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2003-12-18 10:00 | User Profile
This appeared in the Catholic Exchange on 12/18/03.
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I'm convinced that Liberals' "no-compromise" position in favor of abortion on demand without any restrictions whatsoever is motivated by an instinctive fear and loathing of blacks. It's genocide, really, as these numbers indicate, even though Evolution has designed them (like the rest of us) to hide that fact from their conscious minds.
As E.O. Wilson pointed out, our most lofty conscious intentions often mask far baser motivations. Wilson discusses in his "On Human Nature" the case of a Reverend Robinson who spent his life trying to "save" the Tasmanian Aborigines from the British settlers who were actually hunting them down and killing them in mass. Despite Robinson's best conscious intentions, his efforts in fact lead to this people utterly dying out, and Wilson concludes that this was his unconscious goal all along.
In other words, the good Rev. Robinson's Calvinism was a Culture-of-Critique ideological assault aimed directly at dissolving the Tasmanians' tribal bonds and their ability to reproduce. The women quit having babies, and they died out in the course of Robinson's lifetime. And it all happened in a nice, antiseptic way that was effective precisely because it was so well camouflaged by high-sounding moral bromides.
There is no doubt in my mind that the white liberals are engaged in the same sort of spiritual guerilla tactics as Robinson. They loudly beat their breast and trumpet their love for my African brothers and sisters in Christ even as they crush the heads of the littlest of them and suck their brains out with a vacuum cleaner.
These truly are whitened sepulchers.
Walter
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) published its latest survey on abortion in the United States on the day after Thanksgiving. The survey, reporting legal induced abortions obtained in the U.S. in the year 2000, contains some eye-opening findings you will not likely read in the mainstream press. Go here to read the full report.
Keep in mind that the survey presents data that is voluntarily reported by cities and states, the mechanisms by which cities and states gather the data in the first place can vary widely, and some states donââ¬â¢t report at all. California, which in 1997 was responsible for 23 percent of all abortions nationwide, decided in 1998 to remain mum on abortion within its borders, as did New Hampshire and Alaska.
Since the CDC has no information from jurisdictions which together account for nearly one-fourth of abortions nationwide, it is impossible to have any real analysis of national trends. Still, the publication gives a startling, if incomplete, picture of abortion in the U.S. at the end of the last century, and is worth review. Some of the findings include the following:
Women die from legal abortion. The survey reports that 14 women died as a result of complications from known legal induced abortion in 1998 and 1999. Data on deaths from 2000 is not yet available. In fact, from 1973 to 1999 at least 327 women have died from legal induced abortion, according to the study.
[I][B]Abortion rates change with race. In the areas for which race was adequately reported, "the abortion rate for black women was 3.1 times the rate for white women." In addition, "the abortion ratio for black women (503 per 1,000 live births) was 3.0 times the ratio for white women (167 per 1,000 live births)." This means that black babies are aborted three times more frequently than white babies.[/B][/I]
Multiple abortions are the norm, not the exception. According to the survey, where the "number of previous abortions was adequately reported," 53 percent of women had an abortion for the first time in 2000. That means 47 percent of women having abortions in 2000 were not having their first abortion. How many abortions do women have? The survey breaks it down by state, but stops counting at "three or more previous legal induced abortions." In 2000, Maryland had the highest percentage of women having their fourth (or more) abortion: 16.7 percent. New York City had the second highest ratio, with 14.7 percent of women having at least their fourth abortion in 2000.
The highest number of reported legal induced abortions in 2000 occurred in New York City: 94,466. Florida and Texas have the second and third highest abortion numbers, 88,563 and 76,121 respectively. California likely ranks among the top, but they wonââ¬â¢t tell.
What is lacking from the survey is any indication why these abortions occurred. The report states simply that they were elective procedures. The abortion lobby dismisses the question of why, insisting that "who decides?" is all that matters. But "why" does matter very much. Why did each of these women wake up one morning, get into a car or a cab, and take that fateful drive? This is perhaps the most important question of all.
