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Thread ID: 12421 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2004-02-20
2004-02-20 11:08 | User Profile
[B]ââ¬ÅAnti-Racistsââ¬Â Say Lord of the Rings ââ¬ÅEurocentricââ¬Â[/B]
By Sam Francis
[url]http://www.vdare.com/francis/lotr_racist.htm[/url]
The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is a self-appointed "watchdog" organization in Montgomery, Alabama that purports to keep a sharp eye out for "racism" and "hate."
Despite its name, it doesn't seem to have much to do with either the South or the law, let alone poverty, other than avoiding the latter for its own officers, most of whom reportedly pull down six-figure salaries for themselves.
But this week its well-paid but merciless eye fell upon a target not usually associated with "hate"ââ¬âthe immensely popular and widely praised epic film series "Lord of the Rings," the last installment of which is now showing at your local Bijou and has been nominated for no fewer than 11 Academy Awards.
The SPLC's website, tolerance.org, last week reprinted an op-ed from Pacific News Service by Andrea Lewis, a San Francisco based writer who has discovered that at least the current film in Peter Jackson's stunning cinematic version of the three-volume novel by J.R.R. Tolkien should really have been named "The Return of the Patriarchy."
There just aren't enough fighting females in the movie for Miss Lewis, but she also doesn't like it because "Almost all of the heroes of the series are manly men who are whiter than white" and "exude a heavenly aura of all that is Eurocentric and good. Who but these courageous Anglo-Saxon souls can save Middle Earth from the dark and evil forces of the world?"
Perhaps you begin to catch her drift.
Miss Lewis thinks "Lord of the Rings" is bad because it reflects white racial and patriarchal stereotypes, and as a matter of fact, it probably does.
That's because those "stereotypes" are integral to the complex tale of civilizational struggle that Tolkien was telling, a tale that thoroughly modern multiculturalists would prefer had never seen cold print because it also happens to be the tale of our real civilization.
It's the tale of our real civilization because the kings, warriors and heroes who led us have always been manly men who really were whiter than white, and that just might have had something to do with why they won the struggle against their civilization's enemies, medieval and modern, at all.
That, of course, is what Miss Lewis and her pals at the SPLC don't like.
What they do like is "The Matrix," the endless, tedious and incomprehensible special effects film series for teeny boppers that features the non-white and mixed race heroes Miss Lewis and her multiculturalist friends demand. As she writes in comparing the two films:
"Neo, the [Matrix] trilogy's central figure, is played by mixed-race actor Keanu Reeves. His savior and mentor is Morpheus (Laurence Fishburne), a powerful leader who also happens to be a black man. The wisest figure in 'The Matrix' is the Oracle, a warm and witty African American woman.
"The films also are infused with a strong sense of Asian style and culture, exemplified by the character Seraph (Collin Chou) who is both a martial arts expert and Buddhist meditation practitioner."
Perhaps here too you catch her drift.
The drift is that what Miss Lewis and the SPLC boys who chose to reprint her article like is not "tolerance" and what they oppose is not "hate."
What they oppose is any positive portrayal of white people.
What they like is any production that writes whites out of the picture.
Well, not entirely. Another reason Miss Lewis likes "The Matrix" is that it depicts whites as villains.
"Most of the really bad guys in 'The Matrix'," she gloats, "are Euro," including a Frenchman, two British albino twins and "a rather stuffy and pompous white guy with white beard and white suit who reeks of imperialism."
What she really approves of is any production that not only demotes whites from heroic roles but serves to demonize them in new anti-white stereotypes. Nothing more clearly exposes the SPLC's real anti-white agenda than Miss Lewis' silly article. The "multiculturalism" that obsesses her and the SPLC is just as steeped in hateââ¬âof whitesââ¬âas any of the goof balls they "investigate" (and maybe a good deal more). It's just hate of a different hue.
The fact is that "Lord of the Rings" is an important, beautiful and entirely healthy movie, more or less faithfully based on an important, beautiful and entirely healthy book, which itself draws from some of the deepest springs of Western cultureââ¬âthe myths and folklore of Northern Europeââ¬âand tells an important, beautiful and entirely healthy story that white Western men need to hear.
