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Thread ID: 12399 | Posts: 26 | Started: 2004-02-19
2004-02-19 01:14 | User Profile
Posted by the webmaster on the St. Louis CofCC website:
FACT: 9-11. It was (at least thus far) the ultimate, singular, one-moment act of racial jealousy concocted by non-whites against whites. Believe us, it was nothing more than that. And before some of you right-wing Jew-haters start flaming us, whining about "Israel this" and "Zionism that," consider that wherever militant Islam goes, fighting and terrorism follows - and most extant, sustained conflicts between extremist Islam and some other group DOES NOT involve Jews in any way.
[url]http://www.galilei.com/stl/cofcc/[/url] (In the scrolling commentary.)
"It was (at least thus far) the ultimate, singular, one-moment act of racial jealousy concocted by non-whites against whites." They hate us cause we're free! :lol: Tell ya what, bucky, get your jewish friends to to stop thwarting every effort by Whites to halt the muslim invasion into Western countries, and get them to stop bribing and bullying our pols into always taking Israel's side, and then if we still have a problem with the ragheads I'll support whatever it takes to make it go away. No wonder these neos endorsed Dubya on their radio show.
2004-02-19 01:33 | User Profile
Anyone who's using the terms Jew-hater and anti-semite in earnest is a piece of :dung:
2004-02-19 01:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]Anyone who's using the terms Jew-hater and anti-semite in earnest is a piece of :dung:[/QUOTE]
I agree. And the same can be said for anyone who's not absolutely disgusted by the tactics used by the various Israeli lobbies against those who want to disengage from the middle east.
2004-02-19 01:55 | User Profile
French Jews relieved at Le Pen's loss, but still wary: [url]http://www.jewishsf.com/bk020510/i02.shtml[/url]
French, US Jews hail Le Pen defeat, fret at his total: [url]http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=160192&contrassID=1&subContrassID=8&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y[/url]
2004-02-19 02:05 | User Profile
[COLOR=Red][SIZE=5]"Peace between Moslem and Christian was a century-old fact until ended by the acts of the Truman administration on behalf of 'Israel.'" [/SIZE] [/COLOR] -- author/former military intelligence officer John Beaty, from his book "The Iron Curtain Over America," 1951, reprinted 1995; CPA Books, Oregon, USA, p. 211, softcover.
2004-02-19 06:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Recluse]Posted by the webmaster on the St. Louis CofCC website:
FACT: 9-11. It was (at least thus far) the ultimate, singular, one-moment act of racial jealousy concocted by non-whites against whites. Believe us, it was nothing more than that. And before some of you right-wing Jew-haters start flaming us, whining about "Israel this" and "Zionism that," consider that wherever militant Islam goes, fighting and terrorism follows - and most extant, sustained conflicts between extremist Islam and some other group DOES NOT involve Jews in any way.
[url]http://www.galilei.com/stl/cofcc/[/url] (In the scrolling commentary.) [/QUOTE] I'd be interested in knowing the context and source. Overall it sounds like some jew or philo trying very hard to sound racialist such as our famous "Dark Eddy". That quote you repeated is interesting but only a very small part of the total scroll.
2004-02-19 11:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]That quote you repeated is interesting but only a very small part of the total scroll.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure why that matters. What's important to me is that the website of the national headquarters of the CofCC just threw the Jew-hater accusation at everyone who thinks that our support for Israel is a major cause of our problems with the muslim world. Someone needs to issue an apology and a disclaimer, at the very least.
2004-02-23 04:22 | User Profile
Where is that on the CofCC website?
2004-02-23 05:16 | User Profile
Well this quote is not all bad. There is some truth in it. I might also point out the quote said nothing good about the Zionists.
FACT: 9-11. It was (at least thus far) the ultimate, singular, one-moment act of racial jealousy concocted by non-whites against whites. Believe us, it was nothing more than that. And before some of you right-wing Jew-haters start flaming us, whining about "Israel this" and "Zionism that," consider that wherever militant Islam goes, fighting and terrorism follows - and most extant, sustained conflicts between extremist Islam and some other group DOES NOT involve Jews in any way.
The Arabs and the Muhammudans have been causing us trouble off and on; from the time Muhammud took over Arabia. Arabs are now overrunning Europe and plotting to take over Europe just as they have for over a 1000 years.
My thought for the cause of "9-11" would the greed of big oil and degenerate government in the Mid East that the US government props up. We were fighting with the Arabs 1000 years before "Zionism" was statrted. I might also add, the jews were always ready to help the Muhammudans attack Europe, like they did when the moors came to Spain. Yes the tribe is not good, but the same can be said for the Arabs.
