← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Ed Toner
Thread ID: 12759 | Posts: 21 | Started: 2004-03-16
2004-03-16 19:45 | User Profile
Slainte Gael - UP THE REPUBLIC!
My TriColor has replaced Old Glory for the occasion.
A bit of history regarding the Irish Contributions to the USA.
The Declaration of Independence was written in the fine hand of Irish born Charles Thompson.
First read to the people in the fine brogue of John Nixon, another Irish born citizen.
It was printed by John Dunlap, born in Ireland.
It bears the signatures of 7 Irishmen; Charles Carroll MD, Thomas Lynch SC, Thomas McKean DE, Robert Paine MA, George Read DE, James Smith PA, George Taylor, also of PA, and Mathew Thornton NH.
The Great Seal of the USA was designed by Charles Thompson of Co. Derry who was Secretary of The Continental Congress during it's entire existence.
The White House was designed by James Hoban who emigrated from Co. Kilkenny in 1785. He supervirsed its completion, and following its destruction by the British in 1814, Hoban directed its reconstruction.
Thereafter, The State and War Offices, begun in 1818, were designed by him, and he assisted in the design and construction of the U.S Capital. Hoban also served as a member of The Washington City Council from its incorporation in 1812 until his death in 1831.
The first armed attack against the British was the capture of arms and ammunition at Portsmouth NH, 4 months before the Battle of Lexington. The attack was led by John Sullivan (afterwards Major General), a son of Owen Sullivan of Co. Limerick. The first decicive victory for our side was won at Moore's Creek Bridge Wilmington NC on 12 Feb. 1776, when 1,500 Tories surrendered to the troops under the command of Col. (Later to become General) James Moore, a descendant of Roger O'Moore, a leader of the Irish Rebellion of 1641. The first General Officer to die was Gen. Richard Montgomery, who fell while leading the attack on Quebec Dec. 31 1775. He was born in Co. Donegal. Washintons army had 17 Irish Generals.
The First Commodore of the US Navy was John Barry, of Co. Wexford. I had the honor and privilege of being quartered in Barry Hall, the last 2 years of my stay at the USMMA, Kings Point.
Slante Gael!
Up The Republic!
Herself and Meself [url]http://moregleny.com/thetoners[/url]
Mary retains her Irish citizenship to this day. I met her in a Dublin pub on my first layover as an Aer Lingus Pilot back in 1958.
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Among are sons are Patrick Sarsfield and Kevin Barry. [url]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13478a.htm[/url]
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I may get a bit drunk. Farts produced from Guinness and cabbage are among the most voulumous I have ever experienced.
Life is good.
God Bless All Here!
Protect your loved ones. Put them in a humidor.
2004-03-17 06:15 | User Profile
Happy St. Patrick's Day, m'kushla!
Walter
2004-03-17 15:39 | User Profile
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2004-03-18 08:46 | User Profile
Ed, thanks for your post and blessings of good health to you, and as St.Patrick drove the Serpent's from Ireland, your duty working to drive/control them out from the U.S. is the work of a neo-Irish Saint. Salute! Ha!
2004-03-18 09:06 | User Profile
Same to you, Ed. It really is a pity the way Christianity has torn Ireland apart, as well as the way it tore it away from its White, English [url=http://www.spearhead.com/0001-jt3.html]brothers[/url].
2004-03-18 09:23 | User Profile
Okay, I read it."Brothers" So what, now Congoid's should not be barred or deported and perhaps Ireland can get some of those semetic special hate speech law's too? Our whole legal system in the entire Western World has been hatefully perverted with malice intent against all the European people and descendant's from AU.to the U.S. and especially with Canada and Talmudic Touture of Ernst Zundel.
2004-03-18 09:27 | User Profile
I don't know what you're talking about. All I am saying is the White peoples of the British Isles should not be divided. Maybe you prefer that they be divided. That's your thing.
2004-03-18 09:28 | User Profile
United. Agreed. World wide.
2004-03-18 09:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Smedley Butler]United. Agreed. World wide.[/QUOTE]
:thumbsup:
2004-03-18 13:43 | User Profile
Going back to 8,000 BC to make a point is a bit of a stretch.
LOOK at the people for proof. They are different from the English. That "Irish face" is not a myth. Irish Americans who marry with other Irish produce children who have that "Irish look" about them. You could see it in yesterday's parade. They stood out distinctly, and were immediatley recognizeable. So did the imitators like Koch and Bloomberg with Arran sweaters.
