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heritagelost [OP]

2004-01-02 15:38 | User Profile

Many chains in Ohio are biting the dust and blaming Walmart.

In Columbus, Ohio dozens of K-marts have closed (there are few left but probably not for long) 44 Big Bear Grocery stores are closing their doors in a month. Several Kids R' Us stores are closing their doors for ever.

K-mart and Kids R' Us are explicitly blaming Walmart. Big Bear was in a price war with Krogers, but everyone is blaming Walmart Supercenter as the real reason they busted.

I also saw an article that Hoover is moving to Mexico. They blamed Walmart for making cheap vacumes in China.


Happy Hacker

2004-01-02 17:37 | User Profile

K-Mart has only themselves to blame. When I have gone there looking for things they should provide, I left without finding what I wanted (e.g. a hamburger patty maker, in spite of three times the space for kitchen gadgets as WalMart). Their stores feel like morgues. And, their advertising seems designed to repulse men (Rosie O'Donald, Martha Stewart, Lavern).

What is Toys R Us complaining about? A bigger percentage of their goods come from China.

I don't know anything about Big Bear grocery stores. Food is a huge part of people's budgets. So, I never really did understand why inexpensive stores like Aldies and Food For Less failed to put much of a dent in the mainstream grocery chains. Aldies should have done to Big Bear what Walmart is doing.

Why shouldn't Hoover move to Mexico? Shipping goods across the boarder is "free" and they don't have to worry about racial shakedowns in Mexico. Why blame Walmart instead of the hostile climate in America?

Is Target closing any stores and blaming WalMart? Not that I know of.

Not to deny that WalMart hurts the competition. But... If Walmart behaved like Microsoft, they would prohibit Coke and Pepsi from doing business with competing grocery stores ("...else we'll double the price of your products that we sell.") If the government gave special protection to WalMart, like Microsoft enjoys, stores like Target would have to pay royalties to WalMart for using similar practices and strategies.

WalMart is a big success because they make the consumer happy. They are not anti-competative nor do they do things their competition does not.

I'm against protectionism, but I am also against giving foreign companies tax-free access to American markets while American companies have to pay taxes. But, leveling the playing field companies that produce goods will not make incompetently operated chains like K-Mart a success. And, protecting K-Mart will reward a bunch of fat twits at the expense of taxpayers and consumers.


heritagelost

2004-01-03 04:40 | User Profile

Martha Stewart is cool! She's the only thing I like about K-mart.

Rosie O'donald is revolting. Just seeing her picture makes me want to puke.

Your right about K-marts being morgues. Walmart and Meijers are always teeming mobs of morbidly obese, mexicans, blacks and immigrants with no customer service whatsoever and huge lines. Not to mention they sell absolute garbage.

K-mart is deserted with no customer service and only one cashier on duty so there is still a huge line. Not to mention the fact that they also sell garbage.

Everyone on here should join Sams Club. You will all be shocked at how much better Sams Club is than any of those stores. Sams Clubs sell quality high-end brand name products for the same prices that Walmart, K-mart, and Meijers sell useless defective garbage.

All the toiletries and groceries I buy at Sams' Club I'm saving anywhere between 25%-50% over what it cost at Krogers. Also, every day is free sample day at Sams Club! Every single time I go there is between 3-6 free sample tables.

The best part is, Sams Clubs has a HIGHER CLIENTEL. Compared to Walmart next door, Sams Club is dream to be in. Columbus has the countries largest Sams Club. It is smack dab between Meijers and Walmart. The Meijers and Walmarts are packed full of non-whites. Sams Club is no where close to as crowded and is mostly middle class white people shopping there.

Let me give you an example. Just today I bought a James Dean Lambskin jacket. They have been selling them for $100 for the past month and today had them on sale for $70.

Overstock.com is selling this same jacket for $136.0 plus shipping, and overstock.com is items in limited quantities and sizes being liquidated.

A department store like Lazarus or JCPennys would have easily charged 199.99 for this Jacket and sold many. Walmart, K-mart, or Meijers would not even think of selling a jacket this nice and would charge the same amount for a total piece of Garbage leather jacket.

[QUOTE=Happy Hacker]K-Mart has only themselves to blame. When I have gone there looking for things they should provide, I left without finding what I wanted (e.g. a hamburger patty maker, in spite of three times the space for kitchen gadgets as WalMart). Their stores feel like morgues. And, their advertising seems designed to repulse men (Rosie O'Donald, Martha Stewart, Lavern).

What is Toys R Us complaining about? A bigger percentage of their goods come from China.

I don't know anything about Big Bear grocery stores. Food is a huge part of people's budgets. So, I never really did understand why inexpensive stores like Aldies and Food For Less failed to put much of a dent in the mainstream grocery chains. Aldies should have done to Big Bear what Walmart is doing.

