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SummersDay [OP]

2004-02-08 22:51 | User Profile

[color=magenta][size=4]SOME FACTS ABOUT PALESTINE/ISRAEL.[/size][/color]

[color=red]SOME POPULATION FIGURES FOR MANDATE PALESTINE.[/color]

In 1880 there were [color=red]24,000[/color] Jews living among [color=blue]450,000[/color] Palestinians.

In 1914 there were [color=red]56,000[/color] Jews living among [color=blue]715,000[/color] Palestinians.

In 1922 there were [color=red]83,000[/color] Jews living among [color=blue]663,000[/color] Palestinians.

In 1936 there were [color=red]385,400[/color] Jews living among [color=blue]983,200[/color] Palestinians.

In 1940 there were [color=red]467,000[/color] Jews living among [color=blue]1,050,000[/color] Palestinians.

In 1946 there were [color=red]600,000[/color] Jews living among [color=blue]1,300,000[/color] Palestinians.

[color=red]THINGS TO NOTE:[/color]

In 1880 Jews were ONLY 5.3% of the total population of Palestine (and had been this percentage of the population (or less) for more than a thousand years). In 1946 the Jewish population was almost entirely comprised of recent immigrants (people who had been in the country less than twenty years).

This group of recent immigrants were publicly claiming that the (entire) land belonged to them (apparently they believed that some god had given it to them). These wild claims made non-Jews who lived in Palestine (we will call them Palestinians) very nervous, especially since the Jews claimed to want an ethnically pure state.

These non-Jews were (very) afraid that they would be kicked out of any new entity that claimed to be a Jewish state.

[color=red]SOME POPULATION FIGURES FOR ISRAEL AFTER THE GREAT JEWISH LAND GRAB OF 1948.[/color]

In 1948 there were [color=blue]155,000[/color] Palestinians living among [color=red]716,700[/color] Jews.

In 1951 there were [color=blue]173,000[/color] Palestinians living among [color=red]1,577,000[/color] Jews.

[color=red]THINGS TO NOTE:[/color]

The fears of the non-Jews who lived in Palestine were well founded.

That in 1948 all but 155,000 of the 873,600 Palestinians living in the area that became Israel, were [url=http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html]ethnically cleansed[/url] from the newly formed Jewish state.

This ethnic cleansing was extremely brutal (and has been well documented).

Quoting [url=http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/ameu_iraqjews.html]Naeim Giladi[/url].

And I began to find out about the barbaric methods used to rid the fledgling state of as many Palestinians as possible. The world recoils today at the thought of bacteriological warfare, but Israel was probably the first to actually use it in the Middle East. In the 1948 war, Jewish forces would empty Arab villages of their populations, often by threats, sometimes by just gunning down a half-dozen unarmed Arabs as examples to the rest. To make sure the Arabs couldn't return to make a fresh life for themselves in these villages, the Israelis put typhus and dysentery bacteria into the water wells.

[color=blue]BEFORE 1948 THERE WERE 475 PALESTINIAN TOWNS AND VILLAGES IN PALESTINE.[/color]

[color=blue]SINCE THEN 385 OF THESE HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY ERASED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH (USUALLY BULLDOZED), BY THE JEWS/ISRAELIS.[/color]

The houses, and property that was destroyed had been owned by those Palestinians killed, or forced to flee, by the barbaric tactics of the Jews. These destroyed towns and villages were rebuilt (with new Jewish names) as Jewish only towns and villages. The Palestinians who had been forced to leave were not allowed back. They were not even allowed back into the Jewish state, let alone back to their (now destroyed) towns and villages.

[color=red]Many Christians support Israel, but they should realize that before the establishment of the Jewish state, Palestine was about 12% Christian (Israel is now about 2% Christian). They should also remember that the Palestinian Christians had lived in the area since about 300 AD (when Palestine was predominantly Christian) and that they shared the land with Moslems from about 700 AD to the creation of Israel, when they were kicked out along with the Moslems (by the Jews).[/color]

[url=http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story559.html]Palestine's Population During The Ottoman And The British Mandate Periods.[/url]

[url=http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html]http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html[/url]

[url=http://www.nimn.org/history/population.html]http://www.nimn.org/history/population.html[/url]

[url=http://members.fortunecity.com/911/destroyed-towns.htm]Listing and Map of Towns and Villages Ethnically Cleansed/Destroyed by the Jews.[/url]

And now lets examine the claim that the Jews bought all the land and thus "now owned it" and were thus "entitled" to ethnically cleanse Palestine.

IN 1880 THE JEWS OWNED APPROXIMATELY [color=red]0%[/color] OF THE LAND. IN 1946 THE JEWS OWNED APPROXIMATELY [color=red]6%[/color] OF THE LAND.

And even this 6% (more precisely 6.66%) of the land is contested. Much of the land was bought from people who had registered the land in their name, but who did not in any sense own the land, but that is another story. The point is that owning 6% of the land (about 20% of the farmland) does not entitle a minority to claim the entire land (even if they claim that some god gave it to them).

[url=http://members.fortunecity.com/911/stolen-land.htm]Listing and Map of Land Ownership In Palestine As In 1947.[/url]

In all this the Jews just acted as a bunch of thieves and criminals.

