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2004-02-02 14:47 | User Profile
I was listening to Hannity's silly show the other day when Bob Dornan, the open borders nutcase who lost his seat to Loretta Sanchez got on line and started telling Hannity that he was running for congress again. Knowing something about Dornan I wasn't surprised to hear that he was in a new district and had to go through a primary. I figured that he was running against Darryl Issa. No, it is Dana Robacher. Dornan went on to smear the hell out of Rohrbacher by saying that he received money from "terrorists," implying that he supported them. It looks like Rohrbacher is the lastest target of the Israel First lobby. Below is an article from Horowitz's Frontpage mag he urged Hannity's listeners to read. A while later Rohrbacher came on, but didn't wish to argue with Dornan. In view of Dornan's irritating habit of interrupting people I don't blame him. Of course, he denied Dornan's line of b.s.
Anyone know exactly what Rohrbacher has done to get these people mad at him?
Dana Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s Troubling Friends By Kenneth R. Timmerman FrontPageMagazine.com | January 26, 2004
Top Jewish Republicans who have supported Congressman Dana Rohrabacher
(R-CA) for decades said in interviews that they have ââ¬Åserious concernsââ¬Â with
the California Republicanââ¬â¢s ties to radical Muslim groups and their foreign
backers, and his outspoken efforts to champion their cause in Congress.
ââ¬ÅBefore 9-11, Danaââ¬â¢s views seemed idiosyncratic,ââ¬Â said Arnold Steinberg, a
political consultant whose ties to Rohrabacher go back to Youth for
Goldwater in 1964. ââ¬ÅWe rationalized that he wasnââ¬â¢t fully informed or had a
blind spotââ¬Â to the Islamists, who were contributing to his re-election
campaigns, hanging around his office, and sponsoring trips by Rohrabacher
and his staff to the Arab Middle East.
Rohrabacher seemingly paid back those contributors by an ââ¬Åeven-handedââ¬Â
approach toward the Israeli-Arab conflict, a key demand of influential
Muslim backers. ââ¬ÅEven-handedââ¬Â is a code-word used by radical Muslim groups,
such as the American Muslim Council (AMC) and the Council on
American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), to signify support for the Palestinian
cause, including Hamas, and angry condemnation of Israel as a terrorist
state.
After 9-11, Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s views and public actions took on a more sinister
appearance, as radical Muslim groups began to count on him increasingly as
support for their positions dwindled in Congress.
In a heated May 2, 2002 exchange with conservative talk show host Alan
Keyes, for instance, Rohrabacher insisted that ââ¬Å[Israeli Prime Minister
Ariel] Sharon and [Palestinian Authority President Yasser] Arafat are cut
out of the same clothââ¬Â and claimed that ââ¬Åthereââ¬â¢s been acts of terrorism
committed against the Palestinian people as well,ââ¬Â statements that made
Keyes audibly gasp.
When challenged, Rohrabacher claimed that targeting civilians ââ¬Åwas standard
operating procedure of the Israeli army for years of occupation,ââ¬Â when in
fact the Israelis have consistently sought to spare civilians even at the
price of the lives of their own soldiers, as was the case during the April
2002 battle of Jenin. Challenged a second time by Keyes, who called his
comments ââ¬Åoutrageously objectionable,ââ¬Â Rohrabacher reiterated his belief
that ââ¬Åboth sides have committed terrorism.ââ¬Â
Rohrabacher was one of four Republicans and seventeen Democrats who voted no
to a May 2, 2002 Congressional resolution (HR 392) that expressed support
for Israel as it faced a wave of terrorist attacks that killed more than 600
civilians. The resolution, which radical American Muslim groups lobbied
against unsuccessfully, also stated that ââ¬Åthe United States and Israel are
now engaged in a common struggle against terrorism.ââ¬Â
Voting with Rohrabacher against the resolution were Democrats such as
Cynthia McKinney, Jesse Jackson, Jr. (Ill), Barbara Lee (CA), Peter Defazio
(Or), and Michigan Representatives John Conyers, David Bonior, and John
Dingell, all of whom have taken campaign cash from donors who have publicly
supported Hamas and other terrorist organizations. ââ¬ÅDana has allied himself
with the anti-American left-wing thugs that we always opposed,ââ¬Â said
Steinberg.
Some of Rohbacherââ¬â¢s Muslim donors are currently in federal prison awaiting
trial on terrorism-related charges.
Steinberg is just one of a closely-knit group of Rohrbacher friends and
supporters who have been trying over the past eighteen months to get the
California libertarian to open himself up to other viewpoints. For years,
these supporters - many of whom asked not to be cited by name for this
article - have urged Rohrabacher to travel to Israel. When he complained
that no one would sponsor the trip, they offered to pay his travel expenses,
but again he refused.
ââ¬ÅHe was a journalist for years, he was in the White House, he was a member
of congress since 1988,ââ¬Â one donor said. ââ¬ÅSomehow, he never went to Israel,
despite trips all over the world, and especially to Arab countries.ââ¬Â
Rohrabacher finally traveled to Israel and the Palestinian territories as
part of a three-day Congressional delegation in 2003.
ââ¬ÅDana has a very antagonist attitude toward Ariel Sharon,ââ¬Â says long-time
supporter Howard Klein, a member of the influential Lincoln Club of Orange
county Republicans. ââ¬ÅBut it goes much deeper than that. He doesnââ¬â¢t
understand the strategic or moral imperatives in the U.S. alliance with
Israel and the forces that want to drive Israel to extinction.ââ¬Â
Rohrabacher refused to answer questions for this article, on the grounds
that the publisher of Frontpagemag.com, David Horowitz, has been ââ¬Åactively
involved in trying to recruit someone to run against him in the Republican
primary,ââ¬Â a spokesman said. But an aid who accompanied him on the trip to
Israel insisted that Rohrabacher ââ¬Åspoke the same languageââ¬Â to Israeli and
Palestinian leaders, infuriating them both.
ââ¬ÅIn Ramallah, he told [Palestinian security chief] Mohammad Dahlan that the
Palestinians had to give up the right of return,ââ¬Â the aid said, referring to
a long-held PLO position that insists on including Palestinian refugees from
the 1948 war in a final settlement by allowing them to return to the
properties they abandoned more than fifty years ago. ââ¬ÅIn Israel, he told the
Foreign Minister that Israel would have to give up the settlements.ââ¬Â
Rohrabacher aids insisted that the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee
(AIPAC), which regularly sponsors congressional fact-finding missions to
Israel, never offered to take Rohrabacher along.
But an official at AIPACââ¬â¢s legislative affairs department gave a more
nuanced account. ââ¬ÅWeââ¬â¢ve offered repeatedly to take Rohrabacher to Israel,
but he always had a scheduling conflict.ââ¬Â The one time Rohrabacher asked
AIPAC to sponsor him was to make a trip during the Easter recess. ââ¬ÅThat
happens to fall during the Jewish Passover, when nobody is around you can
talk to,ââ¬Â the AIPAC official said. ââ¬ÅWe donââ¬â¢t do Israel trips over Passover.ââ¬Â
ââ¬ÅDana thinks Israel is a rogue state,ââ¬Â another supporter complained. ââ¬ÅTo our
regret, he is turning into the Paul Findley of our times and has become a
mouthpiece for extremist views.ââ¬Â Former Illinois Congressman Findley has
been lionized by radical Muslim groups for denouncing AIPAC lobbying efforts
in Congress.
Shawn Steele, a recent chairman of the California Republican Party, counts
himself as a long-time Rohrabacher supporter. ââ¬ÅDana is my best friend, and
Iââ¬â¢m deeply involved with his re-election campaign, but I have been unhappy
with some of his utterances.ââ¬Â
While he was serving as state Republican Party chairman, Steele proudly
opened the Party to local Muslims. Recently, however, he ran afoul of the
Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) when he told a ââ¬Åsupport the
troopsââ¬Â rally sponsored by the University of Southern California chapter of
College Republicans that the Muslim community ââ¬Åhas a cancer growing within
it, which hates Jews, hates freedom, and hates Western society.ââ¬Â
Following that speech, Steele says he was barraged with hate mail from CAIR
supporters, and was ultimately sued by a top CAIR official in California.
The officialââ¬â¢s suit was dismissed by Orange County Superior Court last
December.
Steele believes that Rohrabacher is ââ¬Åin the process of changing his views,ââ¬Â
and has been ââ¬Ådismayed with the lack of support for the U.S. mission in Iraq
among his Muslim friends.ââ¬Â
Foremost among those friends is Khaled Saffuri, a former government affairs
director of the American Muslim Council who has coordinated contributions to
Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s re-election campaigns from Muslim donors, some of whom today
are in federal prison on terrorism-related charges.
While at AMC, Saffuri worked under AMC Executive Director Abdulrahman
Alamoudi, who was jailed last October on charges of illegally laundering
money from the Libyan government. At a September 2000 rally in Lafayette
Park in front of the White House, Alamoudi led followers in chanting their
support for Hamas and Lebanonââ¬â¢s Hezbollah, both of which are considered as
international terrorist organizations by the U.S. government.
As AMCââ¬â¢s chief Washington lobbyist from 1995-1998, Saffuri worked to
organize AMC members and contributors into an effective political force.
