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2004-01-15 17:11 | User Profile
[url]http://www.ukar.org/chrc/cjc01.html[/url]
CANADIAN
HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION
Intake Services
File no. 20031527 NOV 27 2003
PROTECTED PRIORITY POST - SIGNATUR REQUIRED
Mr. Lubomyr Prytulak 4165 West 11th Avenue Vancouver, BC V6R 2L5
Dear Mr. Prytulak:
The Canadian Human Rights Commission has received a complaint from Len Rudner alleging that your website (the Ukrainian Archive) is discriminating against persons or groups of persons because of religion and national or ethnic origin by communicating messages to Internet newsgroups which would likely expose individuals who are of the Jewish faith, and segments of the Jewish faith identified by their national or ethnic origin to hatred and/or contempt contrary to section 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act.
Under Part III of the Canadian Human Right Act, the Commission is required to address any complaint that alleges a violation of the Act. Ms. Hannya Rizk is the investigator designated to gather the evidence in relation to the complainant's allegations and, once the investigation is complete, to report on the findings to the Members of the Commission. You can reach her at (613) 943-9061 or by fax at (613) 947-7279.
The report to the Commission will include a recommendation for the disposition of the complaint. The investigator can recommend that a conciliator or a Human Rights Tribunal be appointed, if the evidence supports the allegations in the complaint, or that the complaint be dismissed, if the allegations are not supported by the evidence. The investigator can also recommend to the Commission that a settlement be approved if the parties reach an agreement during the course of the investigation.
At this time, I would appreciate receiving by December 23, 2003 your position regarding the allegations including, but not limited to, the following:
Do you own and/or control the Ukrainian Archive website? If not, who own's and/or controls this website? What is the Ukrainian Archive website's present Internet address (URL)?
What is the purpose of the Ukrainian Archive website?
What is the intent of the information/documentation posted on the website?
Who is responsible for editing and/or posting the content of the information/documentation on the website?
How are the documents being posted on the Ukrainian Archive website?
Who is your present Internet Service Provider (ISP)? Where is it located? Please provide a copy of the ISP's arrangement. Please provide a copy of the agreement with ISP.
If someone other than yourself will be representing your organisation in this matter, please let us know at your earliest opportunity. Also, please be advised that you are required to preserve any material related to the complaint, including information in electronic formats, until the final disposition of the matter.
Yours sincerely,
[S. Best signature]
Suzanne Best A/Manager
Att.
c.c. Mr. Len Rudner
CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION
COMPLAINT SUMMARY
FILE NUMBER 2003 1527
DATE COMPLAINT RECEIVED November 7, 2003
NAME OF COMPLAINANT Len Rudner
NAME AND ADDRESS OF RESPONDENT Lubomyr Prytulak 4165 West 11th Avenue Vancouver, BC V6R 2L5
DATE OF ALLEGED CONDUCT Ongoing ADDRESS WHERE INCIDENT OCCURRED (if different from the above)
RELEVANT PROHIBITED GROUNDS Race, religion and national or ethnic origin
APPLICABLE SECTIONS OF THE CHRA 13 PRACTICES (e.g., termination of employment, harassment, etc.) Hate messaging
COMPLAINT FORM
YOUR NAME NAME OF ORGANIZATION OR INDIVIDUAL YOUR COMPLAINT IS AGAINST
Len Rudner Lubomyr Prytulak
I have reasonable grounds for believing that I have been discriminated against
* in employment
* in the provision of services
contrary to section(s) _13___of the Canadian Human Rights Act. I declare that the following information is true to the best of my knowledge.
[Len Rudner left the area provided here blank because he supplied the requested "information" in the four pages attached.]
I consent to the release to the Canadian Human Rights Commission of all information and documents concerning me that the Commission considers necessary for its investigation, such as personnel records, documents, data, medical or hospital records which relate to the complaint. I also authorize the Commission to have such information examined by any person it retains to provide advice and assistance in dealing with my complaint.
