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2003-12-10 15:41 | User Profile
Ziocon Safire at it again- S
December 10, 2003 OP-ED COLUMNIST The Russian Reversion By WILLIAM SAFIRE
WASHINGTON ââ¬â By taking over the mass media and seizing the political opposition's source of funds, Vladimir Putin and his K.G.B. cohort have brought back one-party rule to Russia.
This week's corrupted Russian election put in place the siloviki ââ¬â the hot political word means "power" ââ¬â and paved the way for Putin's takeover next spring as president-for-life. Russia's short-lived experiment with democracy is all but dead.
The voting results tell only part of the story. Putin's party ââ¬â more a collection of government officials than an independent entity ââ¬â won half the seats in the Duma. The old Communist Party split in half, its rump faction now in Putin's camp. The nativists behind the wild Vladimir Zhirinovsky now also salute the siloviki.
What was left of the liberal opposition was creamed. Largely because the democratic reformers Grigory Yavlinsky, Boris Nemtsov and Anatoly Chubais could not unite, no party espousing democratic ideals could get the 5 percent of the vote needed to stay in the Duma. A siloviki commissar bid a sardonic farewell to the liberal reformists: "Their historical mission has been completed."
The reasons for the triumph of Putin's Kremlin powerhouse over the opposition that builds genuine democracy are two: money and media.
The money needed to organize parties and put up a campaign against an entrenched government came from an admittedly unsavory source: the rich oligarchs out to protect their ill-gotten fortunes from confiscation by the state. Putin drove many of them out of the country, and a month before the election jailed the biggest. This not only pleased most of the populace but starved the political opposition.
More important to the one-party takeover was iron control of major media. Once again we see that there can be no democracy without a rambunctious and unfettered press. Putin has made certain that media freedom no longer exists in his Russia. As a result, all that Russians see on television and read in major newspapers is cheering for the regime.
Dissidence is more subtly squelched than in the Communist era. Candidates for office who dare to speak out against Putin's rule are not exiled to the frozen wastes of Siberia ââ¬â merely frozen out of coverage in major markets. Opponents of the K.G.B. crowd are not given the martyrdom of the Gulag ââ¬â their voices are drowned out by the mass media, which have reverted to being vehicles for government propaganda.
When hundreds of outside observers reported abuses of power by Putin's men in controlling the election, and when the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe condemned "a regression in the democratization process," Putin claimed "free, honest, open and democratic" elections had been held. (In fact, the only expression of democracy was the low voter turnout.)
What is there to be done?
The Group of Eight industrial democracies should have no place for authoritarian Russia. France and Germany are now misled by elected leaders who are anti-American and hypocritical in trying to take over Europe, but they are democracies whose people are capable of changing administrations. Russia is demonstrating it is not.
So forget about turning to repressive Russia as a "bridge" to European votes in the U.N. And forget about enlisting Russian aid in bringing order to Iraq without crushing the hope of political freedom. As Putinism is developing ââ¬â repressive rule through money and media control ââ¬â it will be the last example Iraqis need.
We can be realistic in our dealings with the resurgent autocracy of Russia. Though its population is imploding (below half of the United States) and its new New Man is drinking the old vodka out of new bottles, it remains a nuclear power with imperialist pretensions on its "near abroad."
As Americans seek to export democracy, we should draw a clear lesson about power and freedom from the troubling success of the cult of Putin: concentration of power in media, as well as control of money in politics by a government in office, enables a political clique to concentrate its power. We have to resist that everywhere. Freedom finds safety in numbers; democracy does best by protecting diversity.
Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company.
When Putin first was elected I, like alot of a number of people didn't trust him because of his K.G.B. (2nd Chief Directorate) connections. I have modified my opinion for the better over the years. Recently, there have been a number of stories in the media about Putin and how he is a threat to the U.S. by people like Safire, Richard Perle, and the people who write for the Weekly Standard. Most of those complaining about Putin are either one of two things. They are either Zionists, or they are shabbos goys. The above column is just one more example of the latest ziocon offensive against Putin over an alleged concern about "democracy." This is nothing more than jewspek for what they are really mad about and that is that Putin by his actions seems determined to keep the Jews (like the ones of those failed parties above) from once again dominating Russia by going after the "oligarchs" that bought up state industry and in a C.F.R. influenced fire sale for next to nothing. It should also be noted that these oligarchs controlled the Russian media prior to Putin going after them for corruption. Of the seven oligarchs, five of them are Jews with a strong possibility that the six is also. To translate the above jewspeak into plain English what Safire is really mad about is that Putin is using their own methods against them and they don't like it for a minute as this example shows.
