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Thread ID: 12275 | Posts: 16 | Started: 2004-02-12
2004-02-12 04:31 | User Profile
I ask the OD people, "what are you?," ideologically and generally speaking, because just for the record, I am a racial supremacist in the sense that I feel that Whites are indeed superior to all other races....granted, that definition is different than what is used here re: the Jews...
....but I wanted to ask that question anyhow, using this essay as a topic starter......let us not be afraid to say that Whites are superior...
[url]http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs964b.html[/url]
"This phenomenon is nowhere more apparent than in the controlled media's readiness to accuse anyone who believes in White survival of being what they call a "White supremacist." This has to be the most egregious example imaginable of the pot calling the kettle black.
Actually, it is more like the pot calling the silverware black, since most of those accused of being ̉ "White supremacists," or in illiterate-speak, "White supremists" [sic], are actually White separatists, a very important distinction. It is the largely Jewish masters of the media who are supremacists supreme..."
2004-02-12 05:05 | User Profile
Haven't read the article yet. However, I believe the description that fits me best is White Separatist. The ideal society in my mind would be one where the races separate voluntarily. I also believe that Whites build civilizations that are better than those produced by non-Whites, but that could easily be because of my subjective preference for things created by my fellow Whites. For example, although both are architectural masterpieces, I like the Parthenon better than the Taj Mahal. I am not convinced that White genes are intrinsically superior to non-White genes. Besides, the Jews have dedicated 60 years of propaganda to ensuring that White Supremacist is synonymous with psychopathic murder, so I think it's best that we avoid the term all together.
2004-02-12 06:21 | User Profile
Well, like somebody once said, you are what your record says you are. When 2% of the population can manipulate the other 98% with ease it's a little ridiculous to talk about [I]white supremacy[/I]. It might've been the case once. No more.
But I believe we whites have a right to our own land, our own culture, our own history and our own destiny. Now if only more of us believed the same. I think at some point in the future we will have to return to our roots by settling and founding a new nation (Mexico should be empty fairly soon....). Wherever it is - we will thrive. And what lands we leave behind to our parasitical 'equals' will be in ruins within a year, fit only for carrion birds.
2004-02-12 06:55 | User Profile
Paleo-Separatist.
I won't be happy till whites are separate from non-whites and non-kindred whites as well. Let's have a separate state for Lutherans and Episcopalians, for Wiccans and Zoroastarians, and all the groups and subgroups that make our race even worth talking about.
All bound together in an Alliance of Steel against anyone who ever again tries to kill us with multi-cult tyranny.
2004-02-12 07:30 | User Profile
I don't consider myself a White Supremacist, but I do think of myself as a White Separatist. I don't think of all non-Whites as the enemy, but I do prefer the company of Whites to non-Whites. Some non-Whites are clearly easier to live with than others; for example, most Asians tend to assimilate very well and are easy to get along with. Still, I think Whites should have a nation of their own. It's a goal worth pursuing, though I won't be heartbroken if it doesn't come to fruition in my lifetime.
I have VERY strong feelings about combatting the insidious influence of organized Jewry, which is far and away the primary enemy of not only the White race, but of mankind in general. For example, although the Palestinians are not White, their brutal oppression by the Israelis is what first made me aware of the Jew's place in the larger scheme of events. In a sense, I consider the Palestinians to be our allies. Do I want to see Arabs and Whites live together? Certainly not. But those Palestinians (and now the Iraqis) are displaying remarkable courage in the face of overwhelming odds, and there is much inspiration to be found in their example. In any event, whether or not Whites ever truly establish a nation of their own, Jewish tyranny must be destroyed.
In my perfect world, Whites would have their own nation with strict rules for citizenship and immigration. Apart from that, the government would be mostly libertarian in character, with a free-market economy and a safety net only for the handicapped or infirm (not for the lazy).
Why do I trumpet White libertarianism? Simply because the individualistic nature of the White man is what makes him so creative and productive in the first place. To suppress White individualism would be a mistake of the very highest gravity. It would weaken the entire White race.
