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Hilaire Belloc [OP]

2003-11-10 02:13 | User Profile

Pratically you can hardly go to the movies or watch TV without being bombarded with the PC image of the female "warrior" these days. Here's a pro-feminist essay that explains that such an image of the female warrior can only thrive in times of moral decay. Interesting if you can get past the PC bull.

** [url]http://www.ausxip.com/articles4/warriors.htm[/url]

Why are TV shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, La Femme Nikita and Xena: Warrior Princess so popular, especially among teens?

By Michael Venture

You can gauge the public's true feeling by what its entertainment is trying to salve.

Television's weekly one-hour shows, known in the trade as "episodics," constitute the bulk of America's exposure to serious drama. These series of mostly depict cops, doctors and lawyers-professions on the gritty interface between working citizens and the ruling powers, professions that all Americans are leery of in real life.

We watch to reassure ourselves that the representatives of Officialdom can be depended upon in a pinch. We need to be reassured; deep at down, we harbor the nasty notion that nobody's really looking out for us. These shows soothe our fears. Somebody cares. The heart of society is good, after all.

I've dubbed these dramas the Priest-and-Nun Shows: characters agonize earnestly and endlessly over moral choices and their own worthiness. ER, Chicago Hope: priests and nuns with stethoscopes. NYPD Blue, Homicide: Life on the Streets: priests and nuns with guns. Law and Order, The Practice: priests and nuns with briefcases. The X-Files: a priest and nun (who, unlike most of the other "clerics," seem to be celibate) fight the Dark Powers, for the truth must be out there somewhere -- a moral conviction if ever there was one. Throw in Baywatch: naked priests and nuns. And Dawson's Creek: the teen novitiate hour

Such fare speaks of a people unsure of what it means to be good or bad. In classic Hollywood films, moral choice wasn't an issue, wasn't the meat of the drama. The major characters had already drawn a hard line between right and wrong; the drama was in getting the job done against enormous odds. Now characters anguish over where the line is, or whether it even exists. They always come out on the side of traditional morality, of course. That's the point of the exercise, though it can take a while to get there, to reaffirm that the heart of society is, after all, good.

But there is another breed of show on TV, with a very large and mostly young following, that takes the opposite stance: the heart of society is demonic. Society is Hell. The vision is fatalistic, the moral choice made for us before we were born. There may or may not be a God, but the Devil is the bully in your neighborhood. And to be human is to constantly fight demons.

The X-Files, at first glance, seems to fall in this category But Fox Mulder and Dana Scully continue, despite all evidence to the contrary, to believe that there's a moral solution to their dilemma. If only the truth "out there" were known, they'd be victorious.

The real society-is-hell shows aren't so optimistic. For one thing, they don't believe there's an end to the struggle. For another, in these shows men aren't much good at demon-fighting. It's up to the women.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer follows a perky high-school girl (Sarah Michelle Gellar) whom fate has designated the Slayer. Every generation has one, and if you're it, you have no choice. Two students, a boy and a girl, are Buffy's allies, but she's the Slayer. She does all the fighting, mostly kickboxing. Convinced that she'll die young--you can only kickbox for so long--Buffy lives for the moment, though she's kept so busy with her duties, she doesn't get to date much.

According to Buffy; the American high school lies right around the corner from the Mouth of Hell, which constantly spews forth demons (mostly teens) intent on disrupting the course of education. With the exception of the school librarian, adults are oblivious to the evil reality. Bizarre events occur with unnerving regularity and Buffy is rarely home nights, but her single Mom remains certain that things will be normal in the morning and that fluffy could finish her homework if only she had the right counseling.

The symbolism is dizzying. Drugs, alcohol and gangs are conspicuously absent from Buffy's high school, but its clear that these are Hell Mouth's vomitus. Demons are the gangs. The surreal transformations in gullible kids victimized by demons-that's your brain on drugs. And the helplessness of grown-ups in the face of this Hell-that's life. Even Buffy's love, Angel, is in the end just another vampire.

Done with sly yet generous humor, Buffy lets us forget the pain of its premise-which is precisely its appeal. Buffy, the pagan priestess, struggles to turn darkness into light, but the battle is unending. There's always another vampire to fight, every night, every generation. Humor makes it bearable but doesn't change it.

Only one show has a bleaker premise: La Femme Nikita. With fluffy', Hell's around the corner. But Nikita lives in Hell. It's called Section One, and its even located underground. "l was falsely accused of a hideous crime," intones Nikita in the opening narration of each episode, "and condemned to death." Section One staged her funeral, recruited her, trained her, "and if I don't play by their rules, I die."

