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Thread ID: 11982 | Posts: 30 | Started: 2004-01-22
2004-01-22 16:05 | User Profile
As time progresses, we find out which public figures were Jews. Presidents, Prime Ministers, tycoons and tyrants.
First we found out about Lenin. Trotsky I guess was no secret. Then we read that Mao was of Jewish descent, according to an old article in McCalls or something. There is evidence that LBJ and FDR were marranos. Hitler had some Jewish blood we are told. Now it's coming out that Stalin was a Jew.
Has anyone seen an article or list on this, with references? We need to stay on top of this. I keep wondering if we are going to find out later on that there is Hebrew blood flowing in Bush family veins. I read that the Bush family helped finance Hitler and that the Jews financed Hitler. I wonder how much of this is BS.
Dubya gets enormous support from the Jews. Jews on right wing forums try to idolize him. He seems to be doing everything they want. He does have the nostrils of an Ashkenazi and his mother has that wicked look too, who knows. The Bush's showed up here in Texas not so long ago from the Northeast and now Bush is being painted a cowboy. Is he a marrano?
2004-01-22 17:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=travis]As time progresses, we find out which public figures were Jews. Presidents, Prime Ministers, tycoons and tyrants.
First we found out about Lenin. Trotsky I guess was no secret. Then we read that Mao was of Jewish descent, according to an old article in McCalls or something. There is evidence that LBJ and FDR were marranos. Hitler had some Jewish blood we are told. Now it's coming out that Stalin was a Jew.
Has anyone seen an article or list on this, with references? We need to stay on top of this. I keep wondering if we are going to find out later on that there is Hebrew blood flowing in Bush family veins. I read that the Bush family helped finance Hitler and that the Jews financed Hitler. I wonder how much of this is BS.
Dubya gets enormous support from the Jews. Jews on right wing forums try to idolize him. He seems to be doing everything they want. He does have the nostrils of an Ashkenazi and his mother has that wicked look too, who knows. The Bush's showed up here in Texas not so long ago from the Northeast and now Bush is being painted a cowboy. Is he a marrano?[/QUOTE]
Well,,,,,, as you know most americans came from Europe and 90% or "Jews" came from Europe, only thing is that those so called "Jews" are Khazars that converted to Judisem a few hundred years ago and therefore are not real Jews. To me the only real Jews are Semitic Jews, those who are from the Middle East and not from Europe. Semite Arabs and Semite Jews are the same people. Even the Semite Jews are against the Zionist Jews because they know that they are not real Jews.,,,,,, like someone said, get rid of 2% of the US population and 90% of our troubles will be gone.
2004-01-22 17:28 | User Profile
travis,
Didn't you get the memo?
Since 9/11, we're all jewish now.
2004-01-22 19:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=AntiYuppie]Actually, the official line (verbatim) is something along the lines, "Since 9/11, Israel's fight is now our fight."
As to the subject of this post, obvious drivel like "Ho Chi Minh and Mao Tse Tung were Jews" only makes our side look like idiots. That's one reason I never bothered posting at Stormfront after encountering asinine threads with titles like, "The Joos are fluoridating our water" and "Chinese communists are really all Joos."
Blatant stupidity like that only serves as effective propaganda for the Leftists and Jews themselves. They can point to threads like "Mao was a Joo" and say "see, I told you that those racists and anti-Semites were all lunatics and idiots," and rightwingers who might otherwise be sympathetic to our cause will be forced to agree with them.[/QUOTE]
This is why I like men like Yggdrasil who know that the Stormfronters are our future front line, and that they need and deserve direction and leadership from their elders. Holding your nose from the other side of cybertown ain't leadership. Nor are the endless VNNers-are-bad-boys threads seen here as embarrassing to Linder as they ought to be to the anti-lepers who wouldn't be seen dead offering their wisdom and balance to the young.
Kitty Genovese asks, ...whattaya mean 'be careful'?
2004-01-22 20:02 | User Profile
A.Y., Good point. We must be cautious about our image for if we don't they will have an easier time discrediting us. That aside, we must also realize that what is and what is not true is independent from what is marketable. I remember a few years ago when I was ignorant of these matters, David Duke stated that the hollow-cost never happened. I thought he was nuts.
Even today, when I tell people that the Jews are herding us into racial meltdown, they think I'm insane.
Since this is not a sheep forum we need not concern ourselves too much with the marketability of the ideas we exchange here. I just want to know the truth. I think it is quite possible that Mao was part Jew. They seem to have no qualms about using half-Jews for their agendas.
