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Thread ID: 11113 | Posts: 69 | Started: 2003-11-16
2003-11-16 22:36 | User Profile
Ok,
On suggestion I'm restarting a music thread. TD knows my musical tastes and they largely overlap with mine. Old time metal fan, real country, some of the WN music is actually quite good.
But I'm rediscovering the Smiths/Morissey and some of their lyrics which slipped by me in the past. I'll post Landser and translations later, but here is one of many Smiths songs that I've grown enamored with, again, A Rush and a Push:
OH HELLO I am the ghost of Troubled Joe Hung by his pretty white neck Some eighteen months ago I travelled to a mystical time zone And I missed my bed And I soon came home
They said : "There's too much caffeine In your bloodstream And a lack of real spice In your life"
I said : "Leave me alone Because I'm alright, dad Surprised to still Be on my own..."
Oh, but don't mention love I'd hate the strain of the pain again A rush and a push and the land that We stand on is ours It has been before So it shall be again And people who are uglier than you and I They take what they need, and just leave
Oh, but don't mention love I'd hate the pain of the strain all over again A rush and a push and the land that We stand on is ours It has been before So why can't it be now ? And people who are weaker than you or I They take what they want from life
Oh, but don't mention love No - no, don't mention love ! A rush and a push and the land that We stand on is ours Your youth may be gone But you're still a young man So phone me, phone me, phone me So phone me, phone me, phone me
2003-11-16 22:48 | User Profile
Hey, what a coincidence.. I was just listening to that song in the car yesterday.
I'm going to be posting an mp3 from my collection every week too. My tastes range from European metal and folk to darkwave and some medieval style music. I think we should all share and promote some of our favorite music to each other as an alternative to waiting on the mass media to spoonfeed us something decent.
Disclaimer: When I post an mp3, I don't care if the band's bassist is 1/16 AmerIndian or the drummer's mommy is a commie. This is a music appreciation thread, not a "waste time arguing about petty insignificant crap" thread. If you want to talk about how "metal is jewish nigga music", make another thread please.
2003-11-16 22:49 | User Profile
I'm a big fan of early punk (Johnathan Richman, Elvis Costello, Peaches, the Damned, Iggy Pop).
The only kind of metal I can tolerate is 'stoner' (Black Sabbath, Queens of the Stone Age, anything that's slow and loud); I don't care for stuff like Slayer, Megadeth, all that black metal, thrash, grind, whatever. Haven't heard much European metal....so if anyone can recommend some good, SLOW, metal in the style of classic Black Sab....
But here's a great song from one of my fav. artists of all time, Tom Waits...
16 Shells From a Thirty-Ought-Six
I plugged 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six and a Black Crow snuck through a hole in the sky so I spent all my buttons on an old pack mule and I made me a ladder from a pawn shop marimba and I leaned it up against a dandelion tree
And I filled me a sachel full of old pig corn and I beat me a billy from an old French horn and I kicked that mule to the top of the tree and I blew me a hole 'bout the size of a kickdrum and I cut me a switch from a long branch elbow
Chorus I'm gonna whittle you into kindlin' Black Crow 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six whittle you into kindlin' Black Crow 16 shells from a thirty-ought-six
Well I slept in the holler of a dry creek bed and I tore out the buckets from a red Corvette, tore out the buckets from a red Corvette Lionel and Dave and the Butcher made three you got to meet me by the knuckles of the skinnybone tree with the strings of a Washburn stretched like a clothes line you know me and that mule scrambled right through the hole
Repeat Chorus
Now I hold him prisoner in a Washburn jail that stapped on the back of my old kick mule strapped it on the back of my old kick mule I bang on the strings just to drive him crazy I strum it loud just to rattle his cage strum it loud just to rattle his cage
Repeat Chorus
2003-11-16 23:03 | User Profile
Ok, here's "A Rush and a Push and the Land is Ours", by The Smiths!
[url=http://Ritkhan.homestead.com/files/Smiths_-_Rush_and_a_Push.mp3]LINK[/url]
2003-11-16 23:31 | User Profile
I like all sorts of music, actually: from Led Zep to the Stones, from the Beatles to Black Sabbath, Skynyrd, Tull, even Sinatra, and even Ronstadt. Yep. Everything. But I favor rock-n-roll most of all, esp. 1970s rock.
Top picks, if stuck on a desert island: AC/DC [Bon Scott-era], Black Sabbath, Ronstadt.
:holiday:
2003-11-16 23:41 | User Profile
I like just about everything except for hip-hop. Classic rock, doo wop, some classical, disco, 50's/60's/70's/80's soft rock and rock, vocals; you name it; it's in my collection.
Franco--I like Ronstadt as well. Fave track by Linda is "How Do I Make You", a song that I feel is overlooked among her other hits.
2003-11-16 23:41 | User Profile
Allrighty then. Since some folks were referring to "hair metal" in a shockingly derogatory manner, here's may fav. band of that genre, with some lyrics from their main opus, "Operation: Mindcrime":
Except pull the trigger For that I'd need a pretty good cause Then I heard of Dr. X The man with the cure Just watch the television Yeah, you'll see there's something going on Got no love for politicians Or that crazy scene in D. C. It's just a power mad town But the time is ripe for changes There's a growing feeling That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due I used to trust the media To tell me the truth, tell us the truth But now I've seen the payoffs Everywhere I look Who do you trust when everyone's a crook? Revolution calling Revolution calling Revolution calling you There's a Revolution calling Revolution calling Gotta make a change Gotta push, gotta push it on through I'm tired of all this bullshit They keep selling me on T. V. About the communist plan And all the shady preachers Begging for my cash Swiss bank accounts while giving their Secretaries the slam They're all in Penthouse now Or Playboy magazine, million dollar stories to tell I guess Warhol wasn't wrong Fame fifteen minutes long Everyone's using everybody, making the sale I used to think That only America's way, way was right But now the holy dollar rules everybody's lives Gotta make a million doesn't matter who dies Revolution calling Revolution calling Revolution calling you There's a Revolution calling Revolution calling Gotta make a change Gotta push, gotta push it on through I used to trust the media To tell me the truth, tell us the truth But now I've seen the payoffs Everywhere I look Who do you trust when everyone's a crook? Revolution calling Revolution calling Revolution calling you There's a Revolution calling Revolution calling Gotta make a change Gotta push, gotta push it on through
2003-11-16 23:48 | User Profile
I've always thought of Queensryche as beyond "hair metal". Whatever it is, Operation Mindcrime was an excellent album. I'd post the mp3 to that song if I could upload more than one at a time.
2003-11-16 23:58 | User Profile
I know, but that's how the purists would id them. To me hair metal is Dokken, Ratt, with the degradation onto the later Poision, Slaughter material. Don't worry, I won't post any Dokken :D.
I'll look for some Misfits or punk next.
2003-11-17 00:55 | User Profile
Should I dare mention Stryper, who were a "Christian" metal band. The only song I remember from them was "Honestly".
I also used to listen to Motley Crue back in the mid-80's. I can remember when the video for "Girls Girls Girls" was in heavy rotation on MTV back in '87.
2003-11-17 01:08 | User Profile
This is the first time I have ever heard Queensryche, one of the founding bands of progressive-metal, described as 'hair metal'...let alone by a [I]fan[/I].