Besides $10,400 in direct contributions he made to Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s re-election
campaigns, he helped raise another $24,000 for in direct contributions to
Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s campaign war chest from AMC members and sympathizers,
according to publicly-available Federal Election Commission records compiled
for this article.
Born to Palestinian parents, Saffuri has made a career in Washington, DC of
putting a moderate face onto radical Islamic causes while mixing with a
Wahhabi-inspired network of donors who include Alamoudi and former
University of South Florida teacher Sami Al-Arian, who was jailed on Feb.
20, 2003 for his alleged involvement in the leadership of Palestinian
Islamic Jihad, an outlawed terrorist group.
Even more disturbing are Saffuriââ¬â¢s ties to Jamal Barzinji, the head of a
group of Muslim charities that has been targeted by a joint U.S. government
task force investigating terrorist-related fund-raising in the United
States, revealed here for the first time.
The charities, which include the Safa Group, SAAR, and Barzinjiââ¬â¢s Marjac
group of investment companies, are sometimes referred to by federal
prosecutors as ââ¬Å555 Grove street,ââ¬Â the address they shared in suburban
Herndon, Virginia.
Organizations tied to Safa Group that were raided by the Greenquest task
force on March 20, 2002 include the International Islamic Relief
Organization (IIRO), the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), and
al-Haramain, all of which have been linked by prosecutors to al-Qaeda.
A lawyer representing the Safa Group, Nancy Luqué, insists that her clients
have not been charged with any crime. But a previously-sealed affidavit that
lays out the governmentââ¬â¢s motives for the massive raid alleges that Barjinzi
and the Safa Group companies were ââ¬Åsuspected of providing material support
to terrorists, money laundering, and tax evasion through the use of a
variety of for-profit companies and ostensible charitable entities under
their control, most of which are located at 555 Grove Street, Herndon,
Virginia.ââ¬Â
Saffuri collected contributions from Barjinzi and thirteen other individuals
who listed their occupation as officers or employees of Safa Group companies
for a political action committee he established in April 1993, known as
National Muslims for a Better America (NMBA).
For the five years of its official existence, which overlapped Saffuriââ¬â¢s
stint as Government Affairs director for the AMC, NMBA shared offices with
the AMC at 1212 New York Avenue, Suite 400. That was the same address listed
by Abdulrahman Alamoudi in his contributions to NMBA.
Among the contributors to Saffuriââ¬â¢s AMC-sponsored PAC:
â⬠Hisham Al-Talib, who lists his employer alternately as the SAAR Foundation
and Marjac Investment Group, the private company controlled by Barzinji.
â⬠Muhammad Ashraf, ââ¬Åan officer and/or director of Safa Group companies
including Sterling Investment Group, Sterling Charitable Gift Fund, and York
Foundation,ââ¬Â according to the governmentââ¬â¢s affidavit. Ashrafââ¬â¢s residence at
12528 Rock Ridge Road in Herndon was one of the locations searched during
the March 2002 raid.
â⬠Mohammad Jaglit, a SAAR Foundation director consided by federal
investigators as a key figure in the terror-support networks whose residence
was also raided. The affidavit cites Jaglit as ââ¬Åan active supporter of
[Sami] Al-Arian and [Palestinian Islamic Jihad], both ideologically and
financially,ââ¬Â and notes that letters accompanying checks he sent Al-Arian
from the SAAR Foundation instructed Al-Arian ââ¬Ånot to disclose the
contribution publicly or to the media.ââ¬Â
â⬠Yaquib Mirza, a Pakistani national considered to be the financial wizard
of the Safa/SAAR network.
â⬠Basheer Nafi, identified as the ââ¬ÅUS agent of [Palestinian Islamic Jihad]
in the affidavit
â⬠Iqbal Unus, a director of Safa Group companies ââ¬Åincluding Child
Development Foundation,ââ¬Â whose Herndon, Va residence was raided.
During the entire period the AMCââ¬â¢s PAC operated, from 1993-1998, Saffuri was
listed as its Treasurer. Altogether, he raised just over $28,000 for the
AMC-sponsored PAC and distributed it to members of Congress including
Rohrabacher and Democrats Cynthia McKinney, David Bonior, John Conyers, Bill
Richardson, James Traficant, Peter Defazio, and Nick Rahall.
Saffuri dissolved NMBA in May 1998. Since leaving the AMC, he has severed
public ties with his former friends and colleagues, joining forces instead
with conservative activist Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax
Reform.
Together with Norquist, he established the Islamic Institute in 1998 with
seed money provided in part by donors in Saudi Arabia and by the Government
of Qatar.