Signature: [Len Rudner signature] Date: November 6, 2003
CANADIAN JEWISH CONGRESS ð CONGRÃËS JUIF CANADIEN
ONTARIO REGION
4600 Bathurst Street, Toronto, Ontario M2R 3V2 Phone: (416) 635-2883 Fax: (416) 635-1408
Chair PROF. ED MORGAN [email]ed.morgan@utoronto.ca[/email]
Vice-chairs IGOR ELLYN ESTA POMOTOV PAUL WALMAN-Kitchener
Secretary ESTHER BEM
Treasurer STAN SEGAL
Legal Counsel JOEL RICHLER
Officers-at-Large Toronto DR. FRANK BIALYSTOK OSSY GOLDENBERG RABBI JOHN MOSCOWITZ DR. RICHARD MORRIS NANETTE ROSEN DAVID ROSENBERG HERSHEL SAHIAN MICHAEL SERRUYA STEVEN SHULMAN DR. ELAINE TODRES DR. RACHAEL TURKIENICZ LARRY ZEIFMAN
Guelph DR. MICHAEL GRAND
Hamilton HARVEY WAXMAN
Kingston TOBY ABRAMSKY
London BERNIE ZAIFMAN
St. Catherines
Windsor TED HOCHBERG
Honourary Officers MAURICE BENZACAR DR. NAIM DALLAL RABBI BARUCH FRYDMAN-KOHL MILTON HARRIS RABBI JOSEPH KELMAN MIRA KOSCHITZKY LARRY NATHANSON RABBI W.G. PLAUT DAVID ROTENBERG GORDON STRAUSS RABBI MOSHE SHULMAN ROSE WOLFE
Chair RJCO RICHARD KIZELL
Student Representative
National Honourary President IRVING ABELLA
National President KEITH M. LANDY
National Vice-President HAROLD BRIEF
National Treasurer CARY GREEN
National Honourary Counsel BENJAMIN ZARNETT
National Officers ELLEN T. COLE DAVID ENGEL (UJAFED) GENYA INTRATOR
Chair Board of Governors MOSHE RONEN
UJA Federation Chair of the Board LESLIE GALES
National Executive Vice President and General Counsel M. JACK SILVERSTONE
Human Rights Complaint against Internet web-site The "Ukrainian Archive" ([url]http://www.ukar.org[/url])
Owner:
Lubomyr Prytulak 4165 West 11th Avenue, Vancouver, BC V6R 2L5
Complainant:
Len Rudner Director of Community Relations Canadian Jewish Congress Ontario Region.
November 6, 2003
[Len Rudner signature]
Executive Director
BERNIE M. FARBER
[email]bfarber@on.cjc.ca[/email]
Supported and funded by Federations and Combined Jewish Appeals across Canada
The Canadian Human Rights Act
The "Ukrainian Archive" web-site contains material that is likely to expose members of the Jewish community to hatred or contempt by reason of their membership in an identifiable group, per section 2 of the Canadian Human Rights Act (the "Act"). Specifically, the "Ukrainian Archive" web-site is in violation of section 13(1) of the Act. Our complaint contends that Lubomyr Prytulak and the "Ukrainian Archive" has committed at least four separate violations of section 13 of the Act:
He provides links through his web-site to antisemitic web-sites
The Kosher Tax
The "thesis" of the "Kosher Tax" section of the web-site is that Jews have secretly imposed a tax on gentile consumers in order to raise funds to "finance anti-Ukrainian calumny." The negative perception of this so-called tax is made clear in Prytulak's own words (emphasis added):
"What we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there metasticized [sic] to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter medications." @
In various places in this section, the "kosher tax" is referred to as "Jewish taxation without Gentile representation" @ and the cumulative effective of this tax is "paying for the bullet with which you are executed." @
"Why is this matter being broached on the Ukrainian Archive? Simply because it has been documented on the Ukrainian Archive that inciting fear and hatred of Ukrainians is an integral part of Jewish culture. The question becomes germane then of whether this incitement is financed at least in part, by a hidden Jewish tax on all Canadians...." @
Prytulak states that he does not deny the Jewish Holocaust, as it is a historical fact that the Nazis killed the Jews. But stating this is in no way an affirmation of the historical veracity of the Holocaust, which was the deliberate, state-sponsored attempt by the Nazis to exterminate the Jewish people. All Holocaust deniers concede that the Nazis hated the Jews and that some Jews died, though the numbers they will concede are generally