Why shouldn't Hoover move to Mexico? Shipping goods across the boarder is "free" and they don't have to worry about racial shakedowns in Mexico. Why blame Walmart instead of the hostile climate in America?

Is Target closing any stores and blaming WalMart? Not that I know of.

Not to deny that WalMart hurts the competition. But... If Walmart behaved like Microsoft, they would prohibit Coke and Pepsi from doing business with competing grocery stores ("...else we'll double the price of your products that we sell.") If the government gave special protection to WalMart, like Microsoft enjoys, stores like Target would have to pay royalties to WalMart for using similar practices and strategies.

WalMart is a big success because they make the consumer happy. They are not anti-competative nor do they do things their competition does not.

I'm against protectionism, but I am also against giving foreign companies tax-free access to American markets while American companies have to pay taxes. But, leveling the playing field companies that produce goods will not make incompetently operated chains like K-Mart a success. And, protecting K-Mart will reward a bunch of fat twits at the expense of taxpayers and consumers.[/QUOTE]


skemper

2004-01-29 13:57 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Everyone on here should join Sams Club. You will all be shocked at how much better Sams Club is than any of those stores. Sams Clubs sell quality high-end brand name products for the same prices that Walmart, K-mart, and Meijers sell useless defective garbage.[/QUOTE]

Isn't Sam's Club a subsidary of Walmart? I prefer to support American-made products that are made by actual citizens of America and I accept that I have to pay higher prices for them. This means that I usually have to go to department or speciality stores or buy the highest priced product in Walmart, if they have an American manufactured version of it. If there is no American version of the product I then look for European versions and sometimes would buy the European version if it is of higher quality. But it is hard to avoid buying third world goods because the all American production of them has ceased.


Kevin_O'Keeffe

2004-01-30 03:03 | User Profile

"Everyone on here should join Sams Club. You will all be shocked at how much better Sams Club is than any of those stores. Sams Clubs sell quality high-end brand name products for the same prices that Walmart, K-mart, and Meijers sell useless defective garbage."

It should be noted that Sam's Club is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Wal-Mart (the "Sam" refers to Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton). Seeing as how Wal-Mart is one of the leading corporate actors in the IP's drive to bring about the Brazilification of America, I find that less than sterling advice. Perhaps better advice would be to avoid buying anything, to the maximum extent it is possible to do so. Everything you buy, for all practical purposes, is more money in the pockets of our enemies. Why purchase a lambskin jacket for $70, even if that represents substantial savings, when you can purchase a cloth one for $25? Looking cool shouldn't be a priority, especially when "coolness" itself is basically defined as the extent to which one can ape the apes, so to speak, i.e. act like a Negro. If the lambskin jacket was made in a union shop (or at least one that pays decent wages) to its predominantly White employees, or is at least owned and managed by a White family, then that might be something else. But it was probably made in Mexico or China too, or in some domestic sweatshop....


skemper

2004-01-30 14:10 | User Profile

[QUOTE]If the lambskin jacket was made in a union shop (or at least one that pays decent wages) to its predominantly White employees, or is at least owned and managed by a White family, then that might be something else. But it was probably made in Mexico or China too, or in some domestic sweatshop....[/QUOTE]

That's the problem. Even if the product says "Made in the USA", the company can still use low paid illegals hired through a contract agency. I don't have time to call each company that I buy products from to confirm if they use all American help and not illegal contract work. Chances are that the person I am talking to is from India and would of course lie and say that they were. As for food, most everything picked or produced by illegal labor: fruits, vegetables, poultry, meats, etc. Also most clothing is produced overseas. Even if you were to sew your own, the cloth is likely produced abroad. So, unless you are willing to run a subsistance farm or live like the Amish, you cannot escape illegal produce goods.


Happy Hacker

2004-01-30 16:12 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]Perhaps better advice would be to avoid buying anything, to the maximum extent it is possible to do so. Everything you buy, for all practical purposes, is more money in the pockets of our enemies. Why purchase a lambskin jacket for $70, even if that represents substantial savings, when you can purchase a cloth one for $25? [/QUOTE]

You're right. One of the best things we can do is avoid buying things in the first place. Spend less time working (and thus pay less tax) and spend more time with your family. Buy modest clothing. You'll still look sharp if you're neat, clean, healthy, and happy.

I'm not a big fan of "made in America." If a coat is "made in America" it is still made with imported materials and it is assembled by mostly nonwhites. And, to pay more, you have to earn more which means more taxes to help the government with its anti-white agenda. If you pay extra for "made in America" you're screwing yourself more than you're helping out. Just don't buy in the first place, to any extent possible.