That story is about how the enemies of their civilization were crushed by manly men (and hobbits) who had the strength and courage to fight back.
I understand why people like Miss Lewis and the SPLC don't much care for it.
2004-02-20 19:08 | User Profile
I knew there was a reason I liked it. :clap:
(note: the following is just [u]my[/u] interpretation. I don't know or care what Tolkien's intentions were in writing LOTR, so don't bother telling me.)
The Ring represents Jewish control (control of the media, banking, politics and academia) over the White Race. The ring may even represent Judeo-Christianity, which has been keeping many Whites blind to the evil that Jews do. This is why the Ring must be destroyed, so the White race can be free.
Sauron(stein) is the personification of the Jews.
The Orcs, Goblins, and Uruk-hai soldiers represent non-Whites -- specifically the Negro -- who are manipulated by the Jews to destroy the White Race (not that they need much manipulating).
The Nazgul, or Ringwraiths, represent White race-traitors, who betray their people in exchange for Jewish money, power, or status, and are now slaves to the Jew. They are "neither living nor dead," which is a perfect description of a Race traitor.
Saruman represents a different type of race traitor. He's a rich, powerful, elitist White man in his own right, who wants to overthrow the Jews, but only so he can take their place. Once the Jews are gone, he will continue their policies (non-White immigration into White lands, race-mixing; globalism; anti-White entertainment, etc. I'm thinking someone like Bill Gates or Ted Turner). He does not care for his fellow Whites at all; he is only interested in money and power. The concept of Race means nothing to him.
I see Gollum as a weak-willed, White person -- a freeper, perhaps -- who, after being exposed to Jewish neo-con propaganda (Freerepublic, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, etc.) for years, has become addicted to it, turning him into a pitiful, pathetic creature. He no longer has any racial identity left at all, and defines himself only through his political affiliation: Republican.
When the tower of Barad-dur crumbles at the end of ROTK, it is a symbol of ZOG's destruction.
Middle Earth = Europe, though I'm not sure who the various peoples of Middle Earth represent ("The Cat Lady" over at VNN has an interesting [url=http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/movie75.htm]theory[/url]:, that the various races of Middle Earth represent different sides of the human personality). To me, the Hobbits clearly represent the peoples of the British Isles. It's really not important, though, since the Elves, Men, Dwarves, Hobbits are all White, which is why the LOTR trilogy is such a good thing for young White people -- especially boys -- to see.
2004-02-20 19:54 | User Profile
What about the lack of Euro-centric movies? They make mucho money. One would think the market would dictate the need for more of those? :unsure:
2004-02-20 20:05 | User Profile
Gee... The Lord of the Rings was "eurocentric?" It's a good thing we have the SPLC to tell us these things; I never would have noticed. While we're at it, wasn't the Lion King "Afrocentric" or Cruise's Last Samuri "Japocentric?" I guess these don't have quite the same ring as eurocentric.
The SPLC didn't have the guts to make this obvious statement while the movies were at the heighth of popularity because they probably knew it would backfire. Now they want to pretend that they are telling us something we didn't already realize, in order to arrogantly pretend to be the voice of remorse.
Not that anyone cares but my interpretation of Tolkien is that he was re-working Wagner's Ring of the Nibelungenlied. Check this out:
[QUOTE]Like J. R. R. Tolkien, Wagner had an instinct for mythic storytelling, and so his very much invented story feels like something far older than it is. Neither Wagner nor Tolkien knew of Joseph Campbell, of course, but both their stories contain many of the same classic elements of the Hero Myth:
* Both center around a ring of power, and the attempts of various people to acquire it.
* In both, the ring carries with it a corrupting curse.
* Both feature an all-conquering sword which is broken and later reforged.
* Both involve a romantic partnership between a human hero-knight and a demigod female.
* Both involve a hero who fails and dies, but whose descendant, after a period of hiding in the wilderness, returns to fulfill the quest.
