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Thread ID: 11067 | Posts: 30 | Started: 2003-11-14
2003-11-14 00:12 | User Profile
Porn Star Moves In With Aryan Nations
Bianca Trump / Wendy Iwanow Joins Butler In Idaho
11/12/2003 1:54:25 PM LSN Staff
Priest River, Idaho -- A porn star who once billed herself as the "latin princess" and who made interracial films has joined the Aryan Nations and moved to Prarie Ridge, Idaho with Richard Butler.
Bianca Trump, aka Wendy Iwanow, who made headlines in the Palm Beach area of Florida for her disputes with her black neighbors over housing conditions and the conduct of an escort business from her home, has now stated that she wants to "stand true to her people" and "get married, and have children" on her Ringo.com profile, available at:
[url]http://www.ringo.com/profile.jsp?me...8997&t=26S3M488[/url]
Her porn website is available here:
[url]http://www.biancatrump.com/videostore/index.html[/url]
An internet search also revealed Iwanow / Trump has appeared in films such as "Little White Girl, Big Black Man" and has had repeated sex with Jew Ron Jeremy.
Trump's movement into the white nationalist scene adds another crazy character to a movement characterized by dope smoking ex-hippes, Lurch-like ex- boxers, and a colorful cast of people with social adjustment difficulties. The Aryan Nations in particular has attracted women with sexual issues in the past, most notably Catherine Daniels who, at age 16, was involved in an S+M sex scandal in Arkansas, converted to white nationalism, left white nationalism telling the Southern Poverty Law Center that she had been sexually abused and raped, and was moved by them to live with a black lawyer in the Carribean, whom she is now sexually involved with.
2003-11-14 00:40 | User Profile
Aryan Nations is a joke.
2003-11-14 02:07 | User Profile
But not nearly the joke that a news article bylined "LSN Staff" is.
2003-11-14 02:49 | User Profile
Edana,
Yes, you are most Right! That group is one big mess. I read a times half of the "members" of such group have been Feds. Remember the Feds went after Randy Weaver because he would not join such group and set up more people, but many others did do such. :thumbd:
2003-11-14 03:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]Aryan Nations is a joke.[/QUOTE] Baaah!!!!. I just bet you and your confreres are just jealous she didn't join OD instead.
2003-11-14 04:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Baaah!!!!. I just bet you and your confreres are just jealous she didn't join OD instead. [/QUOTE]
Not to be a spoilsport of anyone's good time, but there doesn't seem to be any utility- or humor- in either of the comments here.
2003-11-14 04:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Baaah!!!!. I just bet you and your confreres are just jealous she didn't join OD instead. [/QUOTE]
Damn, you have me all figured out! :angry:
2003-11-14 17:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Baaah!!!!. I just bet you and your confreres are just jealous she didn't join OD instead. [/QUOTE]
Why do you come here to start trouble with everyone here, Okiereddust?
You have picked fights with every poster in the last week or so, and this is the latest disgusting bile to spew from your keyboard.
Are you even White? You don't sound like a plaeo-con, WN, or white activist.
You remind me of a leftist agitator, who at one moment shouts "nazi" at anyone who reveals a racialist view, and at this moment, supporting an ugly mud prostitute.
2003-11-14 18:11 | User Profile
You've got much to add and loads of knowledge, but I again say that the above comment goes a long way towards making those attributes irrelevant.
2003-11-14 20:43 | User Profile
My life has improved since "Bill White" exited the Internet sites I frequent. Must we be reminded?
2003-11-14 23:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=weisbrot]You've got much to add and loads of knowledge, but I again say that the above comments go a long way towards making those attributes irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
Sheesh. And you're the guy that says you have a sublime sense of humour that just goes unnoticed and leaves one unappreciated.
If that old libertine Friedrich Braun was still around, I suppose he'd get a laugh out of this interchange.
2003-11-15 00:45 | User Profile
FYI I posted this over at [url=http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_arts&Number=1031524&page=0&view=&sb=&o=&part=&vc=]Liberty Forum[/url]. If any of you are looking for more libertines like myself to bash you'll be rolling in tall cotton.