2003-11-17 03:45 | User Profile
I'm big into progressive rock/metal myself, so I guess it's odd that I've heard very little Queensryche. I should probably check em out.
I'm a huge fan of Rush -- especially their earlier work -- even though their lead singer and bass player is a Jew. His stage name is Geddy Lee, but his real name is Gary Lee Weinrib. LOL! The name "Geddy" was actually his nickname when he was young; his friends called him that because his mother had a thick Yiddish accent that made it sound like she was saying "Geddy" when she called out the name "Gary." In any case, it doesn't really bother me that Geddy Lee is a Jew; he seems very un-Jewish except for his huge nose. In interviews he comes off as more of a free thinker than a member of the Tribe. And the other two members of Rush aren't Jewish, at least not to my knowledge.
Another early progressive rock band I like is Yes. They did some weird, weird stuff (check out the album Close To The Edge for a good example), but it's really intricate and creative. A lot of their stuff is a bit more mellow than I would like, but when I feel like hearing something that's WAY out there -- something that can make you feel like you're tripping on acid even though you aren't -- then listen to some Yes from the early 70's.
Other older bands who've put out some stuff I like include the Doors, Blue Oyster Cult, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin (although I'm not too keen on Robert Plant) -- that sort of thing.
Although that kind of progressive rock from the 70s is cool, I'm really a metalhead at heart. My favorite musician of all time is probably King Diamond (who fronts a band by the same name). I'm not into all that showmanship and Satanic stuff (although I think he's more into the Lavey/agnostic kind of Satanism), and King Diamond's high falsetto style takes a little time to get used to, but his music is sheer brilliance. His right-hand man over the years, guitarist Andy La Rocque, is an ass-kicker on the guitar! He's probably as good as Yngwie Malmsteen, but far less self-indulgent and pretentious. His speed is just astounding, but he plays with a lot of emotion too. The second guitarist in the band has varied over the years, but it's always a similarly awesome one.
Ozzy's solo stuff was good, and so was Black Sabbath. I saw Sabbath on their reunion tour in 1999, and they were killer! They played all their heavy, bluesy old stuff and sounded great. They played so loud, though, that I couldn't hear much of anything for two or three days afterward. Our seats were only about 20 rows back from one of the PA speakers on the stage, so that probably didn't help too much.
Ronnie James Dio has put out consistently good stuff over his long career. That guy is an AWESOME singer -- just incredible. He's at least 62 years old now, but you sure can't hear it in his voice, and the music he plays is as heavy as ever.
Iron Maiden's reunion with Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith was triumphant. Maiden was my favorite band for much of the time I was growing up. I think their best album is Powerslave, but it's a close call because they've done a lot of reallly, really good stuff. They lost their direction around the time of Fear Of The Dark, and they just weren't the same band without Adrian Smith and Bruce Dickinson in there, but Brave New World was a very strong comeback album, and what I've heard of Dance Of Death was similarly good. Oh, and Iron Maiden's very first two albums -- Iron Maiden and Killers -- had Paul Di'Anno singing instead of Bruce, but he was a good singer in his own way, and those two albums are exceptionally creative. They still sound fresh today, after more than 20 years.
Helloween's Keeper Of The 7 Keys albums are great melodic metal from Germany, and one of Helloween's two guitar masters, Kai Hansen, went on to form Gamma Ray. Hansen is the lead singer as well as one of the two guitar players, and he's actually not bad at all! Gamma Ray have some weird lyrics that seem to revolve around science fiction, but they're not stupid or anything, just different. The music definitely gets an A+ for originality and aggressiveness. The musicianship is superb.
Let's see, who else... In Flames, who are from Sweden, are great for ultra-heavy-but-melodic metal. I only have one of their albums (Clayman), but I'm sure as hell going to get more. They can be thought of as "progressive death metal." Other awesome-but-obscure Swedish bands include Candlemass and Memento Mori.
Then there's Death -- the band! LOL. That's a weak name, but it was chosen way back in the early-to-mid-80s by a 16-year-old whose brother had just died, so there is actually some meaning behind it. Anyway, that kid (Chuck Schuldiner) grew into a hell of a guitar player and song writer, but he unfortunately died of a brain tumor while still in his early 30's. If you want to hear some of the most technical, controlled insanity the world has ever known, check out some of Death's stuff. My favorites are Human, Individual Thought Patterns, and Symbolic. The music is totally brutal, but it also manages to be very melodic at the same time. Just be prepared for harsh "death metal" vocals. Somewhat ironically, the lyrics are very intelligent and philosophical, covering real-life subject matter as opposed to "Dungeons & Dragons" themes (although I like that stuff too if it's interesting enough). Before Chuck died he had recently formed a new band based on Death, but with a "real singer" that allowed Chuck to focus on playing the complicated and demanding guitar riffs without having to worry about growling/screaming into a microphone at the same time. That band was called Control Denied, and I'm really aching to get their one and only release, The Fragile Art Of Existence.
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2003-11-17 06:32 | User Profile
Rags,
Ok, point taken. Probably unfair, but I tend to to view anything softer than Megadeth as a "hair band".
Plus, I reach for my gun whenever I hear the moniker "progressive."
2003-11-17 06:36 | User Profile
Great post Angler.
I too was a big fan of Rush, until they went synth heavy. Have heard some old Helloween tracks, but nothing recent. It does seem like any metal nowadays os coming from Europe or S. America.
The American genre got fused to grunge or a variant and now all that I am aware of is bands like Tool (who I think is a great band).
2003-11-17 07:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Campion Moore Boru]Rags,
Ok, point taken. Probably unfair, but I tend to to view anything softer than Megadeth as a "hair band".
Plus, I reach for my gun whenever I hear the moniker "progressive."[/QUOTE] I doubt it is your gun you are reaching for...
2003-11-17 07:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jjbrouwer]I doubt it is your gun you are reaching for...[/QUOTE]
I cannot protect you on this board, Woggy.
:whstl:
2003-11-17 08:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE]I reach for my gun whenever I hear the moniker "progressive."[/QUOTE]
Hey, I hear you, hoss! Though it's not as stupid-sounding as 'prog'. But this is a built-in problem with writing about music of any kind. How do you categorize/quantify/analyze something that travels through the air into your ear and galvanizes the listener (or fails to) in purely physical terms? Nor is this restricted to rock - after all, it's not like Bach & Beethoven were calling what they did "classical music" while they were composing it. Music is a thing that, upon ingestion, your body is going to send a signal to your brain signifying either 'yes' or 'no'...trying to translate those reactions into words proves more often than not a fool's errand, even if you do it [I]well.[/I]
In other words - [B]I [/B] know a word like 'prog' sounds like some kind of antiquated and horribly uncomfortable shoe...but whaddaya gonna do? The other words in the lexicon sound just as stupid - "rock", "metal", "fusion", "big band", etc. For now, we're stuck with [I]all [/I] of them.
2003-11-17 13:55 | User Profile
Campion, I happy to see another Smiths/Morrissey fan on OD. Tex and I have shared Smiths/Morrissey lyrics in the past, but here's two songs that indicate Morrissey's awareness of racialist issues. Moz claims that he's writes from a 3rd person point of view but I suspect that he damn well believes what he writes. The first song is from "Viva Hate" and then the infamous "National Front Disco" song, which earned Moz heaps of scorn from the British Press, is from his "Your Arsenal" album.