[color=red]For those interested, here are 1922-1938 population figures for Palestine (Arab-Jew breakdown).[/color]

Year [color=blue]Arabs[/color] [color=red]Jews[/color] Total 1922 [color=blue]668,258[/color] [color=red]83,790[/color] 752,048 1923 [color=blue]689,329[/color] [color=red]89,660[/color] 778,989 1924 [color=blue]710,017[/color] [color=red]94,945[/color] 804,962 1925 [color=blue]725,513[/color] [color=red]121,725[/color] 847,238 1926 [color=blue]748,862[/color] [color=red]149,500[/color] 898,362 1927 [color=blue]767,526[/color] [color=red]149,789[/color] 917,315 1928 [color=blue]784,295[/color] [color=red]151,656[/color] 935,951 1929 [color=blue]803,562[/color] [color=red]156,481[/color] 960,043 1930 [color=blue]827,763[/color] [color=red]164,796[/color] 992,559 1931 [color=blue]851,706[/color] [color=red]172,028[/color] 1,023,734 1932 [color=blue]872,079[/color] [color=red]180,793[/color] 1,052,872 1933 [color=blue]895,677[/color] [color=red]209,207[/color] 1,104,884 1934 [color=blue]917,458[/color] [color=red]253,700[/color] 1,171,158 1935 [color=blue]940,724[/color] [color=red]320,358[/color] 1,261,082 1936 [color=blue]966,035[/color] [color=red]370,483[/color] 1,336,518 1937 [color=blue]997,233[/color] [color=red]386,074[/color] 1,383,307 1938 [color=blue]1,018,811[/color] [color=red]399,808[/color] 1,418,619

These figures are from the [url=http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/62c13fb98d54fe240525672700581383/c61b138f4dbb08a0052565d00058ee1b!OpenDocument]UNISPAL website.[/url]

And here are some official estimates of the numbers of Palestinians ethnically cleansed by the Jews:

Source of Estimate [color=blue]Number of Refugees[/color] [color=red]Date of Estimate[/color] Reference
United States [color=blue]875,000[/color] [color=red]1953[/color] Ref. 1 British Govt [color=blue]810,000[/color] [color=red]Feb 1949[/color] Ref. 2 United Nations [color=blue]726,000[/color] [color=red]Sept 1949[/color] Ref. 3 United Nations [color=blue]957,000[/color] [color=red]May 1950[/color] Ref. 3 Israeli Govt [color=blue]520,000[/color] [color=red]1948[/color] Ref. 4 Palestinian [color=blue]780,000[/color] [color=red]end 1948[/color] Ref. 5 Palestinian [color=blue]744,150[/color] [color=red]mid 1948[/color] Ref. 6 Palestinian [color=blue]850,276[/color] [color=red]Nov 1952[/color] Ref. 7

1 "The Problem of Arab Refugees from Palestine," U.S. Government Report of the Subcommittee on the Near East and Africa (Foreign Relations Committee, 24 July 1953).

2 PROFO371-754196 E2297/1821/31

3 United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine: Report of the UN Economic Survey Mission for the Middle East, UN Document A/AC.25/6, p. 18; Annual Report of the Director General of UNRWA, Director's Report, UN Document 5224/5223, 25 November 1952.

4 Morris, Benny, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1989, p. 297.

5 Khalidi, Walid et al., eds., All that Remains: The Palestinian Villages Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948, 1992, Appendix III, p. 582.

6 Said, Edward et al., A Profile of the Palestinian People, Third Ed, 1990, p. 6; Abu-Lughod, Janet, "The Demographic Transformation of Palestine," in Ibrahim Abu-Lughod, ed., The Transformation of Palestine, 1971, pp. 139-63.

7 Hagopian, Edward and A.B. Zahlen, "Palestine's Arab Population," Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. III, Walid Khalidi et al., eds., 1974, pp. 32-73.


Ponce

2004-02-08 23:06 | User Profile

I wish the newspaper in the USA would publish the facts that you posted here. I have seen them before but yours is the most complete one. We do know who runs the newspapers in this country and that's why will never see them published........ I hope that many people are able to see it here. I place it in my favorite place and will post it in my more places,,,,,, "When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark"... Ponce


SummersDay

2004-02-09 00:02 | User Profile

You may also fing the following figures interesting:

The following table lists the area of Palestine purchased by Jews by the end of the given year.

Year [color=blue]Area (dunums)[/color] [color=red]Percentage of Palestine (26,323,000 dunums)[/color] 1882 [color=blue]22,500[/color] [color=red]0.1 %[/color] 1900 [color=blue]218,000[/color] [color=red]0.8 %[/color] 1914 [color=blue]418,000[/color] [color=red]1.6 %[/color] 1927 [color=blue]865,000[/color] [color=red]3.2 %[/color] 1936 [color=blue]1,231,000[/color] [color=red]4.7 %[/color] 1945 [color=blue]1,588,365[/color] [color=red]6.0 %[/color] 1947 [color=blue]1,734,000[/color] [color=red]6.6 %[/color]

Source of data: Granott, Agrarian Reform and the Record of Israel, p. 28, and A Survey of Palestine (Volume 1 of 3), p. 244.

Note that: 1 dunum = 1,000 square meters = 0.1 hectare = 0.2471 acres, which is very close to one quarter acre.


Franco

2004-02-09 00:13 | User Profile

Great info, SummersDay.

How odd that if Jews do it, it is not called apartheid/ethnic cleansing. If Whites do it, it is. One standard for God's Special Lapdogs, another for everyone else...


SummersDay

2004-03-03 01:48 | User Profile

But the Jews here want to let this one die a quiet death too.


Valley Forge

2004-03-03 01:49 | User Profile

WTF are you talking about?

Which "Jews" here?