The reasons for the triumph of Putin's Kremlin powerhouse over the opposition that builds genuine democracy are two: money and media.
This paragraph below is too funny!
More important to the one-party takeover was iron control of major media. Once again we see that there can be no democracy without a rambunctious and unfettered press. Putin has made certain that media freedom no longer exists in his Russia. As a result, all that Russians see on television and read in major newspapers is cheering for the regime.
Damn! That sounds like "our" mainstream media over Bush and the War for Israel and Oil. Safire, I bet doesn't see the irony of how his writings could be applied to the U.S. media.
More jewspeak:
Freedom finds safety in numbers; democracy does best by protecting diversity.
Right, Bill.
Translation: Jews find safety by diluting the dominate culture by importing third worlders and setting everyone at everyone else's throats via divide and conquer tactics while posing as mediators only interested in "social justice" at the expense of the white majority by getting laws passed like "hate speech" laws that infringe on speaking the truth about the parasites above.
Good for Putin. I hope that he keeps at it.
2003-12-10 16:14 | User Profile
Sertorius, this issue with Putin isn't going to go away quickly either, at least not with the jewish parasites that control every aspect of American life and especially, of course, our media.
I couldn't even finish reading Safire's shilling hit piece on Putin. F*ck him and his wimp brigade of necon chickenhawk serpents. Reading of Safire's hot displeasure with Vladimir Putin's moves with Russia's media oligarchy was enough to make me feel sick to my stomach yet baffle me as to how a man can commit such monumental hypocrisy in the most sinister and evil ways......as you well pointed out Sert....
[COLOR=DarkRed]"More important to the one-party takeover was iron control of major media. Once again we see that there can be no democracy without a rambunctious and unfettered press. Putin has made certain that media freedom no longer exists in his Russia. As a result, all that Russians see on television and read in major newspapers is cheering for the regime."[/COLOR]
Ewwwwww, man, that stinks. Someone please flush the toilet.
Hail Putin!!
2003-12-10 16:47 | User Profile
Xmetalhead,
I share your contempt for this cretin. Hell, I'm still mad about this column. For more information about the "oligarchs," we can look at [url=http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j121003.html]Justin Raimondo's lastest column[/url] to see what a bunch of swindlers they are.
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Zionists like Safire never cease to amaze me with their nerve.
The Group of Eight industrial democracies should have no place for authoritarian Russia. France and Germany are now misled by elected leaders who are anti-American and hypocritical in trying to take over Europe, but they are democracies whose people are capable of changing administrations. Russia is demonstrating it is not.
Yes, it was Richard Perle of "Trireme" and Boeing fame that fired this shot first. I wonder just how much money Perle stands to lose from "investments" in Russia?
Safire is wrong in his comments about anti-Americanism. While there will be always people that hate the U.S. regardless of who is president, I believe most of those accused of anti-Americanism are really anti-Bush, anti-plutocrat and against his Israel First policies that put everyone at risk. Hypocritical? Safire is the poster boy of that with the self serving crap he has type out above.
So forget about turning to repressive Russia as a "bridge" to European votes in the U.N. And forget about enlisting Russian aid in bringing order to Iraq without crushing the hope of political freedom. As Putinism is developing ââ¬â repressive rule through money and media control ââ¬â it will be the last example Iraqis need.
Oh, no, more tikkum olam is just the chicken soup the Iraqis and everyone else they wish to dominate.
Safire and his tribe are once again trying to drag us into their problems due to their inability to get along with the rest of mankind. Because they hate those who either don't want to be controlled or refuse to be controlled they expect the rest of us to join them in their hatred in the same sort of disasterous crusades that was the 20th Century.
This next paragraph just drips with talmudic hatred for Russia.
We can be realistic in our dealings with the resurgent autocracy of Russia. Though its population is imploding (below half of the United States) and its new New Man is drinking the old vodka out of new bottles, it remains a nuclear power with imperialist pretensions on its "near abroad."
Hey Bill, going out of your way to insult them isn't going to help matters at all, but them again, this was written just to anger them while stirring up the idiotic flag wavers and other assorted tub thumpers. He is simply trying to poison the well of good will with the idea of starting another Cold War or worse.
They are still mad about Lev Bronstein.
One other thing, this business about the U.S. having more people is sickening when one realize that atleast 50 million of them are from the third world. That's that diversity that Safire is so fired up about.
What is there to be done?