2003-11-15 01:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Baaah!!!!. I just bet you and your confreres are just jealous she didn't join OD instead. [/QUOTE]
Well, Porn boy, why don't you take Bianca and your nerdy "manhood" to VNN. It is just the right fit for boys like you who talk crudely to cover up the fact that their manhood ( physical ,emotional, and intellectual) just doesn't measure up with real white men like most of the ones here on OD who have better and more important things to do, like raising families, holding a responsible job, and not living with their mothers and surfing porn because they are afraid of real women and taking responbility for their lives. Since you are a slave to porn, then you are a slave to the Jews, for Jews control the porn industy.
2003-11-15 01:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=skemper]Well, Porn boy, why don't you take Bianca and your nerdy "manhood" to VNN.[/QUOTE] Let's see what the VNNers say. ;)
Since you are a slave to porn, then you are a slave to the Jews, for Jews control the porn industy.
We're sure jumping to guns here about who I am now aren't we? Sure you aren't just projecting your own insecurities on me? I was just noting Bianca Trump is still a very attractive woman, and I'm not one to er, cast judgement on a few unsavory things in her past. Sheesh they used to accuse us paleo ODers of being fanatical theocrats, now one little joke, and we're porn crazed perverts and libertines.
2003-11-15 03:11 | User Profile
skemper,
Great Post! You are most Right. :cheers:
Isn't Okiereddust the one always calling people "nazis". So why does he want a "nazi" Porn star.
2003-11-15 04:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Sheesh. And you're the guy that says you have a sublime sense of humour that just goes unnoticed and leaves one unappreciated.
If that old libertine Friedrich Braun was still around, I suppose he'd get a laugh out of this interchange.[/QUOTE]
You know, like nearly every one of us I feel unappreciated at certain times throughout my day. But I've never said anywhere that I have a sublime sense of humor. I really don't think I do.
It's painfully apparent that you don't either, my friend. This isn't really advice, so take it how you will. But it might serve you well to pull over and give it a rest for awhile.
2003-11-15 06:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]skemper,
Great Post! You are most Right. :cheers:
Isn't Okiereddust the one always calling people "nazis".
I don't think so. I doubt you could find more than one time, even in jest, where I've ever called anyone a nazi, and that is where they called themselves that or some form of that, like "National Socialist"
As to what skemper said, I think his perjorative feelings toward me are misplaced and undeserved, but his overall statements toward the role of pornography in our society, and the way it undermines it and the lives of good people, are fine words, and I can see his concern about people showing levity or glibness toward what for so many is no laughing matter.
2003-11-15 07:09 | User Profile
It would be more interesting to see someone like Russel Crowe or Christopher Walken or Jennifer Aniston come out and announce that they were white nationalists. Thinking about the after-effects and the crap that would fly from the media have me laughing right now.
Porn 'actress'? Who cares? This is more fodder for uncle Ira's cannon. Something else the yahoodis can point their fingers at when talking about 'white supremacists'.
2003-11-15 09:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Baaah!!!!. I just bet you and your confreres are just jealous she didn't join OD instead.[/QUOTE] Who are Edana's "confreres"? You seem to be a bit out of line here.
2003-11-15 15:01 | User Profile
This entire spectacle has me baffled - and I'm not talking about the porn star.
2003-11-15 18:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]This entire spectacle has me baffled - and I'm not talking about the porn star.[/QUOTE] It does me too, but I apologize for what part I had in adding to the confusion.
2003-11-16 00:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I don't think so. I doubt you could find more than one time, even in jest, where I've ever called anyone a nazi, and that is where they called themselves that or some form of that, like "National Socialist"
As to what skemper said, I think his perjorative feelings toward me are misplaced and undeserved, but his overall statements toward the role of pornography in our society, and the way it undermines it and the lives of good people, are fine words, and I can see his concern about people showing levity or glibness toward what for so many is no laughing matter.[/QUOTE]
Okie,
I am not a he, but a she, 41, with a husband and two children and not at all insecure about my sexual life, just ask my husband. Porn destroys lives and families, both the workers and the users. It creates crime. Some people, mostly men, decide to live out their fantasies and destroy the lives of countless women and children. Porn has no place in society. I have seen firsthand how it has destroyed men's lives and those of their families.