During the 2000 election campaign, Saffuri became the head of Muslim
Outreach for the Bush-Cheney campaign, and orchestrated a meeting between
Governor George W. Bush and Al-Arian during a campaign stopover in south
Florida.
Since then, Saffuri and Norquist have helped set up meetings in the Oval
Office with the president for AMC and CAIR leaders. White House officials
have acknowledged that Alamoudi attended at least one of these sessions with
the president.
Saffuri and Norquist have also set up meetings for leaders of radical Muslim
groups with FBI Director Robert Mueller and with Attorney General John
Ashcroft, to urge the Bush administration to abandon the USA Patriot Act.
Government records disclosed in affidavits supporting the arrests of
Al-Arian and Alamoudi show that the Justice Department has long sought to
dismantle alleged terrorist-support networks operating in the United States,
but lacked the legal tools for successful prosecution until the USA Patriot
Act became law in 2002.
Rohrabacher voted for the USA Patriot Act in its original form in 2002, but
also voted for amendments putting restrictions of government investigative
powers that passed Congress overwhelmingly last year.
Rohrabacher friends and colleagues believe that Norquist initially
introduced Rohrabacher to Saffuri. They point to the Congressmanââ¬â¢s
long-standing ties to Norquist, which go back at least as early as the
mid-1980s, when they worked together to build support for anti-Communist
insurgencies in Afghanistan, Angola, Cambodia and Nicaragua.
ââ¬ÅGrover has led a lot of people astray in recent years,ââ¬Â one Rohrabacher
colleague said. ââ¬ÅSaffuri would always call Danaââ¬â¢s office whenever he was
doing an event, just as any lobbyist would do. He was well-schooled by
Grover on how to be a politicianââ¬â¢s buddy.ââ¬Â
Rohrabacher friends and backers in California discounted the campaign
contributions from radical Muslim groups and their supporters documented
here - $34,450 over a ten year period - as insignificant. ââ¬ÅDana canââ¬â¢t be
bought,ââ¬Â one long-time friend confided. ââ¬ÅWhat you are seeing here is a
commonality of interest, not someone who has been bought. Dana is a lazy
fund-raiser who has gotten used to running in a safe district.ââ¬Â
But Frank Gaffney, whose 11,000 word expose of Norquistââ¬â¢s ties to radical
Islamic groups was published by frontpagemag.com in December, believes the
apparently small amounts of money contributed by Saffuri and the Safa Group
donors to Rohrabacher is misleading. ââ¬ÅWe tend to underestimate how much
influence $2,000 can buy you. It means you are a maximum-level donor, so you
get on the guyââ¬â¢s radar screen. I worry that Danaââ¬â¢s poor judgment has given
rise to openings to people who shouldnââ¬â¢t have access to members of
Congress,ââ¬Â Gaffney said.
He was not the only source who warned of a ââ¬Åclassic influence operation.ââ¬Â
Key to understanding Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s ties to radical Islamic groups and the
causes they espouse are several trips Rohrabacher has made to Qatar, paid
for by the Islamic Institute and the Government of Qatar, according to
Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s financial disclosure forms.
Coordinated in part with the Heritage Foundation, the conferences ostensibly
focused on promoting free market economics in the Arab and Muslim world.
During the April 2001 trip, however ââ¬â just months before the 9-11 attacks -
Rohrabacher met privately with Taliban Foreign Minister Mullah Wakil Ahmed
Muttawakil. Wakil on the fringes of the conference, which Norquist and
Saffuri also attended.
Wakil reportedly asked Rohrabacher to lobby the Bush administration for an
increase in foreign aid to Afghanistan, apparently in exchange for a Taliban
pledge to allow U.S. oil company UNOCAL to build a pipeline to bring oil
from land-locked Central Asia to Pakistan and India. The pipeline project,
as well as political support for the Taliban, were earlier championed by the
Clinton administration.
Secretary of State Madeline Albright met with top Taliban leaders during a
visit to Pakistan in November 1997, and U.S. ambassador to the United
Nations Bill Richardson went to Kabul in April 1998, just three months
before Bin Laden operatives blew up U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania,
killing more than 200 civilians.
According to an AFP account of the Rohrabacher-Taliban meeting, Saffuri told
an Al Jazeera reporter that "The position of the Taliban was flexible on
most of the issues and the Afghan delegation showed itself to be ready for
dialogue."
The Taliban later announced in Kabul that it had rejected what it considered
were unreasonable demands by the U.S. side. Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s staff would not
answer questions about the Taliban talks.