If Buffy is uncorrupted by her struggle, Nikita has fallen victim to it, accepting corruption and far worse. Nikita herself is a demon, one of the living dead, but darkly on the side of light. Section One fights terrorists. And in fighting terrorists, the ends justify the means. Nikita kills and tortures on order. She resisted the practice at first, but now she breaks fingers with the best of them. The show's horrors are something Buffy would not dare contemplate.

But make no mistake: La Femme Nihita's weekly torture session, indulged in by characters with whom viewers are encouraged to identify and empathize, is unconscionable. Torture is disturbing, but the real ugliness here is the sty'lisric flourish with which it is presented. tri Nikita, torture is not a horror but a titillation.

Nikita pushes our preconceptions in other ways as well. While Bully is a squeaky-clean hetero teen, Nikita (Peta Wilson) is a seductive 20-ish blonde, a fashion plate with a runway walk who sexually swings both ways. In one episode Nikita falls in love with a stunning African-American woman, and their close-up tongue-twirling kiss makes the cancelled Ellen's lesbian lip-locks look as tame as a Brady Bunch buss. In most episodes, though, 'Nikita's love is a cold control-freak named Michael. A Section One comrade, he's passive-aggressive, effeminate and masculine

Hell, in other words, knows no boundaries. Butch/femme, straight/gay good/evil, sweet/bitter, control/chaos--everything's blurred. Hell is just like the Nineties. The ambivalences that frighten Americans so much are taken for granted on La Femme Nikita.

You want Officialdom to be on your side? OK, it's on your side--sort of. But it's evil. If it has to threaten you and your children to stop a terrorist, it will. Being on society's side doesn't necessarily mean being on your side. La Fenme Nikita provides no comfort. It assumes we're living in the worst of worlds. As with Buffy there is no future. For every terrorist you kill, you'll have to lace another.

What fluffy and Nikita have most in common is that they are warriors, Western storytelling hasn't seen their ilk since the legendary female fighters of the Celts. So it's fitting that the most brazen of TV's new warrior women is the Celtic battler Xena (played by the grand Lucy Lawless).

Buffy and Nikita inhabit the Devil's kingdom, but Xena frolics in a sorcerer's realm where Playboy-foldout witches come and go in puffs of smoke. Xena is never threatening like Nikita or focused like Buffy. She cavorts safely in the legendary past. It's all comic book-except for the look in Xena's eyes.

A scantily-clad butch who's still femme enough to please the boys, Xena has a sentimental streak and a fundamental sweetness. But her eyes blaze with rages and fears, bright with paradoxes that belie the silly scripts. The strain of her fierceness wears on her. Where we see a fairy realm, she seems to see a bad dream. A very human face stares from that comic hook, and you can't get more Nineties than that surreal mix.

Not so long ago, viewers wouldn't follow a woman into such hellish worlds. Now they wouldn't follow a man. (Hercules, for all its popularity is basically a cartoon for little kids- ifs Xena; Warrior Princess that grabs both teens and adults.) Far from softening the shows, these warrior women make the nightmarish visions all the more stark. Male heroes just aren't flexible enough to handle the conditions that Buffy, Nikita and Xena deal with. To handle, that is, the Nineties.

John Wayne would sooner nuke Nikita's world than tolerate it, even if it means blowing up the planet; Humphrey Bogart, trapped in Buffy's high school, would get drunk and stay drunk; Errol Flynn, faced with Xena, would drop his sword and abandon the field. The old dramatic conception of the male hero depends upon strong boundaries and clear choices. In a world increasingly without boundaries, those guys would just look lost-as their descendants usually do on the male-dominated Priest-and-Nun shows.

America isn't ready to accept sexual ambivalence in its male action heroes. America still wants them to make clear moral choices, even if they have to struggle to get there. None of this half-angel, half-devil stuff. In a man, that's still seen as somewhat sinister; in a woman, ifs seductive.

Young America, the big audience for these shows, seems willing to let warrior women lead in the realm of the betwixt-and-between, morally sexually every which way If the women prove survival is possible in such a world, the men may eventually tag along. But they won't be ready until they like Buffy and Xena, can not only tolerate but learn to relish ambivalence--and, unlike poor fallen Nikita, refuse to let a lack of boundaries demolish their morality. **

I really couldn't help but laugh at this ridiculas suggestion: Errol Flynn, faced with Xena, would drop his sword and abandon the field. :lol: I could just see that happening, if anything Xena wouldn't stand a chance!


Robbie

2003-11-10 13:37 | User Profile

America is a feminized and emasculated country today, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that the men of yesteryear are regarded as relics.

Of course, John Wayne would nuke the Amazon mini-battlefields that dot TV these days. That's why the writer of the article wants to make sure socially conditioned post-America remains as such.

