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Franco [OP]

2004-04-09 22:26 | User Profile

4-9-04

Achilles Heels and Over-Reaching

We were talking to a smart man about Jews, the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on America and Iraq, and he said something that has given us much hope. We will share some of that conversation with you.

The man said, "The Jews have two Achilles heels: one, they are an extremely small minority [e.g. Jews make up only 2.5% of the U.S. population]. And, they always over-reach." We have heard about and seen the latter feature many times. He said that "there is no way that Jews can undo the severe damage to the Jewish community's reputation that has come from, and is going to come from, both the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on America and the Iraq War, i.e. the increasingly popular belief within the West that Jews largely caused both events to happen either directly or indirectly." [1] [2] [3]

"In 1975, maybe the Jews could have hushed-up enough people about such terror/war events that the reputation of the Jews was not damaged. But with millions of people now hooked up to the internet, and with millions of people forwarding information to Uncle Mike and Aunt Martha, and with even paleoconservative websites now pointing some fingers at the Jews, the Jews cannot silence enough people to prevent severe, long-term damage to the reputation of Jews and Israel as a whole."

"And, when the Jews finally realize this, they will again over-reach to try to undo all the damage. It's likely going to be an endless loop: more anti-Semitism, then Jewish over-reaching, then more anti-Semitism..." on so on.

Furthermore, Israel is losing popularity both world-wide and in the U.S. as well, at least as far as the public is concerned.

We feel that the conclusions above -- about the two Jewish Achilles heels and what they will lead to -- are indeed correct.

[1] an example of an Arab attempting to attack an American target due to America's support of Israel: [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/30/attack/main538527.shtml[/url] [near the bottom of the page]

[2] about Jewish neoconservatives/the Middle East: [url]http://www.fpp.co.uk/BoD/origins/MacDonald180903.html[/url]

[3] Osama bin Laden saying that the American government is Jewish-influenced/Jewish-controlled: [url]http://www.coastalpost.com/98/10/6.htm[/url] [near the bottom of the page]



Ponce

2004-04-10 01:29 | User Profile

If I didn't believe in "The Force", some people call it God, then I would make the Internet into my God. I have learn more here about the Jews and the truth than I have ever done in my entire life.

As we all know the Jews are able to control what we read by obtaining ownership of the news media, newspapers, magazines, TV, radio and so on.

The only thing that they haven't been able to control is the Internet, it does not mean that they haven't tried, and that's why we now now know so much about those people.

I was really amaze to learn that the Jews were the founders of the Communist Party,,,,, here we were fighting the commies for over 50 years and all the time they were walking among us,,,,,,,like the night of the living dead.

I also learned that at one time the Jewish flag was flying alongside the Nazi flag, and that the big shot Nazi members visited Palestine in order to help the Zionists settle in their new homes.


TexasAnarch

2004-04-10 06:41 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]If I didn't believe in "The Force", some people call it God, then I would make the Internet into my God. I have learn more here about the Jews and the truth than I have ever done in my entire life.

As we all know the Jews are able to control what we read by obtaining ownership of the news media, newspapers, magazines, TV, radio and so on.

.[/QUOTE]

I've got to second that. I had called "over-reaching" (a better, more succinct term) "they can never get enough" -- endless need for reassurance of the 'right to be'. Which Christians, and even Americans in general, don't have that much of a problem with.. I had previously viewed it as just residual WWII group-trauma, but have come to understand (through MacDonald, others here, mainly) it is a lot more than that. Only a year ago, my heart bled to think of it. Sometimes still comes back, as I suppose happens for others, too. How....?


Paleoleftist

2004-04-10 12:26 | User Profile

[QUOTE=TexasAnarch]I've got to second that. ...endless need for reassurance of the 'right to be'. Which Christians, and even Americans in general, don't have that much of a problem with.. I had previously viewed it as just residual WWII group-trauma, but have come to understand (through MacDonald, others here, mainly) it is a lot more than that. [/QUOTE]

Same with me. It took me a LONG time (and Prof. MacDonald) to figure out that "Right-to-be", as defined by THEM, means nobody else´s right to be (as a group). I guess 90% in our camp would settle for live and let live, but a majority in their camp won´t.