2004-02-17 15:44 | User Profile
[url]http://starbulletin.com/2004/02/16/news/story3.html[/url]
Genealogists call Bush and Kerry kin Big Isle researchers claim the president and his top opponent are distant cousins
By Matt Sedensky Associated Press Democratic presidential candidates are constantly being compared with the current commander in chief. Now, two Hawaii genealogy buffs say they have proof President Bush and the current Democratic front-runner share similarities thicker than water.
ASSOCIATED PRESS President Bush, left, and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., are also purportedly related to Walt Disney and Marilyn Monroe.
Bruce and Kristine Harrison, publishers of historical databases, traced back the family histories of Bush and Democratic Sen. John Kerry.
The result? They're cousins.
Well, 16th cousins, three times removed, to be exact. But cousins, nonetheless.
Truth be told, one might find such distant family ties between Bush and any of the four other major Democratic candidates.
The link between the president and the Rev. Al Sharpton might date back a bit further, Bruce Harrison said, but tracing ancestries helps illuminate a greater message on human interconnectedness, if not one on the centrification of the nation's politics.
2004-02-17 18:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Well, 16th cousins, three times removed, to be exact. But cousins, nonetheless[/QUOTE] In other words, the candidates' most recent common ancestors were 17 generations ago for one candidate and 20 generations ago for the other.
2004-02-17 19:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]In other words, the candidates' most recent common ancestors were 17 generations ago for one candidate and 20 generations ago for the other.[/QUOTE]
Their being related is not very significant, but if Bush is also part Jewish.......
He does have some Jewish features. Ears, convex nose and nostrils turned back. Bush has done just about as much as any president could do for the Jews without being rejected as a liberal.
2004-02-17 20:42 | User Profile
Is it even in our interest for Bush to be Jewish? How are you going to convince people that Jews are talented deceivers who've subverted western civilization... if he's a Jew? He's much better as a dumb goyim stooge.
2004-02-17 21:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ruffin]Is it even in our interest for Bush to be Jewish? How are you going to convince people that Jews are talented deceivers who've subverted western civilization... if he's a Jew? He's much better as a dumb goyim stooge.[/QUOTE]
I agree. But this is OD, not Town Park. We can discuss human events in ways that may not be expedient to discuss in public.
Jews are the worlds greatest actors. It would not suprize me if shrub was half-Jewish and had an IQ of 150.
I think many of our Presidents were part Jewish. Put yourself in Jews shoes. Isn't it better to have a president that's 1/8 Jewish than 100% gentile? Even if he's completely ignorant of organized Jewry's machinations, he'll easily be convinced of the benefit of not disclosing that aspect of his ancestry and will be in denial as he sorrounds himself with Jews.
2004-02-17 22:02 | User Profile
How about as a practical matter we make the definition of a "Jew" as someone who puts the interests of Israel and Jews above all else?
I realize that this will encompass tons of folks who've never been to a synagogue, don't know what a yarmulke is and whose closest brush with Jewishness is eating a Reuben down at the local deli, but time is short!
2004-02-17 22:12 | User Profile
I'm not keen on adjusting facts to be practical. We have the truth on our side most of the time and don't need to resort to disinfo tactics.
There is no getting around the fact that marranos do exist and could be anywhere in public office. I know this sounds paranoid but one man's paranoia is another man's vigilance. We can't completely trust anyone.
2004-02-18 05:48 | User Profile
I've yet to see any definitive proof that Stalin was Jewish. I asked the Barnes Review and they said he wasn't. That he hated Jews but used them. I'd be interested if someone actually did some research on the topic rather than just posted rumors. The idea that only Jews do bad things is over-simplifying the issue.
2004-02-18 06:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=yummybear]I've yet to see any definitive proof that Stalin was Jewish. I asked the Barnes Review and they said he wasn't. That he hated Jews but used them. I'd be interested if someone actually did some research on the topic rather than just posted rumors. The idea that only Jews do bad things is over-simplifying the issue.[/QUOTE]
Don't know that I'd rely on TBR if they think Stalin hated Jews. For one thing he was married to one sister of Kaganovich. For another thing, I'm surprised to hear revisionists enforcing the stupid idea that governmental policies - even his - are based on anything but calculation. Emotions are what us chumps are supposed to operate on.
Whether it matters or not, I don't have any problem believing Stalin was a Jew. He was a leading bolshevik revolutionary from an area with a large Jewish population. The stories about him studying for the priesthood make me laugh.