Ponce

2004-02-01 02:06 | User Profile

Just about everybody blames Wal Mart and yet,,,,,,, Wal Mar is one of the very few companys that actually pass their saving to their customers. Take Sears, I read from another post about the guy that bought a $100.00 shirt and the first time he wore it it fell apart, it was made in Shi Lanka (is that how you spell it?) Anyway..... More and more companys are going overseas and keeping their profits for themselves,,,,,so please, don't blame Wal Mart if they share with us their savings and at the same time making money. I'd prefer to sell 100 gizmos for $10 dollars rather than 2 gizmos for $40.00.


Ragnar

2004-02-01 05:53 | User Profile

  1. Walmart makes deals with foreign governments at the expense of American communities, small business, and the domestic workforce.

  2. Walmart passes some of the savings onto their customers. How much? Percentage? You don't know because professionals in industry do not know.

A "globalized" product literally cannot be priced. The Japs build DVD players in Indonesia or China to sell to the US and Europe. They have no idea what their own costs come to. With China, they pay a per-piece rate on the units. What the Chinese actually spend making the product is something else again. As long as the Japs get the goods, they ask no questions of the Celestial Empire.

The Japs can cut prices in half and quarters on most of their consumer products and still make money. Because they stick their factories where few questions are asked and none of the workers have a life expectancy past about 32.7 years.

Walmart has its own liaison officers to both US Homeland Security and to the Chinese Secret Police. You really want to stick up for them?


Happy Hacker

2004-02-01 06:40 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ragnar]1. Walmart makes deals with foreign governments at the expense of American communities, small business, and the domestic workforce.

There's truth to this. But, WalMart competitors do it, too. The mom and pop store is as obsolete as the horse and buggy. This not caused by WalMart, but by the economy of scale and trade, as well as the pro-big business policies of the US government.

  1. Walmart passes some of the savings onto their customers. How much? Percentage? You don't know because professionals in industry do not know.

WalMart's competitors also buy their junk outside of the US. But, WalMart is usually cheaper. They are passing on more savings to the consumer. I could even say that WalMart is less greedy. Instead of trying to squeeze every bit of profit from every product, they try to squeeze profit out of quantity.

Most prices their products a the point where you say "Ouch, that's expensive, but I might still buy it."

The Japs can cut prices in half and quarters on most of their consumer products and still make money. Because they stick their factories where few questions are asked and none of the workers have a life expectancy past about 32.7 years.

It's nice to know you care so much about the workers for the Jaos. So, why would you want to make them unemployed? Anyway, I don't know anything about workers for the Japanes having only a 32.7 life expectancy. I find that a bit dubious.

Walmart has its own liaison officers to both US Homeland Security and to the Chinese Secret Police. You really want to stick up for them?[/QUOTE]

I don't know anything about this either.


Ragnar

2004-02-01 14:31 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Starting about the late 1970s, the Rockefeller banks, such as the First National of Chicago, now to confuse people re-named Bank One, began loaning billions and billions of dollars to mainland China. The promise was that Red China would pay back with gold from their western provinces. BUT, China did not allow in any inspectors to determiine if there is that much gold there to be used to re-pay the loans. Instead, China has been allowed to pay back with "China White" flooding into the U.S. All the while the pressfakers keep falsely saying that most of the dope is coming from Colombia.

The American CIA, after all, are the security force worldwide protecting the assets and oilfields of the Rockefellers. So it should come as no surprise that ethnic Chinese, the Riady Family, suddenly got big in Arkansas. A money laundry vehicle has been Stephen & Co., the Rockefeller-linked bond house, second only to Wall Street, headquartered in Little Rock.

In the 1980s, the CIA was shipping through the southern states, guns to Central America, and return trips of dope. Some originating in Colombia and a few other places. It was centered around a small community in western Arkansas, Mena, and the Mena Airport. The Riadys bought the tiny First National Bank of Mena reportedly as a laundry vehicle to the Chicago markets. [...]

You can understand how profound the corruption is. Instrumental in the past in covering up this massive dope smuggling has been Asa Hutchinson. Get this. He has been recently named head of the DEA.

[B]Wal-Mart and J.B. Hunt Transport Services. Where did the funding come from in the 1980s, for them to get so big? If you think they spread out simply because they are clever, then you are a firm believer in fairy tales.[/B] In simple terms, the backward state of Arkansas, controlled by the Rockefellers, with Rockefeller-agent calling himself "Bill Clinton" (or whatever his real name is), became the shuttle point for the Red Chinese in America...

