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'Gay' men as the straight man's messiah?

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skemper [OP]

2003-12-08 21:28 | User Profile

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Here is advice for Straight White Men from a "Rabbi".

'Gay' men as the straight man's messiah?

My radio producer volunteered me as a subject for "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy." I doubt I'll go through with outing myself on national television as an unprocessed hillbilly, but I am intrigued by gay men having become the straight man's "messiah."

"Queer Eye" is based on the premise that heterosexual men are today's coarse savages who need their chest and back hair (wait, isn't that a rug?) waxed. Bad-mannered brutes and barbarians with apartments that look like Beirut. Unlettered in stylishness, unschooled in being gentlemen, they need to be rescued from their boorishness by the guys they used to give wedgies to in the locker room.

In one recent episode, the Fab Five poured into the home of a quiet cowboy with two brain cells and one eyebrow. His apartment looked like a barn and smelled like a stable. His five-o'clock shadow made him the twin of Uday Hussein. He planned to propose to his live-in girlfriend.

The Fab Five made it clear that in his primitive condition only a she-wolf in heat would agree to marry him. So they plucked his eyebrow and taught him how to make chocolate mousse. Presto. "And on the sixth day, the Fab Five created man."

As I watched this clueless cowboy being taught how to clean up after himself, dig wax out of his ears, and speak romantically to a woman rather than his horse, it suddenly struck me that this is exactly what the women in my life did for me.

My mother taught me how to tuck my shirt in and how to keep my room tidy. If I used foul language, she'd wash my mouth out with soap.

My wife taught me how to act like a gentleman, especially in the presence of a lady. If I ate with my mouth open, she would gently rebuke me. Before I gave a public speech, she'd straighten my tie and take the lint off my jacket. And because her face lit up when I bought her flowers, she taught me chivalry and the power of the romantic gesture.

But how can women teach men these things today?

Raised in a world where they get attention by flashing a thong strap rather than a kind smile, immersed in a workplace where masculine aggression rather than feminine sensitivity earns a promotion, there are precious few ladies left.

And in a world where there are no ladies, there can be no gentlemen.

Honestly, what can a college girl who flashes her breasts for the "Girls Gone Wild" videos teach a man about civility? What can a woman who prances around in her underwear on the "Victoria's Secret Fashion Show" teach a guy about dignified bearing?

Men no longer believe that women have class. And while they date them and bed them, fat chance they're going to be preached to by them about not belching. Reality TV and the Internet package women in four foul stereotypes: 1) the greedy gold-digger; 2) the brainless bimbo; 3) the publicity-seeking prostitute; 4) the bitchy backstabber.

In a world of such rampant misogyny, where women have become complicit in their own degradation, they can have little positive influence over men. It has therefore fallen to the last feminine, nurturing spirits in our society – gay men – to teach the straight men the basics of elegance, refinement ... even the importance of marriage! While the straight guys hyperventilate whenever their girlfriends mention the very word, the gay guys are fighting in the courts to tie the knot.

I have long said that the perfect couple would be a gay man and a straight woman, who marry and raise boys and girls to be both refined and nurturing. "Straight Tie (tie-the-knot) for the Gay Guy"? But the next best thing is for women to reclaim the civilizing role they've abdicated. After all, the Straight Guys on the show are motivated to clean up for the women in their lives. The least the women can do is to show them the way.


Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is the best-selling author of 14 books. Recently named by Talkers magazine as one of American’s 100 most important talk-radio hosts, his newest book is "The Private Adam: Becoming a Hero in a Selfish Age" (HarperCollins).


Lewis Wetzel

2003-12-08 22:13 | User Profile

Here's the best take yet on the "Queer Eye" phenomenon:

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weisbrot

2003-12-09 06:22 | User Profile

[IMG]http://209.17.95.115/images/ShmuleyBoteach.jpg[/IMG]


Texas Dissident

2003-12-09 07:21 | User Profile

Is this guy homophobic or what?


skemper

2003-12-09 13:48 | User Profile

I did not have time to write my opinion when I posted this. I just find it queer ( pun intended) that a Rabbi wrote a piece blaming white women for the downfall of the straight white guy and then claiming that his Jewish mother was a role model and taught him manners. Now where was his Jewish father? Women alone are not responsible for bad children. Civilizing come from both parents, not just the mother. A boy cannot use his mother fully as a role model because where does he learn to be both civilized and masculine? A woman cannot teach masculinity. Since this Jew does not cite his father as having any part of his upbringing, then we can conclude that he is not too masculine. And what about personal responsibility? These crude men and women that he describes know that they are doing wrong but don't have to take responsibility for themselves because they are not held accountable and instead blame others, like their white mothers, as this Rabbi suggests. A gay man and a straight white woman as the ultimate couple? This is the Jew dream.

I thought Franco would love this piece.


Angler

2003-12-09 16:37 | User Profile

Shmuley Boteach! Is that really that Rabbi's name? :lol:


Edana

2003-12-09 17:23 | User Profile

Now where was his Jewish father? Women alone are not responsible for bad children. Civilizing come from both parents, not just the mother. A boy cannot use his mother fully as a role model because where does he learn to be both civilized and masculine? A woman cannot teach masculinity.

Without an active father to teach his sons, the boy's gonna learn from TeeVee. From TeeVee, we learn that the way to be "manly" is to be a perpetual boy.


heritagelost

2003-12-09 20:31 | User Profile

It's true, most women and men today have no class or integrity whatesoever!


Edana

2003-12-09 22:03 | User Profile

It has therefore fallen to the last feminine, nurturing spirits in our society – gay men – to teach the straight men the basics of elegance, refinement ... even the importance of marriage! While the straight guys hyperventilate whenever their girlfriends mention the very word, the gay guys are fighting in the courts to tie the knot.

Here's some BS. Gay men are not feminine and nuturing. They're just boyish, perpetual adolescents. And they are also more promisuous and less commiting than even the modern straight male, regardless of all the symbolic political posturing.

Whoever wrote this sounds like he doesn't know much about gay men.


Robbie

2003-12-12 03:28 | User Profile

[QUOTE=skemper]Reality TV and the Internet package women in four foul stereotypes: 1) the greedy gold-digger; 2) the brainless bimbo; 3) the publicity-seeking prostitute; 4) the bitchy backstabber. [/QUOTE]

Of course the rabbi fails to mention the fact that it was his own people who created those female caricatures we (especially goyettes) take for granted. And then he says the world is full of rampant misogyny. Vat a classic chutzpahed mensch!