Stalin, the priest: :lol: [img]http://home.att.net/~kimmel_a/jack_barbara/stalines.jpg[/img]
2004-02-18 11:41 | User Profile
From Edgar J. Steele Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004
"Here's another one the Jews don't want talked about. In the Georgian language "shvili" means son of, or son, as in Johnson. "Djuga" means Jew. Therefore Djugashvili means Jewison. So Joe Stalin's real name, before he changed it, was Joe Jewison. It gets better, his name was Joseph David Djugashvili, a typical Jewish name. During his revolutionary days he changed his name to "Kochba", the leader of the Jews during one of the anti-Roman uprisings of the Jews. Russians don't change their names. Georgians don't change their names. Jews change their names. Reporting these facts probably is a hate crime because Jews hate to hear about it."
Joe Stalin only became a Georgian Orthodox priest to mask his Jewish background.
2004-02-18 16:08 | User Profile
I don't know how many times I've seen the canard that Hitler was Jewish.
The story goes something like this:
Hitler's grandmother had worked in the town of Graz as a servant in the home of a Jewish family named Frankenberger. She was seduced by the head of the household and that Hitler's grandfather was the result of that liaison.
However, there's NO evidence whatsoever that there was a Jewish family named Frankenberger ever living in Graz. What is more, Jews had been driven out of Graz in the 15th century and had not been allowed to return until 1856, nearly twenty years after Hitler's grandfather had been born.
As to the Chinese communist revolution and Jews, I remember reading something about Jews supporting Chinese communists. If someone can find info on this, please post it.
2004-02-19 12:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=friedrich braun]
As to the Chinese communist revolution and Jews, I remember reading something about Jews supporting Chinese communists. If someone can find info on this, please post it.[/QUOTE]
On a strategic level, we know the Jews have got Asia under control somehow, or for some reason are not even worried about them. I would be curious to know exactly what their strategy is over there. It seems rather obvious that they are demonizing North Korea, what's up wit dat? Any good links on these topics would be appreciated.
2004-02-19 13:41 | User Profile
Travis, your nuts. You really need to sit down and do some serious reading or good old fasioned research rather than trawling the net cutting and pasting nonsense from ignorant yokels.
Stalin's name doesn't have anything to do with meaning Jewish, as anyone who's ever lifted a finger researching knows.
You really need something positive in your life, rather than creating a fantasy world populated by your creations for you to spend all day hating.
Braun is right about Hilter. Maria was an unwed mother, that's about all we know, and there's no documentary evidence of a Jew called Frankenfurter living in the area at the time.
There still is a chance to find out, though, Alois has relatives still living in the US, I think two men and a woman, who've vowed never to get married.
I will be money that some interprising journalist has followed them around to get DNA samples, from their trashcans or whatever. Or perhaps government agencies, and I'll bet the DNA tests are already completed, but due to privacy, we probably wont know for sure until they are all dead.
2004-02-19 13:51 | User Profile
O.C.,
Your ad hominem tactics are so typical of the Jews and philo-semites I encounter on forums everyday. If you have facts on your side, there is no reason for such behavior.
2004-02-19 15:03 | User Profile
I accept the challenge. What is your proof, specifically proof that you personally find credible after study, that Stalin was Jewish?
2004-02-19 15:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE=travis]O.C.,
Your ad hominem tactics are so typical of the Jews and philo-semites I encounter on forums everyday. If you have facts on your side, there is no reason for such behavior.[/QUOTE]
I'll second the above.
As to the alleged Alois's relatives melodramatically vowing to harassing Jewish media not to have off-springs, I'll take it for the asinine hype that it obviously is.
I wish that these people (if they're truly related to AH) would be left alone by Jewish media vultures.
2004-02-19 15:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Oliver Cromwell]I accept the challenge. What is your proof, specifically proof that you personally find credible after study, that Stalin was Jewish?[/QUOTE]
Are you trying to put words in my mouth? I did not assert that I was certain the Stalin piece from Steele I posted was fact nor was I challenging you to a debate about it. I was only denouncing your Jew-tactics. If you are certain that Stalin was not a Jew, I would welcome reading your perspective on it, as long as you don't find it necessary to use ad hominem.
Ruffin, BTW, that "Stalin the Priest" photo says JEW! all over it. Where did it come from? It almost looks like someone retouched it to make him look more Jewish.
2004-02-19 20:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE]If you are certain that Stalin was not a Jew, I would welcome reading your perspective on it, as long as you don't find it necessary to use ad hominem.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps your command of our language? How would you term your attitude towards Jews? You are a hateful person who sees the Jews as the root of all evil. My statement isn't ad hominem, because it addresses the point.
2004-02-19 22:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Oliver Cromwell]Perhaps your command of our language? How would you term your attitude towards Jews? You are a hateful person who sees the Jews as the root of all evil. My statement isn't ad hominem, because it addresses the point.[/QUOTE]
Apparently you don't understand universal debate protcols. If two people are discussing a topic and one starts attacking the other, it's ad hominem, regardless if he thinks the attack is the point. Jews are the topic, not travis. Making travis the topic is an hominem.