I'd start by shipping your sorry ass to Israel where you belong. Warmonger over there.
2003-12-10 20:24 | User Profile
But-but-but, how can the Jews dominate yet another country [Russia] with 'nationalists' and their sympathizers running the government? Don't the Russian people know that the only acceptable form of government is one that is Jew-Approved??
That Putin victory smells like anti-Sandal-ism....er, anti-Sandwich-spread.....er....anti-Sandinista-ism....er....ya knows...
:shocking:
2003-12-12 13:01 | User Profile
Hi, Sert.
Safire makes me want to vomit, but what else is new?
As several of us have been saying here since Sam Francis days, the essence of Russian politics is the Slavic-Jewish struggle for dominance. Alexander Solzhenitsyn recently finished a two volume work on the history of this struggle called "200 Years Togeter" - not that Safire would ever mention that.
This is really at heart a struggle of the Russians against the Jews. It's more complicated than that, of course, because there are a lot more players, including the Chechens, the Tatars, the Armenians, and the Azeris, but in broad strokes Russian politics is all about ethnic rivalry and the central rivalry is the Slavs vs. the Jews.
My best guess is that President Putin leads a group of Russian nationalists in the Military-Industrial Complex, the KGB (now called the FSB), and Gazprom. The recent parliamentary elections were about his consolidation of power in alliance with the powerful regional Governors. I think that one of the main points our sock-puppet media ignores is this shoring up of power in the hands of the regional executives.
I would add that the Moscow Times published a troubling story recently (posted elsewhere on this forum) about how Gazprom ended most of the income stripping schemes based in Tel Aviv that cost the Russian treasury billions of dollars every year under Yeltsin (and cost many Russian pensioners early death), but that Uncle Shimon Mogilevich seems to still be operating a major scam that Putin's German-Russian representative in Gazprom, Alexei Miller, has been curiously unwilling to tackle. I truly hope and pray that President Putin is a Russian patriot, but I think the jury is still out on that one.
Walter
2003-12-12 14:22 | User Profile
Walter,
Please enlighten me about the regional governors and why they are so important here. Have you read Solzhenitsyn's book? I haven't seen it here yet. You have a grasp on what is going on over there better than all of our sock puppet media put together.
Like you, I have my fingers crossed about Putin in that he may turn out to be a Russian nationalist. So far, his actions and the reactions by Jews like Safire and Perle indicate that he is.
2003-12-12 16:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Walter,
Please enlighten me about the regional governors and why they are so important here. Have you read Solzhenitsyn's book? I haven't seen it here yet. You have a grasp on what is going on over there better than all of our sock puppet media put together.
Like you, I have my fingers crossed about Putin in that he may turn out to be a Russian nationalist. So far, his actions and the reactions by Jews like Safire and Perle indicate that he is.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your kind words.
I've perused Solzhenitsyn's book in Russian. I haven't had time to read the whole thing yet. It isn't available in English, at least as far as I know - it apears that "somebody" has decided that an English translation would be disruptive and despite Solzhenitsyn's fame his great opus is not being translated. It is available in French, or so I understand.
From what I've seen the book contains modest conclusions drawn from reasonable analyses based upon an objective and throughly researched statement of the historical facts, which is precisely why it's so dangerous. Like the Bell Curve, it is impossible to refute so it must be ignored.
Executive power in Russia always ruled, and it's that way now. Russian courts are weak and corrupt, as are the legislatures. Yeltsin crushed the Russian parliament in 1993 and established once again the overwhelming power of the state aparatus. That was the significance of those events 10 years ago, IMHO - Yelstin made the Presidency imperial and a power answering to none, and Berezovsky et. al. made the presidency Jewish. But I digress.
The Russian Federation consists in 80-odd "federation subjects", divided along historical and ethnic lines. There are, for example, ethnic republics like Ossetia (Alania), Chuvashia, Kalmykia, Komi, Tatarstan, Buryatia, Chukotka (Abramovich is governor of Chukotka) and so on, which encompass minority ethnic groups. The Russian areas are likewise divided into regions, usually based around key provicial cities and historical boundaries of the Tsarist "gubernia." Yaroslavl, Voronezh, Saratov, Samara, and the list goes on. The cities of Moscow and St. Petersberg enjoy the status of federal subject, as to their surrounding areas.
The governors of each of these federation subjects are elected by popular vote, and under the Russian Constitution have not only broad local powers but hold seats in the upper chamber of the Russian parliament, the Federation Council. It would be as if the governor of each American state was also a Senator.