2004-02-23 06:38 | User Profile
Show me a problem we have with Arabs and I'll show you the non-Arabic source of it.
2004-03-26 06:47 | User Profile
It seems rather weird that the CofCC would try to put the muzzle on critics of Jewish influence while running a "Free Zundel!" ad on their main site.
Methinks there is some factional conflict within that organization.
Maybe this explains why Middle American News never seems to tackle Israeli hijacking of US foreign policy. Heck, even mainstream TAC does that.
2004-03-26 08:10 | User Profile
[COLOR=Red][SIZE=5]"Peace between Moslem and Christian was a century-old fact until ended by the acts of the Truman administration on behalf of 'Israel.'"
-- author/former military intelligence officer John Beaty, from his book "The Iron Curtain Over America," 1951, reprinted 1995; CPA Books, Oregon, USA, p. 211, softcover.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
2004-03-26 18:38 | User Profile
With the exception of such explicit 'jewhaters' such as VNN etc, any other organization DOES and WILL have people having second thoughts and indoctrinated knee-jerk self-doubts as far as 'jewhating' is concerned.
The best way to defeat your enemy is to screw with their heads. Whites have been screwed in the head department.
2004-03-26 18:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Recluse]French Jews relieved at Le Pen's loss, but still wary: [url]http://www.jewishsf.com/bk020510/i02.shtml[/url]
French, US Jews hail Le Pen defeat, fret at his total: [url]http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=160192&contrassID=1&subContrassID=8&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y[/url][/QUOTE]
Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National is getting much more support now than ever before. They placed very well in the first round of countrywide regional elections last week. This coming Sunday is the second (2eme Tour) and final election and Le Front National is sure to win more regional seats. More French are seeing the National Front as a viable organization to stem the tide of Muslim invasion, return national pride, and to put the French people FIRST!
On the chart below, the darker the shade of brown (ironic,heh?), the stronger the support for National Front. 30 to 35% is enough to win those areas, since typically there's 3 or 4 different party candidates on each ballot in each region. Still, it's not like they're (NF) going to take over the whole entire government but the Leftists were shocked that NF has bounced back so strong and winning more French over to their point of view. Why would they be shocked??
[IMG]http://www.tns-sofres.com/test/salmon/reg2004/extrdr.gif[/IMG]
2005-01-02 01:17 | User Profile
IMO the root of this problem is that the neo-Confederate movement (being primarily a Southern thing) is heavily populated with dispensationalist Christians--Baptists and charismatics like Assembly of God types.
Until they ditch dispensationalism and join non-dispensational churches, this issue will continue to be a thorn in the side of American nationalism.
2005-01-02 01:40 | User Profile
IMO the root of this problem is that the neo-Confederate movement (being primarily a Southern thing) is heavily populated with dispensationalist Christians--Baptists and charismatics like Assembly of God types.
Until they ditch dispensationalism and join non-dispensational churches, this issue will continue to be a thorn in the side of American nationalism.
2005-01-02 07:36 | User Profile
Centinel
[QUOTE]IMO the root of this problem is that the neo-Confederate movement (being primarily a Southern thing) is heavily populated with dispensationalist Christians--Baptists and charismatics like Assembly of God types. Until they ditch dispensationalism and join non-dispensational churches, this issue will continue to be a thorn in the side of American nationalism.[/QUOTE]
I agree this is a problem, I think "Chistian Zionists" are larger in number in Church leadership than in the membership. I think many of them would be sickened if they knew what nuts these morons are. Many of these so-called "dispensationalists" turn Chistianity into worship of the "Jewish" people.
I still think attacking the CofCC over this is not fair.
2005-01-02 07:58 | User Profile
Faust,
Little people like us will probably never know, but my guts tell me somewhere in that organization there are anti-black/hispanic Jews (Nicholas Stix types) or powerful CZs...how they wield influence who knows--perhaps financially. People who may never be seen or show up to events, but have a vested interest in issues like immigration control.
What I can't understand is when you're already on the ADL and SPLC s*** lists and establishment politicians like Lott who formerly were cozy now avoid you, what's an organization like CofCC got to lose by being candid about The Tribe?
2005-01-02 13:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust] I think "Chistian Zionists" are larger in number in Church leadership than in the membership.[/QUOTE]Perhaps because Marannos are greater in number among the leadership than the membership.
2005-01-02 14:45 | User Profile
And how do you know that some those in the Christian leadership are not infiltrators Zionists?
Remember "By deception we shall rule"
I would not put it pass them.