Norquist tried to downplay Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s meeting with the Taliban when asked
about it by liberal columnist Josh Michael. ââ¬Å"Dana ran into some guy who was
a representative of the Afghan government, and since he [Rohrabacher] had
worked in Afghanistan he sat down and talked to the guy. They literally met
in the hallway. I just remembered Dana mentioning that he ran into these
guys ... and he yelled at them about blowing up the Buddhist statues."
Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s Democratic opponent in 2002, Gerry Schipske, tried to make a
political issue of the meeting by accusing Rohrabacher of meeting ââ¬Åsecretlyââ¬Â
with the Taliban in violation of the Logan act, which prohibits private
individuals from conducting foreign policy in the name of the United States.
But Rohrabacher never concealed the meeting, and indeed, told wire service
reporters who were present in Doha at the time that he had discussed a
ââ¬Åpeace planââ¬Â with the Taliban.
Rohrabacher was quoted in the November/December 1996 issue of the Washington
Report on Middle East Affairs, a pro-Muslim broadsheet, as calling the
Taliban ââ¬Ådevout traditionalists ââ¬â not terrorists or revolutionaries.ââ¬Â
While Rohrabacherââ¬â¢s judgment on the Taliban ââ¬â which he has since reversed ââ¬â
coincided with the policies of the Clinton administration at the time, it
also fit nicely with the views of the Qatari and Saudi governments, who
along with Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates were the sole international
supporters of the Taliban.
ââ¬ÅDana was more naïve and more loyal than he should have beenââ¬Â when he agreed
to April 2001 meeting, a former colleague said. ââ¬ÅHe listened to Saffuri and
he shouldnââ¬â¢t have. Qatar is the influence-peddling center of the Middle
East, and Dana fell right into the trap they set for him.ââ¬Â
Kenneth Timmerman is author of Preachers of Hate: Islam and the War on
America and a senior writer for Insight Magazine.
"Free Republic" link. Lots of stupid comments, a few of merit.
[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1068553/posts[/url]
2004-02-02 17:57 | User Profile
Not sure about the Hate State, but Congressman Rohrabacher is also catching flak for his immigration-cost control bill (see his homepage for details). Give 'im a ring and let the 20-something intern know he's doing a good job on that one.
2004-02-03 15:04 | User Profile
[url]http://www.metnews.com/articles/thoughtclash122002.htm[/url]
2004-02-05 03:44 | User Profile
EDUMAKATEDMOFO,
Thanks for the link. I figured as much when Dornan started blowing his lungs out on Hannity's show. I'd like to know if Sloan is a Jew or just a front man, but a halfway intelligent and informed voter can see the hand of A.I.P.A.C. behind this letter. The arrogance and threatening nature and the Israel First stand of Sloan speaks out for all to see.
================================== [size=4]Metropolitan News-Enterprise
Friday, December 20, 2002
Former Judge Says Congressman Maintains Anti-Israel Stances
Former Los Angeles County Bar Assn. president Sheldon D. Sloan ââ¬â who was reputedly influential with Republican Governors George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson and is said to maintain strong GOP ties ââ¬â is engaged in efforts to dump Dana Rohrabacher, a seven-term Republican congressman from Orange County.
Sloan, a retired Los Angeles Municipal Court judge, accuses Rohrabacher of maintaining an anti-Israeli and pro-Arab policy, which the legislator denies.
In a recent letter addressed ââ¬ÅDear Friends,ââ¬Â Sloan wrote:[/size]
I seldom get as exorcised about a public official as I am about Dana Rohrabacher, the long term Member of the House of Representatives from Orange County. Congressman Rohrabacher is an embarrassment to the Congress of the United States, to the President of the United States, to the Republican Party, and to his constituents. He represents a ââ¬Åsafeââ¬Â Republican electorate, in which a Democrat has virtually no chance of being elected.
He has voted against Israel and against the President in all matters concerning Israel. Congressman Rohrabacher needs a challenger in the Republican Primary in the next election, a person that can represent the people of the State of California, not the special Arab interests that Rohrabacher coddles up to at every opportunity.
Many good Republicans, who share my views have been trying to convince former Republican Congressman, Steve Kuykendall to run for this seat. Steve was an outstanding member of the State Assembly, and an outstanding Congressman, but lost a close race in a district that had insurmountable demographics against him.
The district now represented by Rohrabacher knows Steve well and they have voted strongly for him in the past. With a good campaign and broad based financial support, Steve can win this seat, and do an excellent job for California and America.
[SIZE=4]Rohrabacher wrote to Sloan:[/SIZE]
I was saddened by your accusatory letter sent to our fellow Republicans. It was both factually inaccurate and unnecessarily derogatory in its tone. Perhaps you are unaware of my record or you would not have suggested in your letter that I have voted against the President and against Israel in all matters. Whoever told you that is a liar of the first order and in the future you should not be passing on information from that source without verification.
