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Thread ID: 10929 | Posts: 16 | Started: 2003-11-05
2003-11-05 02:24 | User Profile
Linder, Stormfront named by the ADL.....is OD next??
[url]http://www.adl.org/anti_semitism/malaysian_fallout_3.asp[/url]
2003-11-05 05:06 | User Profile
Is OD mentioned as a "hate" site anywhere yet? I checked Simon wiesenthals digital 3000 " hate sites" and OD wasn't mentioned. I am surprised where not on thier radar yet.
2003-11-05 07:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=paleo-nationalist]Is OD mentioned as a "hate" site anywhere yet? I checked Simon wiesenthals digital 3000 " hate sites" and OD wasn't mentioned. I am surprised where not on thier radar yet.[/QUOTE]
No, we're small potatoes compared to a behemoth like Stormfront and hardly worth our common enemies paying any attention to us. In a way, that's both a good and bad thing I suppose.
2003-11-05 18:43 | User Profile
Ahh good old Stormfront. I remember my first visit to the internet in 95, in one of those newfangled "cybercafes" using something like Netscape 1.0 or something. The owner let me and my friends go on for free because the cybercafe was just opening and he wanted to work the bugs out and for that he needed users. I think the first place we went was Stormfront, that and the FBI/Unibomber site to see what all the fuss was about, and somewhere else I forget, I think the (woo-woo!) CIA site. Frankly Stormfront is doing something right to still be up after all these years, it's good to see they're still around.
2003-11-05 19:06 | User Profile
Disinclusion of Original Dissent from the ADL's enemies list is an unacceptable slight.
At Stormfront we will step up our promotion of Original Dissent, and get this estimable site onto the "A" lists of SPLC and the Sons Of The Cut, and defamed by all the right people, like Po'boy Potok, Spitcaivage, Boss Mo, Big Money Abe, whichever homicidal maniac is running the JDL now, and maybe some homo lists, too.
Wait a minute...it occurs to me they don't want to publicize a WN site exclusively featuring complete sentences and proper grammatical structure...hmmm....sorry, ladies and gentlemen, I don't think there's any way around that...
2003-11-05 21:19 | User Profile
I believe you are right jack_boot !
Original Dissent would place Conservative Whites, White Nationalists in a good light that offers the truth about concerns that we share.
I am afraid that does not quite fit ADL guidelines for effective "representation" of regular Whites........
2003-11-05 21:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jack_boot]At Stormfront we will step up our promotion of Original Dissent.[/QUOTE]
I have high regard for Mr. Black, and back when their featured links section was still up, Stormfront faithfully maintained a complimentary link to OD from our earliest days up and running.
2003-11-06 00:01 | User Profile
Congratulations to the big A for this second mention by the ADL:
[url]http://www.adl.org/anti_semitism/malaysian_fallout_3.asp[/url]
The first came quite a while ago, in the wake of 9/11. Except for the kill all the Jews part, the Malaysian comment is damn reasonable.
Linder himself snorts at "cooperating with jew media," but I would not dismiss such mentions. I well recall seeing Don Black on Nightline with Ted Koppel years ago. So intrigued by this "evil racist" business that I simply had to log on and check it out. And, I did. And, lo and behold, it wasn't so "evil." It was just a bunch of people talking about things I'd never thought of and making observations about the world that matched mine. While perhaps both pathetic and inspiring, I found a little home and a little comfort from this shared experience, a little solace and mental strength up against a torrent of media lies about race, Jewish influence and other pressing issues.
Stormfront has its good points and its bad points, but by now, it's practically the "Reader's Digest" of racialism: wide appeal, comfortable, around for a long time. I do share the suspicion that a site that's "too good" won't get promoted by the ADL and buddies, and I think that's one reason they fear VNN. OD probably falls into this category as well.
2003-11-06 15:37 | User Profile
At Stormfront, one sees raw outrage, boiling over. When a working man gets up on a soapbox with something to say, he's not going to concern himself too much with editorial niceties. Yet he's saying the very same things, the very ideas that Sam Francis expresses with a bit more polish.
The Sons Of The Cut, that high-priced barrator Dees, the media in general, and for that matter the government, are able to leverage that rage against us, and characterize us as mad-dog hatemongers, deserving of fear and loathing.
It is our hope that our betters do not aid and abet this ploy; that they do not continue to distance themselves from us, or worse, join in the expression of contempt for us.
How many times have we heard other Whites express near-complete agreement with the White Nationalist position, and then declare: "But I'm no racist!"
Well, yes you are, my friend; just a racist somewhat lacking in the virtues of loyalty and moral courage.
Sipping tea in the parlor or bellowing rage in the parking lot: we're kin.
2003-11-06 18:18 | User Profile
Sipping tea in the parlor or bellowing rage in the parking lot: we're kin.