2005-01-02 20:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]IMO the root of this problem is that the neo-Confederate movement (being primarily a Southern thing) is heavily populated with dispensationalist Christians--Baptists and charismatics like Assembly of God types.
Until they ditch dispensationalism and join non-dispensational churches, this issue will continue to be a thorn in the side of American nationalism.[/QUOTE]I'm still not sure to tell the truth if we've resolved exactly what "the problem" is, or at least how substantial it is. It is sort of similar to the similar argument against AmRen, if I can find the thread and it wasn't erased out of deference to AntiYuppie.
I think the factional argument holds quite a bit of weight, especially since it was just the St. Louis chapter, admittedly that of the Cof CC Prez Baum. And I'd suspect that for a place like St. Louis the reasoning might be more similar to that of AmRen, i.e. just a general desire to stay marginally mainstream, and not run headlong against the Jewish lobby and become a de facto IHR branch in the eyes of watchers.
I suspect also there's a divide between the more radical grassroots and the leadership of these types of organizations. Members are fairly low visibility and free to speak their opinions, whereas leaders are highly visible and may wish to hold on to their shred of mainstream tolerability for the sake of their public enterprises, such as Baum's law practice (he advertises it prominently on the front page of the website). In a town like St. Louis with a sizable and prominent Jewish population that's got to be a factor. The grassroots/leader divide I think was also a big factor in the CofCC's cancelation of their forum. The forum certainly didn't seem very philosemitic as I recall, but there also were some jewish members. I suspect some of them might have been instrumental in shutting it down. But again here the situation seems quite similar to the case of AmRen.
2005-01-02 21:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]The grassroots/leader divide I think was also a big factor in the CofCC's cancelation of their forum. The forum certainly didn't seem very philosemitic as I recall, but there also were some jewish members. I suspect some of them might have been instrumental in shutting it down. But again here the situation seems quite similar to the case of AmRen.[/QUOTE]
Never even knew they had a forum. Sounds similar to Sam Francis and NewsMax canning theirs.
2005-01-02 22:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]Never even knew they had a forum. Sounds similar to Sam Francis and NewsMax canning theirs.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it was a short-lived thing, about 4 years ago I think roughly when it got all that publicity. It was actually not a forum, rather an e-mail discussion list. It generated a lot of traffic, and the tone of it can be see in the popularity of the idea of a "Buchanan/Duke" presidential ticket. But they canned it pretty fast.
Actually come to think of it, after that - a couple of years after that - they did have a regular forum, like this, for a while. But they didn't seem to advertise it, and for whatever reason, it never got any traffic. Sort of like Polinco.
2005-01-03 00:03 | User Profile
Okiereddust,
The CofCC had a forum like this one, sometime back too, I do not know what happened to it, it had very few posts. I do think the CofCC could be called "philosemitic." I fail to see any reason to attack the CofCC. I am sure they are not perfect, but they seem to be the best group of any size at this time.
From the Indiana cofcc site
They keep an Archive of articles by Constantin von Hoffmeister and Edgar J. Steele.
Constantin von Hoffmeister [url]http://indianacofcc.org/vonmain.htm[/url]
Edgar J. Steele [url]http://indianacofcc.org/steelearticles.htm[/url]
And more stuff:
ADL's Spying Operation. [url]http://indianacofcc.org/sfr.htm[/url]
Jean-Marie Le Pen. [url]http://indianacofcc.org/lepem.htm[/url]
More ADL Garbage [url]http://indianacofcc.org/arc3.htm[/url]
more [url]http://indianacofcc.org/[/url]
2005-01-03 00:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]I fail to see any reason to attack the CofCC.[/QUOTE]
One reason is because they've pushed that "lesser of two evils" crap the last two Presidential elections and they're misleading Whites into voting for scumbags like Jorge Bush. We're about to get an attorney general who has ties to La Raza, which comes as absolutely no surprise to anyone who's not a complete moron, yet these alleged pro-White "leaders" didn't see it coming. I'd like to see the CofCC survive, but they damn sure need new leadership.
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2005-01-03 02:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National is getting much more support now than ever before. They placed very well in the first round of countrywide regional elections last week. This coming Sunday is the second (2eme Tour) and final election and Le Front National is sure to win more regional seats. More French are seeing the National Front as a viable organization to stem the tide of Muslim invasion, return national pride, and to put the French people FIRST!...
[IMG]http://www.tns-sofres.com/test/salmon/reg2004/extrdr.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Where do French Jews shake out on this? I would think that up until this point they'd be found backing leftists, but out of self-interest would now support Le Pen. But in so doing does that mean there will also be a concomitant heightened national support of Israel?