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il ragno [OP]

2004-02-17 06:49 | User Profile

[COLOR=Blue]Who else has he [I]got[/I]?[/COLOR]

[SIZE=4]A Strategy for Kerry [/SIZE]

January 29, 2004

After the first President Bush betrayed conservatives by raising taxes, in spite of his promise never to do so, many conservatives didn’t bother voting for him in 1992. This was one of the reasons he lost to Bill Clinton, who re-energized the conservative movement and brought about a Republican takeover of Congress in the 1994 elections. In the meantime, Clinton’s ambitious national health-care plan flopped.

Principled conservatives should hope that history repeats itself in 2004. If John Kerry wins the presidency, Republicans may start acting a bit like conservatives again. Under the current President Bush, party loyalty has made them supporters of further expansion of the Federal Government.

This election will be a battle of the big spenders. There isn’t much to choose between Bush and Kerry (or whoever the Democratic candidate turns out to be). But a Bush victory will ensure that the Republican Party will continue to betray conservatism.

Unfortunately, most self-identified conservatives don’t see it that way. For some reason, they continue to regard Bush as their guy — maybe because, like Richard Nixon, he truly annoys liberals in spite of all his efforts to appease them.

Kerry, a walking stereotype of liberalism, can probably win by simply toning down his rhetoric. [COLOR=Indigo][I]If he avoids antagonizing and frightening conservatives, if he subtly resists the temptation to portray the election as a stark contest between opposed philosophies, a critical number of conservatives may simply stay home on Election Day. [/I] [/COLOR]

Fortunately for Kerry, this shouldn’t be hard. He’s a boring fellow. How boring? Well, let’s put it this way: If you loved Al Gore, you’ll like John Kerry. When you listen to him deliver the standard litany of liberal clichés, it’s impossible to feel that much is at stake. He’s perhaps the perfect candidate to de-energize Bush’s base. That’s what he needs to do.

Democrats really hate Bush; that’s what will bring them to the polls: fear and loathing. Republicans, on the other hand, don’t hate Kerry enough to rally against him; they hardly know him yet. He should do all he can to keep it that way. He needs a strategy of ennui. Don’t give the other side a reason to turn out to vote!

A passionless campaign will be good not only for Kerry, but also, ultimately, for conservatism. [COLOR=Indigo][I]Kerry may seem an improbable savior for the conservative movement, but Bush is destroying it. It would be a disaster for that movement to allow Bush to identify his grab-bag politics with it. [/I] [/COLOR]

Bush’s only intelligent enthusiasts are neoconservatives, who might better be called pseudoconservatives. They love him for giving them the war they’ve hungered for since his father’s presidency (even if it fell short of the “World War IV” they called for), and they don’t really mind that he promotes bigger government all over the place. After all, they revere the memory of Franklin Roosevelt and other icons of liberal Democrats. They’ve changed parties without changing principles.

The Iraq war, alias the War on Terror, has ceased to be a strength for Bush. By the time the fall campaign really begins, it may have become a huge minus. The costly occupation of Iraq (and, oh yes, Afghanistan) drags on pointlessly, and Bush has already abandoned his absurd insistence that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass murder that could threaten this country. [COLOR=Indigo][I]Either his word or his judgment, or both, can’t be trusted. The country has quietly lost faith in him. For an incumbent seeking reelection, that’s very bad news. [/I] [/COLOR]

Bush will face other discontents too, including economic ones. He has tried to change his party’s image, and he has succeeded only too well. [COLOR=Indigo][I]It’s now impossible to imagine the Republicans as supplying a prudent brake on fiscally improvident Democrats; they’ve taught the country how staggering Federal deficits can be. [/I] [/COLOR] “Compassionate conservatism” turns out to be neither compassionate nor conservative.

If Kerry wins the presidency, he’ll have his hands full just handling the mess Bush has left him. He won’t want to get us into new wars, and there won’t be much loose change to pay for new Federal programs. Besides, the Republicans will try to frustrate his initiatives.

Unless something unforeseeable happens, [COLOR=Indigo][I]we can look forward to a dull campaign between a real liberal and a phony conservative[/I][/COLOR]. And for real conservatives, the duller the better.