The governors are extremely powerful, and they often rule their regions like fiefdoms. They generally control the local media, and have their finger in every local pie.
The governor or Primoriya (Validvostok) took power in the mid-1990's in a coup and proved to be utterly corrupt: he exported the regions coal to China while the people froze, openly sold fishing licenses to mafia interests,and stole the Russian eastern commercial fleet worth billions and billions of dollars, but despite bombs going off and big demonstrations nobody could do anything about it. Yelstin didn't feel powerful enough to challenge him directly, so ultimately they just promoted him to Minstery of Fisheries. There are many stories like that - the governor of Tatarstan is extremely powerful - he's a de facto king. The point is that the governors are tremendously powerful.
Putin seems to have made a deal with the governors, forming a de facto political party with them called United Russia. As to the implications of that, your guess is as good as mine, but I'll stick my neck out and say that Russia is settling down into a basically pro-Russian one party state with very cozy relationships all around. I'll stick my neck out even further and say that this is really bad news for the Jews and their interests in Russia as it unites the nationalist-Russian governors with the interests of the astonishingly wealthy kings of Gazprom and the armed might of the Russian police and miltary, and that Putin may feel emboldened now to move against the Jewish Mafia more openly. 2004 should prove whether our little theory is correct or not. If Putin moves against the remaining oligarchs in a big way (I suspect beginning with the egregious Anatoly Chubais), then Russia's future looks bright.
I don't doubt that there's an element of wishful thinking in that, but hope springs eternal, as they say.
Walter
2003-12-12 18:37 | User Profile
I've perused Solzhenitsyn's book in Russian. I haven't had time to read the whole thing. It isn't available in English, at least as far as I know - "somebody" has decided that an English translation would be disruptive and despite Solzhenitsyn's fame his great opus is not being translated. It is available in French, or so I understand.
I doubt that the German version will be of much help for you.
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2003-12-12 20:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jamestown]I doubt that the German version will be of much help for you.
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No, regretably I have no German.
Thanks for pointing out that it exists in German - I had no idea.
Amazing that no English translation exists. Frankly, it seems so counterintuitive - it surely would sell many, many copies without even trying. I can't help but suspect that I'm missing something.
That's about it.
2003-12-13 04:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]No, regretably I have no German.
Thanks for pointing out that it exists in German - I had no idea.
Amazing that no English translation exists. Frankly, it seems so counterintuitive - it surely would sell many, many copies without even trying. I can't help but suspect that I'm missing something.
That's about it.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps they don't want it to sell so many copies!. To protect zion. :yucky:
buggerzion
2003-12-13 06:45 | User Profile
Walter,
You're quite welcome. I appreciate the detailed answer.
I have another question for you. Can you give some background on Gazprom and how they fit in?
================================ Mad Russian,
Can you add anything to this?
2003-12-13 07:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Walter,
You're quite welcome. I appreciate the detailed answer.
I have another question for you. Can you give some background on Gazprom and how they fit in?
================================ Mad Russian,
Can you add anything to this?[/QUOTE]
GAZPROM is Russia's natural gas industry. It's the major supplier of natural gas to Europe, and the sole supplier to Russia and other countries. GAZPROM is one of the pillars of the world's economy. It is impossible to overstate its importance to Russia and indeed to Europe and the world.
Nobody knows how big GAZPROM is. It was a Soviet fiefdom, and it never kept accurate books. One of the Big 4 accounting firms (I forget which one) made a fortune spending the last 10 years trying to piece it all together. Depending on the price of natural gas, I've read valuations of GAZPROM's empire as high as $900 billion, but again nobody appears to know for certain.
GAZPROM was always an ethnic Russian thing. Jews were kept out of it, just as they were kept out of the military and the KGB beginning in 1937.
Under Yelstin former GAZPROM CEO (and Russian PM) Victor Chernomyrdin privatized a few percent of GAZPROM stock in an notoriously corrupt deal. This made Chernomyrdin and his protoge Vyakhirev and a few other key insiders among the richest men in the world overnight. It also placed them among the few non-Jewish oligarchs (the only other gentile oligarch I can think of is Alekperov, who is an Azeri).
GAZPROM pays an astonishingly high percentage of the Russian state budget - I forget the exact figure, but it's something like 20%. And of course this is in the face of massive tax evasion and income stripping, at least historically speaking. GAZPROM is thus joined at the hip with the Russian government - what's good for GAZPROM is good for Russia. It is the paymaster of the military and the FSB, and without it Russia's economy would likely collapse.