[SIZE=3][B]"Bengali In Platforms" [/B] [/SIZE]
Bengali, Bengali
Bengali, Bengali
No no no
He does not want to depress you
Oh no no no no no
He only wants to impress you
Oh..
[B]Bengali in platforms
He only wants to embrace your culture
And to be your friend forever
Forever
Bengali, Bengali
Bengali, Bengali
Oh, shelve your Western plans
And understand
That life is hard enough when you belong here[/B]
A silver-studded rim that glistens
And an ankle-star that ... blinds me
A lemon sole so very high
Which only reminds me; to tell you
Break the news gently
Break the news to him gently
"Shelve your plans; shelve your plans, shelve them"
Bengali, Bengali
It's the touchy march of time that binds you
Don't blame me
Don't hate me
Just because I'm the one to tell you
That life is hard enough when you belong here
That life is hard enough when you belong here
Oh...
Shelve your Western plans
Oh...
Shelve your Western plans
'Cause life is hard enough when you belong
Life is hard enough when you belong here
Oh...
Shelve your Western plans
Oh...
Shelve your best friends
'Cause life is hard when you belong here
Oh...
Life is hard enough when you belong
[SIZE=3][B]"The National Front Disco"[/B] [/SIZE]
David, the wind blows
The wind blows ...
Bits of your life away
Your friends all say ...
"Where is our boy ? Oh, we've lost our boy"
But they should know
Where you've gone
Because again and again you've explained that
You're going to ...
[B]Oh, you're going to ...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
England for the English !
England for the English ! [/B]
David, the winds blow
The winds blow ...
All of my dreams away
And I still say :
"Where is our boy ? Ah, we've lost our boy"
But I should know
Why you've gone
Because again and again you've explained
You've gone to the ...
National, ah ...
To the National ..
There's a country; you don't live there
But one day you would like to
And if you show them what you're made of
Oh, then you might do ...
But David, we wonder
We wonder if the thunder
Is ever really gonna begin
Begin, begin
Your mom says :
"I've lost my boy"
But she should know
Why you've gone
Because again and again you've explained
You've gone to the :
[B]National
To the National
To the National Front Disco
Because you want the day to come sooner
You want the day to come sooner
You want the day to come sooner
When you've settled the score [/B]
Oh, the National
Oh, the National
Oh, the National
Oh, the National
Oh, the National
2003-11-17 16:53 | User Profile
Ok, well if y'all insist, here's a couple of Smiths' favorites:
Still Ill
I decree today that life is simply taking and not giving England is mine and it owes me a living ask me why and I'll spit in your eye Oh, ask me why and I'll spit in your eye
But we cannot cling to the old dreams anymore no we cannot cling to those dreams
Does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body? I don't know
Under the iron bridge we kissed and although I ended up with sore lips it just wasn't like the old days anymore no it wasn't like those days am I still ill? am I still ill?
Does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body? I don't know
Ask me why and I'll die Oh, ask me why and I'll die and if you must go to work tomorrow well if I were you I wouldn't bother for there are brighter sides to life and I should know because I've seen them but not very often
Under the iron bridge we kissed and although I ended up with sore lips it just wasn't like the old days anymore no it wasn't like those days am I still ill? am I still ill?
Paint a Vulgar Picture
At the record company meeting On their hands a dead star And oh, the plans they weave And oh, the sickening greed
At the record company party On their hands a dead star The sycophantic slags all say, "I knew him first, and I knew him well"
Re-issue, re-package, re-package Re-evaluate the songs Double-pack with a photograph Extra Track (and a tacky badge)
A-list, playlist "Please them , please them !" "Please them !" (sadly, THIS was your life)
But you could have said no If you'd wanted to You could have said no If you'd wanted to
BPI, MTV, BBC "Please them ! Please them !" (sadly this was your life)
But you could have said no If you'd wanted to You could have walked away ...Couldn't you ?
I touched you at the soundcheck You had no real way of knowing In my heart I begged "Take me with you ... I don't care where you're going..."
But to you I was faceless I was fawning, I was boring Just a child from those ugly new houses Who could never begin to know
Who could never really know Oh ...
Best of ! Most of ! Satiate the need Slip them into different sleeves ! Buy both, and feel deceived
Climber - new entry, re-entry World tour ! ("media whore") "Please the Press in Belgium !" (THIS was your life...)
And when it fails to recoup ? Well, maybe : You just haven't earned it yet, baby
I walked a pace behind you at the soundcheck You're just the same as I am What makes most people feel happy Leads us headlong into harm So, in my bedroom in those 'ugly new houses' I danced my legs down to the knees But me and my 'true love' Will never meet again ...
At the record company meeting On their hands - at last ! - a dead star ! But they can never taint you in my eyes No, they can never touch you now
No, they cannot hurt you, my darling They cannot touch you now But me and my 'true love' Will never meet again
2003-11-17 16:54 | User Profile
Helloween was mentioned a few times on this thread, so I'm going to post a song from their Better Than Raw album, since the fans have probably already heard their Keepers era stuff.
Genre: Power Metal No Death Metal vocals
[url=http://Ritkhan.homestead.com/files/Helloween_-_Push.mp3]Helloween - Push[/url]
They're spending millions for your thrill Collective desperate overkill Wrapped up in harmless words that grin Forbidden games you'll never win The more you see the more you know Intended media mind control Shut down and see how beautiful life can be This is the prime of your lifetime You see through eyes of someone else More than the half of your lifetime Is just a tale in a storybook
Push, enforce your independence Push your real intention Face your unconscious addiction Push your private fiction Push It's getting sicker frame by frame You're always staring at the same What is a lie, what is the truth? Incredible disgudting news The world is rough, the end is near Just calculation with your fear Without a shame nor least respect The operators stand erect
This is the prime of your lifetime You see through eyes of someone else More than the half of your lifetime Is just a tale in a storybook
Push, enforce your independence Push your real intention Face your unconscious addiction Push your private fiction Push
2003-11-17 17:11 | User Profile
Not One Of Us - Peter Gabriel 3, 1980
It's only water In a stranger's tear Looks are deceptive But distinctions are clear A foreign body And a foreign mind Never welcome In the land of the blind You may look like we do Talk like we do But you know how it is
You're not one of us Not one of us No you're not one of us Not one of us Not one of us No you're not one of us
There's safety in numbers When you learn to divide How can we be in If there is no outside All shades of opinion Feed an open mind But your values are twisted Let us help you unwind You may look like we do Talk like we do -But you know how it is
You're not one of us Not one of us No you're not one of us
/:1eye:
2003-11-17 17:22 | User Profile
Well from reading other peoples' posts here, I guess my musical probally seem boring to most here. :wacko
So what are my music tastes? Mainly Classical(Baroque and Neo-Classical with some early Romantic period) and traditional European folk music(especially Celtic folk music).
My favorite folk band is the Scottish band Old Blind Dogs [url]http://www.oldblinddogs.demon.co.uk/[/url]
** For over ten years now, the Old Blind Dogs have stood at the leading edge of the roots revival that has both reawakened and revolutionised Scottish folk music.
Combining a deep appreciation of ancient traditions with a highly contemporary, dynamically cosmopolitan musical approach, their uniquely distinctive arrangements of ballads, airs, and dance-tunes put the sounds of their homeland firmly on the world music map. **
You can listen to some of their albums on the website.