On the vast majority of votes concerning Israel I have been on the side of that country, including votes condemning terrorist acts against Israel and supporting efforts to prevent Israel or Israeli citizens from being targeted by hostile forces. The outrage that has been pointed in my direction derives from my votes in opposition to legislation concerning Israel when that legislation is not also in the interest of the United States. But yes, sometimes what is in Israelââ¬â¢s interest is not in the interest of the United States, although that is difficult for some people to grasp. Unlike many other Members of Congress, I do not feel compelled by political pressure to vote for every bill supporting Israel, especially when that legislation may be harmful to our country, the long term cause of peace in the Middle East and damaging to the prestige of our President. Contrary to your letter it was my vote supporting the position of the President of the United States that has created such a stir. Even though my overall voting record concerning issues regarding Israel remains at a high level.
Your suggestion that I coddle up to Arab interests certainly does not take into account my strenuous efforts and leadership to defeat Islamic extremism and the Arab enemies of the United States. You must be aware that I for years was the lone voice in Congress calling for action against the Taliban and Bin Laden. I spent much time and effort to organize a moderate Muslim alternative to this serious threat to our country. You must also know that I not only have been a point person in supporting the Presidentââ¬â¢s Iraqi policy but have been actively engaged in supporting the resistance to Saddam Hussein over the years. Far from coddling up to Arabs, when those regimes are the enemies of the Untied States, I have been their worst nightmare.
You should note that my associations in the Arab world have mainly been with countries like Qatar and Kuwait which are friends of the United States and evolving toward a more democratic society. Qatar is now leading the way with permitting women to vote and allowing a free press. You might also note that Qatar has an Israeli trading mission in its country.
Any involvement that I have had with Arabs or Israelis has always been aimed at supporting the interests of the United States and/or promoting the long term prospects for peace in the Middle East. However, simply rubber stamping everything any particular Israeli government demands is not in the interest of the United States and has not served the long term cause of peace. It has undercut compromise and bolstered intransigence when more flexibility could well have had positive results. I have always supported this President and every President in their efforts to bring peace to the Middle East but sometimes their efforts have been thwarted by a Congress unwilling to take the unjust criticism as reflected in your letter.
Just be aware that I continue publicly, and in their presence, to severely criticize all Arabs and Muslims who are intransigent towards Israel and all acts of terrorism against the Israeli people. Unfortunately, there are many Arab and Muslim Americans who refuse to criticize those enemies of Israel with whom they identify. Just as unfortunately, there are many people in the United States who are adamantly and emotionally committed to an ââ¬ÅIsrael right or wrongââ¬Â policy and are incapable of considering even constructive criticism of that country. By the way, I get my share of criticism from both sides.
When I was elected to Congress, I never expected, when making a tough stand, to be applauded for political courage or moral integrity. I will continue to vote my conscience as a representative of the people of the United States and this congressional district. And I would hope that your criticism in the future of how I do my job is based on accurate information and is hopefully a more balanced assessment.
[size=4]Sloan retorted:[/size]
I received your email of 12/6/02 with some mild surprise.ââ¬Â¦
Many have said to me that you just need to visit to Israel to realize the error of your ways. I hope they are right.
As a person who has shared most of your values for a long period, I am especially disappointed in your seemingly radical departure from the positions you espoused prior to 1994 and those you have embraced after that date. As a longtime Republican, I take no pleasure in reciting the parade of horribles I cite below. Any one of them would be reason enough to depart from that support and oppose your reelection. Taken together, it is a given that you will face strong opposition in the next election cycle.
You have chosen to characterize my statements as factually inaccurate and unnecessarily derogatory, yet in your letter to me I find no expression of support for Israel nor repudiation of what is generally referred to as the ââ¬Åmoral equivalencyââ¬Â line, used mostly by the liberal press in supporting the Palestinian position of terrorism against the State of Israel. Perhaps it was just an oversight; if so, I invite you to correct it.
Let me review some of the parts of your record with which I am familiar; perhaps they too need some correction:
Regarding your votes in Congress:
In 1991, you supported a resolution expressing solidarity with Israel in the face of scud attacks;
In 1991, you co-sponsored a bill urging Arabs to recognize Israel;
In 1993, you voted for a resolution urging Arabs to end the boycott of Israel;
But, in 1994, this pattern changed dramatically:
In 1994, you refused to sign a letter urging Arafat to condemn terrorism;
In 1996, you refused to sign a congressional letter urging Arafat to amend the PLO Charter;
In 1997, you were one of 18 signatories of a letter urging President Clinton to put pressure on Israel to refrain from building at Har Homa;
But, in 1998, you did co-sponsor, along with about 200 others, a congressional resolution expressing opposition to the unilateral declaration of a Palestinian State;
And, in 2001 you voted (along with 383 other congressmen and Senators) for a resolution expressing solidarity with Israel in the fight against terrorism;
But, in 2001 you refused to sign a letter urging reassessment of US relations with the Palestine Authority;
On Appropriations Bills, and Foreign Aid Bills, you have voted against appropriations for Israel about Two-Thirds of the time.