The Jewish oligarchs didn't get to take over GAZPROM, which remains an overwhelmingly state-owned enterprise. Germany's Ruhrgas is the major non-state stockholder, and this is an extremely crucial economic link between Russia and the heart of the EU's economy. However, under Yeltsin, as alluded to above, the Jewish Mafia did manage to divert many of GAZPROM's income streams to Tel Aviv, and this I can only assume was the cause of considerable consternation in the Ruhr valley.
When Putin took over he inherited a real mess that, given GAZPROM's importance to both Russia and Europe, was a major threat to national security. He engineered the removal of the astonishingly corrupt Vyakhirev and repalced him with a very young friend of his from St. Petersberg named Alexei Miller, who is a Russian of German ancestry. The symbolism is unmistakable, IMHO. Putin speaks German fluently and is reputed to be a terrible Germanophile, and placing a German-Russian in charge of GAZPROM was a warning to the Jewish Mafia as well as an assurance to Ruhrgas.
Putin did a similar symbolic move in the fight with Gusinsky, when he replaced Gusinsky as head of the Media Most media empire (including NTV) with Boris Jordan, the American scoin of White Emigre (and devoutly Orthodox) monarchists.
Putin has a talent for these sort of symbolic gestures, just as our media have a talent for ignoring the obvious.
Anyway, that's my down-and-dirty take on GAZPROM.
I think that Chubais is next on Putin's sh*t list. He broke the unwritten rule for oligarchs to stay the hell out of politics. Putin engineered his party's removal from the Duma and I think we might be looking at Chubais's removal as head of Russian electrical monopoly UES in 2004.
Stay tuned, this should get interesting.
Walter
2003-12-13 17:11 | User Profile
Thanks, jamestown, I will give the German version a try. It will be slow going, but I need a challenge to get me to spend some time improving my German skills.
Have you read Ernst Nolte's works, which also remain unavailable in English?
2003-12-13 18:03 | User Profile
Walter,
Thankyou again and simply superb.
I can bet that I will stay tuned to these developments. The business about Putin and Miller struck me the same way. It is symbolic and I also think that it is a warning. Bismarck is probably grinning over this one. Just think, if Putin does turn out to be a nationalist who is determined to make sure the Jews never do to Russia what they did in the past and succeeds, he'll be sitting pretty. Here is a nation that is self sufficent in resources, resources that other nations are dependent upon and therefore can't be blackmailed by the usual suspects.
2003-12-13 18:16 | User Profile
Walter -- thanks for sharing your knowledge and insights.
2003-12-13 19:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Walter,
Thankyou again and simply superb.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Sert and mwdallas.
There's a program on NTV now called Post Scriptum which ran a piece today (I get it on satellite service) about how the West reacted negatively to last week's elections because "their people didn't win" (Nemtsov, Yavlinsky and Chubais) followed closely by a thing on the amazing career of Abramovich and how he still has a finger in every pie, having surivived even Berezovsky and Gusinsky. Oh, and then they had an interview with Solzhenitsyn's wife. I mean, you don't have to be a Fellini to catch the subtext.
It's just all seems so obvious, at least to me.
Anyway, as I've said, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Chubais is next. He was interviewed last week at a polling station as it was becoming clear that his Union of Right Forces and Yabloko were fehrshtuppen, as a German colleague of mine would put it - he looked pretty shaken up. I think he senses that Putin smells blood.
We shall see.
Walter
2003-12-13 19:49 | User Profile
It's probably not so obvious to the people on the street in Russia. Because Jews become obvious enemies only for the people in positions of more power. On lower level, it's probably more about thugs from Chechnya and other dusky people.
Overall, people in the US are more aware of the race/ethnicity because of the greater divershitty, but the sociopolitical climate is much more pc in the US.
2003-12-13 22:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Xmetalhead, Safire is wrong in his comments about anti-Americanism. While there will be always people that hate the U.S. regardless of who is president, I believe most of those accused of anti-Americanism are really anti-Bush, anti-plutocrat and against his Israel First policies that put everyone at risk. Hypocritical? Safire is the poster boy of that with the self serving crap he has type out above. [/QUOTE]
You are quite right in all but one respect. It is not just anti-Bushism. We can see that no matter whom you elect, the USA will continue to be the servant of Israel. We have a similar problem in Europe with our own so-called 'democracies'. The politicians are subservient to dirty Juzi money and lying Juzi media. But the europublik in general knows the Juzis a little better than the average John Doe and is ever so slightly less impressed with politicians and pro-Juzi media bias. And we don't suffer from the mass social disease known as Millenial Dispensationalism (aka 'born-again fruitcakery'). The root cause of that was King Charles of England letting Cotton Mather and his neo-Juzi followers out of the dungeon into which he had thrown them. They jumped bail (you didn't know that, did you?) and went off to infect an entire continent with the fruitcake gene. :hitler:
2003-12-14 02:34 | User Profile
Eurotrash,
Perhaps King Charles was hoping that Cromwell and his type would follow Cotton and leave England!