Cathy Cleaver Ruse, is the director of planning and information for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Secretariat for Pro-Life Activities.
(This article courtesy of the Arlington Catholic Herald.)
2003-12-18 16:19 | User Profile
I definitely disagree. I think liberals like abortion simply b/c....it's a "birthright" (no pun intended) that their liberal mothers have taught them is uncompromising from the time they were kids.
Most men don't care either way about the issue, from my experience. It's women that really care, and for the most part, women are pro-choice. I dobut the average woman thinks consciously "I really ahte blacks. I know! Let's fight for abortion rights!"
The average liberal woman cares about 1 thing: herself.
-Jay
2003-12-18 16:51 | User Profile
A related story released by the CDC today was about how, nationally, the birth rate for black teen mothers since 1991 has been cut in half. Might 1990's welfare reform have something to do with this? Or has the abortion rate increased in that time?
2003-12-18 17:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jay] I dobut the average woman thinks consciously "I really ahte blacks. I know! Let's fight for abortion rights!" [/QUOTE]
Jay: The point I'm making is exactly that it's not conscious to them, but is a big part of the subconscious animus motivating organizations like Planned Parenthood.
Heck, Planned Parenthood was founded with the stated intention of killing of blacks and others deemed unfit for life. But that was way back when it was okay to say those things. After WWII that was of course considered politically incorrect, and so more subtle tactics were adopted.
But the motivations are the same.
As Jesus said, "by their fruits you shall know them." Or as our Common Law puts it a man is deemed to intend the foreseeable consequences of his actions. PP and other anti-life groups target the poor and the black, in America and around the world, and of course it should be no surprise that black children are wildly overrepresented in the medical waste bins. It was intended, no doubt.
Walter
2003-12-18 19:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Heck, Planned Parenthood was founded with the stated intention of killing of blacks and others deemed unfit for life. PP and other anti-life groups target the poor and the black, in America and around the world, and of course it should be no surprise that black children are wildly overrepresented in the medical waste bins. It was intended, no doubt.[/QUOTE]
Very true, Walter. And since we're on the subject of PP, let us not forgot George Bush's extensive involvement with them. Details as follows:
[url]http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Exhibit/2412/eugenics/Bush.html[/url]
[url]http://www.heartswithsoul.com/eugenics.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.tribalmessenger.org/t-secret-gov/eugenics.htm[/url]
2003-12-20 14:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Very true, Walter. And since we're on the subject of PP, let us not forgot George Bush's extensive involvement with them. Details as follows:
[url]http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Exhibit/2412/eugenics/Bush.html[/url]
[url]http://www.heartswithsoul.com/eugenics.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.tribalmessenger.org/t-secret-gov/eugenics.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Great links, Tex. Thanks.
The Freepers must be glad to know they have a true conservative in the White House.
Walter
2003-12-20 20:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Most men don't care either way about the issue, from my experience. It's women that really care, and for the most part, women are pro-choice.[/QUOTE]
While I am well aware of the fraudulent nature of the 'caring and nurturing' characterization of the gender that so wantonly sacrifices those whom nature has entrusted to their protection to the bloody abortionist's knife, I don't think the three legged of the species should be absolved of their active participation in this abominable practice. The world is full of men, yes, even 'Aryan' men, who pressure wives and girlfriends into availing themselves of Uncle Shmuel's unparalleled skull crushing services. Some of these fine fellows even consider that one is not a real man until he has paid for having one of his children destroyed.
[QUOTE]Very true, Walter. And since we're on the subject of PP, let us not forgot George Bush's extensive involvement with them. Details as follows:[/QUOTE]
Where did you get those links, Tex? Sounds like the loyal, i.e., the fake opposition, trying to corral what's left of honorable white men and women into the JudeoChristian slaughterhouse holding pens. I am getting tired of repeating for the gazillionth time the unassailable fact that Hitler not only did not open the sluice gates of abortion, but went so far as to make abortion a CAPITOL offense. Even more importantly than this, he put in place social programs that induced German women to NOT WANT to have abortions had they even been legally available. After the glorious revolution of 1933, German women came to view childbirth as a sublime privilege rather than an onerous indignity. As for George Mestizo Bush, fils et pere, the abundance of all 'the little brown ones' in the Bush brood speaks volumes about their putative genocidal tendencies towards colored people.