Texas Dissident

2004-04-10 18:04 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Paleoleftist]I guess 90% in our camp would settle for live and let live, but a majority in their camp won´t.[/QUOTE]

Striking point, PL.


Walter Yannis

2004-04-11 07:47 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Paleoleftist]Same with me. It took me a LONG time (and Prof. MacDonald) to figure out that "Right-to-be", as defined by THEM, means nobody else´s right to be (as a group). I guess 90% in our camp would settle for live and let live, but a majority in their camp won´t.[/QUOTE]

I just sent my brother "Jewish History, Jewish Religion" and "Culture of Critique." During a recent visit home he expressed his extreme disgust at the way Jews attacked our Holy Catholic Faith in the flap surrounding Gibson's "Passion of Christ." He's thus far responded very positively - he said of the Shahak book's description of Orthodox Judaism's pagan beliefs "wow, I had no idea they believed that. I thought they were monotheists. These rotten bastards . . . "

This from a guy who had some very harsh things to say to his own big brother for even bringing the topic up until very recently. He'll likely read CoC next, but I don't expect the same response to that book, but who knows? Progress it is, but man it's like pulling teeth.

Gibson's film may have done more good than we've yet realized. I've had similar responses from other of my unwitting students. I really find that when a Christian is disgusted by Rabbi Foxman's frontal assault on our Faith is given the Shahak book, they never look at the world the same again. I advise to hit them with it now.

Walter


Blond Knight

2004-04-12 04:40 | User Profile

Check out this article fron Edgar Steele over on the Real World Activism thread.

[url]http://forums.originaldissent.com/showthread.php?t=13141[/url]


N.B. Forrest

2004-04-12 07:33 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]I just sent my brother "Jewish History, Jewish Religion" and "Culture of Critique." During a recent visit home he expressed his extreme disgust at the way Jews attacked our Holy Catholic Faith in the flap surrounding Gibson's "Passion of Christ." He's thus far responded very positively - he said of the Shahak book's description of Orthodox Judaism's pagan beliefs "wow, I had no idea they believed that. I thought they were monotheists. These rotten bastards . . . "

Walter[/QUOTE]

Yeah, all that jew jive about the "First Cause" and the sheckies fervently praying for Small Face to once again enjoy horizontal refreshments with his sister Shekinah is quite an eye-opener, to say the least. :dung:


Walter Yannis

2004-04-12 09:19 | User Profile

[QUOTE=N.B. Forrest]Yeah, all that jew jive about the "First Cause" and the sheckies fervently praying for Small Face to once again enjoy horizontal refreshments with his sister Shekinah is quite an eye-opener, to say the least. :dung:[/QUOTE]

Indeed. Shahak's book is really subversive, because it exposes "Judeo-Christianity" as an oxymoron. And it was written by a very reputable Jewish academician who was a Holocaust survivor. There's no reasonable doubt as to his good motivations vis a vis both Jews and gentiles.

The more we can train our people to see a Jew like Liberman and immediately make the connection to virulently hostile paganism, the better off we will be.

It's great to see you back here on OD, NBF.

Walter


Ponce

2004-04-12 22:44 | User Profile

On Thursday, top Israeli military and intelligence chiefs met in Tel Aviv to discuss the "deterioration of the security situation in Iraq" and its possible ramifications on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Some Israeli commentators have highlighted the "striking similarity" between what the Americans are doing in Falluja, Baquba, and Ramadi on the one hand and what the Israeli occupation army has been doing in Rafah, Khan Yunis and Jenin."When I turn to Aljazeera, I need a few minutes to realise that this is Iraq not Palestine," said Uri Avnery, a veteran Israeli journalist and commentator.

In an interview with Aljazeera.net, Avnery pointed out Israel was anxious about the shifting sands in Iraq because it stood to lose if its ally and guardian lost in Iraq."Any success of the armed Iraqi resistance will have negative repercussions for the Israeli occupation of Palestine."

He pointed out that the American occupation forces were acting exactly like the Israeli occupation forces and that they were making the same mistakes and committing the same crimes."For some mysterious and deep-rooted reasons, the Americans think like Israel. They have the same mentality and will be condemned to the same conclusion."