[B]In its simplest terms, Wal-Mart is a front for the Rockefellers and the Red Chinese Secret Police.[/B] Do not the top honchos at Wal-Mart know that their cheap prices are based on production by Chinese slave labor, in camps and factories operated by the Secret Police? By the way, there has been a movement in the U.S. to pay reparations to the descendents of American slavery. Will there some day be a similar movement in mainland China, to compensate the families and descendents of slave laborers?

Items that other stores sell for twenty dollars are sold by Wal-Mart for ten dollars. And Wal-Mart reportedly pays only twenty cents for the item made by slave labor. [B]There is very little about the period of the 1980s as to Wal-Mart, when the Rockefellers were installing the Chinese in Arkansas and in American business. Who was noticing when the Rockefellers were playing their China card?[/B]

[B]Who is a major transporter for Wal-Mart and got likewise big in the 1980s? Why, J.B. Hunt Transport Services, Inc., now headquartered in Lowell, Arkansas.[/B] Some of J.B. Hunt's drivers have confirmed to us, off the record, because they do not wish to jeopardize their good jobs: (1) that reportedly they have reason to believe on occasion they are transporting contraband, believed by them to be narcotics and (2) that state authorities, such as in Illinois, know J.B. Hunt trucks are untouchable, not to be stopped for searching such as for contraband, or suspected overloading, or any other trucking or other violations. In Illinois, the trucks are headed for a J.B. Hunt terminal in a Chicago suburb. [...]

On their own website, [url]www.jbhunt.com[/url], here is how they describe their founder Johnnie Bryan Hunt, "J.B. Hunt embodies the American rags-to-riches FABLE in its most engaging personification. A living example of the AMERICAN DREAM fulfilled. He guided his billion-dollar trucking empire with the same enthusiasm and raw fortitude from which it began....

We think the term FABLE is well-chosen as is the myth promoted by the monopoly press of "American Dream". On their website is the purported "History" of J.B. Hunt Transport Services, Inc. [B]They tell us little about how they got big in the 1980s, at the time the Rockefellers were setting up Arkansas as a Red Chinese outpost in America. And at a time when the Red Chinese Secret Police got bigger and bigger in the U.S. using their front, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., and its various units.[/B]

[B]Why are so many Americans generally so BLANK when it comes to understanding the origins of the supposed fortunes like Wal-Mart?[/B] Many grow up knowing only what they are taught from the Establishment's propaganda school textbooks. And from what they see and hear on the mass media. Seldom is mentioned documented studies, such as Gustavus Myers "History of the Great American Fortunes", showing they were founded by the most rotten criminals who were never prosecuted and jailed as they should have been. His other heavily-documented book "History of the Supreme Court" shows our legal system, at the highest level, has been riddled with crime-committing judges. Such as the so-called renowned Chief Justice John Marshall from early in the 19th Century. His gold-framed portrait hangs in many law schools. In Chicago, a law school is named for him. Yet, as Myers documents, Chief Justice Marshall covered up on America's highest tribunal , the U.S. Supreme Court, where he presided, massive land frauds INVOLVING HIS OWN FAMILY....[/QUOTE]

While uneven, Sherman Skolnik's series on Walmart and the Rockefellers and the Red Chinese is a foot in the door to the real story:

[url]http://www.rense.com/Datapages/skolnickdatapage.html[/url]


The point of the "labor issue" isn't the poor, enslaved Chinese getting the shaft. Americans didn't care for poor, enslaved Chinese when they toiled for Mao and they don't care now that they are working for Walmart.

What Americans should grasp is that these slave laborers (and so on) are being used by a criminal corporate-government cartel to distort the markets in North America.

But (as pointed out elsewhere on this forum in many different subjects) Americans really care about nothing at all till they get bit in the ass. The corporate-government squeeze is about to do lots of biting. Watch for a Great Awakening very soon.

(Note: Ted Twietmeyer, the Virginia writer, noted that at Walmart HQ in Benton, AK is an area restricted to employees with the sign "HOMELAND SECURITY" in front. Twietmeyer believes this has to do with tracking everyting Walmart sells with its new equipment. Maybe, but Walmart has always had intense banker-national security connections. Might just be where the honchos get together and make plans?)


Texas Dissident

2004-02-01 19:09 | User Profile

Chinese commie-loving Wal-Mart just sucks. Do whatever you can to avoid them on principle alone.


Franco

2004-02-01 23:58 | User Profile

When, oh, when are the conned-swervatives going to realize that big western capitalism [collectively speaking] is a bad idea?

As a famous author noted, big western capitalism [again collectively] often becomes the only game in town, just like Marxism. It actually curbs the retail choices of the average Joe. It shuts down the Mom-and-Pop stores who cannot compete with huge stores.

And......guess who pioneered big western capitalism [collectively again] in the later 20th century? Jews.