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Bardamu [OP]

2003-11-26 22:01 | User Profile

[I]Surprise, surprise, Abrams replaces Buchanan[/I]

MSNBC Cancels 'Buchanan & Press' Associated Press

NEW YORK - Former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan has lost his regular perch on MSNBC.

The news network said Tuesday that it was canceling the political talk show, "Buchanan & Press," which paired two CNN "Crossfire" alumni in Buchanan and Bill Press.

Both men will continue to be contributors to MSNBC, said Erik Sorenson, the network's president.

[B]Legal correspondent Dan Abrams' "The Abrams Report" will move from prime time to fill the 6 p.m. Eastern slot that "Buchanan & Press" occupied.[/B] Abrams' show will repeat at 9 p.m. until a replacement is found early next year.

[url]http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/7348649.htm[/url]


Okiereddust

2003-11-26 22:15 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Bardamu][I]Surprise, surprise, Abrams replaces Buchanan[/I]

MSNBC Cancels 'Buchanan & Press' Associated Press

NEW YORK - Former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan has lost his regular perch on MSNBC.

The news network said Tuesday that it was canceling the political talk show, "Buchanan & Press," which paired two CNN "Crossfire" alumni in Buchanan and Bill Press.

Both men will continue to be contributors to MSNBC, said Erik Sorenson, the network's president.

[B]Legal correspondent Dan Abrams' "The Abrams Report" will move from prime time to fill the 6 p.m. Eastern slot that "Buchanan & Press" occupied.[/B] Abrams' show will repeat at 9 p.m. until a replacement is found early next year.

[url]http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/7348649.htm[/url][/QUOTE] Too bad Triskelion isn't around to applaud. Guess the VNNers won't have Pat to kick around any more.

Seriously, I am curious what the likes of Linder et. al and the rest who would never be caught dead saying anything good about any paleoconservative will have to say.


Franco

2003-11-26 22:19 | User Profile

"Abrams"......"Abrams".......uhhhh, lemme take a guess: Catholic??? Baptist??

:jester:

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Bardamu

2003-11-26 22:22 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Franco]"Abrams"......"Abrams".......uhhhh, lemme take a guess: Catholic???

:jester:[/QUOTE]

Quaker isn't it?


Bardamu

2003-11-26 22:25 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Okiereddust]

Seriously, I am curious what the likes of Linder et. al and the rest who would never be caught dead saying anything good about any paleoconservative will have to say.[/QUOTE]

I think you give this alleged grudge match more credence than it actually has. I certainly didn't post the article to gloat.


Robbie

2003-11-26 22:25 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Bardamu]Quaker isn't it?[/QUOTE]

No, I think he belongs to the Church of the Nazarene.


Recluse

2003-11-26 22:41 | User Profile

Not a huge loss, IMO. I just saw him get his ass kicked yesterday in a debate with RFK Jr. about immigration being an environmental problem. Kennedy basically said that the solution to that is to find a way to end White Flight and push everyone into the cities and Buchanan was mute. I would have pointed out that forcing Whites to live with muds was a hate crime bordering on genocide. I'll post a transcript if I can find it.


Smedley Butler

2003-11-26 22:59 | User Profile

I wrote Pukecannon in 2000, asking for my money back, because he truly betrayed his contributor's through 1999 and in to the fall. All of U.S. who cared, dug too deep in too their pockets that Fall of 99..By spring of 2000, I had fully removed the smoke and mirror's of U.S./Western Politic's b.s. forever. Any pol, that does not deal with our genocide and open borders cost is a criminal. They had the nerve to send me copies of the Conservative Mag, to me. I wrote them not to send the false flag mag, anymore. P.S. no I never got any money back....


Smedley Butler

2003-11-26 23:10 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Robbie]No, I think he belongs to the Church of the Nazarene.[/QUOTE] The Nazarene Church, where I live has member's handing out reprint's of an ariticle by one of their CA.preacher's blasting any one who dare's to say a word against inter racial marriage's, as anti Christian with their choice of scripture to back their view. As for interacial marriage's W.N. are only wanting honest infomation put out as to why it is not good for ANY ONE or Nation to have inter-racial relationships. Thanks to flat out criminal control system and media this is the reason for it. see [url]www.deliberatedumbingdown.com[/url] see the Author's bio at least.. I have seen so called good ole boyz, who are basically unread mentally lazy TV stuffed heads, turn on 180 degree's when one of their children married a NON white. I mean they became anti white.. Empty heads can be filled with feces for sure.. No foundation of history and culture for our people is akin to sinking in to the mud......


madrussian

2003-11-26 23:18 | User Profile

They must eventually live up to their name "One-eyed Jew", literally.

Notice the Middle-Eastern looking Abrams on the left, and his bleached more white-appealing official version on the right:

[img]http://www.fate.nu/dan/header.psd.jpg[/img]


JAT

2003-11-27 02:18 | User Profile

In the photo on the right, have a look at the nose. It looks as though its tip may have nearly touched the camera's lens.