I also listen to classic rock, country/bluegrass, military music(mostly German and Russian), and so on. See, I told you I was boring! ;)
2003-11-17 17:42 | User Profile
The Killing Moon
Ian McCollough / Echo and the Bunnymen
Under blue moon I saw you So soon you'll take me up in your arms Too late to beg you or cancel it Though I know it must be the killing time Unwillingly mine
Fate up against your will Through the thick and thin He will wait until you give yourself to him
In starlit nights I saw you So cruelly you kissed me Your lips a magic world Your sky all hung with jewels The killing moon will come too soon
Fate up against your will Through the thick and thin He will wait until you give yourself to him...
2003-11-17 17:45 | User Profile
Driver 8
R.E.M.
The walls are built up, stone by stone, the fields divided one by one. And the train conductor says "Take a break Driver 8, Driver 8 take a break We've been on this shift too long"
And the train conductor says "Take a break Driver 8, Driver 8 take a break We can reach our destination, but we're still a ways away"
I saw a treehouse on the outskirts of the farm. The power lines have floaters so the airplanes won't get snagged. Bells are ringing through the town again, Children look up, all they hear is sky-blue, bells ringing
And the train conductor says "Take a break Driver 8, Driver 8 take a break We can reach our destination, but we're still a ways away"
Way to shield the hated heat. Way to put myself to sleep. Way to shield the hated heat. Way to put myself, my children to sleep.
He piloted this song in a plane like that one. She is selling faith on the Go Tell crusade. Locomotive 8, Southern Crescent, hear the bells ring again. Field to weed is lookin' thin
And the train conductor says "Take a break Driver 8, Driver 8 take a break We've been on this shift too long." And the train conductor says "Take a break Driver 8, Driver 8 take a break We can reach our destination, but we're still a ways away"
2003-11-17 17:57 | User Profile
Here's an old Scottish folk song that I think is very relevant today. The song "Parcel O'Rouges" was written about the Treaty Of Union of 1707 which, in theory, abolished the independent Parliaments of Scotland and England and created the Parliament of the United Kingdom. In practise, it merely ended the autonomy of the Scots and reduced them to the status of a province of England.
This song talks basically talks about how Scotland's national honor was betrayed by a small group of traitors who cared more for English gold than their own nation. The parallels to today are striking!
** Parcel O'Rogues
Fareweill tae aa our Scottish fame Fareweill our ancient glory Fareweill e'en tae our Scottish name Sae famed in martial story Nou Sark rins ower the Solway sands An Tweed rins tae the ocean Tae mark whaur England's province stauns Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation!
What force or guile could not subdue Thro many warlike ages Is wrocht nou by a coward few For hireling traitor's wages The English steel we could disdain Secure in valour's station But English gold has been our bane Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation!
O wad, ere I had seen the day That Treason thus could sell us My auld gray heid had lain in clay Wi Bruce an loyal Wallace But pith an pooer, till my last hour I'll mak this declaration - We're bocht an sold for English gold Sic a parcel o rogues in a nation! **
2003-11-17 18:44 | User Profile
Not a great Rod Stewart fan but this is a classic - particularly the cruel line in bold...
MAGGIE MAY Wake up Maggie I think I got something to say to you It's late September and I really should be back at school I know I keep you amused but I feel I'm being used Oh Maggie I couldn't have tried any more You lured me away from home just to save you from being alone You stole my heart and that's what really hurt
[B]The morning sun when it's in your face really shows your age[/B] But that don't worry me none in my eyes you're everything I laughed at all of your jokes my love you didn't need to coax Oh, Maggie I couldn't have tried any more You lured me away from home, just to save you from being alone You stole my soul and that's a pain I can do without
All I needed was a friend to lend a guiding hand But you turned into a lover and mother what a lover, you wore me out All you did was wreck my bed and in the morning kick me in the head Oh Maggie I couldn't have tried anymore You lured me away from home 'cause you didn't want to be alone You stole my heart I couldn't leave you if I tried
I suppose I could collect my books and get on back to school Or steal my daddy's cue and make a living out of playing pool Or find myself a rock and roll band that needs a helpin' hand Oh Maggie I wish I'd never seen your face You made a first-class fool out of me But I'm as blind as a fool can be You stole my heart but I love you anyway
Maggie I wish I'd never seen your face I'll get on back home one of these days
2003-11-17 18:51 | User Profile
Hey Perun. I went to the website and am listening to Old Blind Dogs. Not bad, thanks!
2003-11-17 19:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]Hey Perun. I went to the website and am listening to Old Blind Dogs. Not bad, thanks![/QUOTE]
:clap: Yeah most people I've introduced their music to likes them very much. Even one friend whose a big hard rock type likes them! BTW, what albums/songs have you listened to and like?
I like the first song on their "World's Room" album "To the Beggin I will go" and I like their version of Robert Burns' "Is there for honest poverty", which ironically it the first song on their album "Fit?"
2003-11-17 21:30 | User Profile
What the heck, if it's lyrics ya want - a few of Lemmy Kilmister's from Motorhead.
[B]1916 [/B] 16 years old when I went to war, To fight for a land fit for heroes, God on my side,and a gun in my hand, Counting my days down to zero, And I marched and I fought and I bled And I died & I never did get any older, But I knew at the time, That a year in the line, Is a long enough life for a soldier, We all volunteered, And we wrote down our names, And we added two years to our ages, Eager for life and ahead of the game, Ready for history's pages, And we fought and we brawled And we whored 'til we stood, Ten thousand shoulder to shoulder, A thirst for the Hun, We were food for the gun,and that's What you are when you're soldiers, I heard my friend cry, And he sank to his knees,coughing blood As he screamed for his mother And I fell by his side, And that's how we died, Clinging like kids to each other, And I lay in the mud And the guts and the blood, And I wept as his body grew colder, And I called for my mother And she never came, Though it wasn't my fault And I wasn't to blame, The day not half over And ten thousand slain, and now There's nobody remembers our names And that's how it is for a soldier.
[B]MARCH OR DIE[/B] The beast behind our eyes is loose, The day has come, the day has come, We march to Armageddon, hungry for the war I see the hated enemy, I see what I was taught to see
And one of us will bend the knee We understand the law
The blood lust jerks our legs to march, Fife and drum, fife and drum Our eyes are fixed and fearless Searching for the war Our statesmen deal in blood and lies 100 million stifled cries, 100 million wasted lives Already gone before
So March or Die, March or Die The stench of death is in the sky We never fail to satisfy We rend with tooth and claw
Sword and shield and jackboot heel We love to kill, we love to kill We love to taste our own blood Squirm in our own gore
Children weep and widows wail, Our education systems fail, To hide our guilt we build more jails, and we shall build still more Our forests die, the stranglehold That we put on the earth for gold Will yet increase ten thousand fold And no one knows what for
March and die, March and die Defecate, despoil and lie Cheat, dissemble, preach & spy Build your house of straw
Laugh and cry, laugh and cry Bloody sunset drowns the sky For earth to heal then we must die No-one deserves it more
I tell you we are doomed my friends Our time is come, our time is come We live within a charnel house Rotten to the core We glorify lust, greed & pain We drown our hope in poison rain We point the finger, shift the blame Ambition makes us whores
March or croak, march or croak All your lives a cosmic joke Fill your days with piss and smoke The wolf waits at your door
Burn and dance, burn and dance Sex, death, torture, false romance Whoop and howl, you have no chance Burn & rise no more
2003-11-17 23:54 | User Profile
Zappa's "Jewish Princess" [from the album Sheik Yerbooti]:
:jester:
[url]http://members.ozemail.com.au/~tamer/sy16.html[/url]
"I WANT A DARLING LITTLE JEWISH PRINCESS WHO DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT COOKING AND IS ARROGANT LOOKING"
Heh, heh...