Just as nature dictates that Whites generally prefer to be with other Whites, so nature dictates that human beings put their own welfare and that of their closest relatives before the welfare of the group. This is not a license to exploit one's own racial brethren, but it's crucial to recognize the fact that people do their most productive work when it's for the benefit of themselves and their families. If a hypothetical White inventor suddenly feels a spark of inspiration, will he bother to fan that spark into a flame if he knows that neither he nor his family will profit materially from his hard work? Almost certainly not. All forms of socialism ALWAYS fail because socialism forces society to swim against the current of human nature. And there's no need to be concerned with some Whites becoming too much richer than other Whites. When great inventions and creativity are rewarded monetarily, the incentive thus provided leads to good-spirited competition and a higher level of performance from all workers of ambition. This benefits the entire society and contributes to national pride. It's reminiscent of an Olympic athlete who, upon bringing home a gold medal, is a source of national pride rather than the subject of his countrymen's envy.
Putting economics aside, there is no a priori reason or justification for attempting to legislate against the self-ownership of Whites. Those who wish to prosecute White drug users (of which I am NOT one, by the way) ought to explain whom they would choose to replace such great writers as Edgar Allen Poe and Samuel Taylor Coleridge. Those who would remove military weapons from the hands of their fellow Whites need to explain the provenance of their "right" to take such action. In fact, the ideal military structure of a White nation would be that of universal (able-bodied male) inclusion in the armed forces.
That's enough pontification for now. :nerd: Do these ideas resonate with anyone else?
2004-02-12 08:48 | User Profile
I define myself as a "Racialist".
I just dislike the terms White Suprememicist, White Nationalist and White Separatist.
As a Racialist I view Race as the Occams Razor that can be used divide up and understand reality.
As a White Man I harbor ,without appology, views that:
Blacks are unintelligent and violence prone.
Mexicans are lazy, short, greasy and have adopted a lifestyle similiar to locusts: eating up whatever welfare money the White Man provides.
Jews are clannish, money-grubbing, and excersize too much control over the media. The Jew is also controlled by demonic, otherworldly forces that cause them to be purely evil. Although I do not believe in Jesus, I believe that the jews killed Jesus.
Asians are one of the few races to be respected. They have a complex and admirable system of honor and are smart enough to imitate the inventions of the White Man.
Arabs are another race to be respected. They are one of the few that are actively attempting to battle the evil jews. They are surpriseingly intelligent and also understand how to keep their women respectable and honorable. (as a misogynist I have no problems with burqas or any other exotic arabic garb that is meant to maintain the purity of a female.) I am angered by the jews treatment of the arab, just like someone would be angered when they saw a good dog get beaten.
2004-02-12 12:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=FightinWhitey#2]I am angered by the jews treatment of the arab, just like someone would be angered when they saw a good dog get beaten.[/QUOTE] Not so FightinWhitey, the devastation inflicted in Arab infested Europe dictates it's time to grab the shotgun and leash up 'Old Yeller' for his final walk. That old hound dog ain't no friend of mine.
2004-02-12 14:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco] I ask the OD people, "what are you?," ideologically and generally speaking, because just for the record, I am a racial supremacist in the sense that I feel that Whites are indeed superior to all other races[/QUOTE]
I would like to be a racial supremacist/good nazi in this sense, but the fact is that the race is full of Weenies and Morons. The degenerate, effeminate Weenies are hopelessly weak and self-delusional - and our primitive, muscular Morons love that intoxicating firewater, Christianity, in its ability to relieve them of their critical faculties.
So what's a Nietzschean to do to elevate this crew?
2004-02-12 14:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler] Why do I trumpet White libertarianism? Simply because the individualistic nature of the White man is what makes him so creative and productive in the first place. To suppress White individualism would be a mistake of the very highest gravity. It would weaken the entire White race.[/QUOTE]
It is the case, however, that individualism weakens the White race in its own way, and must be balanced against the requirement for the strengthening of the community against enemies which take advantage of the power of collective action.
The Nazis attempted to achieve this balance as against the excesses of Judeo-Bolshevism and Judeo-Capitalism, and they have been described as "reactionary modernists" in regard to the theories which guided their actions. I endorse a reading of the book by that title:
[url]http://www.worldhistoryhub.com/Reactionary_Modernism__Technology_Culture_and_Politics_in_Weimar_and_the_Third_Reich_0521338336.html[/url]
2004-02-13 01:27 | User Profile
Although I try to avoid putting myself in specific categories, I would consider myself a "Realist". Racially, I am Eurocentric-conscientious. I think races must stick with their town to preserve their individuality. I am opposed to interracial pairings and especially the offspring of these pairings.
2004-02-13 02:47 | User Profile
I would describe myself as someone who would hem and haw if asked by a reporter how I would describe myself. I'd probably say something like, "I'm someone who feels that white people face serious issues as the demographics of America change."
I'd say I'm a separatist to the extent that it sounds more palatable that "supremacist," though I obviously believe that whites are superior when it comes to building sustainable, productive societies. "Supremacist" just makes it sound like I want to whip blackies across the back, which I don't really have any interest in doing unless they cross the border into the white territory. I'd really rather just live among whites. I'm frankly made pretty uncomfortable by black servants.
There's a pretty steep divide between the analysis of racial problems and the policy recommendations. Policy recommendations, even outside racial issues, always sound a little radical and impractical when they're based on radical critiques of society, which we of course engage in. I don't think that's something to fret so much about, i.e., does anybody really expect that everyone is instantaneously going to move to white America or black America tomorrow? Well, probably not, but why not throw that out there as an idea? Radical ideas can be pared down to workable solutions, and perhaps that can be the case for us.
2004-02-13 08:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=na Gaeil is gile]Not so FightinWhitey, the devastation inflicted in Arab infested Europe dictates it's time to grab the shotgun and leash up 'Old Yeller' for his final walk. That old hound dog ain't no friend of mine.[/QUOTE]
Well I only gave a brief snap-shot, as it were, of some my racialist views. I should have made myself a bit more clear.
I agree that the dirty arab masses should be sent packing from Europe and back to North Africa or where-ever. [B]Good fences make good neighbors.[/B] Instead of a shotgun I would prefer to use a 9mm pistol, though :-) Never have been that good with big guns.
One must keep in mind that [I]the arabs in Europe are the trash of their race[/I], the ones the Arabic Aristocracy wished to be rid of. Criminals and thugs. I do not view the Arabs in Europe as really being representative of all arabs.
Having said that I will qualify my remarks by stating that I respect the Arab [I]when he remains in his homeland. [/I]
When I worked in the airline industry I had frequent contact with Arabic businessmen and have even met some of their royaty (well they have alot of that over there, so its not that big a deal) and they are very well mannered and polite.
2004-02-13 10:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=na Gaeil is gile]Not so FightinWhitey, the devastation inflicted in Arab infested Europe dictates it's time to grab the shotgun and leash up 'Old Yeller' for his final walk. That old hound dog ain't no friend of mine.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe you want to shoot Old Yeller.
I loved that darned dog. :sad:
Walter
2004-02-13 16:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Why do I trumpet White libertarianism? Simply because the individualistic nature of the White man is what makes him so creative and productive in the first place. To suppress White individualism would be a mistake of the very highest gravity. It would weaken the entire White race.[/QUOTE] Agreed.
I would call myself a White Self-Determinationist, or if that is too unwieldy a White Autonomist. Whites must fight for our right to determine our own future.
2004-02-13 19:02 | User Profile
I'd say I'm a White separatist. I like living around people of my own race, and I'm not going to explain why because those who are opposed to one of the essential elements of a peaceful life, freedom of association, are beyond reason, but beyond that, I want to live where things work. I want the roads to be paved and plowed, the electricity to stay on, the water to be safe, the sewage systems to work and so on. From what I saw when I visited Mexico, these "hard working" Mestizos seem to do an awful job of building and maintaining their infrastructure, and we all know how blacks run our cities and whatever countries they control. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about which race is superior, I just know which one I prefer to live with. And I now know that that's not something you can ask for, that's something you have to demand.
2004-02-13 19:27 | User Profile
Separatist, White survivalist.