Okiereddust

2003-11-27 06:48 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Bardamu]I think you give this alleged grudge match more credence than it actually has. I certainly didn't post the article to gloat.[/QUOTE]Youcertainly didn't, I know. Along with probably 95% of the VNNers, who know, whoever imperfect Pat is, its good not to leave the airwaves 100% in the powers of the Abrams' or Kristol's of the world.

Its just a pity I never got anything like this from the leadership. But I'll wait and see what they say, although frankly, at this point in the game, praise might be counterproductive, as the main people likely to hear putative Linder words of praise are the neocons and leftists.


il ragno

2003-11-27 07:20 | User Profile

[I]Still [/I] at it, eh, Okie? Don't worry, one of these days you'll convince the other 99% of us [U]we[/U] were the ones who had it wrong all along.

I can tell you the deep dark evil hidden reason MSNBC yanked Pat's plug, and that reason is [I]nobody was watching the damn show. [/I] (It's not like this is unheard of at MSNBC, where 'a viewing audience' continues to be an unsubstantiated rumor.) And anyway the only times I've seen Pat remotely sounding like Pat have been guest appearances on other people's shows, anyway - his BUCHANAN & PRESS gig was a half-hearted dilution of CROSSFIRE into a pseudo-edgy national affairs talkfest growing more tapioca with each passing year.

For as much as we dump on FoxNews, somebody should be noting that MSNBC was never [I]less [/I] insulting, it was just insulting in a bland, Ken-and-Barbie-doll staffed, [I]simulacrum of a real news network [/I] manner.

No matter how much cacophony and muttered Yiddish is audible from [I]outside[/I] the henhouse, MSNBC staff can always be counted on to soothe the public with a reassuring [I]"nobody in here but us chickens!"[/I]

I knew the network's days were numbered when eye-candy anchordoll Ashley Banfield adopted the strategy - about a year or so into her tenure - of wearing glasses on-camera in a purely cosmetic attempt to appear...uhhh...."smart" and "professional". This is something that you'd expect Stallone or Adam Sandler to do (and be ridiculed for).

Watching this made me not only nostalgic for middle-aged, untelegenic news readers like Chet Huntley and Harry Reasoner but left me wondering- if America's next ridiculous fashion trend among the status-hungry were the return of Renaissance garb for the elites....how long before you'd turn on the news and see Tom Brokaw in a plumed hat and high-boy collar reading the day's Pentagon press releases from Iraq?


Recluse

2003-11-27 12:50 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Recluse]Not a huge loss, IMO. I just saw him get his ass kicked yesterday in a debate with RFK Jr. about immigration being an environmental problem. Kennedy basically said that the solution to that is to find a way to end White Flight and push everyone into the cities and Buchanan was mute. I would have pointed out that forcing Whites to live with muds was a hate crime bordering on genocide. I'll post a transcript if I can find it.[/QUOTE]

Here's the exchange between Buchanan and Kennedy. Buchanan should have never let this part of the show end without challenging Kennedy's radical anti-White social engineering. You cannot depend on the lemmings to figure this stuff out for themselves, you have to staple it to the end of a two by four and hit them in the face with it, and Pat shouldn't have raised this issue if he wasn't prepared to give this extremist lunatic the back of his hand.

BUCHANAN: . Robert, look, the one-people are the problem with regard to the environment. People and their building and all the rest and we all know that and we try to preserve the environment. We now have our immigration situation that brings in a million and a half people a year legal and illegal immigrants. We’re going to have not 280 million people, but 400 million people by mid-century and maybe 700 million people by the end of the century. Shouldn’t there be reasonable controls of immigration if you want to preserve anything in the environment? KENNEDY: Well, clearly growing population are going to put enormous stress on our environment, but it really is a side issue, Pat. We could accommodate many, many more people in this country if we used our resources intelligently, if we directed growth back into the cities instead of subsidizing developers to colonize our landscape, to destroy our forests. We have technologies now, and we have the technological capacity to solve almost all of our major environmental problems. We just don’t have the vision in our leadership to-and the political will to get us from here to there.

[url]http://www.msnbc.com/news/998356.asp[/url]


Recluse

2003-11-27 14:12 | User Profile

On a side note, we need to put a label on Kennedy's nasty little scheme, to make it easier to dismiss when it comes up in the future. Something like the "Providing Prey for Predators Act , A Measure Designed to Deal With the Acute Shortage of White Victims in Our Nation's Inner Cities." :wacko:


