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Thread ID: 11150 | Posts: 17 | Started: 2003-11-19
2003-11-19 09:12 | User Profile
In a front-page commentary under the title of 'Atheism vs Christianity', VNN editorializes as follows:
The Christian, like all jew-produced liberals, starts by slurring the motives of the opposition. Christianity is ignoble. Science brought us air conditioning, the existence and benefit of which is clear to all mankind. Religion brought us...? Perfervid rancor, as much as anything.
Clearly VNN casts its lot with atheism as the proper belief-system of white nationalism, the latter being the general focus of the VNN website, of which I'm sure most of our membership is familiar with. Considering the viciousness with which the VNN editorialist attacks Christianity while offering up the superiority of atheism, I performed a couple of quick googles to find the following:
From an article by Mike Rose in the June '01 issue of [url=http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0106/jwath.htm]The Nationalist Free Press[/url]:
Facing reality, do you actually think that God promotes atheism? You know the answer.
As a rule of thumb, folks would do well to remember that whenever they hear or come in contact with the words humanist, atheist, or agnostic, that these words are all codenames for Talmudic Jew, as they are all representations of Jewish philosophies. There is no better definition of these three words than the words Talmudic Jew, because they precisely explain each one.
Any group that avows affinity with humanism, atheism, or agnosticism without a doubt will have Jews at the helm. In an attempt to conceal their identity, Jews will frequently identify themselves as agnostics, atheists, or humanists.
Any person who tells you he or she is a secular humanist, an atheist, or an agnostic is a Talmudic Jew. Their appearance is inconsequential. If they speak like Jews, if think like Jews, if they live like Jews, they ARE Jews.
Going a bit further, I found a published list of famous atheists at [url=http://www.celebatheists.com/]Celebrity Atheist[/url]. Take a moment to peruse the list and notice how many 'Jewish' names are on it. Names like Woody Allen, Chomsky, Friedman, Geldof, Goldstein, Fierstein, Katz, Kinsley, Soros and Weinberg. Well disproportionate to the percentage of Jews in the general populace, to say the least.
Now these two examples are small, but as easily as this data was gathered by myself I think it is safe to conclude that atheism is largely a jewish phenomenon both originated and largely sustained by jewish activists. One is left with the question of what and/or who's agenda is being served by the editorialists at VNN and what does it mean for the higher goal of white nationalism? Just a thought, but perhaps in their stated goal of 'naming the jew', the editorialists at VNN need to begin by pointing the finger at themselves?
2003-11-19 15:15 | User Profile
One way to deal with this devisive topic is to observe how the enemy deals with it. Jews apply the big tent to the issue of religious vs non- religious Jews. I'm sure there is some friction, but they are more cohesive than us. If you go to a Jewish singles dating site you will see that atheist Jews have a strong Jewish identity and are not noticably rejected by other Jews. The way they handle the situation benefits them as a whole and I think we should follow their example, meaning that any animosity WN Atheists have towards their Christian bretheren and vice versa should be trumped by racial loyalty, and that this animosity should be suppressed.
My White bretheren are White bretheren regardless of what they believe, and we have a common cause.... our survival. If we are to be successful we have to accept the idea that there is no ideal belief-system for WN's.
I participate in two atheist forums and am quick to point out to my fellow White atheists that not only do Jews promote atheism (to gentiles) because of it's divisive power, but I also point out that major atheist organizations are dominated by Jews for the purpose of preventing any disemination of Talmudic doctrines. Although I may make some derogatory remarks about religious people in those forums, it is for the purpose of tailoring the message to the audience, not because I have any animosity towards you. Put me in a room with a White Christian and an atheist Jew and there is absolutely no question in my mind where my loyalty is.
To give you some inside information on atheists, I'll tell you that the reason many people are atheists is not because, like me, they are just more given to logical than spiritual matters, but that they are lashing out at their parents or the Christian atmosphere they grew up with. The vast majority of them are not really anti-religion, but against the religion they grew up with. They may, for example, be getting back at their religious father who beat their mother or children. Hate to say it to my fellow atheists, but that is the typical profile of an atheist and I have observed many. Obviously, being spanked is not a sound basis of beliefs or lack of them, and all Christians shouldn't be lumped together because one was bad. Many atheists are also the high IQ variety, compelled to reason, or a combination of the two.
2003-11-19 18:33 | User Profile
Good comments, Octopod. But I'm not sure that given the consistent, vociferous and intentional attacks on Christianity, all the while espousing a fundamentally jewish belief system like atheism, you can automatically come to the conclusion that they are not talmudic jews or provacateurs. If white nationalism is your goal, why in the world would you come out of the gate, so to speak, alienating upwards of ninety percent of your intended audience? Something doesn't add up here or pass the smell test, to say the least.
2003-11-19 20:52 | User Profile
Linder embraces Father Coughlin-types. In fact, he said that he enjoyed Father Feeney's website [see URL at OD or at the WSI website under "For Christians"].
Linder's issue is with mainstream Christianity, the "Jesus-was-a-Jew" crowd.
I agree with Alex that MODERN Christianity has greatly hindered the WN movement. [E.g., my hard-core "conservative," gentile neighbor in Arizona, who says things like "if America doesn't protect Israel, God will end the world!"]. Sad. Very sad.
2003-11-19 21:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]Linder's issue is with mainstream Christianity, the "Jesus-was-a-Jew" crowd.[/QUOTE]
Hmm...from the original post:
The Christian, like all jew-produced liberals, starts by slurring the motives of the opposition. Christianity is ignoble.
