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Thread ID: 12991 | Posts: 11 | Started: 2004-04-02
2004-04-02 15:20 | User Profile
WHY I AM A LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL SOCIALIST GREEN PARTY MEMBER
My outlook is for the most part in agreement with the material there.
While I can't speak for the group, I believe the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party (in many ways, a postmodern reinterpretation of the historical NSDAP) is about bringing about a more traditional form of society and government while keeping a progressive attitude regarding human quality as well as cultural and scientific achievement. The party emphasizes ecological responsibility, ethnocultural nationalism, naturalist eugenics, and collectivist meritocracy.
Basically we want a greener and more traditional society free from the absolute hegemony of technology and money. We want a world where individuals exist essentially as communal members of a tribe rather than as alienated consumers in a normalized commerce-dictated global society. We also want to see the best members of each tribe to rise to the top of their communities and gain independence from society (the herd) and authority (the state) as long as they don't threaten collective goals or ecological stability.
I don't "hate blacks" and do not view them as "inferior" but I don't think they belong in Indo-European society. They fall behind 15-20 IQ points on average and are more inclined towards impulsive and violent behavior. I don't judge them on this basis but at the same time their collective behavior is unacceptable for Indo-European society. Likewise, I don't think whites belong in Africa and that they should be repatriated to North America.
It is not entirely a question of behavior, however, since, for example, northeast Asians conform fairly well to European standards. What is more essential than social standards is that we do not wish to be assimilated and wish to maintain and enhance the traits which distinguish us as Indo-Europeans. Therefore we believe that it is preferable for populations to remain separate.
We believe that it is right and just for everyone to retain their ancient heritage and that no people should be forced to conform to a universal standard whether it is cultural, racial, or ideological. We believe absolute universalism and moralism has its origins in Middle Eastern religious dualism (i.e., Judaism, Christianity, and, to a lesser extent, Islam) and so we are particularly suspicious of them and of their modern secular offshoots (e.g., humanism, liberalism, marxism, etc).
To learn more about the party check out the main page ([url]http://www.nazi.org[/url]).
[url]http://www.nazi.org/current/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=Chat;action=display;num=1080800062[/url]
2004-04-02 16:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Craig Smith]...the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party (in many ways, a postmodern reinterpretation of the historical NSDAP) is about bringing about a more traditional form of society and government while keeping a progressive attitude regarding human quality as well as cultural and scientific achievement. The party emphasizes ecological responsibility, ethnocultural nationalism, naturalist eugenics, and collectivist meritocracy.
Basically we want a greener and more traditional society free from the absolute hegemony of technology and money. We want a world where individuals exist essentially as communal members of a tribe rather than as alienated consumers in a normalized commerce-dictated global society. We also want to see the best members of each tribe to rise to the top of their communities and gain independence from society (the herd) and authority (the state) as long as they don't threaten collective goals or ecological stability. [/QUOTE]
Wow! Where do I sign up??
Their entire platform is so.....cozy and sensitive. Who's the presidential nominee? Deepak Chopra or Shirley MacLaine?
:lol: :caiphas:
2004-04-10 03:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Wow! Where do I sign up??
Who's the presidential nominee? Deepak Chopra or Shirley MacLaine?
:lol: :caiphas:[/QUOTE]
jane fonda would do nicely
2004-04-10 12:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Craig Smith]WHY I AM A LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL SOCIALIST GREEN PARTY MEMBER [/QUOTE]
Libertarian- National Socialist- Green? This sounds like something that could be an invention of Bill White.
Wait a tick, I have a brainwave: If I am not very much mistaken, this IS an outfit of Bill White. :biggrin: Who could have guessed that? :rolleyes:
2004-04-10 12:44 | User Profile
What's a nazi post doing in a WN forum? That's about as accurate as calling the GOP conservative?
Also, if nazis are truly advocates of "collectivism" (ie. communism), they are advocates of the left, not the right...another misconception. Someone help correct me with some facts if I am wrong, but redistribution of wealth is not a conservative view, and white nationalism does not need the redistribution of wealth to thrive. It is from most whites, that the wealth is stolen to redistribute. It looks like people keep wrapping turds in sugar and saying how great they taste.
2004-04-25 01:41 | User Profile
No National Socialist would call themselves a "Nazi," except in jest.
2004-05-07 10:39 | User Profile
The gravity of the situation that we're all facing demands tough thought and a sharp mind. And courage. Did anyone who replied to this thread actually visit the [url="http://www.nazi.org/party/theory/"]website?[/url] Did you feel you already knew better, so you didn't have to?
