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Thread ID: 11486 | Posts: 8 | Started: 2003-12-16
2003-12-16 02:45 | User Profile
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Dammit George, they gotta be SOMEWHERE!!
2003-12-16 04:30 | User Profile
Funny.
Even funnier will be just what "presentation" will be allowed when SH is finally put on trial. Can't have him mouthing about his former close ties with Uncle Sham, or Izzy's control over everything in the spiderweb that's centered in DC. It will be interesting to see what the public - or maybe the West - will be allowed to see and hear. Then again, the talking head tools will do their best to pooh pooh any untoward remarks about Izzy - and a phalanx of "stein" and "berg" experts will be on call to smooth things out in case something "bad" does manage to make it on CNN or FOX.
2003-12-16 17:44 | User Profile
I'm still convinced that SH will be "Jack Ruby'd" before he goes to trial.
Dan
2003-12-18 06:44 | User Profile
The fact that WMD were not found blows away all the Bush/Men in Black conspiracy stories.
If Bush and pals aren't even capable of planting some WMD in Iraq to find, how can they perpetrate other outlandish mass conspiracies?
2003-12-18 14:12 | User Profile
Investigators say Saddam flushed WMD stash down toilet seconds before capture Full-body cavity search yields hidden biological weapon.
[url]http://www.freepressed.com/saddam_flush.htm[/url]
Baghdad--Details of the former dictator's arrest reveal that in the final moments before a raid on his hideout, Saddam Hussein likely disposed of valuable evidence that would have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he possessed weapons of mass destruction.
After an extensive interrogation of the captured former dictator, weapons experts are convinced that they missed catching him red handed by mere seconds.
"Darn the luck," cursed David Kay, director of the Iraq Survey Group tasked with finding the WMD which supposedly justified the war. "Wouldn't you know it. The proof we were looking for went right down the shitter...no really, that's what happened."
A leaked transcript of Saddam's interrogation provided more insight into what transpired just before US and Iraqi troops made the high profile bust.
**"I was bagging up a kilo of anthrax when I saw the bushes rustling around through the window, and I was all, 'That's strange I don't have any bushes,'" a chatty Saddam Hussein told US interrogators.
"I just knew something was going down. I don't know how. Call me psycho. So I grabbed all of the anthrax, VX and botulinum toxin I had stockpiled in my compound and stuffed them into the toilet.
"After about the third flush I heard the door bust open and I was like, 'Dude!,' so I started scarfing down weaponized strains of influenza as fast as I could.
"It was a total bummer to waste all of that prime product. Do you know how much that stuff is worth on the black market, man?"**
Saddam's weapons production laboratory was crude but effective, capable of manufacturing thousands of doses a day. Despite the failure to find actual chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, US officials say large amounts of WMD paraphernalia were found at the site.
"We found vials, scales, aluminum tubes and radioactive black lights that suggest a weapons production program was either operational or could have been operational in a short period of time," Kay said.
Hussein explained that all of the equipment was purchased legally and can be used for various other purposes besides producing weapons of mass destruction.
Investigators argued that he could be convicted if it can be proven that he purchased those "dual use" items with the intent to use them for illegal purposes.
"Come on man. You can't be serious," Hussein protested. "If you're going to bust me for that you might as well make it illegal to own an aluminum can. I've seen dudes make them into centrifuges when nothing else was handy."
Officials noted also that neighborhood residents reported seeing Hussein pushing WMD on the street corner on numerous occasions.
Witness accounts indicate that Hussein dealt in large and small quantities of WMD, depending on demand. "Oh yeah, he was out there every night with his posse," said Zaheda Al Hamdi, who witnessed the transactions from her stoop. "He didn't care who they were, he'd sell it to anyone; Islamic extremists, Sunni separatists, small children. As long as they paid cash he didn't care."
Investigators said there was enough evidence at the scene and from witnesses' testimony to conduct the full-body cavity search.
Officials said the search produced some startling conclusions.
"During the anal cavity search of Mr. Hussein we encountered what can only be described as a biological weapon," Kay said, snickering. "Believe me. If he would have dropped that dirty bomb we would have had to evacuate the whole area."