When you think about it :dung: : low morale in the military, fatherless families, miscegenation, Marxism in academia and the media, gay "pride" movements, slut wannabes at seven years old, wiggers, et al.; this is when women are designated as the leader.

:dung:


Mithras

2003-11-10 14:11 | User Profile

La Femme Nikita was a good show. The movie as well.

What you will find in a world of moral decay are boring, stupid shows.

Female warriors aren't bad. The lack of male warriors is bad.


il ragno

2003-11-10 22:47 | User Profile

[QUOTE]You can gauge the public's true feeling by what its entertainment is trying to salve.[/QUOTE]

Once, but no more. Now, you can gauge - by what the media is selling - what the public will inevitably [I]be [/I] feeling. As soon as they figure out that every outlet is telling them the exact same things, and that no alternative is open to them - they'll shrug their shoulders, give up and go along with the program.

Followed by the Jewish choir insisting they're only mirroring "reality" - and that you're free to change the channel.


Franco

2003-11-10 23:36 | User Profile

Ira Goldsteinwitzfeld, top Hollywood producer:

"Just relax as we snip your balls off with she-warrior fantasies, goyim. And relax as TV ZionChristers say NOTHING about who actually runs Hollywood -- 'liberals,' they always say. Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha! Stupid goyim."

Bob BiblePounder, TV ZionChrister: "But-but-but.... Jesus was a Jew! And my best friend is a rabbi."

Ira is right: stupid goyim.

:blink:


Texas Dissident

2003-11-10 23:57 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Franco]And relax as TV ZionChristers say NOTHING about who actually runs Hollywood -- 'liberals,' they always say. Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha! Stupid goyim." Bob BiblePounder, TV ZionChrister: "But-but-but.... Jesus was a Jew! And my best friend is a rabbi." [/QUOTE]

So you take a post on Hollywood and twist it to hammer "Bible pounders" and "ZionChristers", probably the group in America that supports Hollywood the least? The ZionChristers may be guilty of many things like everyone else, but this aint one of them.

Just another example of your overriding agenda of Christian bashing. Nationalistic concerns are a distant second.


Franco

2003-11-11 00:11 | User Profile

Tex wrote:

The ZionChristers may be guilty of many things like everyone else, but this aint one of them.

Ha! In fact, Triple-Ha! If the ZionChristers had told Americans in the 1940s that ONE RACE is destroying their country, maybe we would not be such a messed-up country today.

But noooooo. Instead the ZionChristers......[drumroll]......EMBRACED the Jew. Made the Jew acceptable for Suzie Creamcheese and Sally Supermarket. Made the Jew "just like us." Indeed, watch Ashcroft bow and scrape before Jewish groups. He wouldn't DARE Name The Jew. Not even if you paid him $1,000,000 in cash.

Thanks, Bob BiblePounder! Thanks, Ashcroft! Pass the Judaism.....and the Zionism.....mmmmmm....yummy!

[And yes, it was the job of Christian rightists to warn us of the Jew, not the job of leftists, as some here at OD try to argue, in vain...]


Texas Dissident

2003-11-11 00:20 | User Profile

Franco, come back to reality. The subject at hand was Hollywood. Is it your contention here that evangelical Christian social conservatives support or have ever supported Hollywood? You've gone off into la-la land, my friend.


Franco

2003-11-11 00:43 | User Profile

No, I'm not saying that ZionChristians or Christians support Hollywoodwitz. I'm saying that Christians ENABLE Hollywoodwitz to go on brainwashing America by simply calling Hollywoodwitz "leftist." As if we are not in a war of actual survival against one clever and evil race, but merely sparring with a political entity which has always existed in some form. NOPE.

If Suzie Creamcheese knew how serious and how RACIAL this mess was, maybe she would not just grimace at a sex-filled movie and say, "oh, those darn liberals!" Suzie needs to know that this is a life-or-death racial struggle, not just politics and patty-cake.

Pastor Pete's job is to warn Suzie about Jews. He ain't. So it's my job to mention that.


Edana

2003-11-11 06:55 | User Profile

Suzie Creamcheese? LoL wtf?


Texas Dissident

2003-11-11 09:17 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Franco]No, I'm not saying that ZionChristians or Christians support Hollywoodwitz. I'm saying that Christians ENABLE Hollywoodwitz to go on brainwashing America by simply calling Hollywoodwitz "leftist." [/QUOTE]

At this stage of the game, what does it matter to me the underlying reasons why some other group supports the same goal as myself? Are we so influential and numerically strong that we can afford to split hairs over details in attacking such a large target at such a critical juncture? Why needlessly alienate potential allies from the start, thereby ensuring certain failure? This is not the approach of responsible leadership.