Those statments seemed out of character from what I have read of other things you that you have written. I guess that is why I wrote what I did. The "living with his his mother" part of my original statement was referring to Linder, which is true, for he is over 40, never been married, and reportedly has differculties with women personally, and his statements, despite some good writing , have the air and vulgarity of an insecure teenage boy. In all, boys and men, Linder is not a person to emulate or follow. I am about Linder's age and know a man when I meet or read something he has wrote. He does not have the maturity of a 40 or older man. There are better men in both the WN and Paleo community who have a bigger and more mature vision than he has.
2003-11-16 07:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=skemper]Okie,
I am not a he, but a she, 41, with a husband and two children and not at all insecure about my sexual life, just ask my husband. Porn destroys lives and families, both the workers and the users. It creates crime. Some people, mostly men, decide to live out their fantasies and destroy the lives of countless women and children. Porn has no place in society. I have seen firsthand how it has destroyed men's lives and those of their families.
I'd like thank you skemper very much for sharing these very moving and powerful observations from your personal perspective.
[quote=skemper]Well, Porn boy, why don't you take Bianca and your nerdy "manhood" to VNN. It is just the right fit for boys like you who talk crudely to cover up the fact that their manhood ( physical ,emotional, and intellectual) just doesn't measure up with real white men like most of the ones here on OD who have better and more important things to do, like raising families, holding a responsible job, and not living with their mothers and surfing porn because they are afraid of real women and taking responbility for their lives. [quote=skemper]Those statments seemed out of character from what I have read of other things you that you have written. I guess that is why I wrote what I did. The "living with his his mother" part of my original statement was referring to Linder, which is true, for he is over 40, never been married, and reportedly has differculties with women personally, and his statements, despite some good writing , have the air and vulgarity of an insecure teenage boy. In all, boys and men, Linder is not a person to emulate or follow. I am about Linder's age and know a man when I meet or read something he has wrote. He does not have the maturity of a 40 or older man. There are better men in both the WN and Paleo community who have a bigger and more mature vision than he has.[/QUOTE]
If I may digress VNN and Linderism seems somewhat of a metaphor for what has partaken the whole WN movement as a whole. It allows WN sympathizers who have never grown up politically to remain in that state, fantasizing about their dream political world instead of undergoing the much more difficult task of entering into real political enterprises with real people.
Buchanan and his political enterprises were one of these real things, and while he certainly had his weaknesses as a political candidate, to some extent they are the weaknesses any political candidate or any real viable candidate would have. The attitude that people like Linder have that all we to do is forget about the Buchanan's and Francis's of the world and their sometime cautious seeming rhetoric and strategy, whoop and holler loudly enough from our keyboards on the internet, and the white nationalist version of the big rock candy mountain in the sky is going to rise up before seems to be their basic message.
If Linder had an opposite, anti-Linder would probably call Linderism "political porn". As to whether the failings in his political message is related to the other failings in his life, public and private, I'd agree he certainly fits the profile, that along with what Trisk calls "the costume fetish crowd".
This isn't too say Buchanan is without blame. To an extent his failings actually seem to parallel Linders in a certain sense. Like Linder, he's long on slick media tactics and biting rhetorical one-liners and short on practical advice or substantative organizational building. I suppose hardcore Buchananites and Linderites (in a personal sense) might therefore share a common failing.
Trisk might have been right to point this out, but to me his hardline "failings of paleoconservatism" stance seemed too closely to match the substantative conclusions and content of the Linderites and support the conclusions and inanities of Linder, since the specific examples he cited were all foreign and hard to follow.
I'm afraid we can see how, like all porn, political porn is destructive of community cohesiveness and relationships.
2003-11-16 15:17 | User Profile
How did a discussion about a porn star joining Aryan Nations get to Linder???