Joseph Sobran

[QUOTE]Bush’s only intelligent enthusiasts are neoconservatives...[/QUOTE]

So much for Joe Sixpack and the Holes-in-the-Hands Gang!

I'd've added one thought: if Kerry gets the nod from the Dems, [B]Bush is toast[/B], regardless of what sort of campaign Young Mr Kohn conducts. The last time a grovelling lackey to Jewish interests (who'd given them everything they asked for and more) ran for re-election against a real flesh-and-blood 10-5-W, Charles Schumer [I]waxed [/I] Al d'Amato. Al's lickspittle loyalty and strongarm work spearheading the Bronfman family shakedown of Western Europe earned him exactly [I]this [/I] much loyalty and gratitude from the Jews: zero. Zip. Zilch. Nil, nada, niente, nyet, nihilum. He was put out with the [I]rest [/I] of the trash on Tuesday night. The way [I]Bush [/I] will be sleeping with the fish-heads this year.

Bush could campaign with the severed heads of Saddam, Khadaffi and Arafat mounted on his lectern and they will swarm like one organism to put the lever of power into a Kohn's hands. The fact that he's a [I]secret [/I] Kohn who's been playing Catholic (like Cardinal Lustiger in the Papal on-deck circle) only makes me circle this one as my Lock Of The Day. Like the Racing Form might say, [I]the Best Bet: wheel Kohn in all your exactas and triples this November[/I].


mwdallas

2004-02-17 14:30 | User Profile

[QUOTE]The fact that he's a secret Kohn who's been playing Catholic (like Cardinal Lustiger in the Papal on-deck circle) only makes me circle this one as my Lock Of The Day. [/QUOTE] The Democrats are still an underdog at +140 (Republican candidate is -170).

What about the possibility that the GOP forces Bush off the ticket?


MadScienceType

2004-02-17 22:17 | User Profile

What about the possibility that the GOP forces Bush off the ticket?

And replace him with what? Trent Lott? :lol:

This is just the sort of heads-I-win, tails-you-lose situation the tribe loves. A matzo in every pot and a goy triggerman in every foxhole. What's not to like?


edward gibbon

2004-02-17 22:39 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno][COLOR=Blue]Who else has he [I]got[/I]?[/COLOR]

I'd've added one thought: if Kerry gets the nod from the Dems, [B]Bush is toast[/B], regardless of what sort of campaign Young Mr Kohn conducts. [I][COLOR=Red]The last time a grovelling lackey to Jewish interests (who'd given them everything they asked for and more) ran for re-election against a real flesh-and-blood 10-5-W, Charles Schumer [I]waxed [/I] Al d'Amato. Al's lickspittle loyalty and strongarm work spearheading the Bronfman family shakedown of Western Europe earned him exactly [I]this [/I] much loyalty and gratitude from the Jews: zero. Zip. Zilch. Nil, nada, niente, nyet, nihilum. He was put out with the [I]rest [/I] of the trash on Tuesday night.[/COLOR][/I] The way [I]Bush [/I] will be sleeping with the fish-heads this year.[/QUOTE]I hope until the day he dies that d'Amato gets kicked every day and twice on Sunday in the testicles by Jews. With no regard for anything other than cadging support from Jews d'Amato advanced criminal extortion by those he thought his friends. He suborned American interest to Jews and their desires. He should be exhibit A1 for loyalty by Jews to the goyim.


il ragno

2004-02-18 01:03 | User Profile

[QUOTE]I'm not sure this is necessarily true. While at the local and state levels the Tribe prefers members of its own both running the show and waving to the crowds, as a general rule Jews prefer to rule America from behind the scenes.... [/QUOTE]

Exactly, AY! Kohn's public profile as a Roman Catholic gives them both a goy front and a [I]landsman [/I] in back....and our next Official Indicator of [I]rising anti-Semitism [/I] will be [I]any[/I]one with a nat'l platform who attempts to point out Kerry=Kohn...whom the media will then swarm to uniformly condemn. The double-edged openly-Jewish factor that caused them consternation re Lieberman will not come into play. And the Kerry/Kohn blackout will ensure a sizable percentage of the lemmingry will be either unaware, incredulous or willing to write off the connection as The New Anti-Semitism at work.