2003-11-18 00:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]What the heck, if it's lyrics ya want - a few of Lemmy Kilmister's from Motorhead.
[B]1916 [/B] 16 years old when I went to war, To fight for a land fit for heroes, God on my side,and a gun in my hand, Counting my days down to zero, ... [I]And I wept as his body grew colder, And I called for my mother And she never came, Though it wasn't my fault And I wasn't to blame, The day not half over And ten thousand slain, and now There's nobody remembers our names And that's how it is for a soldier. [/I]
[B]MARCH OR DIE[/B] The beast behind our eyes is loose, The day has come, the day has come, We march to Armageddon, hungry for the war I see the hated enemy, I see what I was taught to see
And one of us will bend the knee We understand the law ...[/QUOTE] Somebody has read both Wilfred Owen and Ivor Gurney. Who is Motorhead?
2003-11-18 01:46 | User Profile
An old-school (but still active) English heavy metal band. Accent on the 'old', as the singer/bassist (who wrote the above two songs) is nearly 60 now.
2003-11-18 13:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Who is Motorhead?[/QUOTE]
The Heaviest, Most Ferocious, Grinding, Rock Band That Ever Walked the Face of the Earth.
Find "Ace of Spades" or "No Remorse" CDs and proceed to play it very loud.
"Killed By Death" is one of my fave tracks of all time. Saw Motorhead in '85 at L'Amour in Brooklyn (Fast Eddie not in the band) and I swear, the skinheads went absolutely crazy. I stayed back, but I saw one of my friends, Zeke, later on in the show on top of someone's shoulders down in front "skanking" with a skinhead who was on top of someone else's shoulders.
Those were the f**king days.
2003-11-18 17:26 | User Profile
XMH, I saw them at the [I]very same dive [/I] on the tour before (w Brian Robertson for the ANOTHER PERFECT DAY tour). Best album/tour they ever did...somebody went deaf at the show I saw!
2003-11-18 19:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]The Heaviest, Most Ferocious, Grinding, Rock Band That Ever Walked the Face of the Earth.
Find "Ace of Spades" or "No Remorse" CDs and proceed to play it very loud.
"Killed By Death" is one of my fave tracks of all time. Saw Motorhead in '85 at L'Amour in Brooklyn (Fast Eddie not in the band) and I swear, the skinheads went absolutely crazy. I stayed back, but I saw one of my friends, Zeke, later on in the show on top of someone's shoulders down in front "skanking" with a skinhead who was on top of someone else's shoulders.
Those were the f**king days.[/QUOTE]
Remember that episode of the Young Ones where they are invited onto University Challenge and Lemmy and Motorhead are playing Ace of Spades at the train station...?
2003-11-19 01:37 | User Profile
JJB--
Rod Stewart's "Maggie May" is timeless, both lyrically and musically. The album it came from, "Every Picture Tells A Story", is also a classic. Even some of his soft-rock numbers are good, like "Tonight's The Night".
[B]Tonight's The Night[/B]
Stay away from my window Stay away from my back door too Disconnect the telephone line Relax baby, and draw that blind
Kick off your shoes and sit right down Loosen up that pretty French gown Let me pour you a good long drink Oooh baby, don't you hesitate, 'cause
Tonight's the night It's gonna be alright 'Cause I love you girl Ain't nobody gonna stop us now
Come one angel, my heart's on fire Don't deny your man's desire You'd be a fool to stop this tide Spread your wings and let me come inside, 'cause
Tonight's the night It's gonna be alright 'Cause I love you girl Ain't nobody gonna stop us now
Don't say a word, my virgin child Just let your inhibitions run wild The secret is about to unfold Upstairs before the night gets old
Tonight's the night It's gonna be alright 'Cause I love you girl Ain't nobody gonna stop us now.
2003-11-19 04:58 | User Profile
In my opinion, Ace of Spades is the greatest heavy metal song of all time. I defy anyone who hears it to get that roaring hook out of their head. I used to have their Live at the Hammersmith Odeon album 20 years ago. Tremendous.
I also saw their appearance on The Young Ones. Great stuff. I loved that show generally - especially the episode in which they have to trick the balky washing machine into accepting their crusty rags by saying that it's Felicity Kendal's "knickers".....
I love Rod Stewart's early stuff as well. Maggie May, Every Picture Tells A Story....many wonderful tunes. It's truly disgusting what he allowed his career to descend to. He became seduced by Hollywitz glitz (and assorted blondes), and it ruined him artistically. A waste of great talent.
2003-11-19 05:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=N.B. Forrest]
I love Rod Stewart's early stuff as well. Maggie May, Every Picture Tells A Story....many wonderful tunes. It's truly disgusting what he allowed his career to descend to. He became seduced by Hollywitz glitz (and assorted blondes), and it ruined him artistically. A waste of great talent.[/QUOTE]
N.B.--
Stewart's two consecutive albums, "Every Picture Tells A Story" and "Never A Dull Moment" were truly his finest moments. Both albums were really great. The latter album had one of my all-time favorite Stewart songs on it, that being "You Wear It Well". He also recorded the vocals on Python Lee Jackson's "In A Broken Dream" in 1972, which was also good too. Then after that, he didn't put out any new studio albums and one album really didn't do much. Then he moved to Hollywood and so went his early sound. His "A Night On The Town" is another favorite album of mine. Although it was California rock-sounding, it did have "Tonight's The Night" plus one of my favorite cuts from the album, "The First Cut Is The Deepest". "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" is okay in my book, but aside from "Ain't Love A Bitch", his album "Blondes Have More Fun" isn't that great, and I think by this time his earlier fans had had it with him and his new style. Now he's taken the route Linda Ronstadt took in the mid-80's with recording standards. I think by the late 80's/early 90's Stewart came to his senses and made decent music, even though he couldn't get away from blonde supermodels (and still can't). But then again; he embraces Scottish Celtic culture and has always had pretty blondes so at least he's never been a Kid Rock.
2003-11-19 06:08 | User Profile
This is as good a time as any to put in a plug for undoubtedly the finest band - known or unknown - of the past 10 years, the mighty Spock's Beard [and the important SB side-project, Transatlantic].
Up until recently fronted by a man I consider a bonafide rock-music genius, Neal Morse, who has the uncanny ability to sit down and effortlessly compose track after track of 70s-era classic progressive-rock with a 90s sheen of technicality and hard edge. This is the one band I always use to convince graybeards whose disgust with what The Industry has devolved into has led them to opt out of listening to anything current that there's still great music being made, except now you have to tote a lantern and compass to find it. Of course, I don't think they've ever sold more than 5000 units of any of their catalog here, keeping the band going between their day jobs in a twilight world of no radio, video or label support whatsoever, with nobody in the 'music press' volunteering to do their jobs and alert the public that [I]this is something you'd love, if only someone would tell you it exists[/I].
