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David Ben-Ariel [OP]

2003-12-24 00:43 | User Profile

The Jerusalem Post reports: "The construction of the security fence is to be expedited in 2004 and become the "largest construction project ever" undertaken by the nation...".

I'm pleased to ANNOUNCE that the THIRD TEMPLE will soon eclipse the efforts to build the Fence and will truly become the "largest construction project ever" undertaken by the NATION, as is just and proper.

Millions of faithful Jews and Christian-Zionists worldwide join together in reassuring Jerusalem and the Temple Mount: "You shall be built..and to the Temple, Your foundation shall be laid!" (Isaiah 44:28).


Sertorius

2003-12-24 04:12 | User Profile

The Jerusalem Post reports: "The construction of the security fence (wall) is to be expedited in 2004 and become the "largest construction project ever" undertaken by the nation...".

So saith the Jerusalem Post.

What they don't say that it is paid for with U.S. tax dollars.


Angler

2003-12-24 04:14 | User Profile

Maybe that "Third Temple" will be built. But so what? As far as genuine Christianity is concerned -- the kind that's been practiced for around 2000 years now -- the only thing that matters is Christ's life, crucifixion, and Resurrection. Christianity teaches that Christ Himself is the new Temple, about which He said: "If you destroy this Temple, in three days I will raise it back up." Of course, the Jews didn't understand Him then, just as Jews and Christian Zionists don't understand Him today.

What did Christ say is "the Law and the Prophets"? Two rules: "Love God with all your heart, soul, and strength," and "Love your neighbor as yourself." I don't see anything about a "Third Temple" in there.

Christian Zionism is a cultic movement. It would be merely silly and harmless if it weren't responsible for so much suffering and death in the world. In fact, I hope that "Third Temple" DOES get built so all the Christian Zionists can see that it won't bring about the Second Coming of Christ.


Texas Dissident

2003-12-24 09:37 | User Profile

[QUOTE=David Ben-Ariel]Millions of faithful Jews and Christian-Zionists worldwide join together in reassuring Jerusalem and the Temple Mount: "You shall be built..and to the Temple, Your foundation shall be laid!" (Isaiah 44:28).[/QUOTE]

Outright heresy! Review Hebrews chapter 9.

Why in the world would any so-called Christian advocate a return to old covenant practices that were merely [url=http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/type.htm]types and shadows[/url] of everything fulfilled in Christ? I hesitate in speaking so strongly, but your oxymoronic 'Christian-Zionism' that looks to rebuild temples in Jerusalem is a doctrine of demons that ultimately denies Christ himself.

Jews in Israel can waste their efforts and do as they wish I suppose. But don't you dare try and conflate orthodox Christianity with their anti-Christ schemes.

"For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence. Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."


Walter Yannis

2003-12-24 10:55 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident] I hesitate in speaking so strongly, but your oxymoronic 'Christian-Zionism' that looks to rebuild temples in Jerusalem is a doctrine of demons that ultimately denies Christ himself. [/QUOTE]

Maybe this is the "abomination of desolation?" I also hesitate to speculate on that - just laying it out there.

But clearly the temple mocks Christ, inasmuch as His Body is the New Temple.

They'll find out in God's own good time. He will not be mocked.

Walter


Walter Yannis

2003-12-24 11:15 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Angler]Maybe that "Third Temple" will be built. But so what? As far as genuine Christianity is concerned -- the kind that's been practiced for around 2000 years now -- the only thing that matters is Christ's life, crucifixion, and Resurrection. Christianity teaches that Christ Himself is the new Temple, about which He said: "If you destroy this Temple, in three days I will raise it back up." Of course, the Jews didn't understand Him then, just as Jews and Christian Zionists don't understand Him today.

What did Christ say is "the Law and the Prophets"? Two rules: "Love God with all your heart, soul, and strength," and "Love your neighbor as yourself." I don't see anything about a "Third Temple" in there.

Christian Zionism is a cultic movement. It would be merely silly and harmless if it weren't responsible for so much suffering and death in the world. In fact, I hope that "Third Temple" DOES get built so all the Christian Zionists can see that it won't bring about the Second Coming of Christ.[/QUOTE]

I agree with everything you say. Nice work.

The Third Temple is the Body of Christ - the same body that we feed upon every Sunday at Mass.

It occurred to me last Sunday at Mass that the manger that held my Little Lord beautifully presaged the Eucharist. There He was, served up as feed to the mere creatures that He deigned to elevate high, high up to the stars to share in His Divinity.

I'm sure the connection between the manger and the Eucharist isn't original - I must have read that somewhere before, although I can't recall. But it really hit me like a ton of bricks.

I was blessed to visit the very site of His Divine birth in Bethlehem several years ago. I kiss His tender little footsies.

Here's wishing all here a very Merry Christmas. May the little God-Man find a warm corner in all of our hearts, today and always.

Walter


Walter Yannis

2003-12-25 09:55 | User Profile

For those with interest in such things, here's an interesting take on the Gospels' use of food metaphors and how they relate to the traditional Christian understanding of the Eucharist:

[url]http://www.bridegroompress.com/sc/EUCHRIST.HTM[/url]

Walter


Feric Jaggar

2003-12-25 14:23 | User Profile

Questions: 1. Will they still allow the money-changers in (anything else would be seen as a nod to Christianity)?

  1. What will the international community think of the Israelis when the sacrificial blood starts to cascade into the streets? Modern Evangelicals think of Jews as Christians without a church, but won't this bring it home to them when they see the blood flow in defiance of Christ's sacrifice? I can only hope so.