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Thread ID: 11506 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2003-12-17
2003-12-17 06:57 | User Profile
Perun: I really like graphics they have of Christ's crucifixtion on the website!
[url]http://www.holywar.org/jesus.htm[/url]
Who killed Jesus?
The Liberal Catholics of our country are now making another concession to Interfaith charity and Brotherhood benevolence. They are saying, "It was not the Jews who crucified Christ; it was the Romans."
I should like to ask these Liberal Catholics a few pointed questions on the subject of Our Lord's death.
Was it the Romans who came out to seize Him in the Garden of Olives with swords and clubs on the night of His Passion, and who brought Him bound to the High Priest, and then to Pontius Pilate, demanding that He should be killed?
Was it a Roman who betrayed Jesus with a kiss, and was it to Romans He was sold for thirty pieces of silver?
Was the High Priest a Roman, who rent his garments and accused Our Lord of blasphemy when He declared Himself to be the Eternal Son of God?
Was it a Roman crowd which stood before the tribunal of Pontius Pilate and shouted: "If this man were not a malefactor we would not have handed Him over to you ... His blood be upon us and upon our children!"
Was it the Romans who disowned Jesus as the King of the Jews, and did not want the inscription placed over His head on the Cross when He hung, crowned with thorns, and with nails in His hands and His feet?
Was it God's judgement in Heaven that the Romans had killed Christ, and was that why the Power of the Almighty some thirty years later razed the Temple of Jerusalem to the ground, and left not one stone upon a stone, and has never allowed it to be rebuilt from that day to this?
In the prayers of the Mass for Good Friday of Holy Week, the priest refers to the "perfidious Jews" as the ones who betrayed and crucified Christ. Should he be saying the "perfidious Romans"? And has it been wrong for the Church to put it the first way for as long as her history?
When Our Lord hung upon the Cross, His first recorded words were, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do."
Do the Liberal Catholics really think Our Lord was referring to the Jews when He said, "They know not what they do"? Was it the Jewish Chief Priests, the Scribes, and the Ancients, with whom He sat daily teaching in the Temple and who, when He was crucified, wagged their heads and mocked Him and shouted: "He saved others; himself He cannot save" -- was it these who knew not what they did, and whom Our Lord asked the Father to forgive?
Saint Luke tells us clearly that Jesus said this of the Roman soldiers who "dividing his garments, cast lots." And Saint Matthew tells us that these same Romans, after Jesus expired on the Cross, cried out in one voice with their Centurion, "Indeed, this was the Son of God!".
2003-12-17 18:11 | User Profile
Jews are Christ-killers.
2003-12-17 19:45 | User Profile
Thanks, Perun. I've posted about holywar.org many times. It is a real refreshing change from the cowards and effeminates who run the Church today.
2003-12-18 13:44 | User Profile
God puts the blame on both Jews and Gentiles (Romans) in Acts 4:25-28 and as predicted in Psalm 2:2 about 1000 years before by David:
25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ. ( Psa 2:2)
27 [B]For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, [/B] 28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead because he threatened the Jewish establishment but their rabbinical court could not carry out capital punishment without permission of the Romans, because they ruled Palestine at that time. The Romans are guilty because they are the ones that actually physically killed Him because Pontius Pilate feared a riot and the Romans actually did the dirty work of killing him, using a Roman form of execution, a cross. It seems that things do not change, the Gentiles doing the dirty work of the Jews. Even though Jesus had Human Jewish lineage from Mary, He was also fully God and was doing the work of God, saving those whom God has elected from their sins by his once offering up of himself as a sacrifice to satisfy divine justice and reconcile them to God.
2003-12-18 20:00 | User Profile
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