[Len Rudner signature]
reduced by a significant magnitude, and the centrality of the genocide to Nazi policy is ignored. In this "tradition", Prytulak denies the scope of the murder, both in numerical and geographical terms. As he puts it:
"my experience pushes me toward the conclusion that the real and tragic history of the Jewish Holocaust has been hijacked by Holocaust fabulists who have perverted it beyond recognition." @
Cruelty
Mr. Prytulak states, without proof, that Kosher ritual slaughter is cruel and inhumane. He relies on insinuation to make this claim. This insult is especially grievous, given the many prohibitions that rabbinical authorities have set down through the centuries to ensure that animals are treated humanely and with compassion. Prytulak's "conclusion" is presented below:
"In view of the evidence that gratuitous and avoidable cruelty continues to be associated with Jewish ritual slaughter, then it is indeed reasonable to expect that the non-Jewish public would avoid meat identified as kosher, and conceivable even that if more Jews became aware of what their own representatives were doing in the slaughterhouse, that Jews themselves would begin avoiding ritually-slaughtered meat." @
Disloyalty
Prytulak places himself in the company of men such as Ernst Zundel, who continuously put forth that it is a strategy of the Jews to malign German culture. Prytulak believes that the Jews have engaged in a deliberate and prolonged policy of "plundering" the Ukraine. Israel and the Jews are represented as plunderers of the Ukraine, slandering the Ukraine with false charges of antisemitism. This motif of Jewish "calumniators" (his term) repeats itself throughout the web-site. [The string "Zundel" never appears on the UKAR web site.]
"Why is this matter being broached on the Ukrainian Archive? Simply because it has been documented on the Ukrainian Archive that inciting fear and hatred of Ukrainians is an integral part of Jewish culture."[TAB 2] @
"... A topic not touched upon in Patrick Martin's article, but which I broach here in order to provide a context in which to read his article is that another way of encouraging Jews to immigrate [sic] from Russia and Ukraine, as well as of discouraging them from going back, is to incite and exaggerate Slavic anti-Semitism [sic]. In this way can be explained a number of Jewish actions that otherwise appear to be gratuitous, and yet mysteriously and inexplicably concerted." @
[Len Rudner signature]
Dishonesty/Slander
Prytulak advances his argument against those individuals, all Jews, who engage in "calumny against Poland". @
"The gang of ten is Jewish. One notices immediately that all ten of these "calumniators" of the Slavs are Jewish." @
"The really egregious calumniation only comes from Jews." @ ["comes only from Jews" was in the original]
"It is not for me to justify why Jews appear so frequently on the pages of the Ukrainian Archive, it is for Jews to explain why no Gentiles can be found whose anti-Slavic calumnies are able to compete with those of the Jews in the gang of ten (or with those in the CBS gang of seven)." @
"why should it be the case that the leading slanderers of the Ukrainians are all Jewish. How can it be that Jewish leaders are so prone to lying and have such palpable intellectual shortcomings, and sometimes even remarkable character defects?" @
The "Ukrainian Archive" provides links to more than 100 web-sites on a variety of topics. For the purpose of this complaint, we draw attention to two specific categories: Historical Revisionism (i.e. Holocaust denial) and the Middle East. While Prytulak maintains that the "listing of a web-sit...does not necessarily indicate "Ukrainian Archive" agreement with its contents..." it is our contention that these listings are a precise match to the themes that compose the narrative of his web-site.
a. Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust b. Institute for Historical Review c. Association des Anciens Amateurs de Recits de Guerre at d'Holocaust [L'Association des Anciens Amateurs de Récits de Guerre et d'Holocauste is the correct citation] d. Campaign for Radical Truth in History e. Radio Islam f. Blacks and Jews g. La Voz de Aztlan h. Jewish Tribal Review @
Remedy Sought
The information provided in this document is not intended to be an exhaustive analysis of the "Ukrainian Archive". Rather, our intention is to provide sufficient information to initiate a formal human rights complaint. It is our contention that the antisemitism expressed by Lubomyr Prytulak runs through every element of the "Ukrainian Archive" web-site. We seek the removal of this web-site from the Internet in accordance with sections 13(1) and 13(2) of the Canadian Human Rights Act.
[Len Rudner signature]
2004-01-15 17:49 | User Profile
Par for the course for Canada. This sounds like a good item for the Freedom Site and Paul Fromm.
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2004-01-15 18:10 | User Profile
If it's hosted outside of Canada and the operator lives outside of Canada he should reply with a terse: "Piss off--you have no jurisdiction in this matter"
EDIT: shit, I spoke too soon....apparently the site is hosted by a US hoting company but his contact information is in Canada.
Registrant: Ukrainian Archive (UKAR-DOM) 4165 West 11th Avenue Vancouver, BC V6R 2L5 CA
Domain Name: UKAR.ORG
Administrative Contact: Prytulak, Lubomyr (LP2253) [email]lubomyr@ROGERS.WAVE.CA[/email] Ukrainian Archive 4165 West 11th Avenue Vancouver, BC V6R 2L5 CAN (604) 228-1561 fax: 999 999 9999
Technical Contact: Hostmaster, TABNet (TH941) [email]VerioHostmaster@VERIO.NET[/email] 5 Financial Plaza Napa, CA 94558 US 707 256-1999 fax: 707 256-1997
Record expires on 10-Jan-2006. Record created on 09-Oct-2002. Database last updated on 15-Jan-2004 13:13:19 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.IPOWERWEB.NET 64.70.61.130 NS2.IPOWERWEB.NET 12.129.206.200
2004-01-15 18:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]If it's hosted outside of Canada and the operator lives outside of Canada he should reply with a terse: "Piss off--you have no jurisdiction in this matter"
EDIT: shit, I spoke too soon....apparently the site is hosted by a US hoting company but his contact information is in Canada.
Apparently this item is the first one on the "Human Rights Commission" (aka Canadian Political Kommissariat) list.
Mr. Lubomyr Prytulak 4165 West 11th Avenue Vancouver, BC V6R 2L5
Dear Mr. Prytulak:....................
At this time, I would appreciate receiving by December 23, 2003 your position regarding the allegations including, but not limited to, the following:
2004-01-15 18:22 | User Profile
After the Zundel saga you'd think Canadians wishing to host politically sensitive sites would have the savvy to get and use a US contact address.
2004-01-15 18:37 | User Profile
See my comment on this thread
[url=http://forums.originaldissent.com/showthread.php?p=70648#post70648]Odd Message From My ISP.... [/url]
2004-01-17 17:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian][url]http://www.ukar.org/chrc/cjc01.html[/url]
CANADIAN
HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION
Do you own and/or control the Ukrainian Archive website? If not, who own's and/or controls this website? What is the Ukrainian Archive website's present Internet address (URL)?
What is the purpose of the Ukrainian Archive website?
What is the intent of the information/documentation posted on the website?
Who is responsible for editing and/or posting the content of the information/documentation on the website?
How are the documents being posted on the Ukrainian Archive website?
Who is your present Internet Service Provider (ISP)? Where is it located? Please provide a copy of the ISP's arrangement. Please provide a copy of the agreement with ISP. [Len Rudner signature][/QUOTE] In the local paper there appeared an article attempting to redress the dismal knowledge of the Ukrainian famine, but with a rebuttal of sorts from a Swarthmore professor named Weinberg.