It was sickening to see practically no Irish faces from the Bronx, just muds, parading in green.
2004-03-18 20:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ed Toner]Going back to 8,000 BC to make a point is a bit of a stretch.
LOOK at the people for proof. They are different from the English. That "Irish face" is not a myth. Irish Americans who marry with other Irish produce children who have that "Irish look" about them. You could see it in yesterday's parade. They stood out distinctly, and were immediatley recognizeable. So did the imitators like Koch and Bloomberg with Arran sweaters.
It was sickening to see practically no Irish faces from the Bronx, just muds, parading in green.[/QUOTE]
True enough. I don't agree with that article 100% (or even 50%). Yes the peoples of the British Isles have their differences (ethnic, cultural, language), and that's good -- as long as they always remember that they're White people first. I visited the British Isles once (it's the only foreign country I've ever been to, outside of Canada). The one thing the people do have in common is their warmth and friendliness (I know that sounds incredibly corny, but it's the truth).
I just find it divisive when some people try to claim that the Irish are practically a different species from the English. An Irishman has much more in common with an Englishman, a Scotsman, and a Welshman, then he does with a Negro, Chinaman, or a Mestizo. The hatred between Irish and English was largely religious in nature. That's what I was getting at.
And I agree with your comments about the parade.
2004-03-19 15:09 | User Profile
Kurt-
I agree with your thoughts about this issue. I am part-Irish myself, but perhaps due to the overwhelming presence of Germanic blood in me, I do not lean towards the Irish side. The idea of the Irish being a different "species" is well known; there have been books, articles, etc., that have hinted at an Irish "race", for which there is no such thing.
It has always been my belief that Englishmen, like Irishmen, are not homogenous. You have Englishmen that can be dark-haired and extrememly short (Davy Jones, Dudley Moore e.g.) and tall and blond/brown, and some with red hair and freckles. This can also be found in every other country of the British Isles. I have no use for this notion that the Irish are a separate group of people than other British Islanders, and that is because it all boils down to religion, the great social divider. If Ireland was a Protestant majority, there would be no mention of this ideology.
2004-03-19 15:29 | User Profile
Having travelled throughout the Island, I see no outward differences in the appearance of the population.
2004-03-19 19:59 | User Profile
From my book:
[QUOTE]Much of modern economics, most particularly the branch best represented by Milton Friedman, has owed its origin to Adam Smith and the publication of his book, [I][B]The Wealth of Nations[/B][/I], in 1776, the year of the Declaration of Independence by the United States Congress. This great man, unlike many of the pabulum speakers of today, was not afraid to speak his mind. Mr. Smith, though of Edinburgh, took exception to the claim by Scots that eating of oatmeal was a heartier food than the wheaten bread of England. Mr. Smith noted that Scots in general were not so handsome or strong as the equivalent rank in England. However, [I][B]Mr. Smith thought the coal heavers, porters, and unfortunate women who lived by prostitution and potatoes to be the strongest and best looking in the British dominions. These individuals were drawn from the lowest ranks of Ireland and were nourished by the root vegetable taken from the new world. [/B] [/I] Mr. Smith made this assessment some seventy years prior to blight of potatoes in Ireland.
Somewhat of a cynic Mr. Smith thought the freeing of slaves by Quakers would not have occurred if slaves had constituted a significant part of the wealth of Quakers. Proud of being a British subject Mr. Smith did note that dancing and singing were the great amusements of all barbarous nations and great accomplishments in these endeavors supposedly fit a man for entertaining his society. Mr. Smith said that it was so for the Negroes who lived on the coast of Africa, and it was true for the ancient Celts and Greeks. What would he say for the America of the 1990's?[/QUOTE]
2004-03-21 03:55 | User Profile
and I suggest a moment of prayer for one of the greatest Italians who ever lived, Saint Patrick.
2004-03-21 15:34 | User Profile
Patricio was kidnapped by the Irish on a raid. He was about 8, very bright. He and his captors got along well, and when he used a Shamorck to explain Christianity to the pagan Chieftans, they understood. The father, son, and holy ghost all coming from a single stem.
The snakes figured it was time to leave.
2004-03-21 17:47 | User Profile
too bad for Ireland, negroes are moving into the country in droves. Sickening. As a part-irishman myself, it's disgusting.