* Both feature a wise old man with a staff that is more than just a stick of wood. [/QUOTE]
This was from the site: [url]http://www.singthing.org/ring/story.html[/url]
-Llen
2004-02-21 09:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=LlenLleawc]Not that anyone cares but my interpretation of Tolkien is that he was re-working Wagner's Ring of the Nibelungenlied. Check this out:
This was from the site: [url]http://www.singthing.org/ring/story.html[/url]
-Llen[/QUOTE]
Actually, that's an interesting site. I have heard of the Wagner/Tolkien connection before, but not in any detail.
My comment saying, "I don't know or care what Tolkien's intentions were in writing LOTR, so don't bother telling me." was really directed at anyone who wanted post any tired old Tolkien anti-Hitler quotes, or that Tolkien loved jews; or that Sauron and his dark forces represented Hitler and the Nazis, or that LOTR was actually pro-multiculturalism, or some such :dung:
(on one of the bonus discs of LOTR:The Fellowship of the Ring, they have a biography of Tolkien. They make it quite clear that he hated allegory and never intended the LOTR to be used as such.)
No, I donââ¬â¢t think Tolkien was a WN, but at the time he wrote LOTR, being a WN wasnââ¬â¢t really necessary, because the White Race wasnââ¬â¢t on the ropes, like it is now.
What really matters is that LOTR ââ¬â both the book and the films -- is an enduring work of White art that will serve as an inspiration to White People for years to come.
2004-02-23 22:11 | User Profile
Tolkien did have a 20-year subscription Arthur Keneth Chesterton patriotic journal Candour and is thought to have been a Rightist.
"Did he support the National Front? Probably not in any meaningful way, but indisputably he was sympathetic to its anti-immigration and anti-Common Market policies, having endorsed Chesterton's views over two decades.
There is little doubt that Tolkien was a patriot, and his conviction that the civilising effects of the British Empire were a blessing to be enjoyed by all has been proved correct. The torment of death, debt and destruction, which Africa has subsequently endured, bears regrettable testimony to that fact."
Tolkien and the Politics of Lord of the Rings [url]http://www.nationalfront.org/tolkien.html[/url]
Arthur Keneth Chesterton [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Chesterton[/url]
2004-02-23 22:23 | User Profile
More stuff!
[QUOTE]As with many conservative Roman Catholics of the 1930s and 1940s, Tolkien believed that communism represented an even more dangerous form of tyranny than did fascism. If he hated fascism, he really hated communism. Many of the so-called fascists, such as Franco in Spain, protected the Roman Catholic Church, whereas the communists had always assaulted any form of theism, substituting their own ideology for Christian beliefs. Tolkien was especially taken with the bullfighting ally of Franco, poet and Roman Catholic convert, Roy Campbell. Meeting with Tolkien and Lewis in October 1944, Campbell spoke of atrocities against Roman Catholics committed by the communists and socialists in Spain. By the end of the evening, Campbell had convinced Tolkien of the rightness of Franco's side in the Spanish Civil War, and Tolkien concluded that Campbell was a modern-day Aragorn, ranging the world and struggling against the powers that be, defending God's glory. Tolkien also feared communism because of its potential to do evil after the end of the second world war. "And what of the red Chrysanthemum in the East?" Tolkien asked. "And when [World War II] is over, will ordinary people have any freedom left (or right) or will they have to fight for it, or will they be too tired to resist?" Tolkien feared the loss of any part of the West to the Soviets, which he viewed as a truly foreign and eastern power, totally alien to the West. He labeled the Teheran conference, at which the "Big Three" compromised their principles and sought to define the postwar world, a "ballyhoo." Tolkien sickened at the thought of "that old bloodthirsty murderer Josef Stalin inviting all nations to join a happy family of folks devoted to the abolition of tyranny and intolerance." The worst scenario Tolkien could imagine was a world divided by the aggressive, bloodthirsty Soviets and the commercially-aggressive Americans. The world, Tolkien predicted, would become one homogenous, cosmopolitan entity, with England as a mere suburb. "May the curse of Babel strike all their tongues till they can only say 'baa baa,'" Tolkien wrote to Christopher. "I think I shall have to refuse to speak anything but Old Mercian."