One last question, by what stretch of (il)logic does it follow that those of us who oppose the untrammeled breeding of the unfit are abortion happy? If you want to end this disgusting practice, one of the best ways to take a large chunk out of it is to alleviate one of the very few pressure points that might drive even nondegenerates in a moment of distress to do the unthinkable. I mean economic pressures borne of allowing the fecund rabble to rob the productive of the means of supporting their offspring. Common sense dictates that a society of eugenically sound individuals would have astonishingly low rates of this odious practice. It seems to me that Christians ('Pro-Life' and otherwise!) and other Marxists perennially advocating for the unfettered whelping of the parasitic are the best friends that the kosher fetal dismemberment crew has.
2003-12-20 20:30 | User Profile
Cato: I think we agree on the basic point that abortion is race war by other means.
The point that I'm trying to make is that evolution hardwired all of us to defend the tribe against outsiders by ways both subtle and overt. We're so highly evolved to the task that we naturally hide our own motives from ourselves. Self deception is as natural as dew on green grass - for the man who has no doubts about himself is stronger - and therefore enjoys a clear survival advantage - over the man who is tormented by doubts and self-recrimination. Thus the trait for doublethink spread.
As I've written here previously, there's a great Science Fictin "B" movie called "Screamers" that deals with this point beautifully. A group of people are stranded on a planet that was seeded by self-evolving machines by their human enemies. These machines evolved rapidly, and we get to see a whole evolutionary chain of models, each an advance on the previous one. The penultimate model is a convincing human type, but apparently still aware of its own deception and it winds up giving itself away. The final model appears to be human and actually believes itself to be human and loyally fighting on the side of the real men on a conscious level, only to reveal (to the horror of its conscious self) its true nature in the end. Check it out. It's not a great film, but the idea is way far cool, and it illustrates well this point that E.O. Wilson described in his story about the good Calvinist preacher Robinson and his mission to "save" the Tasmanians I mention above.
I insist that the real motivations for the Jewish-lead pro-aborts - the visceral energy driving them forward creeps like that Jewish abortion in Arizona - is precisely this need to destroy the enemy by dashing their childrens' brains against the rocks. But it isn't just Jews. Whle there are many groups vying for the honors in this Babel we've become, clearly the WASP and Jewish women who lead organizations like Planned Parenthood and NARAL don't have the best interests of negroes at heart. They're Screamers - they lie to themselves about their true motives. They tell themselves - and they truly believe - that they're trying to help the poor and disadvantaged - but they're really there to kill them as effectively as possible. But again as Jesus said, judge them by their fruits. And their fruits are millions of of dead babies of all colors, with blacks and browns losing big at the margins. If I'm reading the figures correctly, half of all black babies are murdered through abortion.
And your observation that the clamour for abortion lessens in ethnically pure nations like Nazi Germany accords with that theory perfectly. Take away the visceral motivations driving the mad committment to abortion on demand out of the equation by removing the tribal fears excited by proximity, and of course suddenly people will see just how horrific the whole thing is.
The drive to bring abortion to Poland and Ireland (the Dutch group on their boat) is obviously motivated by a fear of these people entering political union with them.
Nationalism is part of God's plan for us. Abortion on demand is just one of the more appalling consequences of the Sin of Babel.
Walter
2003-12-21 00:57 | User Profile
"I insist that the real motivations for the Jewish-lead pro-aborts"
There's the nugget. Jews lead the abortion industry......[sarcasm] but, duhhh, I wonder why top religious leaders nebber, ebber mention dat? Why not? What dem peepo be afwaid of? Team Hymiebergfeldnik? Hmmm? Just whose country is this? Don' answer dat....it be Team Hymiebergfeldnik's! It be better to let abort-baby stuff happen daily than ta say da word "Jew!" Right? Right? No? Weally? Hmmmm....better tell dat to dem top church peepo...