True enough, if you'll allow me a misquote: "Revolutions are made in beer halls, not lecture halls."
2003-11-06 19:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]True enough, if you'll allow me a misquote: "Revolutions are made in beer halls, not lecture halls."[/QUOTE]
MST, exactly why the jews are doing everything they can to drive beer halls out of business nationwide. DWI crackdowns, less leisure time for working people, smoking bans, stigmatizing through the media of the bar culture, etc, etc.
2003-11-07 16:15 | User Profile
In the information age, revolutions are made in lecture halls, on television, in the newspapers, in magazines, in books and on the Internet. Those media, gentlemen, are the indissolvable battlefields of today. To igore this reality would be like the Anglo-Saxons saying, "You know, the Normans are always attacking us in fields with bows and swords. We need to find a new way of fighting back." Nuh-uh. There is no other way of fighting back.
Same goes for Washington, D.C. It's not going away, either.
Trick is to make inroads in media and politics.
2003-11-10 20:02 | User Profile
In the information age, revolutions are made in lecture halls, on television, in the newspapers, in magazines, in books and on the Internet.
I see your point Hugh, but the problem is that all those things you mention, save the last, are enemy-occupied territory, and the Internet could be just a "terrorist" attack away from being denied us for reasons of "national security."
Infiltration, inroads and cooption are fine ideas. After all, the Jews have used them to great effect lo these past decades, but they did one thing the treacherous (or cowardly, take your pick) White elites did not: they shut and locked the door behind them. Any person, especially a White one, approaching the troughs of power will be thoroughly vetted for the circle K stamp before being allowed even something as minor as a position on the Jerkwater Daily writing staff.
While stealth infiltration of the corridors of power is an option, I fear that if it hasn't already happened, it's too late. Such tactics take time and I don't think we have a lot of it left to salvage anything of Occidental America.
I wasn't dismissive of those institutions you mentioned, but I think the time to rabble-rouse is now. Seems a confluence is in the air lately, and the usual suspects are in great fear of overexposure. The fact that a small speech by a PM of a country most Americans have never heard of, much less could find on a map, becomes a running news item for two weeks speaks to this. Apparently, nothing scares them more than someone shining a flashlight on the floor and naming what they find in plain language. My appropriated comment about beer halls was simply to emphasize the importance of the naming to the people as much as possible. The time to hit, to name, is when the opponent is off-balance, and they seem to be reeling a tad from their latest blunders.
Attack!
MST, exactly why the jews are doing everything they can to drive beer halls out of business nationwide. DWI crackdowns, less leisure time for working people, smoking bans, stigmatizing through the media of the bar culture, etc, etc.
I've often thought of this as a side benefit of high tax rates, two-parents-working households and a relentless promotion of consumerism. The more the hamster is on the exercise wheel, going nowhere, the less time he has to contemplate his state of affairs and certainly less time to bite the hand of his master, and lacks the energy to to anything but sink gratefully into the La-Z-Boy once his shift has ended to catch a few minutes of Monday Night Football or Friends before retiring to start the whole cycle over again on the morrow.
2003-11-13 18:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]I think the time to rabble-rouse is now.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. But I'm not going to hold up a liquor store, I'm going to
1) Write as much as I can for as many venues as possible 2) Show up at mainstream meetings and yell Jew 3) Meet and greet like-mindeds, with an eye toward action 4) Donate to pro-White causes/media 5) Join pro-White organizations and groups, with an eye toward becoming political in the mainstream 6) Write cease-and-desist letters to enemies, letters of complaint to media, and letters to the editor 7) Follow issues closely on the Internet and elsewhere 8) Educate myself about history 9) Be on the lookout for places to spread our message 10) Be on the lookout for legal maneuvers to help our people
2003-11-13 19:39 | User Profile
I think we're on the same page, then. I wasn't advocating a return to Order-type financing, but I think we're well past the point where we'll ever see an unapologetic pro-White politician ever being sworn into office above the local level.
Good laundry list of positive activities as well.
I would add:
11) Become intimately familiar with the means and methods of self-defense.
I fear we're gonna need 'em.
2003-11-13 20:54 | User Profile
Leftist and their Telivetz watching drones, have been encouraged to USE violence against U.S. for years now, that includes white ignorant working whites or obey talk radio like that "Savage" weiner bastard. Look what happen's when a pro white speaker or even a Noble Prize recipient like Dr. William Yet the Supreme court rulz in 2002 that all savages with I.Q.'s of 70! and below will not get the death penalty, hmm. THE LEFT/JEW Media has always okay riots and savage terror on whites, look our street's and prisons.. Itz double jeopardy to send a W.N. to Prison or any white.. Enst Zundel's treatment is example of what the left and Jews feel for a man who dared to defend the slander and hate thrown against his people. They are hoping he dies in Jail from the stress..Anal checks have been done to Zundel every time he returns to his cell...