2003-11-19 06:37 | User Profile
Guys, Stewart has had a great career (not to mention a great life) even if he has become a silly caricature of himself.
I even like the early stuff he did with the Faces after Steve Marriot quit.
He was on Sharon Osbourne's show this afternoon singing some crap from his new album. Still, it wasn't [I]that[/I] bad.
Which ties us in nicely.
While I love Ace of Spades, Black Sabbath (with Ozzy) have put together some of the greatest metal tracks of all time.
Paranoid has to be one of the best hard rock singles and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is a brilliant live track.
Unfortunately, Ozzy decided to rerecord the great Sab's ballad Changes with his dimwit daughter.
[B]Sabbath Bloody Sabbath[/B] You've seen life through distorted eyes You know you had to learn The execution of your mind You really had to turn The race is run the book is read The end begins to show The truth is out, the lies are old But you don't want to know
Nobody will ever let you know When you ask the reasons why They just tell you that you're on your own Fill your head all full of lies
The people who have crippled you You want to see them burn The gates of life have closed on you And now there's just no return You're wishing that the hands of doom Could take your mind away And you don't care if you don't see again The light of day
Nobody will ever let you know When you ask the reasons why They just tell you that you're on your own Fill your head all full of lies
Where can you run to What more can you do No more tomorrow Life is killing you Dreams turn to nightmares Heaven turns to hell Burned out confusion Nothing more to tell
Everything around you What's it coming to God knows as your dog knows Bog blast all of you Sabbath Bloody Sabbath Nothing more to do Living just for dying Dying just for you
2003-11-19 13:03 | User Profile
Icy Blue Heart (John Hiatt)
ALBUM ÷ Slow Turning (1988)
She came onto him like a slow movinââ¬â¢ cold front His beer was warmer than the look in her eyes She sat on a stool, and he said, "What do you want?" She said, "Give me a love that donââ¬â¢t freeze up inside."
He said, "i have melted some hearts in my time dear But to sit next to you, lord, I shiver and shake And if I knew love, well, I donââ¬â¢t think Iââ¬â¢d be here Askinââ¬â¢ myself if Iââ¬â¢ve got what it takes..."
Chorus: "...to melt your icy blue heart Should I start To turn whatââ¬â¢s been frozen for years Into a river of tears?"
These days we all play cool, calm and collected Why, our lips could turn blue just shooting the breeze But under the frost, well, he thought he detected A warm blush of red and a touch of her knee
He said, "Girl, youââ¬â¢re a beauty like Iââ¬â¢ve never witnessed And Iââ¬â¢ve seen the northern lights dance in the air But Iââ¬â¢ve felt the cold that can follow the first kiss And thereââ¬â¢s not enough heat in the fires burning there..."
"...to melt your icy blue heart Should I start To turn whatââ¬â¢s been frozen for years Into a river of tears?"
2003-11-19 15:41 | User Profile
The next artist I'd like to post is Estampie. [url=http://www.estampie.de/index2.html]Offical Webpage[/url]. This German ensemble plays medieval music with beautiful female vocals.
[url=http://www.estampie.de/audio/dissemi.mp3]Disse Mi[/url]
More mp3s can be found in the discography section of their webpage.
2003-11-19 17:25 | User Profile
I probably have the widest range of music on this whole board. I can listen endlessly to folk music by Clannad, Maire Brennan; also good is Altan, Joyce, Egan...and then move on to something heavy: Slayer, Iron Maiden, Dio, Sabbath, Yngwie Malmsteen, death metal. Even new stuff like NIN or Goldfrapp. But above all, Bach is God...
2003-11-21 09:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]I like all sorts of music, actually: from Led Zep to the Stones, from the Beatles to Black Sabbath, Skynyrd, Tull, even Sinatra, and even Ronstadt. Yep. Everything. But I favor rock-n-roll most of all, esp. 1970s rock.
Top picks, if stuck on a desert island: AC/DC [Bon Scott-era], Black Sabbath, Ronstadt.
:holiday:[/QUOTE]
1970's produced some really awful music.
Quentin Tarantino made a really violent film called Reservoir Dogs. While I can't recommend the film (unless you experience a sudden need for a violence fix) I have to say that the soundtrack was a good reminder of the ugliness of 1970's music.
There was a radio station in the film that was always playing 1970's top - 40 hits, like "Kung Fu Fighting" and many others.
While I like the bands you mention, most of them wrote their best stuff in the 1960's. The 1970's generally sucked the big one, IMHO.
Walter
2003-11-21 09:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=AntiYuppie]I've lately developed an interest in Celtic folk music. In my mind, Welsh is an especially beautiful singing language. I recommend the entire set of "Ar Log" (described here [url]http://www.rootsworld.com/celtic/wales.html[/url] ) to anybody with an interest in Celtic culture and the Welsh folk tradition. One of their disks (I forget which one) contains a personal favorite of mine, the lullaby "Suo Gan" ('Sleep My Child').
While we're on the subject of Celtic music, I also have nothing but praise for Andrew Stewart's rendition of the songs of Robert Burns: [url]http://andymstewart.com/burns.htm[/url] .[/QUOTE]
I'm a Celtic music fan, too.
I have most everything the Chieftains did.
The Irish group Clannad sings most songs in Irish Gaelic, also wonderful stuff.
Thanks for the tips - I will check them out.
Walter
2003-11-21 14:13 | User Profile
Walter, the soundtrack on Reservoir Dogs is one of the best things about the movie:
Little Green Bag Stuck in the Middle Fool For Love Hooked on a Feeling
I used to have the soundtrack album. It was great to listen to in the car. There are little bits of funny dialogue from the movie in between tracks.
Here's one:
FREDDY (Tim Roth) What happens if the manager won't give up the diamonds?
MR. WHITE (Harvey Keitel) When you're dealing with a store like this, they're insured up the ass. They're not supposed to give you any resistance whatsoever. If you get a customer or an employee who thinks he's Charles Bronson, take the butt of your gun and smash their nose in. Drops 'em right to the floor. Everyone jumps, he falls down, screaming, blood squirts out of his nose. Freaks everybody out. Nobody says *in' shit after that. You might get some bitch talk shit to ya. But give her a look, like you're gonna smash her in the face next. Watch her shut the up. Now if it's a manager, that's a different story. The managers know better than to *** around. So if one's givin' you static, he probably thinks he's a real cowboy. So what you gotta do is break that son-of- a-bitch in two. If you wanna know something he won't tell you, cut off one of his fingers. The little one. Then tell 'im his thumb's next. After that he'll tell ya if he wears ladies underwear. - [Pause] - I'm hungry, let's get a taco.
2003-11-21 15:17 | User Profile
I remember those.
"Hooked on a Feeling." Man, I couldn't escape that song. It was everywhere. I was in the service when that was out.
Do you remember "Wildfire?" I don't recall if that was on the Reservoir Dogs soundtrack. Another really mediocre song that got waaaay too much play.
That radio station's motto was something like "Where the 70's live!"
In general I can't condone Tarantino's stuff. He wants to turn garbage into art, and as they say in the South "that dog won't hunt." I must admit that I like his sick sense of humour. That radio station is such a hoot! I laugh every time I think of it.
Walter
2003-11-21 18:26 | User Profile
My 15 year old daughter is increasingly into the pop music scene.