2003-12-21 01:47 | User Profile
I am not certain how 'unaware' these NARAL women are. They certainly don't think of their actions as part of a 'war'; but they are interested in ending the threat of negor over-population. Doing this will, after all, make for a much happier, richer, kinder United States. It is just that these women will only choose methods that are found acceptable for reasons un-related to their feelings about race (which I am sure they rarely explain to others in very concrete terms).
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Cato: I think we agree on the basic point that abortion is race war by other means.
The point that I'm trying to make is that evolution hardwired all of us to defend the tribe against outsiders by ways both subtle and overt. We're so highly evolved to the task that we naturally hide our own motives from ourselves. Self deception is as natural as dew on green grass - for the man who has no doubts about himself is stronger - and therefore enjoys a clear survival advantage - over the man who is tormented by doubts and self-recrimination. Thus the trait for doublethink spread.
As I've written here previously, there's a great Science Fictin "B" movie called "Screamers" that deals with this point beautifully. A group of people are stranded on a planet that was seeded by self-evolving machines by their human enemies. These machines evolved rapidly, and we get to see a whole evolutionary chain of models, each an advance on the previous one. The penultimate model is a convincing human type, but apparently still aware of its own deception and it winds up giving itself away. The final model appears to be human and actually believes itself to be human and loyally fighting on the side of the real men on a conscious level, only to reveal (to the horror of its conscious self) its true nature in the end. Check it out. It's not a great film, but the idea is way far cool, and it illustrates well this point that E.O. Wilson described in his story about the good Calvinist preacher Robinson and his mission to "save" the Tasmanians I mention above.
I insist that the real motivations for the Jewish-lead pro-aborts - the visceral energy driving them forward creeps like that Jewish abortion in Arizona - is precisely this need to destroy the enemy by dashing their childrens' brains against the rocks. But it isn't just Jews. Whle there are many groups vying for the honors in this Babel we've become, clearly the WASP and Jewish women who lead organizations like Planned Parenthood and NARAL don't have the best interests of negroes at heart. They're Screamers - they lie to themselves about their true motives. They tell themselves - and they truly believe - that they're trying to help the poor and disadvantaged - but they're really there to kill them as effectively as possible. But again as Jesus said, judge them by their fruits. And their fruits are millions of of dead babies of all colors, with blacks and browns losing big at the margins. If I'm reading the figures correctly, half of all black babies are murdered through abortion.
And your observation that the clamour for abortion lessens in ethnically pure nations like Nazi Germany accords with that theory perfectly. Take away the visceral motivations driving the mad committment to abortion on demand out of the equation by removing the tribal fears excited by proximity, and of course suddenly people will see just how horrific the whole thing is.
The drive to bring abortion to Poland and Ireland (the Dutch group on their boat) is obviously motivated by a fear of these people entering political union with them.
Nationalism is part of God's plan for us. Abortion on demand is just one of the more appalling consequences of the Sin of Babel.
Walter[/QUOTE]
2003-12-21 04:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Nationalism is part of God's plan for us. Abortion on demand is just one of the more appalling consequences of the Sin of Babel.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the bizarre world of Walter Yannis, a tabernacle of one.
On the lighter side, I'd love to know how the CDC arrives at their numbers. My completely unscientific guesstimations have always led me to believe it is the white, upscale, "I'm gonna grow up to be a perfect size five AND be a partner in a law firm AND get shtupped in a unisex bathroom like I saw on ALLY MacBEAL" females who are doing most of the converting of their fetii into strawberry dumpster-jam. Maybe these trends have SOMEWHAT reversed with welfare-reform but in the old days they were paying mooncrickets by the head - and the best way for a black or Messican to hike her monthly check was to expel as many rugrats as possible without benefit of legitimacy.
