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Thread ID: 11839 | Posts: 4 | Started: 2004-01-11
2004-01-11 02:38 | User Profile
[Ridiculous Jewish garbage. This lying rabbi claims the NT is a forgery because of its anti-Jewish comments. He apparently doesn't know his own Talmud (not likely), since it agrees that the Jews were reponsible for Christ's death.]
The Gospel Untruth (Gospel of Matthew is a "Cheap Forgery")
"The argument that the Jews, rather than the Romans, killed Jesus, rests on one central, absurd premise, namely that Pontius Pilate tried to save Jesus's life but the Jews demanded that he be executed."
[url]http://www.seethepassion.com/article.php?id=85[/url]
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2004-01-11 04:41 | User Profile
I just tried to read it. It's a bit convoluted, eh?
A couple of points spring to mind:
Why do people say "a forgery" when they mean "a fiction"? There is a huge difference. It's ridiculous when Jews say the Protocols are a forgery; it implies there are genuine plans for Jewish World Domination but the Protocols are a distressing hack-job substitute.
This is the other point, from the article:
[QUOTE]...unlike many Christians, Jews do not believe that the Egyptians as a people were cursed by God forever for their ill treatment of the chosen people. Nor have the Jews accused the Egyptians of having enslaved them due to an innately evil character. On the contrary, the main villain of the story is Pharaoh...[/QUOTE]
Does the writer believe this? His knowledge of his fellow-Jews is minimal if he does. Besides which, the Jews' historic animosity toward Egypt has now been transferred to Germany. Daniel Goldhagen's writings indicate that Jews both believe Germany to be "cursed by God forever" and that Germans have an "innately evil character."
I mean why write something this obviously goofy? The "chosen people" hate anyone who abuses them and they drag "God" in on it. It's a human trait and it's also clear to everyone on earth who knows of it. Why pretend otherwise?
2004-01-11 09:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ragnar]
Does the writer believe this? His knowledge of his fellow-Jews is minimal if he does. Besides which, the Jews' historic animosity toward Egypt has now been transferred to Germany. Daniel Goldhagen's writings indicate that Jews both believe Germany to be "cursed by God forever" and that Germans have an "innately evil character." [/QUOTE]
I refuse to accept that he actually believes what he claims. If a regular Jew wrote it, well maybe, but definitely not a rabbi. He knows the Talmud's account of Christ's death and that it largely agrees on the central point of Jewish responsibility.
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2004-01-11 12:47 | User Profile
I have had a crawful of these self appointed procurers of "wisdom"..
It is okay for them to blatantly promote THEIR hate speech, and their "superior race" status(under the deluded but ostensibley self promoting name of "chosen people") and no one bats an eyelash.
I think i will write to this self apointed one and tell him to, "BITE ME". (i know that is juvenile, but tit for tat)..
And while i am at it i am thinking of telling him what a racist, hate filled, satan worshipping pile of pedophilia promoting trash his beloved Talmud is.....written by jews who molest goats..(according to the Talmud, bestiality is allowed, i can quote the sections if you want, in fact there is an online copy of Talmud available at a website called "Come and Listen")
I apologize for the rant..these people have taken over our country with their idiotic hypocritical arguments and i have had about as much of it as i can take..
By the way, i HAVE seen the latest trend in judeo-"christianity", it is a "return to jewish roots"..i am telling you that i can see the writing on the wall. (if you want i can put up some sites that i have read that illustrate the trend)
The entire AGENDA of the new movement is the denial of Christ's divinity.
It must be well co-ordinated because they have the Liberal side..that gets into esoterica and kabbalah (try running search on "Mystic Nazirene", also "Ebionite") and claims to be restoring the "original church".. and the ultra-conservative side that also claims to be restoring the "original church" , and is very non-mystical, literal iterpreting and legalistic, insisting that ALL the jewish law except the sacrifices MUST be followed.(on search engine can look up "Torah of Messiah", or "Bet Emet")
Both wings of this movement agree that the early church was strictly jewish believers with jewish customs, and that to be pleasing to God one must be torah observant...BOTH GROUPS INSIST THAT JESUS WAS A HUMAN MESSIAH AND NOT DIVINE.
In fact under Noachide Law(on search engine, please look up Public Law 102-14) , worshipping Jesus would be considered "idolatry", and "blasphemy" and the penalty is BEHEADING... Rev 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. "
Personally i pray that i am wrong, but i think this is THE BIG One-the final trend of judeo_"christianity"...that will usher in the antichrist..Be alert and watchful.
Think back to many of the latest "specials" like the one a about the Holy Grail run on network TV where they show (without giving credence to...but planting the idea in people's minds) that there are legends that Mary Magdalene (Lord forgive me) had Jesus' children and these are living grails that founded the Merovingian dynasty...think back to sensationalized books that came out in the 80's like "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" by Baigent et al..Think back to many of the popular horror movies of late decades with religious themes that pormote the idea of the 'messiah' being born on the planet again in the flesh..'according to prophecy'..
And tell me if you can recognize the trend..it is there i am telling you, if you know where to look. Media is being used to plant the idea in people's heads..the time is coming for them to usher in their 'Mossiach' ben Satan. (and i could be wrong...and that would be a good thing)