2003-12-14 14:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]Thanks, jamestown, I will give the German version a try. It will be slow going, but I need a challenge to get me to spend some time improving my German skills.
Have you read Ernst Nolte's works, which also remain unavailable in English?[/QUOTE]
Please free up some space in your PM folder - I need to ask you something.
Walter
2003-12-14 14:29 | User Profile
The thread mentioned above about GAZPROM and Uncle Shimon Mogilevich is [URL=http://forums.originaldissent.com/showthread.php?t=11285]HERE.[/URL]
Madrussian posted a great mugshot of Uncle Shimon, it's a must-see.
Walter
2003-12-14 17:48 | User Profile
Walter,
That is interesting. What effect do you think this will have on the elections? Or have the elections changed whatever effect this scandal may have?
Second string neo-con George Will has weighed in on the elections. The excerpt below came from today's column. The column was obstensibly about "democracy" in N. Ireland and Russia. I have edited out the stuff on N. Ireland because I don't think for a minute that Will gives a hoot about N. Ireland. I do think he cares about the events in Russia and Zionists. I have interspersed my own comments in this column.
In Russia, a bastardized mockery of democracy has produced the marginalization -- actually, the annihilation -- of the moderates. (Jewish plutocrats and their strap hangers) After the elections to Russia's parliament, a senior adviser to the real winner, President Vladimir Putin, used a familiar Marxist trope in reading out of history the two pro-Western parties that failed to win any seats. They should, he said, "be calm about it and realize that their historical mission has been completed."
One reason they have been, in Trotsky's words, consigned to the dustbin of history is that Putin, who trained for democracy in the Soviet KGB, (could we say that Begin trained for "democracy" in the terrorist Irgun gang?) is using "managed democracy" to concoct a meretricious legitimacy for lawless authoritarianism. In a post-election statement, Putin blandly promised to correct "shortcomings" in the election. They include his measures suffocating independent media, (Jewish controlled) controlling political communication from urban billboards to broadcasting, and jailing the richest Russian (Jewish plutocrat and thief) on the eve of the election. Optimists are construing his statement that Russia's constitution is "the basis of stability" as a promise not to repeal the two-term limit on the presidency. Do not bet on that.
Putinism is uprooting the shallow seedlings of democracy across Russia's 11 time zones. Putinism is becoming a toxic brew of nationalism directed against neighboring nations, and populist envy, backed by assaults of state power, directed against private wealth. Putinism is a national socialism without the demonic element of its pioneer who, 70 years ago this year, used plebiscitary democracy to acquire the power to extinguish German democracy. There probably are not enough Jews remaining in Russia to make anti-Semitism a useful component of Putinism. But do not bet on that either.
No, but there are enough left to seize control over a sizable amount of the economy. At this point, Will rambles one about antisemitism in France and so on, which is why I don't think he gives a damn about N. Ireland, only promoting plutocratic and zionist interests, the purpose of this column in the first place.
Nice how Will tries to make Putin the new Hitler. I believe that this is a new step for them, as I haven't seen "Putinism" used much before. We'll see more of this from the neo-con media, along with attempts to make him out to be another Hitler. My question for Will is this, what to do? Regime change perhaps? Then let him and his friends go over there and try it. The Cold War for me and other sane people ended years ago and I have no desire to see him and his allies start another one over some Jewish criminals.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61277-2003Dec12.html]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61277-2003Dec12.html[/url]
2003-12-14 21:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Putinism is a national socialism without the demonic element of its pioneer who, 70 years ago this year, used plebiscitary democracy to acquire the power to extinguish German democracy. There probably are not enough Jews remaining in Russia to make anti-Semitism a useful component of Putinism. But do not bet on that either. [/QUOTE]
Wow. The masks are coming off. I'm stunned by this, great post.
Note well Will's sly reference to the Jewish Neo-Con's national hero, Leon Trotsky. Will knows who's paying the bills.
Walter
2003-12-14 23:25 | User Profile
Walter,
I figured you'd get a kick out of this column.