Jay
2004-03-21 23:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Robbie]It has always been my belief that Englishmen, like Irishmen, are not homogenous. You have Englishmen that can be dark-haired and extrememly short (Davy Jones, Dudley Moore e.g.) and tall and blond/brown, and some with red hair and freckles. This can also be found in every other country of the British Isles.[/QUOTE]
This reminds me of a theory I've been bouncing around inside my head for many years, but which I just recently became convinced is at least 50% true, based on a nature special I saw on PBS. You see, the North American King Snake (or whatever its called; the so-called "King" snake that is known for dining on other, adult snakes and which is commonly associated with its dramatic coloration bands reminiscent of those of the venemous Coral Snake) has a very interesting set of characteristics pertaining to its coloration. Apparently, while "King" snakes are associated with the bold coloration I referenced in my paranthetical, there are, in fact, several very diverse variations (which is to say, they look nothing alike) of that coloration. They are all members of the same species, but their coloration is radically different. While this could be explained away as differing sub-species, apparently the different coloraton patterns are latent within the breeding stock of each specimen i.e., two "King" snakes with the "Coral" snake-style of coloration could mate and give birth to an entirely differently colored set of offspring. Scientists claim that this is because "King" snakes are a newly-emerging species (hence one might tend to suspect them of being a superior species, especially in light of their clear physical superiority to other snakes i.e., they kill and eat them) and that as such, their permanent coloration pattern, if you will, has yet to be fully hashed out via the processes of evolutionary biology.
Basically, what I am suggesting is that Aryans/Whites/Europids are much like the North American King Snake i.e., they are a newly-emerging (and vastly superior) sub-species (perhaps later to emerge further as an altogether new species) that also has yet to establish a rigid pattern of coloration. When I was six years old, and my Atheistic father taught me the theory of evolution, it was immediately clear to me that a race of people (Whites) that have blonde, brown, black and red hair are clearly superior to other races (nearly all racial and ethnic groups) that all have the same color hair (black). The same applies to eye color, where they all have brown eyes, while we Whites have brown, blue, green or other colored eyes....
2004-03-26 08:17 | User Profile
Interesting theory, Kevin. This may be why I don't have a problem with the theory that human beings originated in Africa. I mean, [u]all[/u] life on Earth must be related in some way. The way I see it, the more intelligent Homo-Sapiens left Africa, while the less intelligent ones remained there (The most intelligent of all became Caucasians).
Now, getting back to Ireland, and the religious angle, Irish Protestants had it pretty easy -- both in Ireland and the US -- compared to Irish Catholics. Even English Catholics (such as [url=http://58.1911encyclopedia.org/P/PO/POPE_ALEXANDER.htm]Alexander Pope[/url]) were persecuted, so you can imagine how badly Irish Catholics were treated.
[FONT=Arial Narrow]Just looking at a map of the British Isles, you can't tell me there wasn't any kind of "mixing" going on, considering how close the countries are to one another... [/FONT] [img]http://www.tree-register.org/places_to_visit/images/uk-map2.gif[/img]
2004-03-26 22:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jay]too bad for Ireland, negroes are moving into the country in droves. Sickening. As a part-irishman myself, it's disgusting.
Jay[/QUOTE]
Yes, it is disgusting. It breaks my part-Irish heart to see [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/europe/1369247.stm]what is happening to Eire[/url], one of the jewels of the White Race.
[FONT=Arial Narrow]We need a new St. Patrick to drive the non-Whites out of Ireland.[/FONT]
2004-03-27 05:59 | User Profile
[CENTER]The Luck of the Irish
If you had the luck of the Irish You'd be sorry and wish you were dead You should have the luck of the Irish And you'd wish you was English instead!
A thousand years of torture and hunger Drove the people away from their land A land full of beauty and wonder Was raped by the British brigands! Goddamn! Goddamn!
If you could keep voices like flowers There'd be shamrock all over the world If you could drink dreams like Irish streams Then the world would be high as the mountain of morn
In the 'Pool they told us the story How the English divided the land Of the pain, the death and the glory And the poets of auld Eireland
If we could make chains with the morning dew The world would be like Galway Bay Let's walk over rainbows like leprechauns The world would be one big Blarney stone
Why the hell are the English there anyway? As they kill with God on their side Blame it all on the kids the IRA As the bastards commit genocide! Aye! Aye! Genocide!
If you had the luck of the Irish You'd be sorry and wish you was dead You should have the luck of the Irish And you'd wish you was English instead! Yes you'd wish you was English instead! [/CENTER]