the interests of India. Twenty senators recently started their own chapter of IndiaPAC. The Indians have lots of money to buy the votes of Congress since they are draining a significant portion of our economy. Impoverished Americans can vote of course - at least they think they can. It all depends on how many of the hackable computerized voting systems get installed before the next election.

Even the Supreme Court - the ultimate limiting factor on abuses of power in government - has been tarnished. Three of the Supremes gave a presentation some months ago in which they talked about globalization. They said that in one of their cases they used international law as the basis for a decision. Their powers derive from the Constitution. By going outside the bounds of the Constitution to make a decision, they violated it.

Watching George Bush, one sees the carefully cultivated image of a Texas good ol' boy. A friendly, folksy kind of guy, that lies through his teeth with every word spoken and is robbing you blind as he is shaking your hand. He cares so much about protecting the American people that he is implementing a police state to watch their every move. At the same time, he is cutting the budget of the border patrol and port security.

He is installing a corporate government and trading away our national sovereignty. His Labor Department is making it easier for corporations to treat their employees like slave labor - even giving them a How-To guide. He is setting up a federal employment agency for foreigners - to make it easier for corporations to avoid hiring American citizens altogether.

The lies of the Bush Administration even extend to the treatment of our men and women in the military. While George Bush waves the flag and lands on aircraft carriers he cuts the hazardous duty pay of the soldiers, closes veteran's hospitals, cuts the budget for medical care and orders that the bodies be flown home under the cover of darkness. So callous and uncaring is he that he can make jokes about the fact that the war was based on lies. There were no WMD. They knew it - and so far, they have gotten away with it.

Every action of George Bush's administration has been to enrich the wealthy few, empower and subsidize corporations and crush the American people - financially, emotionally and spiritually. The middle class people who support him just haven't been run over by the Bush bulldozer - yet. How Bush and his cronies must laugh at their success at fooling half the people with their lies and fraud, and at the terror and panic felt by the other half of the people who see through them. He and his cronies are laughing all the way to the bank as they pull off the biggest heist in the history of the world - the wealth of our country, the Iraqi oil and our national sovereignty. Revenge is sweet, isn't it George?

We are attempting to impose on the Iraqis what we have - the façade of a democratic republic. Underneath the façade are the decay and stench of a corporate government that cares nothing about people. They care only about money and power. Iraq is indeed George Bush's Viet Nam. They see what our government is, and they are going to fight it to the bitter end. The truth does indeed hurt.

Contact Vicky at [email]Vickyd2@cableone.net[/email]


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Greed trumps training

Dawn Teo of Mesa is public outreach director of the Rescue American Jobs Foundation.

In the article, "Engineers Map Role in Globalization", Jami Shah of the National Science Foundation (NSF) was quoted as saying, "At least high level engineering jobs will remain in this country if students are trained in the right skills and the science foundation invests in research that supports innovation."

India churns out 350,000 engineers each year and has a total population of one billion. One would have to believe that Americans are somehow superior in order to believe that America's comparatively small number of engineers would be able to train themselves to be more capable of doing high-level engineering work than foreign engineers.

In this day and age, how can we still hold such notions that we can be more capable, more innovative, or more qualified? No, we are no better than they are, and they are no better than we are.

But developing countries like India boast an enormous supply of highly skilled labor at a fraction of the cost of American labor. In fact, the India Human Resources Development Minister, Murli Manohar Joshi, sets policy based on the philosophy that labor supply must exceed demand. In other words, their government sets policy to keep unemployment and underemployment high in order to keep labor costs down this policy runs counter to free market theory and is not beneficial to any developing country.

Through such policies, in both India and China, there is a constant oversupply of qualified, English-speaking scientists and engineers, ready and able to do the work of any American engineer for a fraction of the cost. By sheer numbers, cost, and standard of living, American engineers and scientists cannot compete effectively.

If education and training were the answer, as an NSF representative states in the article, then why are qualified American engineers training their replacements? Why does the NSF, supposedly one of the world’s foremost experts on upcoming technology, not yet know what these scientists and engineers should study?

American engineers are already trained and qualified. In fact, American engineers are training their less expensive foreign counterparts to replacement them, and corporations are holding severance pay hostage until replacement training is complete.

If we are to follow the same free market theory that the NSF has long claimed to purport, then we must also allow for markets to self-correct supply and demand within the labor market. When the supply of labor is low and demand is high, salaries will automatically rise to correct the market, and when supply of labor is high, salaries will automatically deflate to correct the market.

Unfortunately since the late 1980s, the NSF has taken a position of forced wage depression through offshore outsourcing and the importation of foreign scientists and engineers, rather than allowing labor markets to self-correct. Many economists believe this to be no less than corporate labor subsidies.

When Ricardo theorized free trade and globalization, he specifically discussed geographic labor pools that utilized comparative advantage. He never meant for people to be traded as labor commodities across geographical lines or for comparative advantage to be used as an excuse for tapping a global pool of cheap, exploitable labor from developing nations.

Dawn Teo Mesa, Arizona

Dawn Teo is the Public Outreach Director of the Rescue American Jobs Foundation ([url]www.RescueAmericanJobs.org[/url]). She also serves on the Board of Directors of NAEA (National Association for the Employment of Americans) and A.W.A.R.E. (American Workforce Alliance for Responsible Economics). She can be reached at [email]dawn@rescueamericanjobs.org[/email] or 480-832-0335.


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xmetalhead

2004-04-13 13:25 | User Profile

Welcome Allen Torx and thanks for these articles. I checked in on Neo-Con radio WABC NY recently, just to keep tabs on what our enemies are saying. One particular vile human being, host Mark Levin, was on rant about how the United States has only lost .05% of jobs since Bush took over!! He claims it's the "liberal media" that's exagerrating the unemployment numbers and that outsourcing really isn't happening.....I swear this is what I heard. It made me even sicker when the yahoo callers started in with their Pavlovian responses. There are dangerous, sick and demented people swarming all over our country and they have a mass media outlet to spew their sickness forth. I damn them all.


Allen Torx

2004-04-13 19:26 | User Profile

Thank you for the welcome.

I too have heard the same blatantly mendacious Neocon blatherings from our local shills in Los Angeles. We have one particular Black Neocon/Libertarian, by the name of Larry Elder, who insists that outsourcing is a myth and believes we actually have a labor shortage.