Again, I think you need to free your mind from the counter-productive and destructive doctrines of a polemicist like Linder. Haven't you already witnessed enough of the real-world disastrous results of his vaunted approach? Doesn't it make you question whether or not his goal is one to actually achieve success and build something sustainable and worthwhile, or simply to tear-down and impede upon effective growth and coalition building? So far the track record is not very good, to say the least. You may not admit it here on this board, but I know in your heart of hearts you know it is the truth.


Robbie

2003-11-11 13:06 | User Profile

I think Franco is doing a great service by reminding the readers about the Chosen. Yes, the "bible thumpers" have no clue as to what is going on in the real world when it comes to race and political correctness. They are the ones who spread the lame "we must be one big happy family" rhetoric. Not just among them, but in the larger Churches as well. It was that ideology which drove me away from the faith I grew up in.

Susie Creamcheese is a new one!! :lol:


Hilaire Belloc

2003-11-11 13:38 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Robbie]I think Franco is doing a great service by reminding the readers about the Chosen. Yes, the "bible thumpers" have no clue as to what is going on in the real world when it comes to race and political correctness. They are the ones who spread the lame "we must be one big happy family" rhetoric. Not just among them, but in the larger Churches as well. It was that ideology which drove me away from the faith I grew up in.

Susie Creamcheese is a new one!! :lol:[/QUOTE]

Sorry I have to support Tex here. While Jews are influential in hollywitz, we don't always have to make an issue out of it! Besides as Tex said earlier, thats not the point of this thread. The point is that the popular image of the macho-female warrior can only exist and indeed is thriving on the decline and decay of traditional morals. There's nothing in this that has to do with the Juden directly!


Hilaire Belloc

2003-11-12 06:33 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Mithras] Female warriors aren't bad. The lack of male warriors is bad.[/QUOTE]

Female "warriors" do not exist and simple hollywood fantasy! Female "warriors" often are the result of the lack of male warriors, but you cannot have both in a society!


Uncle John

2003-11-18 22:16 | User Profile

What I love are the copumentaries where the four-foot tall police person runs around yipping like a Pomeranian and her backup is a no-neck white guy built like a tank (who, of course, never says anything.)

Surely there is an element of humor in all this?


W.R.I.T.O.S

2003-11-22 01:00 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]So you take a post on Hollywood and twist it to hammer "Bible pounders" and "ZionChristers", probably the group in America that supports Hollywood the least? The ZionChristers may be guilty of many things like everyone else, but this aint one of them.

Just another example of your overriding agenda of Christian bashing. Nationalistic concerns are a distant second.[/QUOTE]

No, he is pointing out correctly that conservative Christians are too cowardly to say who is responsible for Hollywood.


Texas Dissident

2003-11-22 01:48 | User Profile

[QUOTE=W.R.I.T.O.S]No, he is pointing out correctly that conservative Christians are too cowardly to say who is responsible for Hollywood.[/QUOTE]

No, he is incorrectly assuming that the majority of conservative Christians have a clue who is responsible for Hollywood. Like most Americans, they don't. They need some leadership in the right direction, like most do, and making your first step to reach them one of derision and ridicule is to guarantee failure and a hostile reaction. If the great majority of conservative, Christian Americans could somehow be pointed in the right direction our cause would have no better soldiers in bringing about the kind of culture we would like to restore.


Ruffin

2003-11-22 05:29 | User Profile

"A nation that sends its women to fight its wars is not worth defending." ~ Pat Buchanan


wild_bill

2003-11-26 15:17 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]No, he is incorrectly assuming that the majority of conservative Christians have a clue who is responsible for Hollywood. Like most Americans, they don't. They need some leadership in the right direction, like most do, and making your first step to reach them one of derision and ridicule is to guarantee failure and a hostile reaction. If the great majority of conservative, Christian Americans could somehow be pointed in the right direction our cause would have no better soldiers in bringing about the kind of culture we would like to restore.[/QUOTE]

But we have to get rid of their dispensationalist heresy first. Maybe when Israel is overrun by Arabs, they will realize they've been lied to.

Regards, Wild Bill


Ruffin

2003-11-26 17:20 | User Profile

No, he is incorrectly assuming that the majority of conservative Christians have a clue who is responsible for Hollywood. Like most Americans, they don't. They need some leadership in the right direction, like most do, and making your first step to reach them one of derision and ridicule is to guarantee failure and a hostile reaction. If the great majority of conservative, Christian Americans could somehow be pointed in the right direction our cause would have no better soldiers in bringing about the kind of culture we would like to restore.

I believe that's what he's doing, Tex, ridiculing the leaders (the church) for not informing their flocks.