We must bear in mind that whoever the Dem is he'll be on much surer footing this year than Gore ever was. The blowback from Iraq has only just begun, and considering that every relevant question regarding 9/11 and beyond has been relegated to internet forums for 'extremists' and 'nuts', Big Media has a lot of ground to make up. The plan, I think, was quash all dissent and substantive inquiry until the troops were in Iraq, at which point all options would be relinquished save total commitment to the war effort. The thinking was [I]we'd tromp the Republican Guard, kill Hussein, frighten whatever pockets of resistance remained into docility within 30 days, begin divvying up the oil fields [/I] - and with a little luck, find a nuke, or nuke precursor, or [I]something[/I] red-flagworthy to offer as nominal justification to the world for our new smash-and-grab diplomacy initiative. Since none of that panned out, the Fourth Estate is left with too much unexamined food on their plate that doesn't [I]begin [/I] to pass the smell test, and the European press - who still remember how to do their jobs - can no longer effectively be demonized as anti-Semites. They've been verifiably ahead of the curve and the spin too often now and have utterly seized the high ground - while we tossed on-the-record softballs to Jews and neos for three years running now, and apologized for not throwing them slowly enough right down the middle of the plate. [I]Shut up, you traitor [/I] isn't going to fly this year. Too many of the traitors were proven right, and are proffering too many still darker suspicions (PNAC, anyone?) for the media to monolithicallyplay 'let's pretend we didn't hear that' for too much longer.

All of that adds up to Bush taking the fall. On paper, he called every shot, quashed every inquiry, mouthed every lie and hid behind Jesus every time he was called to account. I mean, look at the dope: he's a functional illiterate, in thrall to power Jews [I]who need a fall guy now[/I]. What are the odds that [I]they'll [/I] end up holding the bag?


Faust

2004-02-18 03:31 | User Profile

Let us hope and Pray Sobran is Right!


BjarniTyrdal

2004-02-18 04:05 | User Profile

This article too me shows a basic trouble with paleo thinking. It shows that the paleo Sobran thinks that the Republicans used to be conservative in recent memory. This is very odd because Reagan never addressed the race issue honestly or even tried to end the third world invasion but was instead "colour blind" which is more a leftist or neo-libertarian/classical liberal position. He did favour "free trade" dogma and had no criticism of capitalism of any kind and in no way did the rot that has over taken America slow while he was in office. Nixon was basically the same except he favoured more "liberal" style domestic programs. Basically, all Republicanism has is acceptance of the status quo domestically plus a little "fine tuning" ( the occassional tax cut or degregulation bid), globalism, a slightly less sickening sort of multi-racialism in the short term and anti-communism abroad (until the end of the '80s.). The republican party as never sought to conserve anything of real value for decades and what little it has (like what remains of right to arms) it has done a poor job for some time.

The notion that electing a social democrat like Kohn will some how help conservatism is silly. It is so because the neo-cons that totally control the GOP and "mainstream conservatism" are extremely well funded, have a very clear ideology defining what they are about and the organization/internal discipline to make their Gramcian methods work. So looking at those things I see no reason to think that some popular uprising will happen that will bring the Rep. party back to the less destructive version it was when Reagan was running things. If by some amazing bit of luck a Reagan like Rep. gets elected president it will mean nothing simply because the problems of America can not be solved by classical liberalism that the Rep. party once saw as conservitism.

No, the sad reality is that those wishing to conserve a future for their children need address real problems and get serious about public activism instead of waiting for the establishment that wants to destroy Occidentals changing into some else marginally less destructive.


mwdallas

2004-02-18 04:14 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Exactly, AY! Kohn's public profile as a Roman Catholic gives them both a goy front and a landsman in back....[/QUOTE] That didn't exactly help Goldwater....


N.B. Forrest

2004-02-18 04:16 | User Profile

Yeah, the Chimp is about to be sucked into the greasy jewpipe for the long, smelly ride back to Crawford, no doubt about it. It can't come too soon for me. I was watching Faux Jews' "coverage" of the bastard haranguing the troops yet again at some base before, playing dress-up as Badass Wartime President - in the inevitable Old Glory & unit patch-emblazoned bomber jacket, natch. He roared that "My resolve remains as unshakeble as it was the day I stood on the rubble of the World Trade Center!" - cheaply making political hay of that for the 1,374th time. Of course, bland Combover Jim Angle was putting the usual jewspin on the howlingly boring affair, "interviewing" an idiotically gung-ho sergeant who made All The Right Noises - as if he dared to make any other kind.

