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Thread ID: 12022 | Posts: 4 | Started: 2004-01-24
2004-01-24 20:57 | User Profile
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[SIZE=4]Reforming to preserve: An interview with Peter Brimelow
BC: What's your assessment of President Bush? Would you say that there is now a tremendous amount of ideological space between whom we refer to as conservatives and whom we refer to as Republicans?
PB: I think Bush's immigration proposal is treason and he should be impeached. I think the Iraq War is not particularly tailored to American interests. I think Bush has capitulated on affirmative action and government spending. Apart from that, he's OK, I guess. About the same as Howard Dean.
The American Conservative Movement is over, partly because it's become an auxiliary of the Republican Party. The whole story could be told in terms of the rise, fall and putrescence of National Review. But, hey, nothing grows to the sky. There will be a successor movement. Right now it's nascent.
BC: You are part of an editorial collective known as vdare.com and you've won yourself many readers due to your willingness to examine politically incorrect issues from which others run. Unfortunately, this has made you some enemies not only on the left but on the right as well. Tell me, where do you stand in the debate between neo-conservatives and paleo-conservatives? Here's something I just though of, could there be something of a class element behind this intra-conservative feud?
PB: Well, the real boneheads are the libertarians, distressing to me because I've written so much about markets as a financial journalist. I except the paleolibertarians, such as the Mises Institute, they do think about the metamarket, the cultural and other pre-requisites for successful markets.
I regard many of the neoconservatives as personal friends, but that's not stopped them and their satellites from behaving with extraordinary viciousness towards those of us who raised the immigration issue. They've made no attempt to debate the issue in good faith or in a collegial manner. Plus, of course, you have to draw some conclusion from the remarkable number of political firings of immigration critics -- Sam Francis, John O'Sullivan and myself at National Review, Scott McConnell. I don't know if that makes me a paleoconservative but it's certainly got my attention.
I'd have to think about your point about a class element. There's certainly a regional element -- paleoconservatives are not as metropolitan -- and of course an ethnic element.[/SIZE][/FONT]
2004-01-25 04:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=hqz]I'd have to think about your point about a class element. There's certainly a regional element -- paleoconservatives are not as metropolitan -- and of course an ethnic element.[/QUOTE]
"...and of course an ethnic element!"
Just a ballpark figure, how many of Our Fellow Citizens would grasp that point even if this interview were splattered on every newspaper in the country?
Bush knows what would get him impeached -- the same "ethnic element" that made sure his daddy got defeated in 1992. So he'll go right on keeping them happy and most Americans will go right on being stupid till the groceries run out.
2004-01-25 14:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ragnar]"...and of course an ethnic element!"
Just a ballpark figure, how many of Our Fellow Citizens would grasp that point even if this interview were splattered on every newspaper in the country? [/QUOTE]
10%. Max.
I almost fell over when I read "ethnic element."
Things will have to get much worse before the sheeple will notice the nebbisher wolf cross-dressing a Bo Peep.
The good news is that things are bound to get worse.
Sigh . . . .
Walter
2004-01-26 01:54 | User Profile
Brimelow is a complete stud. I list him as A-#1 on my list of intellectual role models. I'd pay $300 just to have him over for dinner, so he could talk freely about all he would say in private.
Vdare.com is the best sight on the web, IMO. And he'd certainly be my top choice to run for President. As for this topic, while whites may not be politically active on the issue of immigration, they sure are aware of it. I disagree with some on the board who claim we don't know. Just ask Californians, or any large city Suburbanite.
We do know. We just have no options. Seriously, that IS possible. In fact, I think it probable.
-Jay