I'm not calling out any one in particular here because I chose these for examples: [QUOTE]Also, if nazis are truly advocates of "collectivism" (ie. communism), they are advocates of the left, not the right...another misconception.[/QUOTE]There's a fundamental difference between National Socialism and Communism. The terms and concepts are commonly conflated. Socialist practice varies, but is basically this: your clan/tribe/society looks out for its own. Your enemy is doing it for theirs, and they're killing us. The cream rises to lead, the broken and less-able are not allowed to fall through the cracks. Analogous to a platoon on a run, where the strongest carry the guidon, call time and lead while no one is allowed to drop out or quit. Are the Army Rangers or the Marines "commies" for working as a team? Social justice is based on code, integrity and common aspirations.
Communism levels everyone narrowly (a simplification of theory, in practice a sham) across society without regard to gradiation and merit. Structurally doomed.
Green sounds all warm and fuzzy, like hairy armpits on a chai-sipping vegan hippy-chick. Fact is: like it or not, the Environment matters, and is being laid to waste by the same locusts that are slowly sucking us dry. You cannot have social justice without envronmental justice or vice-versa. Our European ancestors understood the power of the land in a way the locust tribe never will.
[QUOTE]Someone help correct me with some facts if I am wrong, but redistribution of wealth is not a conservative view, and white nationalism does not need the redistribution of wealth to thrive. It is from most whites, that the wealth is stolen to redistribute...[/QUOTE]Fact: We're all really quite poor. Do you have $100 Million? Not even close to making it out. Relative to those who now bind you, you'll never EVER catch up. You always have only as much as they let you have. Are you still worried about taxes? You're not supporting crack-moms on welfare, you're buying protection for the ones who own us.
Winners work together to succeed. Are any of you masters of knowledge? Sarcastically dismissing legitimate members for presenting a challenging approach smells like laziness and weakness. If you doubt that we're facing an epic crisis as a people, then you're not getting the message and you're hurting the team.
2004-05-07 20:09 | User Profile
What's a nazi post doing in a WN forum? That's about as accurate as calling the GOP conservative?
Also, if nazis are truly advocates of "collectivism" (ie. communism), they are advocates of the left, not the right...another misconception.
Nazism is White nationalism.
Also, what does "left" or "right" mean today, in 2004? What is a "rightist" conserving if he embraces Big Global Capitalism which is wrecking our White culture, or, if he feels that women being in Congress and being in the workplace is o.k.?
2004-05-07 20:18 | User Profile
Also, if nazis are truly advocates of "collectivism" (ie. communism),
Communism is a bogus, Jewish-created-and-spread ideology that preaches that humans are equal and that the state will eventually 'whither away." Bwa-ha-ha-ha.
Nazism, however, is or was "using the force/power of the state to keep the race and culture of a country White because the citizens will, in the end, become soft via liberalism and feminism and will eventually allow Blacks and Browns and Jews and women to overrun the country."
Leftists used the power of the state to wreck America. The state is the only power that can, by force/law, keep a country White. Had our Founding Father such as Thomas Jefferson and George Washington used force, or a clearly written law, to ensure America's future Whiteness we would not be in our current mess.
I do not understand how anyone could equate Nazism with Communism. Where did you learn that?
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2004-05-08 02:03 | User Profile
Maybe I'm misconceiving something here, but one of the flaws in Nazism as I see it is its emphasis on hierarchical, centralized government. If that is not a key aspect of Nazism, then someone can set me straight. But in any case, I don't like the idea of too much power being placed in too few hands. After all, what's to stop those who acquire the reins of power from becoming corrupt? What's to stop them from selling out the entire population? We know that it happens; it's not like there's any shortage of shabbos goyim in the US today. What if one of them were to gain control over a nation of Whites? He could sabotage everything or somehow exploit the entire nation for his own selfish gain.
There's nothing wrong with some degree of collectivism in society, and it can be very beneficial, but I think it has to be inculcated naturally in a population. You can't force people to feel a sense of community. Perhaps that sense will come as a byproduct of the creation of a racially homogeneous state. The problem with communism and other forms of forced collectivism is that they attempt to legislate against human nature; for example, they assume that people can simply be commanded to care more about the good of the whole collective than about themselves and their immediate families. Of course that will never really be the case. The ideal government works in harmony with human nature, not in opposition to it.
2004-05-11 04:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]... one of the flaws in Nazism as I see it is its emphasis on hierarchical, centralized government. ... The ideal government works in harmony with human nature, not in opposition to it.[/QUOTE] I agree with you entirely & this is much of what I struggle with. What you wrote probably represents our best hope and the biggest challenge we all face. That is, next to ripping our freedom and our societ(ies) back in the Second American Revolution.