In my book, having to put up with Rebbe Kohn stinking up the Oval Office is a bearable price to pay for dispensing with this insufferable coward-traitor-fraud.

The only question is: will his impending ignominious defeat result, as Sobran speculates, in the kahnservantives waking the hell up and demanding a return to true conservative principles and an immediate end to this disgusting speek fellation - or will they remain, as ever, the Stoopid Party?

We shall see.


il ragno

2004-02-18 04:35 | User Profile

[QUOTE]That didn't exactly help Goldwater....[/QUOTE]

...yeah, well, Citizen Kohn ain't running against a martyred President's Ed McMahon, either...and if the Daisy ad runs again this year, Bush is the perfect donkey to pin it on.


Walter Yannis

2004-02-19 10:58 | User Profile

[QUOTE]The only question is: will his impending ignominious defeat result, as Sobran speculates, in the kahnservantives waking the hell up and demanding a return to true conservative principles and an immediate end to this disgusting speek fellation - or will they remain, as ever, the Stoopid Party?

We shall see.[/QUOTE]

It's a foregone conclusion. As Paul Gottlieb points out, there really are no conservatives left. Everybody wants the Great Society programs, and NOBODY wants to talk about race.

They're all just varying stripes of liberal.

There is only one party in America, and that's just the way the sheeple want it.

I agree with Bjarni in that it's pointless to talk about any of this without making Race and Tribe the central issues, because they are in fact the central issues. We're at odds with ourselves because we bought into the central Menshivik (neo-con) lie that we exist only as individuals, and that race and nation don't matter. When we conservatives as a group caved in on the race issue (Nixon), we lost forever the moral high ground.

Charles Rangel said something about how white racists don't wear white sheets anymore, they just try to cut federal spending. And it's true. The GOP since Reagan adopted a strategy to fight the Jewish Racial Extortion Coalition at the heart of the DemonRat Party through purely libertarian rhetoric. We're all individuals, and we should be treated as such. Affirmative action is wrong not because its racial politics but because it offends the rights of individuals, and aren't you Democrats ashamed of recognizing race? But of course the DemonRats are all about race, race, race, and they see right through this tactic. They set it up, after all. They carefully first imposed a guilt complex on the part of whites, such that they instinctively avoid any overt recognition of their own racial interests. They know that whites talk about individual achievement and low taxes because it protects them from the demands of other races WITHOUT requiring that whites actually talk about race.

Again, Charles Rangel knows this, and he says as much. Everybody knows it, in fact. Freepers and their ilk lie to themselves about it - it's all too obvious to be missed, after all.

It's all very clear. When we gave in to the extreme pressure of the Jewish lead Civil Rights Movement and lied to ourselves that race doesn't matter and that we're all just individuals, we lost the war. The past 30 years has just been a rear-guard action, trying to slow down the inevitable working out of the internal logic of that position.

We need to have a movement that explicitly recognizes the reality of race, and isn't afraid to call the Tribe on its shenannigans.

So, I agree that Sobran dropped the ball on this point.

Walter


jay

2004-02-20 04:44 | User Profile

Wow WY. What a powerful post. Proof once again that reasoned logic is far more severe than yelling and screaming.

I have to say, the best I've read in a long time. You really nailed it. I wish more Americans would think the way you or I would on this. At least I have comfort knowing SOME of us do.

Good work.

-Jay


Walter Yannis

2004-02-20 11:31 | User Profile

[QUOTE=jay]Wow WY. What a powerful post. Proof once again that reasoned logic is far more severe than yelling and screaming.

I have to say, the best I've read in a long time. You really nailed it. I wish more Americans would think the way you or I would on this. At least I have comfort knowing SOME of us do.

Good work.

-Jay[/QUOTE]

Aw, shucks, Jay! :blush:

Thanks, dude.

Walter