After all, it's supposed to be the easy access to abortion that is contributing to Western whites not reproducing their numbers sufficiently which is the oft-cited [fake] rationale for importing the Third World here. (Ok, we ALL know they're here to supplant us at fifty cents on the dollar so that the Kenny Lays of the world don't have to endure a pay cut down to $40 million a year - and maybe have to give up a summer home or three out of forced austerity - but they can't come out and phrase it quite like that.) Now I'm supposed to believe that even the Underclasses are opting to Hoovervac their progeny away out of convenience as well? Well then what do we do when THEY can't replace their numbers? Import Venusians?
2003-12-21 06:28 | User Profile
The reason why Afros have more abotions is the same reason why the murder more people on the street. Do remember Afros still have a higher birthrate even with their use of abotion and controceptives. this has nothing to do with eugenics or "White" plotting.
[QUOTE]Abortion rates change with race. In the areas for which race was adequately reported, "the abortion rate for black women was 3.1 times the rate for white women." In addition, "the abortion ratio for black women (503 per 1,000 live births) was 3.0 times the ratio for white women (167 per 1,000 live births)." This means that black babies are aborted three times more frequently than white babies. [/QUOTE]
Also remember Mexico has a much higher abotionrate than the US and so do they Aztlaners.
I do not see a link between White racism eugenics and abotion.
It is controceptives that our destroying our Nations and Culture, not abotion. The "Pill" does far more damage.
2003-12-21 08:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE]The reason why Afros have more abotions is the same reason why the murder more people on the street. Do remember Afros still have a higher birthrate even with their use of abotion and controceptives. this has nothing to do with eugenics or "White" plotting. [/QUOTE]
Good point, but it only goes to prove the point that blacks lose at the margins in a very, very big way.
[QUOTE]Also remember Mexico has a much higher abotionrate than the US and so do they Aztlaners.
I do not see a link between White racism eugenics and abotion.[/QUOTE]
I think that the mistake you're making here is that racism isn't part and parcel of Mexican society. The whites rule, mestizos toil, and the Indians just endure - if I remember the Mexican proverb correctly. As Steve Sailer has pointed out many times, it's more than a tad odd that a six foot four inch Irishman is ruling over a nation teeming with shrimpy brown people. Our current problems with Mexican illegal immigration is at the behest of the white ruling class in Mexico who, in cahoots with our own beloved WASP and Kosher elites, are making a deal to the benefit of both (lessened revolutionary pressure in Mexico and cheap labor in the States).
But that's a short term solution. Spreading abotion on demand to Catholic Mexico is part of the long term solution.
[QUOTE]It is controceptives that our destroying our Nations and Culture, not abotion. The "Pill" does far more damage.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but you seem to assume that the pill and abortion are not integral parts of the same thing. That's not so. Planned Parenthood is all about contraception, and abortion is for them just another form of contraception. They are flip sides of the same coin.
2003-12-21 08:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Welcome to the bizarre world of Walter Yannis, a tabernacle of one.[/QUOTE]
I don't know where that came from, please explain.
The idea that nationalism is part of God's plan of salvation is traditional Christian teaching, please see Articles 56-58 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
The Sin of Babel is a denial of this central fact of God's plan to save men grouped "in their families, with their langues, in their lands, in their nations." My point about abortion on demand relating to unspoken racial conflict is thoroughly grounded in that, at last so it would seem.
[QUOTE]56. "After the unity of the human race was shattered by sin God at once sought to save humanity part by part. The covenant with Noah after the flood gives expression to the principle of the divine economy toward the 'nations', in other words, towards men grouped 'in their lands, each with (its) own language, by their families, in their nations'.[Gen 10:5 ; cf. Gen 9:9-10, 16 ; Gen 10:20-31 .]"