Last year it was Alanis Morrissette (sp?) and The Cardigans. I think that's pretty harmless - I even liked some of Alanis' stuff. This year I think she's taken a giant step backward and is now into Avril Levigne (sp?) and System of a Down.
Two questions: First, is Avril Levinge Tribal? She's Canadian and looks pretty Aryan, but my daughter's Jewish friend from school says she's Jewish and that her daddy or uncle is a bigshot record producer. That would actually make a good deal of sense. Second, what's the deal with System of a Down? I think they're weak. How popular are they? My kid says that they're Armenians who moved to LA.
Walter
2003-11-21 18:53 | User Profile
Everything in the modern American pop scene is weak by default.
Maybe get her into some In Extremo instead, which I'll post right now :D
They're pretty listenable I'd think even for people into current pop.
Amazon description:
In Extremo perform an aggressive brand of medieval metal that includes percussion, harp, and homemade bagpipes. Like German countrymen Rammstein, this group eschews English; but unlike Rammstein, In Extremo's frontman sings (or rather growls) in dead languages. Their lone song in English is the unexpectedly catchy cover of Sisters of Mercy's "This Corrosion." As one might expect, Verehrt und Angespien rocks pretty hard; even ethno-punkers with a taste for Boiled in Lead and Garmarna might get off on In Extremo's ancient folk with a modern kick. While most of their songs are fairly uniform, this unorthodox septet assimilates different elements into their music, notably the delicate solo harp in "Miss Gordon of Gight," the violin weaving through "Vinner och Frande," and the raging harmonica on the anthemic "In Extreme."
[url=http://Ritkhan.homestead.com/files/In_Extremo_-_Herr_Mannelig.mp3]In Extremo - Herr Mannelig[/url]
2003-11-21 21:41 | User Profile
70's Rock is the the best ever made, IMO. I mean, The Rolling Stones, Who, Led Zeppelin, Kinks, Queen, Pink Floyd, Aerosmith, Queen, Grand Funk Railroad, Grateful Dead, Elton John, Neil Young, McCartney & Wings, Black Sabbath, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Eric Clapton, early Van Halen, even frickin' Paul Simon's solo albums.....these bands/artists were in their prime and making anthem after anthem after anthem after great song after great song and phenomenal muscianship to go along with that. Now if you don't like 70's Soft Rock or Pop...well.....just look at what passes for pop and rock from 1997-2003! I'll take Bread, Seals n Croft, Loggins and Messina, Fleetwood Mac, Little River Band, Linda Ronstadt, Harry Nilsson, et al over ANYTHING that's out today. Anything! 60's psychedelic was great, 80's metal I loved, but c'mon dudes....1970-1979 were the golden years for Rock.
Keep on Trucking and Have a Nice Day :)
2003-11-21 23:25 | User Profile
Metalhead, I totally agree. The sixties were pretty over-rated. The Beatles were great but a lot of the other music sounded the same.
Your choices - Costello, Clapton (and Cream), The Who, The Clash, Elton John, Sabbath etc all still sound good today. (Note they are all British!)
Plus don't forget Punk rock was a late 70s phenomenon. There was also Kate Bush, David Bowie (his best stuff was in the 70s), Pink Floyd, Genesis, The Jam (they were still around in the early 80s) and Peter Gabriel.
2003-11-21 23:55 | User Profile
The degradation of popular music came with its niggerization/wiggerization.
2003-11-22 07:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jjbrouwer]Metalhead, I totally agree. The sixties were pretty over-rated. The Beatles were great but a lot of the other music sounded the same.
Your choices - Costello, Clapton (and Cream), The Who, The Clash, Elton John, Sabbath etc all still sound good today. (Note they are all British!)
Plus don't forget Punk rock was a late 70s phenomenon. There was also Kate Bush, David Bowie (his best stuff was in the 70s), Pink Floyd, Genesis, The Jam (they were still around in the early 80s) and Peter Gabriel.[/QUOTE]
Ah, but most of that stuff was written in the 1960's, and only became popular later in the decade. I'm defining the 1960's as about 1965-1973.
Look it up. David Byrne wrote a lot of his stuff in that period. Same for Seals & Crofts, who did some good stuff. Things basically went to hell around 1975 and the advent of Disco.
Walter
2003-11-22 18:04 | User Profile
Kate Bush was only 18 when Wuthering Heights topped the UK charts in 1978. Elvis Costello was in his early 20s at the end of the 70s.
However, you are correct about a few of the others. It just shows their music is timeless and ages a lot better than most of the sixties stuff, which sounds so dated.
2003-12-06 05:43 | User Profile
The Dixie Dregs, anyone?
(most compositions by Steve Morse--one of the most innovative guitarists post-Hendrix. Most compositions instrumental only [two vocal tracks on their last album]):
essential Dregs albums:
What If? Freefall Unsung Heroes Industry Standard Night of the Living Dregs (live)
Broke up in 1983 (I saw 'em in San Diego, during their last concert tour). They've been called "jazz-meets-country/speed-metal."
Genius.
2003-12-07 09:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=toddbrendanfahey]The Dixie Dregs, anyone?
(most compositions by Steve Morse--one of the most innovative guitarists post-Hendrix. Most compositions instrumental only [two vocal tracks on their last album]):
essential Dregs albums:
What If? Freefall Unsung Heroes Industry Standard Night of the Living Dregs (live)
Broke up in 1983 (I saw 'em in San Diego, during their last concert tour). They've been called "jazz-meets-country/speed-metal."
Genius.[/QUOTE]
I used to be heavily into the Dixie Dregs. Freefall and Industry Standard are great albums. Steve Morse is a fine, highly-skilled guitar player, but the older I get, the more his stuff sounds the same to me.
For my money, the best of the American elite guitarists is Eric Johnson: his music is not only technically brilliant, but accessable enough to be enjoyed by casual listeners who know nothing about the the finer points of guitar playing
2003-12-07 10:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=N.B. Forrest]
For my money, the best of the American elite guitarists is Eric Johnson: his music is not only technically brilliant, but accessable enough to be enjoyed by casual listeners who know nothing about the the finer points of guitar playing[/QUOTE]
No disagreement other than he releases an album once a decade.
Are you familiar with the bluegrass scene? TOny Rice?
2003-12-08 02:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=N.B. Forrest]I used to be heavily into the Dixie Dregs. Freefall and Industry Standard are great albums. Steve Morse is a fine, highly-skilled guitar player, but the older I get, the more his stuff sounds the same to me.[/QUOTE]
I was never interested in the Dixie Dregs, and while I haven't heard any other of his solo albums, Steve Morse's 2002 release, [I]Split Decision[/I], is a great instrumental rock CD.
2003-12-08 10:00 | User Profile
My favorite all-time guitarist:
Al DiMeola
His stuff with Return to Forever (Chick Corea's jazz-fusion quintet)...especially Romantic Warrior, and the jaw-dropping solo Elegant Gypsy and Splendido Hotel, as well as his two acoustic collaborations with Paco de Lucia and John McLaughlin (another God), Friday Night in San Francisco and Passion, Grace and Fire (the aforementioned, all instrumental, btw; no vocals), are, for my money, some of the greatest music ever recorded.
That genre and those albums, specifically, are my Desert Island necessities.