Smedley Butler

2003-11-27 20:55 | User Profile

Folks, this idea of the people to be chased off the land into the citie's is not RFK Jr's original idea.. Just this idea alone when told to average white blue collar folk they refuse to believe that our alien ruler's want this. The forest service is hostile to the public and arthoritarian too, most of them love diversity and will NOT say a word on open border's. To be fair, no govt. employee, can speak the truth with out being fired, I know. In 1998 tellling people this they thought you were nutz.. Allot more white folk better start screaming for deporatation's and closing the dam borders.. This forum,and [url]www.VDARE.com[/url] has given any one all the details they could want. The Alien force's in our govt. have seen to our [url]www.deliberatedumbingdown.com[/url] and so the majority police are stupid and will follow orders, like running around and picking up leaflet's that some one does not like, when in most of the country you can't walk after dark, or in the day if you live in the hell holes, with out being on guard.. In many police department's they will not hire men with I.Q.'s above 115. There is a war going on right now, and it against every white male who hands out an article, or speaks against whites being made a minority in their own country.. The public school system is part of the cabal, and most teacher's are idiots, that work in the remaining white areas... Most public school teacher's are like Mao's 1968 Red Guard's.. Really. The public schools even if 95% white are no good, and should not be used by U.S. As the most academic article's on the cost's of invasion, like health, disease, clean water, violence, drug's, emotional well being etc., is poo,pooed as hate! By a 55 year old white male teacher...


Centinel

2003-11-28 18:47 | User Profile

AntiYuppie:

Curiously, the "best of Pat Buchanan" on TV has always been on the MacLaughlin Group - suggesting that even Public Television is less censored than major network television. There he would come out with the sorts of remarks that always endeared him to his more hardcore paleo supporters and enraged the ADL.

There'd I'd agree with you. Given the liberal slant of PBS, they need Pat to be the token angry white man so it's expected of him to bare some fang.


Buster

2003-11-30 16:24 | User Profile

[QUOTE=AntiYuppie]Curiously, the "best of Pat Buchanan" on TV has always been on the MacLaughlin Group - suggesting that even Public Television is less censored than major network television. There he would come out with the sorts of remarks that always endeared him to his more hardcore paleo supporters and enraged the ADL.[/QUOTE]

Very observant point. I liked PJB's description of the Bush protestors in Europe: "...nothing but Reds, Greens, Trots, and Euro-trash." The man has flair.

I wonder how much one is paid, if anything, for these shows. Or is it just prestige?


Craig Smith

2003-11-30 17:23 | User Profile

A few thoughts:

First, of course public television is less censored than mainstream TV; it doesn't have to report to a profit motive, which is what makes mainstream TV show nothing inoffensive, even if the truth is offensive (regarding races, religions and creeds being not only unequal but in some cases, inappropriate).

Second, Pat Buchanan in my view is a man with many correct ideas and a few public concessions that nearly doom the package. Endorsing Christianity, and its pity-based morality, will never help society progress past neo-conservativism.

Finally, the problem as always is that people's egos are pampered while their real world accomplishments are lagging, making a nation of prats who only want to hear inoffensive blather. Therefore you will always get Abrams, who undoubtedly makes a pity play with every news broadcast, over Buchanan.

White people: your society has rotted from within and that is why you have enemies, not the other way around.


Fernando Wood

2003-12-01 04:16 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Pat Buchanan in my view is a man with many correct ideas and a few public concessions that nearly doom the package[/QUOTE]

Pat's problem is that he can't decide if he wants to be a rebel or part of the Establishment.

[QUOTE]Endorsing Christianity, and its pity-based morality, will never help society progress past neo-conservativism.[/QUOTE]

But isn't the problem the liberal Christianity of the last couple of generations? Anyways, neo-conservatism is predominately Jewish, in both leadership and outlook.


Okiereddust

2003-12-01 09:08 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno][I]Still [/I] at it, eh, Okie? Don't worry, one of these days you'll convince the other 99% of us [U]we[/U] were the ones who had it wrong all along.

Hey read what I said. I said 90% of the rank and file liked him. Do you consider yourself a Linder aspirant?

I can tell you the deep dark evil hidden reason MSNBC yanked Pat's plug, and that reason is [I]nobody was watching the damn show. [/I] (It's not like this is unheard of at MSNBC, where 'a viewing audience' continues to be an unsubstantiated rumor.) And anyway the only times I've seen Pat remotely sounding like Pat have been guest appearances on other people's shows, anyway - his BUCHANAN & PRESS gig was a half-hearted dilution of CROSSFIRE into a pseudo-edgy national affairs talkfest growing more tapioca with each passing year.

So let me get this for the record - you guys actually enjoy Pat sounding like Pat? Wait till the Buchanan bashers hear that.

Dear dear, I'm afraid I may precipitate another night of long knives at VNN.

For as much as we dump on FoxNews, somebody should be noting that MSNBC was never [I]less [/I] insulting, it was just insulting in a bland, Ken-and-Barbie-doll staffed, [I]simulacrum of a real news network [/I] manner.

Truth is I must admit, I never watch any of them. I stick to the weather channel. You're probaby right on Buchanan and Press, I never really liked the show too much when I heard it - Press I think doesn't make Pat reflect well.


RcanSaw

2003-12-03 07:52 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Bardamu][I]Surprise, surprise, Abrams replaces Buchanan[/I]

========================================== lemme see. MSNBC cancels Savage... MSNBC cancels Buchannan... Should Scarborough start packing?