2003-11-16 19:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]How did a discussion about a porn star joining Aryan Nations get to Linder???[/QUOTE]Today it seems that's where all crooked roads in American nationalism lead.
2003-11-17 03:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]This isn't too say Buchanan is without blame. To an extent his failings actually seem to parallel Linders in a certain sense. Like Linder, he's long on slick media tactics and biting rhetorical one-liners and short on practical advice or substantative organizational building.[/QUOTE]
As someone who voted for Buchanan in '92, '96 and '00 (with no regrets), I can only agree. As a politician, Pat makes a good writer, and I hope he continues to write more books like THE DEATH OF THE WEST.
As for Linder, he's rude and he's crude, but he's also very entertaining. However, if I wanted to introduce a person to nationalist/rightist politics, I wouldn't send him to VNN. Not at first, anyways.
2003-11-17 04:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=skemper] The "living with his his mother" part of my original statement was referring to Linder, which is true, for he is over 40, never been married, and reportedly has differculties with women personally, and his statements, despite some good writing , have the air and vulgarity of an insecure teenage boy. In all, boys and men, Linder is not a person to emulate or follow. I am about Linder's age and know a man when I meet or read something he has wrote. He does not have the maturity of a 40 or older man. There are better men in both the WN and Paleo community who have a bigger and more mature vision than he has.[/QUOTE]Where exactly are you getting your info about Linder? I've known him in the past on another forum and nothing you assert about him jibes with what I remember; as I recall he's more in his 30's (my age or younger) and is in complete rebellion against his parents (hence his anti-religious views) so I doubt that he "lives with his mother" but then, I don't know who he lives with, if anyone. Nor do I know anything about his love life. Do you know these things about him as an absolute fact that you have confirmed for yourself, or are you just making up things about him which "feel right" to you because he has to live up to some stereotype you believe in, just because he writes things you don't like (which suggests you should avoid reading him if it causes you such distress)?
2004-01-12 05:05 | User Profile
"I guess that is why I wrote what I did. The "living with his his mother" part of my original statement was referring to Linder, which is true, for he is over 40, never been married, and reportedly has differculties with women personally, and his statements, despite some good writing , have the air and vulgarity of an insecure teenage boy. In all, boys and men, Linder is not a person to emulate or follow. I am about Linder's age and know a man when I meet or read something he has wrote. He does not have the maturity of a 40 or older man. There are better men in both the WN and Paleo community who have a bigger and more mature vision than he has."
While I just recently said I would try to avoid saying unpleasant things about Mr. Linder in the future, I must say that these remarks ring very true for me. Based on the somewhat puerile nature of much of his writing, I had just assumed the fellow was a not-particularly-mature 20something. The fact that he's 40+ years old, never married, lives with his mother AND engages in journalistic juvenilia does, in my humble opinion, tend to negate his myriad criticisms of Jared Taylor, the National Alliance and whatever other White Nationalist leaders and/or organizations he decided to take after next. Its a clear case of physician, heal thyself!
2004-01-12 05:10 | User Profile
"VNN and Linderism seems somewhat of a metaphor for what has partaken the whole WN movement as a whole. It allows WN sympathizers who have never grown up politically to remain in that state, fantasizing about their dream political world instead of undergoing the much more difficult task of entering into real political enterprises with real people.
Buchanan and his political enterprises were one of these real things, and while he certainly had his weaknesses as a political candidate, to some extent they are the weaknesses any political candidate or any real viable candidate would have. The attitude that people like Linder have that all we to do is forget about the Buchanan's and Francis's of the world and their sometime cautious seeming rhetoric and strategy, whoop and holler loudly enough from our keyboards on the internet, and the white nationalist version of the big rock candy mountain in the sky is going to rise up before seems to be their basic message."
I just wanted to mention that I very strongly agree with the above remarks, for what little that will ever be worth.
2004-01-13 15:50 | User Profile
Aryan Nations is a disgraceful organization full of violent ex-cons. We can only hope that it will soon die out forever.