You have voted against Israel on practically every specific aid bill, particularly the bills to cut off all aid to Israel and Egypt.
You refrained from voting on a resolution congratulating Sharon for bringing an end to the violence. That resolution passed 410-1.
Publicly, you have:
Appeared on the Alan Keyes Show, espousing a support for the ââ¬ÅMoral Equivalencyââ¬Â line, equating the actions of Israel in defense of its people to that of the terrorists in killing innocent people without provocation;
Appeared in a joint appearance with Cynthia McKinney at what has been characterized as an Arab front group;
Traveled to several Arab countries numerous times;
Have received many donations from Arab-American Leaders, Arab political action committees, and their lobbyists, including Abdulwahab Alkebsi, a longtime Islamic Institute official who has protested raids on U.S. Organizations which the FBI says have terrorist connections, from Abdurahaman Alamoudi, who has publicly supported Hamas, one of the groups known for terrorist bombings in Israel, and many thousands of dollars from the Arab American Leadership PAC;
You have been reported in the Weekly as having conducted dangerous, unauthorized secret negotiations with the Taliban, Pre-September 11, 2001.
Privately, you are alleged to:
Equate Sharon with Arafat, and view Sharon as a terrorist;
Be unwilling to meet with Sharon;
Display an uncooperative attitude towards those who seek to arrange for you to go to Israel, in order to attempt to educate you on the living conditions.
I have attached an article by R. Scott Moxley, which compares you to Cynthia McKinney, the recently defeated, former five term Congresswoman from Georgia, who was so apart from the mainstream of her party that she was defeated by a novice in a primary this year. It basically asks the question, ââ¬ÅHow did Rohrabacher get away with this, while she paid the price?ââ¬Â
If my conclusions, based upon the above records are inaccurate, you have a splendid opportunity to correct them. All you need to do is:
Clearly express public support for the independence of the State of Israel and its right to protect its people by the pursuing of terrorists killers utilizing suicide bombs and weaponry against innocent, non-combatant women and children.
Stop equivocating and take the trip to Israel as soon as possible.
Return all donations received from all questionable sources, such as those enumerated above.
If you want to be treated fairly, then you must be fair. Stop coddling up to the Arabs and look at the situation from the point of view of Israel. Israel is the best friend the United States has in the world, and there are very few issues wherein the interests of the United States and those of the State of Israel differ.
The choice is yours; if a five term Democratic Congresswoman from Georgia can be defeated in a primary election, so can an eight term Republican Congressman from California.
Copyright 2002, Metropolitan News Company
Hannity to my knowledge hasn't commented on this since it occured. If push comes to shove I have no doubt who he will side with. By the way, McKinney is thinking of running again. I hope she does and wins. (This district is hopeless as far as having a decent rep goes.) That will drive the Jews nuts and if she loses it is still a financial outlay for them.
2004-02-05 04:13 | User Profile
He has voted against Israel
[sarcasm; not for women or small pets]:
Ooooh-my-God! He opposed God's Special Shiny Lapdogs! Quick -- call Reverend Steve FakeTeeth and Rabbi Hymie GimmeTheGold, quick! He can't doooooo that!
:smartass:
2004-02-05 04:15 | User Profile
B-1 Bob is a sick animal that needs to be put down. The Neocons are just evil!
2004-02-05 04:28 | User Profile
I hate that Wetback-loving, Afro-loving, MLK-worshiping fool!
Aztlan Defeats B-1 Bob
by H. Millard (from the November 1996 issue of The Nationalist Times)
Congressman Bob Dornan (Rep. -- Garden Grove, Calif.) has been around for six terms in Congress and has high name recognition, so how could a novice politician who no one knows possibly beat him? Easy. Her name is SANCHEZ.
While many whites are out trying to show that they don't care if someone is white or not, the non-whites are bloc-voting their own into office. This is what happened to Bob Dornan.
Perhaps Dornan brought this on himself with his quote about not caring if whites are replaced through immigration and by still telling everyone how he marched with Martin Luther King.
Congressman Dornan may be excused his inability to understand the reality of 1996 America because he's as much a victim of 30-plus years of propaganda as are most other white voters. For 30 years, whites have been apologizing for being white while non-whites have been taking pride in their own distinct heritages.