Note well Will's sly reference to the Jewish Neo-Con's national hero, Leon Trotsky. Will knows who's paying the bills.
My thoughts exactly. Who says that George doesn't know which side of his bagel the smear of cream cheese goes on! :lol:
2003-12-15 16:59 | User Profile
Another article on this subject with my comments in bold -S
Bush Changing Views on Putin Administration That Hailed Russian Leader Alters Course By Peter Slevin and Peter Baker Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, December 14, 2003; Page A26
President Bush, who publicly credited Russian President Vladimir Putin just 10 weeks ago for promoting freedom and democracy, has protested to the Russian leader since then for moving in the opposite direction, according to senior U.S. officials.
Bush and his foreign policy team have begun to question Putin's intentions -- and their own approach -- after the abrupt imprisonment of [u]Russian oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky[/u] and parliamentary elections derided by European monitors as an unfair government-orchestrated triumph.
Khodorkovsky is about as much a Russian as I am a rabbi!
"Suddenly a real debate has emerged, first on the margins in Washington and then within the administration," said Michael McFaul, a Russia scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace who keeps in close touch with policymakers. "Earlier assumptions about Putin are now being reassessed."
Yes, it appears that Putin isn't a corrupt third world dictator that can be bribed by the gurus of Wall Street and they are mad about that. It's hell when someone decides to be his own boss instead of taking orders to hand over his nation to criminals.
At this point the shift on Putin carries minimal practical weight. Confronted with Putin's campaign against the independent news media, his targeting of influential businessmen and his brutal war for control of Chechnya, Bush has confined his response to expressions of displeasure, officials said.
I read the first two to mean Jews. As for Chechnya, that is their business. I thought the neo-cons wanted a war against all Muslims, but I guess that some Muslims are "our bastards" while others are not.
Bush's caution combines uncertainty about Putin's ultimate direction with a lingering hope that his rhetoric about democracy and the rule of law may one day prove true, officials and analysts said. With Putin at his side at his Camp David retreat in September, Bush said "I respect President Putin's vision for Russia." It also signals a desire to avoid alienating Russia when the United States wants help on such matters as counterterrorism, Iraqi debt and worrisome nuclear programs in Iran and North Korea.
"There's a challenge here. We want to talk to the Russians and encourage their cooperation on areas where they want to cooperate," said a senior State Department official. He added that the administration intends to find ways to raise "the democracy question, the Chechnya question, the rule of law question."
Administration officials say Bush, in recent telephone conversations with Putin, has raised complaints about evidence that Putin has fallen far short of his promises to deliver pluralism and a fair legal system.
Seems to me that Putin is attempting to enforce the laws against theft and corruption.
The debate over the United States' relationship with Russia had been largely dormant in administration circles since Bush famously said after meeting Putin in June 2001 that he had gotten "a sense of his soul." When Russia unreservedly joined the U.S.-led war against terrorism a few months later, the relationship seemed sealed.
Perhaps Bush thought that Putin would be as much a cipher as he is.
But a series of strong moves by Putin this year raised fresh doubts. The Bush administration was startled when Putin sided with France and Germany in actively opposing the invasion of Iraq. Then the Russian government shut the last major independent (sic) television network in June.
In early October, it manipulated a presidential election in Chechnya and a few weeks later arrested Khodorkovsky, Russia's richest man and principal shareholder in oil giant Yukos. Then came Duma elections on Dec. 7, when Putin's government, which controlled Russian media, also boosted the campaigns of its favorites. The election was termed a "regression in the democratization process" by monitors for the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The Bush administration publicly agreed.
"We're certainly seeing some more worrisome signs about the direction that Putin is taking the country in terms of civil society. And, of course, there have been some ups and downs on Russian foreign policy," a senior U.S. diplomat said in Moscow. Policymakers are closely watching how Putin uses his now-undisputed hammerlock over the Duma and his alliance with two nationalist parties that captured one out of every five votes Sunday.
So much for "democracy!
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is among a small group of politicians and analysts who have openly challenged the administration to be tougher with Putin. McCain spoke of "a creeping coup against the forces of democracy and market capitalism" and asserted that "it's time to face unpleasant facts about Russia."
Count on John McCain to act as as the waterboy for the N.W.O. gang. This sort of thinking below can be found in the Weekly Standard and other neo-con publications.