"This state of division into many nations, each entrusted by divine providence to the guardianship of angels, is at once cosmic, social and religious. It is intended to limit the pride of fallen humanity [Cf. Acts 17:26-27 ; Dt 4:19 ; Dt 32:8 vLXX.] united only in its perverse ambition to forge its own unity as at Babel.[Cf. Wis 10:5 ; Gen 11:4-6 .] But, because of sin, both polytheism and the idolatry of the nation and of its rulers constantly threaten this provisional economy with the perversion of paganism.[Cf. Rom 1:18-25 .]"
"The covenant with Noah remains in force during the times of the Gentiles, until the universal proclamation of the Gospel.[Cf. Gen 9:16 ; Lk 21:24 ; DV 3.] The Bible venerates several great figures among the Gentiles: Abel the just, the king-priest Melchisedek - a figure of Christ - and the upright 'Noah, Daniel, and Job'.[Cf. Gen 14:18 ; Heb 7:3 ; Ezek 14:14 .] Scripture thus expresses the heights of sanctity that can be reached by those who live according to the covenant of Noah, waiting for Christ to 'gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad'.[Jn 11:52 .]"[/QUOTE]
You may not agree with my conclusions, but surely my opinions deserve more than a sneer, at least insofar as I've shown them to be thorougly grounded in traditional Christian teaching. Please explain where I err - as usual, I await your considered reply.
[QUOTE]On the lighter side, I'd love to know how the CDC arrives at their numbers. My completely unscientific guesstimations have always led me to believe it is the white, upscale, "I'm gonna grow up to be a perfect size five AND be a partner in a law firm AND get shtupped in a unisex bathroom like I saw on ALLY MacBEAL" females who are doing most of the converting of their fetii into strawberry dumpster-jam. [/QUOTE]
This is exactly the point. Which Tribe controls the media that spew out shows like Ally McBeal? Which Tribe controls the media that presents nation-destroyong race mixing as the norm? Which Tribe was behind the push in the universities and the medical and legal professions to normalize homosexuality and the rest?
Yes it's whites that are getting creamed by this, and this is precisely the result that the Tribalists wanted. Isn't it obvious that the Tribe wants us to not conceive children and if contraception fails then murder them through abortion - white, black, and brown - and that they don't particularly care how, when, where we do it?
What am I missing?
[QUOTE]After all, it's supposed to be the easy access to abortion that is contributing to Western whites not reproducing their numbers sufficiently which is the oft-cited [fake] rationale for importing the Third World here. (Ok, we ALL know they're here to supplant us at fifty cents on the dollar so that the Kenny Lays of the world don't have to endure a pay cut down to $40 million a year - and maybe have to give up a summer home or three out of forced austerity - but they can't come out and phrase it quite like that.) Now I'm supposed to believe that even the Underclasses are opting to Hoovervac their progeny away out of convenience as well? Well then what do we do when THEY can't replace their numbers? Import Venusians?[/QUOTE]
You're right, but it seems to me that this just goes to prove my point. Contraception and abortion help the Tribe to achieve their unspoken (and often subconscious) goal of creating a world like the Middle East - a patchwork of little groups of warring brown tribes that are easy to control.
The essential point here is that these things are driven by subconscious urges that will express themselves whenever two or more self-aware human tribes attempt to share a terriroty.
Look at how abortion perverts our politics. The Bill Clinton impeachment 5 years ago (how time flies!) was to a large degree about abortion, but nobody would talk about it. The sight of the leaders of NOW and NARAL standing liked whipped puppies in support of an accused rapist against his alleged victim(s) cannot be explained in any other way.
That's all pretty obvious to me. You're a smart guy, so I can only assume that I'm missing something. Please elucidate.
2003-12-21 10:28 | User Profile
I've been away from OD a while - the usual time-consuming Real World nonsense - and I should have had better manners than to phrase that 'bizarre world' quip the way I did. It was meant as a razz but not a sneering one. I am just always amazed by your, let us say, [I]obstinate certainty regarding matters of faith[/I]...but not in a hostile way. I apologize if I seemed to be sneering with disdain.