Whites have been extolling the virtue of the mythical meling pot, while not realizing that this hoary term was coined to indicate that the European peoples who immigrated here (and who were genetically similar) were having their national differences melted together in America. Genetically, there was little difference between the Englishman, the Frenchman, or the German or Pole.
Today, those incapable of critical thinking are once again positing the melting pot theory, asking the massive numbers of non-whites to jump into the pot, wave the flag, and "be Americans." Not surprisingly, many non-whites are saying, "No thanks. We like being who and what we ae. Unlike you whites who have no self-respect and no respect for your people we do have respect for ourselves and our people."
In California, with an invasion of people from Mexico and points south, there is a growing Mestizo Everyman emerging as various Spanish-speaking people jump into their own melting pot. So what we have taking place in California is a population of no-race-conscious whites being attacked by non-whites with highly developed race consciousness. The whites have been beaten down for so long that they are now dispirited much as the American Indians were earlier in this century to the point where they feel worthless.
To further confuse matters, there are certain white elites who are insulated from the real world situation who will gladly drive their limos right over middle class whites to get to their walled-off enclaves and who promote non-white labor over white labor because it is cheaper and thus helps the big corporations make more money. These are individuals such as Jack Kemp, who use code words about the barrios to disrespect whites and encourage non-whites.
All over California --- particularly on college campuses --- Latino students are pushing the "Aztlan" movement. This is the former Mexican name for California and parts of several surrounding states. These students are agitating for a new Aztlan. Some see this as a re-annexation of California in Mexico but others see it as a destruction of European culture and the English language and the imposition of Latino culture and Spanish. Both schools of thought hate whites and native English speakers and generally all European-descended Americans.
What is happening in California is that if you are white you are fair game both in politics and as targets of street crime. The real question is whether or not working and middle class whites will start seeing themselves as a distinct people and develop a higher consciousness of themselves and regain a sense of self and group worth, or whether they will just roll over the give up.
If there is a truth here, it is this: A cohesive surging population with a sense of unity and direction will always overpower a less cohesive population, even if it is a majority, if it lacks a sense of unity and direction.
Dornan today. Rohrabacher and Cox tomorrow. Next?
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2004-02-05 05:13 | User Profile
Ah, Faust! Well done! :thumbsup:
I almost forgot that oldie but goodie Millard wrote about Dornan going down in flames. My thanks.
2004-02-06 01:54 | User Profile
Hugh,
Wondering out loud dept.
From reading the e-mail from Sloan above I saw that he recommended to Rohrbacher that he go to Israel. In the past I have noticed that when talk radio hosts come back they invaribly start making all sorts of pro-zionist noises. They are almost like the characters one sees in a horror movie about zombies. If I were a science fiction fan I'd think that the Israelis drug these guys and preform frontal lobotomies on them, but I believe I know better. The carrot and the stick approach. If talk radio whore says anything bad about Israel they can count on being smeared with the "antisemite" label. On the other hand if they suck up and play ball they will get a pot full of shekels for their efforts.
2004-02-06 10:46 | User Profile
A minor correction; I think it's Sheldon H. Sloan, not Sheldon D. Sloan. Here's a photo of this reptilian creature:
[IMG]http://www.metnews.com/articles/SLOAN.jpg[/IMG]
[URL=http://www.metnews.com/articles/reminiscing061903.htm]http://www.metnews.com/articles/reminiscing061903.htm[/URL]
2004-02-06 15:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]I'd like to know if Sloan is a Jew or just a front man, but a halfway intelligent and informed voter can see the hand of A.I.P.A.C. behind this letter. The arrogance and threatening nature and the Israel First stand of Sloan speaks out for all to see.[/QUOTE]
Well, if his photo (see above) doesn't answer your question Sert, he's also a past president of the Guardians of the Jewish Homes for the Aging, so I think it's safe to say that he's a MOT. [url]http://www.lbbslaw.com/attorneybio.asp?AttyID=286[/url]
And you're absolutely right about the incredible arrogance of these thugs. Where is the America first crowd? Where's the outrage? OD might be one of the first places this is reported, but it had better not be the last. :angry:
2004-02-06 19:03 | User Profile
:lol: Recluse,
Oh, no! As the saying goes, one picture is worth a thousand words! With the snooze on that guy it is obvious to me that he is tribal. What do you suppose "Sloan's" real name is? Slivowitz, perhaps? I had a suspicion that "Sloan" was a Jew by the language he used in his insulting letters.
I wonder if there is a master list that has all these phony names with the real names so folks aren't fooled when there isn't a photo available.