I just don't read into that any of the fine hair-splitting you are now bringing up. Nevertheless, the issue here is their advocacy of atheism, which is undoubtedly a jewish belief-system through and through. While Christianity may have part of its origin in the ancient Israelites, it made a firm break with Christ, followed by the Pauline epistles. Atheism, on the other hand, is thoroughly jewish to its core, both in its hostility to the traditional Christianity of white, western man and the overwhelming number of jews that identify as such and support their organizations. For a so-called white nationalists to so vociferously advocate a jewish religion makes me scratch my head in wonder as to true motivations.
2003-11-19 21:26 | User Profile
Jesus was an unJew.
2003-11-19 21:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]But I'm not sure that given the consistent, vociferous and intentional attacks on Christianity, all the while espousing a fundamentally jewish belief system like atheism, you can automatically come to the conclusion that they are not talmudic jews or provacateurs. If white nationalism is your goal, why in the world would you come out of the gate, so to speak, alienating upwards of ninety percent of your intended audience? Something doesn't add up here or pass the smell test, to say the least.[/QUOTE] You are a wise man, TD. There's no other conclusion that makes sense. Amazing. No faster way to chase away noobs and vets alike. It certainly isn't David Duke's stated opinion of Christianity and the white race. Got me wondering just whose opinion is being expressed in the majority of the threads on religious forums. IMO, admins and owners need to be especially careful that their "tolerance" isn't mistaken for agreement.
2003-11-19 22:12 | User Profile
Tex wrote:
For a so-called white nationalists to so vociferously advocate a jewish religion makes me scratch my head in wonder as to true motivations.
Do I, or do I not, support Coughlin-types? I am on record as supporting Father Coughlin-types. Indeed, I linked to Father Feeney's website by my own choice...
Most WNs support Coughlin and his work.
2003-11-19 22:13 | User Profile
What I find so interesting is that so many atheist WNs reject Christianity because of its "Jewish" origins, yet so much of anti-semitism actually comes from Christianity. Even many Jewish scholars admit that without traditional Christian teachings on the Jews, Hitler and other far-right nationalists would not have made the impact they that they did with their anti-semitic agendas!
Jesus, the Apostles, and the Church fathers were probally the first to ever expose the secret dark agenda of the Chosen!
Glory is to Christ! Glory to Him Forever!
2003-11-19 23:37 | User Profile
perun wrote:
yet so much of anti-semitism actually comes from Christianity.
Not recently. Maybe in 1830.
Care to name a top U.S. Christian leader who openly names the Jew today? A leader, not a rank-and-file type.
And don't say, "care to name a leftist leader/same?" because it is not the Left's job to warn traditional America about Jews [KEY POINT!].
2003-11-20 00:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=All Old Right]You are a wise man, TD. There's no other conclusion that makes sense. Amazing. No faster way to chase away noobs and vets alike. It certainly isn't David Duke's stated opinion of Christianity and the white race. Got me wondering just whose opinion is being expressed in the majority of the threads on religious forums. IMO, admins and owners need to be especially careful that their "tolerance" isn't mistaken for agreement.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, AOR. You are of course correct in your comment regarding tolerance and agreement. In today's increasingly contentious environment, coupled with so many wild and irresponsible statements being spewed out at other internet venues, I thought I needed to make a clear statement that I in no way agree with or support the jewish belief system of atheism and its hostility to white, western man's traditional Christianity. We simply must present a responsible philosophy that is firmly rooted in and consistent with the traditions of white men and not jews, like atheism so obviously is. Going further, we should be very wary of those who contradict this common sense and honorable position. As a movement, white nationalism deserves nothing less.
2003-11-20 00:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]Do I, or do I not, support Coughlin-types? I am on record as supporting Father Coughlin-types. Indeed, I linked to Father Feeney's website by my own choice...[/QUOTE]
I wasn't addressing you, Franco. Rather the editorialists at VNN.
But if you want to carry water for the jewish faith of atheism here, we can certainly address it.
2003-11-20 00:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]Jesus was an unJew.[/QUOTE]
Correct, mr. No historical figure more thoroughly denounced, refuted and defeated talmudic judaism and all its bastard offsprings like atheism, bolshevism, communism, etc. than Jesus Christ. Onward White, Christian soldiers!
2003-11-20 01:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]Not recently. Maybe in 1830.
Care to name a top U.S. Christian leader who openly names the Jew today? A leader, not a rank-and-file type.
And don't say, "care to name a leftist leader/same?" because it is not the Left's job to warn traditional America about Jews [KEY POINT!].[/QUOTE]
I'll repeat myself Franco, who was pretty much the first group in history to expose their agenda and warn humanity about the Jews? Hmmmmmmmmnn............................................
I think you atheist WNs need to give us Christians more credit, we're the ones who first made Whites so aware about the Chosen. Thats why the subversion of the churches played such an important role in the Jews/Marxists' plans!
2003-11-20 02:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=perun1201]I'll repeat myself Franco, who was pretty much the first group in history to expose their agenda and warn humanity about the Jews? Hmmmmmmmmnn............................................
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Mainly this is true but not to forget the latter-day Roman literary class was wise to the Jews.
2003-11-20 09:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]Jesus was an unJew.[/QUOTE]
:clap:
But a correction if I might:
Christ was the anti-Jew; Jews are the (spirit of) Anti-Christ.
2003-11-20 17:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I thought I needed to make a clear statement that I in no way agree with or support the jewish belief system of atheism.[/QUOTE]
But what of our common Judeo-Atheist heritage? :sad: