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Faust [OP]

2004-02-09 04:36 | User Profile

Court: Scientists Can Study Kennewick Man

[QUOTE]Court: Scientists Can Study Kennewick Man

Scientists can study the Kennewick Man 9,300-year-old remains found in Washington state despite the objections of some American Indian tribes, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday. Northwest tribes consider the bones sacred and want to bury them. But the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a lower court that found that federal grave-protection law does not apply because there is no evidence connecting the remains with any existing tribe...

[url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=US&cat=Native_Americans[/url] [/QUOTE]


Smedley Butler

2004-02-11 06:29 | User Profile

When Kennewick man's bones were found, the corp jumped like cockroaches in Harlem when the lights get turned on at night, to "franticly" rush and hire private contractor's sending thousands of truck loads of gravel on the site near the Columia where the bones were found.. These G.S. 11's or ? should have been fired and with no retirement..... Is this is government out of control?


skemper

2004-02-11 12:31 | User Profile

Faust,

Is there speculation that this Kennewick man could be white? If so, it would be evidence that white settlements existed on on the west coast. There are reasons other than superstition and religion that the Indians are fighting this. I think they have knowledge or at least a legend about who the Kennewick man and his kin were and don't want it out.


Faust

2004-02-11 14:26 | User Profile

Skemper,

Picture of Kennewick Man: [url]http://www.newnation.org/Images/kman-clay.jpg[/url]

See this site:

Kennewick Man News: [url]http://www.newnation.org/NNN-kennewick-man.html[/url]

[QUOTE]Meadowcroft still ignites controversy over settlers (ref to Kennewick Man) What Meadowcroft suggests is that Paleo Indians from Asia came by land and sea in pulses of migration to North and South America, eventually winding up at the rock shelter. Adovasio, then a professor at the University of Pittsburgh, began excavation in 1973, and in 1975 published his first findings that people used the rock shelter 16,000 to 17,000 years ago. It was archaeological heresy. Until Meadowcroft, the oldest evidence of human existence in North America was found in Clovis, N.M., where artifacts were 11,200 years old. **In Washington, discovery of Kennewick Man, a Caucasoid who lived 9,300 years ago, raised new questions about whether early inhabitants came from Europe. **

url: [url]http://www.post-gazette.com/neigh_washington/20001015wadave1.asp[/url]

STARLOG: REMAINS OF CAPTAIN BEAMED DOWN TO THE PLANET OF THE APES 9,000 YEARS AGO FOUND. BURY HIM FAST, BEFORE ANYONE CATCHES ON. by H. Millard (c) 2000

Recently, Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbit cheerily agreed to let five American Indian tribes have the remains of the Kennewick Man, so they can bury these remains in a proper Indian ritual. The problem is that the Kennewick Man was probably a white guy and not an Indian. His skull isn't an Indian skull at all, but is the kind of skull that white people have. Why's that a problem? Because he was hanging around in America 9,000 years ago; long before any evil white people were supposed to have been here. The remains were found near the Columbia River in Washington state, and apparently there weren't even any Indians around there until about 3,000 years ago.

The Kennewick Man is one of those inconvenient things that pop up every so often that cuts the legs out from various PC dogmatic truths. Suddenly, the Indians who have been claiming a moral high ground because "they were here first," have a rival. And, the rival may have been a white guy! "Oh, no, please don't let him have been a white guy," seems to have been the cry from the white haters in our nation. "Hurry and bury him, so the Indians can retain their moral high ground." So, although scientists want to do more testing on the remains to prove the Kennewick Man's genetic origin, the white haters won't allow it. An interesting thing about the Kennewick Man is that the reconstruction of his head, done from his skull, bears a striking resemblance to the actor Patrick Stewart who plays Capt. Piccard of the Starship Enterprise. In fact, the resemblance is so close that one is hard pressed to tell one from the other. Perhaps we need to look at Stewart's family tree to see if any of his ancestors disappeared from Europe while on a boat trip about 9,000 years ago, and maybe the remains should be given to Stewart to bury in Europe in a proper pre-Christian European ritual. [/QUOTE]


skemper

2004-02-12 15:21 | User Profile

Faust,

This Kennewick man does indeed look causcoid. Whether he came over the Pacific or over the glaciers from Europe, we may never know, but there is plenty of evidence that whites have migrated to many places on earth in the distant past where nonwhites were and are today. Whites like to explore new frontiers, whether they be actual new unknown places, or the edges of knowledge, as in science.


SchwarzeSonne

2004-02-25 05:37 | User Profile

There is no doubt that the Kennewick fossil is interesting. As an undergrad in Anthropology, I handled hundreds of American Indian skulls. My opinion is that Kennewick does not look like those skulls. Yet, he does not look European either. He might be some sort of East Asian immigrant who was mostly Caucasian.


Faust

2004-02-26 14:15 | User Profile

SchwarzeSonne,

[QUOTE]There is no doubt that the Kennewick fossil is interesting. As an undergrad in Anthropology, I handled hundreds of American Indian skulls. My opinion is that Kennewick does not look like those skulls. Yet, he does not look European either. He might be some sort of East Asian immigrant who was mostly Caucasian. [/QUOTE]

Today, you would never get to see one. I note all the museums seem to have taken them off display. And large numbers of them have been destroyed!