[I][B]Delaware County Daily Times[/B][/I] [url]http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10525148&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18171&rfi=8[/url] [B]Genocide or famine[/B]
[QUOTE]Swarthmore College history professor Bob Weinberg, who specializes in 20th century Russian history, said he doesnââ¬â¢t believe the Ukrainian famine was genocide as much as "a disastrous combination of government policies and bad weather."
"Itââ¬â¢s a political hot potato. There was a massive famine in 1932 and 1933, not just in the Ukraine, but in the whole Soviet Union," said Weinberg.
But unlike the rest of the Soviet Union, the Ukraineââ¬â¢s borders were blocked by Stalinââ¬â¢s forces.
"Everybody suffered. Everywhere there was hunger, but it happened to be worse in the Ukraine because they closed the borders and made it hard for peasants to leave and food to get in," said Weinberg.
Throughout the Soviet Union, the peasantsââ¬â¢ land was consolidated into large farms and they were told to work as a collective group. The government did not provide enough large tractors for everyone to farm the land, noted Weinberg.
Many Ukrainians resisted collective farming. They were arrested and deported to labor camps known as gulags in Siberia and other northern regions. The Soviet government then imposed a very harsh grain tax.
"They demanded the peasants hand over the grain and there was very little left for the peasants. That antagonized and alienated the peasants and they became weaker. The able-bodied men were arrested," said Weinberg.
The grain was used to feed workers in the city or was exported to the west to aid industrialization, said Weinberg.
"There was little for peasants to consume and not enough for the next yearââ¬â¢s planting," he noted.
Visitors were not allowed into the Ukraine and Soviet government officials suppressed news reports of the famine, said Weinberg. They did not ask the United States or other countries for help as they had during a famine in the early 1920s.[/QUOTE] Fortunately there was somebody alert to counter this deceit. [B]Opinion:[/B] [I]More about the Ukrainian famine [/I] - Richard Earley has written a book on how Americans cannot remember war and other mass killings accurately or honestly
[url]http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10692634&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18171&rfi=8[/url]
Detailing the calumny of Weinberg was not difficult, but getting the paper to print it was somewhat hard. Many years previous a Philadelphia [I]Inquirer [/I] reviewer wrote the following swill (from my book): [QUOTE]A reporter for the Philadelphia [I]Inquirer[/I], a Mr. David Preston, reviewed a book [I][B]A Season for Healing: Reflections on the Holocaust[/B][/I]. Inside the review Mr. Preston decried the World Congress of Free Ukrainians for flooding the nation's newsrooms with "slick folders about a [I]'Forgotten Holocaust'[/I]", Stalin's forced famine of the years of 1932 through 1933 in which millions of Ukrainians died. Mr. Preston accused the Ukrainians of misappropriating the word "Holocaust" - while citing Webster's Dictionary as the authority for limiting the usage of the word solely to the systematic destruction of Jews before and during World War II. Ukrainians were accused by the American reporter of choosing provocation over education. The folders detailed the brutal murder of the Ukrainians by the Soviet Commissars and their minions. In no way could the folders be described as "slick", but what they did do was document a butchery so vast and complete the American press has a deep primal need to discredit and belittle any who believe the crimes which the American press did not cover continue to have significance.
Perhaps, a sign that memory may be changing about the famine in the Ukraine was a review of a movie, [I][B]Famine-33[/B][/I], in December 1993 on the same day an article about [I][B]Schindler's List [/B] [/I] appeared in the New York Times. The film shot in Ukraine brought the surprising admission by the film reviewer of the New York Times that the communist created famine killed 7 million people, a number greater than the once sacrosanct figure of 6 million which was once reserved exclusively for Jews and was to represent the ultimate degradation of man in the twentieth century. Reasons given for the mass starvation were seizure of food, principally grains to be sold abroad, to pay for the cost of industrialization. A more subtle insidious aim of this brutal policy was forcing independent farmers to work in collectives. Technically, the movie was thought quite crude with filming in grimy black and white and dialogue described as nothing more than spoken captions.[/QUOTE]Outside forums such as this enlightened one getting one's opinions and facts aired is extremely difficult.