I don't look at the Jewish question in terms of good/evil or "hate", I look at it in terms of strategy and motive. They are at the root of most of our problems.
2004-02-20 00:26 | User Profile
Debate protocols? You mean statements like "The Jooooos are the root of most of the worlds problems" ? You call that debate?
You really need to get a hobby. You are so eaten up with hate that you are a danger to yourself, and besides, you make right-wing anti-neocons like me look bad just because you are fighting some of the same people as myself. You are one big, fat, liability.
And P.S., don't accuse me of using "Jew methods" and run whining into a corner. Fight like a man. Start with your statement that Jews are the root of most of the world's problems.
2004-02-20 00:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Oliver Cromwell]Debate protocols? You mean statements like "The Jooooos are the root of most of the worlds problems" ? You call that debate? Debate methods and debate content are two different things.>
You really need to get a hobby. You are so eaten up with hate that you are a danger to yourself, and besides, you make right-wing anti-neocons like me look bad just because you are fighting some of the same people as myself. You are one big, fat, liability.
And P.S., don't accuse me of using "Jew methods" and run whining into a corner. Fight like a man. Start with your statement that Jews are the root of most of the world's problems.[/QUOTE] What the heck is your problem, anyway? Why all the personal attacks? If you disagree with my assertions simply refute them. There is nothing to gain by flaming.
2004-02-20 02:06 | User Profile
I'll try one more time. We are in a fight for our country. People who say things like "The Jews are the root of most of the world's problems" don't help our cause.
2004-02-20 02:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Oliver Cromwell]I'll try one more time. We are in a fight for our country. People who say things like "The Jews are the root of most of the world's problems" don't help our cause.[/QUOTE] Do you mean people who say this on OD or people who go around in everyday lives making this statement?
Whether it's strategically good to make that statement and whether or not it's true are seperate issues, I'm not sure of your position.
2004-02-20 03:57 | User Profile
Not for nothin .. how do you or anyone else know you don't have true Israeli/Hebrew/Jewish blood coursing through your veins ? Fact of history : all records and I mean ALL records not based on verbal were destroyed when Jerusalem was DESTROYED in 70 A.D. The Ashkenazi Jews, The so-called semites, none of them can any more prove direct HEBREW lineage. Hebrew is more encompassing than Jew. The " lost " ( as in travelled away in location and faith ) 10 tribes of ANCIENT Israel there are no records, other than the fact that it happenned. Therefore, Lincoln Rockwell could have some of the Tribe of Dan in him. Why is this relevant ? The only reason why contemporaries such as in OD think its relevant is because non-Christian Jews wield what is now awesome power in our society. They did so to a lesser degree in Weimar Germany, which brought rise to Hitler's Third Reich. You know, when history is closer to home, when people's parents and grandparents remember being there, it makes it more real. We have a tendency to abstract ourselves from history that happenned say in 1492, when Columbus was set to launch his ships for Asia and hit the Western Hemisphere instead, because the thousands of Jews were being shipped out of Spain. To be Jewish, which is only a subset of the Israelites, is to be a minority. TO continue to be Jewish after the rise of Christianity was to be part of an underwheel. That underwheel is seeding now in who calls themselves Jewish today. Because they cannot prove their lineage to the tribe of Judah or Benjamin anymore than a scientist can prove humans evolved from apes. A totally self-supporting, self-constructing and self-promoting phenomena of lies and assumptions. Sad.
2004-02-20 05:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=travis]From Edgar J. Steele Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004
"Here's another one the Jews don't want talked about. In the Georgian language "shvili" means son of, or son, as in Johnson. "Djuga" means Jew. Therefore Djugashvili means Jewison. So Joe Stalin's real name, before he changed it, was Joe Jewison. It gets better, his name was Joseph David Djugashvili, a typical Jewish name. During his revolutionary days he changed his name to "Kochba", the leader of the Jews during one of the anti-Roman uprisings of the Jews. Russians don't change their names. Georgians don't change their names. Jews change their names. Reporting these facts probably is a hate crime because Jews hate to hear about it."
Joe Stalin only became a Georgian Orthodox priest to mask his Jewish background.[/QUOTE]
I think Steele got this from someone on a different forum because I've seen it posted there but by a different person. I'm not saying it's in error. It's just that I've asked several different people who are experts in this area and they say he was not Jewish. I'm still waiting for definitive proof. Does anyone speak Georgian or know someone who does who can accurately translate Stalin's real name?