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2003-11-22 02:51 | User Profile
"Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack"
More Neocon Scum!!!
[QUOTE]Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack John O. Edwards, NewsMax.com Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.
Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the menââ¬â¢s lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.
In the magazineââ¬â¢s December edition, the former commander of the militaryââ¬â¢s Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.
Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that ââ¬Åthe worst thing that could happenââ¬Â is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.
If that happens, Franks said, ââ¬Å... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty weââ¬â¢ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.ââ¬Â
Franks then offered ââ¬Åin a practical senseââ¬Â what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.
ââ¬ÅIt means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world ââ¬â it may be in the United States of America ââ¬â that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.ââ¬Â
Franks didnââ¬â¢t speculate about how soon such an event might take place.
Already, critics of the U.S. Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have argued that the law aims to curtail civil liberties and sets a dangerous precedent.
But Franksââ¬â¢ scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government.
The usually camera-shy Franks retired from U.S. Central Command, known in Pentagon lingo as CentCom, in August 2003, after serving nearly four decades in the Army.
Franks earned three Purple Hearts for combat wounds and three Bronze Stars for valor. Known as a ââ¬Åsoldierââ¬â¢s general,ââ¬Â Franks made his mark as a top commander during the U.S.ââ¬â¢s successful Operation Desert Storm, which liberated Kuwait in 1991. He was in charge of CentCom when Osama bin Ladenââ¬â¢s al-Qaeda attacked the United States on Sept. 11.
Franks said that within hours of the attacks, he was given orders to prepare to root out the Taliban in Afghanistan and to capture bin Laden.
Franks offered his assessment on a number of topics to Cigar Aficionado, including:
President Bush: ââ¬ÅAs I look at President Bush, I think he will ultimately be judged as a man of extremely high character. A very thoughtful man, not having been appraised properly by those who would say heââ¬â¢s not very smart. I find the contrary. I think heââ¬â¢s very, very bright. And I suspect that heââ¬â¢ll be judged as a man who led this country through a crease in history effectively. Probably weââ¬â¢ll think of him in years to come as an American hero.ââ¬Â
On the motivation for the Iraq war: Contrary to claims that top Pentagon brass opposed the invasion of Iraq, Franks said he wholeheartedly agreed with the presidentââ¬â¢s decision to invade Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein.
ââ¬ÅI, for one, begin with intent. ... There is no question that Saddam Hussein had intent to do harm to the Western alliance and to the United States of America. That intent is confirmed in a great many of his speeches, his commentary, the words that have come out of the Iraqi regime over the last dozen or so years. So we have intent.
ââ¬ÅIf we know for sure ... that a regime has intent to do harm to this country, and if we have something beyond a reasonable doubt that this particular regime may have the wherewithal with which to execute the intent, what are our actions and orders as leaders in this country?ââ¬Â
The Pentagonââ¬â¢s deck of cards: Asked how the Pentagon decided to put its most-wanted Iraqis on a set of playing cards, Franks explained its genesis. He recalled that when his staff identified the most notorious Iraqis the U.S. wanted to capture, ââ¬Åit just turned out that the number happened to be about the same as a deck of cards. And so somebody said, ââ¬ËAha, this will be the ace of spades.ââ¬â¢Ã¢â¬Â
Capturing Saddam: Franks said he was not surprised that Saddam has not been captured or killed. But he says he will eventually be found, perhaps sooner than Osama bin laden.
ââ¬ÅThe capture or killing of Saddam Hussein will be a near term thing. And I wonââ¬â¢t say thatââ¬â¢ll be within 19 or 43 days. ... I believe it is inevitable.ââ¬Â
Franks ended his interview with a less-than-optimistic note. ââ¬ÅItââ¬â¢s not in the history of civilization for peace ever to reign. Never has in the history of man. ... I doubt that weââ¬â¢ll ever have a time when the world will actually be at peace.ââ¬Â
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2003-11-22 05:54 | User Profile
The Constitution has already been unofficially discarded in a practical sense. Nevertheless, at the rate we're going the day will soon arrive when the US government ceases to even make a pretense of following it. A second Civil War is likely to follow, with militant freedom-lovers engaging in guerrilla-style attacks on the illegitimate government. It wouldn't take many of such people to do a lot of damage to the usurpers.
2003-11-22 08:08 | User Profile
Right on the mark, Angler. The regime will fall. Eventually.
2003-11-22 16:34 | User Profile
Found at Liberty Forum:
Can't EVER take anything the "players" say at face value.
Nope. But we can look at where they say it. Franks ain't saying it on CNN or in Newsweek.
The publisher and editor of Cigar Aficionado is Marvin Shanken (who also did the interview with Franks). His wife Hazel sits on the board of The Jewish Foundation for the Righteous. Also on the board is E. Robert Goodkind, partners with Sheldon Rudoff at Goodkind Labaton Rudoff & Sucharow , one of the the larger class action swindling groups around.
Sheldon Rudoff is the president of The Beth Din of America, "recognized as one of the nation's pre-eminent rabbinic courts for nearly four decades".
This is a serious warning to interconnected segments of America. We'd do well to take it seriously. An attack is coming, but who the terrorists really are is open to question.