2003-12-18 14:33 | User Profile
However funny (sad) that picture is, the sad truth is that the corrupt, depraved, lying, satanic US government and it's "in-bedded" media lapdogs can and will "produce" those WMD's that Saddam had all along, you see, oh, about, let's say, Sept 1, 2004. Just in time for moronic American lemmings to lap it all up like Pavlov's dogs and vote the truly evil regime of GW Bush back into office along with his demented cast of fanatical henchmen. That's when those damn, evil, WMD's will be found in Iraq. Don't believe it? This gov't and it's media can DO ANYTHING they want.
PS The Diane Sawyer staged interview with Bush the other night. She kept asking him about WMD's and where are they Mr. President?? Bush with his simian smirk says in response to her statement "they haven't been found"..... with [B]"not yet".[/B][snicker, snicker, smirk] Yeah, not until they can plant them. And people call me a conspiracy kook!!!
2003-12-18 15:33 | User Profile
Pretty funny.
Speaking of "nuclear weapons expert" David Kay, I understand that he is going back to the private sector. I reckon by NWO standards that he accomplished his mission in muddying the waters.
2003-12-18 21:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE]The fact that WMD were not found blows away all the Bush/Men in Black conspiracy stories.
If Bush and pals aren't even capable of planting some WMD in Iraq to find, how can they perpetrate other outlandish mass conspiracies?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn’t go that far. For instance, I’m reasonably certain that the 9-11 operation was executed with full knowledge and possible assistance by elements within the US government. The shorting of airline stock options on a large scale just prior to the takedown is conclusive enough.
How many were involved and what their rankings were within the governMENTAL apparatus is of no special importance, but it is doubtful that the nominal Commander-in-chief would have known anything. True, he is a politician and therefore a liar, though not nearly as adroit as some of his predecessors, but his personality and limited talent does not allow for a lie of this magnitude, even if plausible deniability were not an issue. (BTW, his being a liar is not a knock on the man or the profession but a concise description of the requisite trait.) Bush’s only function in the whole affair has been to be at the helm during the event, although the date was obviously scheduled with this in mind, if for no other reason than to extract the maximum political and military capital from the “Attack on America.” You know, someone with a suitably pliable personality with a penchant for “bottom line summaries,” perhaps even a “born again Christian” whose sense of right and wrong--and especially retribution--is certain to be proportionate (in the Biblical sense), and whose family has a history with the Husseins that is in dire need of accounting. Do not think that David Frum’s book, “The Right Man,” was mere platitude!
The lack WMDs, or the inability of the US to manufacture evidence, is not surprising. After having stated their raison d’etre for the invasion, any plant would have been readily exposed. Recall the flack received for merely trying to spin (clumsily, if I may say) the finding of “mobile chemical labs” into something untoward. Suffice to say that the same professionals were not involved. Also, it is foreign territory crawling with reporters, not all of which are bought, and intelligence services of world competitors. Leaving behind a pile of rubble and a weapon system, no matter what the stage of development, are two different things. The latter needs plausible developmental history, men of expertise, and sequence of transactions. Given that the US was a major supplier of Iraqi military hardware the choice of planting your own stuff is not an option, leaving only the grave risk of depositing something of foreign origins. Any attempt to do this would be jumped on by the foreign power so implicated, who would use the occasion to embarrass/wipe the floor with the US on the world stage at a time when it can least afford to do so.
There exists, I suspect, something like an unwritten code of conduct among sportsmen between the ruling members of world powers. Killing your own is no grave sin provided the slaughter is in your backyard and the operation is swift and clean, evidence wise. Transferring the blame to others, save designated scapegoats, is showing poor class, especially if they are member of the nuclear club and are in possession of equally embarrassing material.
Talk of conspiracy theories is best left to the likes of Internet dissidents, retired members of German cabinet, and US presidential frontrunners, the latter of which, incidentally, ought to know better than start yapping about something which is political oblivion territory, absence damming (i.e., confession type) proof. Evidently, you can get still get quite far in US politics despite lack of education pertaining to the validity of the “big lie” concept.