2003-12-08 12:06 | User Profile
Are you familiar with the bluegrass scene? TOny Rice?
I like good bluegrass: Ralph Stanley, Mac Wiseman (who's from this area) and now, Alison Kraus and her outstanding band Union Station. My dad was a huge bluegrass fan. We used to go bluegrass festivals at nearby Orange Blossom Park all the time when I was a kid. He also used to see the Stanley Brothers in Grundy Va. when he was young - he said Carter was sometimes so drunk he couldn't stand up onstage - but that he'd never miss a beat.
As for Tony Rice, I know who he is, but I'm not really familiar with his work. I don't listen to bluegrass for hot guitar playing (even though there are many masters in the genre). I agree with Jimmy Page in that I prefer the fingerpicking style when it comes to acoustic guitar. And besides, the flat top tends to be drowned out in bluegrass by the banjos, fiddles and mandolins.
In discussing "American elite guitarists", I'd be criminally remiss if I neglected to mention perhaps the greatest who ever drew breath: the late, lamented "Master of the Telecaster" Danny Gatton. Even the most experienced players were in awe of him, calling him "The Humbler". Tragically, he blew his brains out - but the filthy jew record execs killed him, just as sure as if they pulled the trigger themselves.
2003-12-08 14:47 | User Profile
Is there any more versatile guitarist than Steve Howe?
P.S. Does anyone have any good classical guitar/spanish guitar albums to recommend?
2003-12-08 19:24 | User Profile
If you like metal, I recommend this site:
[url]http://www.anus.com/metal/[/url]
Metal with a Traditionalist interpretation.
They also run the neoclassical music hub, which is a place for metal, prog rock, classical and electronic music that emphasizes traditional themes and/or values.
[url]http://www.tinyurl.com/olae[/url]
My personal tastes in music run toward the very traditional, namely European classical, Baroque, and Indian strings, but I am also quite fond of electronic bands with healthy values such as Kraftwerk and Wolfsheim.
2003-12-09 03:40 | User Profile
Glad to read mentions of John McLaughlin and Danny Gatton. For those who aren't familiar with them, I would recommend:
for McLaughlin, his Mahavishnu Orchestra's [I]Birds of Fire[/I]. This was a heavy metal/jazz fusion spectacular (especially the title track). I once read a comment by Ritchie Blackmore that McLaughlin's music was something he would expect to hear on the way down to Hell. Blackmore was no fan, but his comment does fit [I]Birds of Fire[/I].
for Gatton, the album [I]88 Elmira St.[/I] The man was an understated virtuoso. Every track is a gem, but two standouts are his covers of Brian Wilson's "In My Room" and "The Simpsons Theme".
For good classical guitar, I'd go with anything by Andres Segovia.
2003-12-09 03:48 | User Profile
There;s some great bg shows out here in N. Tiajuana.
I got turned on to BG from Del MCCoury. I'll check out Gatton. Try Rice, he's an unbelievable picker.
2003-12-09 13:17 | User Profile
Birds of Fire leaves me cold. I have all (3) Mahavishnu Orchestra CDs, and (to my taste...yer mileage may vary), The Inner Mounting Flame is the most stupefying, disturbing, original, incendiary album I've ever heard. Ever. Period. NO BETTER LP.
Birds of Fire, to me, was more refined, but...so what? But that's just my taste.
Check out Al DiMeola's Elegant Gypsy. Not quite as demented as Mahavishnu, but the guitar work will blow your mind; as will Splendido Hotel, Friday Night in San Francisco and Passion, Grace and Fire.
Just my $.02.
2004-02-14 20:53 | User Profile
Il Ragno,
Followed a link in a newsbit that said Jerry Gaskill's new solo album will be coming out in April to [url]http://www.insideoutmusic.com/[/url]
What a treasure. Real quick, do you know Poverty's No Crime? If so, what is your opinion of them? Any others you recommend?
2004-02-14 21:35 | User Profile
Wait. FIRST of all: Danny Gatton [I]is[/I] the king. I'm only sorry it took me this long to find (and second) the General's remarks on this. Anybody who loves the sound of pure American electric guitar owes it to themselves to seek out [B]88 Elmira Drive [/B] at the very least. (And you forgot to cite "Quiet Village", Fernando - for shame!) If you already own it, you might want want to seek out Albert Lee's [B]Speechless[/B] as a worthy companion piece. (Lee is a Brit who has so mastered the American style he's been one of Nashville's premier session players for 25 years now.)
As for PNC, I'm frankly astonished you've even heard of them, Tex. They're a German melodic-metal band - which means nothing as 'melodic metal' is quickly becoming one of those generic industry buzz-phrases signifying almost anything and often used to mask the odor of loud, cliche-heavy mediocrity. I like them a lot, however - and would describe them as very tight, clean, melody-driven hard rock with a compelling symphonic sheen. The songs are actual songs in that they're not merely frameworks for show-off soloing (of which there's very little): it's more like the various musical components are in there to serve and augment the melodic structure. I tend not to like the speedy/thrashy side of metal and can safely say that PNC don't resemble the Helloween/Blind Guardian schools of bombast so much as they hybridize German precision-engineering with the English/American feel for hooks that stick in your head long after the cd stops spinning. Can't really compare them with Kings X as very few of the Euro bands incorporate the blues in what they do; on the other hand, they're refreshingly free of the neoclassical wankery that [I]far [/I] too many continental bands are wedded to.
I don't have the current cd, CHEMICAL CHAOS, but I do have the preceding three: THE AUTUMN YEARS, SLAVE TO THE MIND and ONE IN A MILLION. MILLION sounded like an off day for them, but AUTUMN is [I]sensational [/I] and SLAVE a very worthy successor. Hope this helps.
[QUOTE]Any others you recommend?[/QUOTE]
Tex, you oughta know better than to ask that question to a blowhard like me. Gimme a few hours to whittle down the list....
2004-02-14 22:59 | User Profile
The current music scene is pretty sad. The only band I really like anymore is Laibach. I like listening to old Jethro Tull, Blue Oyster Cult, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Flatt & Scruggs, Johnny Cash and Johnny Horton. Anyone here remember ol' Johnny Horton, the Singin' Fisherman?
2004-02-15 01:55 | User Profile
Wait. FIRST of all: Danny Gatton is the king. I'm only sorry it took me this long to find (and second) the General's remarks on this. Anybody who loves the sound of pure American electric guitar owes it to themselves to seek out 88 Elmira Drive at the very least. (And you forgot to cite "Quiet Village", Fernando - for shame!) If you already own it, you might want want to seek out Albert Lee's Speechless as a worthy companion piece. (Lee is a Brit who has so mastered the American style he's been one of Nashville's premier session players for 25 years now.)
Albert Lee is simply incredible. I have a tape of him with Danny on an old American Music Shop episode about 10 years ago (Vince Gill was showcasing his heroes for a wildly appreciative audience). Lee's fingers danced over the strings at lightning speed, and with utter clarity of execution - one hell of a feat, especially when you consider that guys like Lee, Gatton & country pickers more generally play without the rock overdrive that tends to cover up little mistakes.
If the slimy jeww execs had any redeeming qualities at all, they'd honor and promote true geniuses like those two, instead of driving them to poverty & suicidal despair. But of course they don't. They only crank up their Hebrew Hype Machine for "artistes" like Shitney & Bare-Titty Koko.