The "unpleasant" fact for them being that it appears the Putin is trying to place Russia's destiny in Russian hands instead of the real "axis of evil" of Zionism and C.F.R. type plutocracy.**
"The new authoritarianism in Russia is more than a test of America's ability to defend universal values that have taken shallow root since the Soviet empire collapsed. It presents a fundamental challenge to American interests across Eurasia," McCain said on the Senate floor.
It is not our job to defend "universal values," whatever the hell those are.
The emerging U.S. relationship with Russia is taking on some traits of U.S.-China relations, where presidential administrations with few exceptions have tended to look past policies that diminished civil rights and freedom to preserve a positive working relationship. Apart from one year during the Clinton administration, China's poor human rights record has not been linked explicitly to the broader agenda.
Last week's visit to Washington by Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao illustrated the approach, according to many analysts. Bush, with Wen next to him in the Oval Office, warned the leaders of Taiwan not to take unilateral steps that might provoke the government of mainland China. The comment came when Bush was asked about Taiwan's plans to hold a referendum calling on China to remove missiles aimed at the island, which has angered China.
Bush's comments infuriated U.S. neoconservatives and other Taiwan supporters who accused him of hypocrisy -- and undermining democratic Taiwan -- while he demands greater human freedoms in the Middle East.
"I think they will increasingly do with Russia what they are now doing with the China account, where relations with Taiwan, doing something about North Korea and managing the trade surplus are front and center," said Coit Blacker, a Stanford University professor and Clinton administration policy adviser. "You say good things about one another. You don't tear each other down. In other venues and other times, you go to those more sensitive issues."
In foreign policy, Russia has continued to work more closely with the United States on the biggest issues, particularly in applying joint diplomatic pressure on Iran and North Korea. And yet Russia has also been taking a more muscular stance toward U.S. involvement in its own neighborhood, particularly Moldova, Georgia and Central Asia.
Russia recently opened a military base in the Central Asian republic of Kyrgyzstan, just miles from a U.S.-operated base used to support the war in Afghanistan. Moscow bristled at what it considers American interference in Moldova, where a Russian-brokered deal to resolve a long-standing separatist dispute in Transdniestr recently fell apart.
And Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov accused the United States last week of secretly helping to orchestrate the ouster of Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze, naming U.S. Ambassador Richard M. Miles as the main agent. Ivanov traveled to Tbilisi last month to mediate between Shevardnadze and the opposition forces that ultimately pushed him out.
Inside the Bush administration, some longtime Russia watchers, including U.S. Ambassador Alexander Vershbow, have been pressing for a toughened U.S. policy. Meanwhile, an emerging debate within Republican circles spilled into the open after Khodorkovsky's Oct. 25 arrest. He was charged with tax evasion and fraud, but Putin critics and Bush administration officials view the case as a Kremlin-orchestrated political attack on a powerful business figure who has presented himself as a reformer.
Richard Perle, an influential Pentagon adviser, said Russia should be thrown out of the G-8, the club of the world's biggest industrialized nations. In an October interview with The Washington Post, Perle said the administration should take a tougher line with Putin and ban Russia from receiving reconstruction contracts in Iraq. Bush officially denied access to contracts Dec. 5.
Perle is the one who got this ball rolling. Previously, they carped about Gusinsky and Berezovsky, but when Putin went after Khodorkovsky, they really went nuts.
Bush, who raised his concerns to Putin about Russia's commitment to the rule of law after Khodorkovsky's arrest, made clear his frustration with the Duma campaign in a conversation last week, a State Department official said. In the same conversation, however, he asked for Russia's help in reducing Iraq's $120 billion debt.
U.S. officials say they have little leverage, but hope to deter Putin, a former KGB officer, from misusing his authority with warnings that such action could hinder needed foreign investment, limit opportunities for U.S. collaboration and weaken Russia's chances for membership in the World Trade Organization.
I hope Putin tells them that they can take their W.T.O. with its sovereignty destroying provision and go to the devil. The foreign investment simply comes with too many strings attached and will only lead back to the sort of '90s style plundering that resulted in creatures like the "oligarchs." (Jews)
"We expected more," said a senior administration official frustrated with the Duma campaign. "You expect countries in a post-communist transition to make progress, for God's sake."
Baker reported from Moscow.
é 2003 The Washington Post Company
It depends on what you mean by "progress." To me, Putin is doing well in his attempts to remove this lamprey from his nation. I think that the plutocrats will have a difficult time in subordinating this nation. Despite the fact they need money I don't think they need it that bad to whore themselves to the likes of Perle. The material provided by Walter Yannis shows the Russians hold some good cards as well.
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