[url]http://www.isi.org/lectures/text/pdf/birzer.pdf[/url] [/QUOTE]
2004-03-02 17:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Tolkien did have a 20-year subscription Arthur Keneth Chesterton patriotic journal Candour and is thought to have been a Rightist. [/QUOTE]One can tell that J.R.R. Tolkien was a rightist of some kind, but this is the first I have heard that he subscribed to A.K. Chesterton's Candour magazine. A.K. Chesterton was a relative of G.K. Chesterton, and like him and Tolkien, I believe AKC was a conservative Catholic. AKC was anti-Jewish and believed in various conspiracy theories though; to my best knowledge JRRT wasn't inclined towards such beliefs, but the fact that he read Candour is intriguing.
JRRT despised the seedier aspects of German National Socialism, and his famous pro-Jew remark was in response to a rather tactless inquiry from a German publisher inquiring about JRRT's racial background, prior to publishing a translation of The Hobbit in Germany. JRRT only knew Jews from meeting Jewish scholars at Oxford; he certainly could not have been expected to grasp the larger Jewish question based on his life experiences in pre-WWII Britain.
JRRT's wartime letters to his son during WWII make for good reading. JRRT didn't believe most of the trumped up reasons for the war or the war time propaganda, and though he disliked the Nazis the thought of the Soviets rolling over central Europe horrified him. He distrusted America and the American (liberal) moralistic approach to things.
All in all he was a white man of good, sound instincts. He didn't have a complete grasp of where things were going (apart from that he didn't like what he was capable of foreseeing), or why, but he was probably still better in his instincts than the vast majority of Britons who still see WWII and Churchill through rosy glasses.
JRRT's LOTR writings don't have a "message" as he himself pointed out. But they do, through their act of drawing on the deeper wells of our racial memory, have a de facto racial reality that works its magic on us precisely because there is no didactic or allegorical intent on JRRT's part.
2004-04-04 13:36 | User Profile
The wife and I really enjoyed the Lord of the Rings movies.
IT was really nice watching an action movie of good vs. evil with an all white cast with white heroes. No vulgarity, no sex, and no negroes.
Anything that the SPLC is against, we are for! What a bunch of foul, sick, lieing theives they are! Southern Poverty?? They build a multimillion dollar building a couple of years back.. They are EVIL incarnate..
Keep the faith
CSA
2004-04-17 18:15 | User Profile
Don't pay too much attention to contemporary historians who insist that Tolkien was a multi-cult leftist who despised Germany, loved the Jews, etc, etc.
In the first place, even ol' J.R.R. had to play the same game we do now if he intended to keep his good name, his position, and his books in print: if he wanted to be left alone, he had to [I]tell them what they wanted to hear[/I]. And by the same token, today's "historian" is even more compromiosed.
Picture the future employment prospects of the university professor who might prove definitively that Tolkien - maybe the 20th century's most beloved author - looked upon races as competing organisms and saw the sublimatioon of whites by nonwhites as the Apocalypse itself. I think most educated people are aware - only too aware - that the messenger bringing bad tidings is usually the first head to roll. In fact, that's why we're [I]in [/I] the mess we're in.
2004-04-17 18:20 | User Profile
The Souther Poverty Law Center is correct (I never thought I'd type that). The LOTR IS (very!) Eurocentric. What of it? Its supposed to be a good thing whem a cultural artifact is deemed Afrocentric (centered around cannibalism and gang rape, perhaps?), so presumably the same would apply to things of a Eurocentric nature. Far be it from me to suggest that the SPLC are a bunch of insincere, lying hypocrites....
2004-04-17 18:55 | User Profile
The LOTR is definitely Eurocentric. It is basically a tale of the defense of the Christian West against those forces that would destroy it. If defending the Christian West upsets you, then you are the enemy, plain and simple.