Regarding the rest of your comments, I'm in total agreement - you don't need to convince [I]me [/I] that Hyman's chubby handprints are on most everything Evil in this world. I have just always assumed that - in the West, at least - white women were the leaders on the Infanticide charts. As I said, this is based on what I see, not any kind of scientific sampling. For one thing, back in the Welfare Daze, it was verifiable fact that a woman would receive a higher stipend for every bastard she could add to the rolls. The key was she not be legally married. Thus all the black single mothers with six kids by five different fathers. White women always seemed to me to be quicker to abort out of convenience, whereas an inner-city she-nog saw each new mouth to feed as an income-enhancer. So I've always assumed abortion was more the province of the white and relatively well-to-do.
Then, too, I've been tainted by once dating a girl (white, of course) who freely admitted to me that she'd already had five abortions. FIVE! I'm not sure if I was more unnerved by the total or the blithe openness with which she referred to these 'procedures'. I was 19 or so at the time, and while I was not the person I am today, I was so stunned I made a solemn promise to myself to never allow myself to impregnate [I]any[/I]one without fully intending to. A [I]well-timed withdrawal [/I] or use of contraceptives may not be hunky-dory with the Catholics but that's the Catholics' problem, not mine - however, it certainly beats being an unwitting accomplice to murder-for-convenience. And had I gotten [I]this [/I] one pregnant, she'd've killed it - no ifs ands or buts, and no checking with me first either. The funniest thing was she actually had the nerve to tell me with a straight face we ought to have a child together! I responded "After five abortions, you'd better wear a catcher's mitt in your panties just in case, doncha think?" BAM! Relationship [I]over[/I]. It taught me a valuable lesson: the culture of self-esteem makes for some awfully touchy mass-murderers. (Years later, I ran into a mutual friend who informed me that she'd added two more kills in the following years - and she was currently pregnant again.) If they ever amend the definition of 'serial killer' to include the murderers of the truly defenseless, Henry Lee Lucas is going to have a lot of chicks keeping him company.
2003-12-21 10:40 | User Profile
No sweat, Ragman.
I'm glad that we agree.
[QUOTE]A well-timed withdrawal or use of contraceptives may not be hunky-dory with the Catholics but that's the Catholics' problem, not mine - however, it certainly beats being an unwitting accomplice to murder-for-convenience. [/QUOTE]
I totally agree that contraception is a minor matter compared to abortion. I also think that an occasional well-timed withdrawal is okay, but it can lead to madness if done too often (believe me, I know).
Walter
2003-12-21 16:18 | User Profile
No matter their color, people who abort because they consider children an inconvenience are doing the rest of us a great big favor.
Any stats on Jewish abortions? Any suggestions about how their children can be made to seem inconvenient?
2003-12-21 18:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ruffin]No matter their color, people who abort because they consider children an inconvenience are doing the rest of us a great big favor.
Any stats on Jewish abortions? Any suggestions about how their children can be made to seem inconvenient?[/QUOTE]
That's an interesting opinion. I think that it goes to proving my point that abortion politics in our multi-ethnic society is race war by other means.
I think that your idea concerning the Tribe will fall under the rubric "trying to out-jew the Jews." Good luck.
As our young friend Perun says, we need to defeat the Tribe but not become them in the process. Amen to that.
I say that killing a black baby is murder, period. Do it through abortion or otherwise, it is WRONG and it will always be wrong. The fact that our instincts lead us to desire the murder of innocents (which we usually lack the moral courage to recognize) is the best argument I know for separation.
Lead us not into temptation, Jesus taught us to pray. But we must honor that prayer by avoiding the "near occasion of sin," as the Penguins in my Sunday school taught me. We must remove ourselves from situations that excite sinful conduct, and surely the tragic racial history of this country proves that living cheek-to-jowel with blacks is calling the very worst angels of our natures to center stage.
We might as well pray for the Lord's help in stopping drinking and whoring, and then move into an apartment above a cathouse.
The first step is to recognize that we have a problem - that living together is really bad for all of us - that blacks really bring out the worst in whites. We need to get rid of blacks to save our own souls.
Walter